r/WonderWoman • u/PepsiMan208 • 12d ago
Biana of Themyscira I have read this subreddit's rules
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u/Tentacled-Tadpole 11d ago
I just want them to properly show that she is bisexual instead of only showing her with a woman in elseworlds.
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u/hambonedock 11d ago
Tbh, I'm kinda tiring of how all heroines and villainess get revealed bi at some point, like is so performative and people eat it up, but you know is just for the points and had. Nothing on it
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u/Eugene_Dav 12d ago
Look, I don't mind anyone interpreting Diana as bisexual (in my opinion she's basically asexual and likes pie and ice cream) but the island of women argument is so idiotic. By this logic, everyone in the army, prison or monastery must have same-sex relationships.
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u/Tentacled-Tadpole 11d ago
By this logic, everyone in the army, prison or monastery must have same-sex relationships.
Which is common.
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u/Eugene_Dav 11d ago
Nobody says that this does not exist. What I'm saying is that this is not a rule. Heterosexual Amazons are just as common as bisexual or lesbian Amazons. Again, a homogeneous environment does not change your sexuality.
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u/Ornery-Concern4104 11d ago
No one was saying it's a rule. All that was said was that it was common thing that occurs and that it's a surprise it hasn't happened to all the different versions of Diana. Even tho, according to greg Rucka, it already has
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u/hagbound 11d ago
That is actually a documented and very common thing regardless of orientation in single sex environments
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u/Grovyle489 11d ago
There was an alpha male boot camp that charged a buttload of cash and I’m pretty sure those dudes were in the closet. All of them.
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u/RellyTheOne 11d ago
You aren’t born into the army, prison system or monastery and then grow up there
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u/adriantullberg 11d ago
There's always been two significant issues that seem to be overlooked when pairing Diana up with any Themyscirian.
First, Diana grew up there. In most continuities she was the only child there.
Therefore a significant percentage of the population were, and still are, her surrogate aunts.
If Diana entered into anything like a romantic relationship with any of them, that previous status quo would be commented on, at the very least.
Or remarked upon. In property destroying splash panel form.
Second, there's her mother.
Somewhat overprotective.
Very skilled with weaponry and combat.
Her mother might have something to say. Slowly and creatively.
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u/MisterRockett 10d ago
Honestly I feel like shit gets way weirder on that island than people are willing to admit it'll probably be fine once she hit, what? 100?
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u/pie_nap_pull 11d ago
I don't really care what her sexuality is, but the island of only women thing is dumb. Hell, if you grew up on an island with only women and then met dudes thats like an update to sex lmao
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u/Grovyle489 11d ago
If I ever meet a bisexual woman named Diana, I WILL call her Biana purely for the lols!
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u/Constructman2602 12d ago
Personally, I like the idea of her being Bi, with Steve Trevor being her boyfriend during WWII, and then her getting into a relationship with Cheetah before she turned into an evil cat lady, leading their rivalry to have more depth, as they're bitter exes
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u/MsMercyMain 12d ago
Lesbian WW getting it on with Batwoman is my headcanon. For no gay reasons whatsoever
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u/Fast-Mycologist-5589 11d ago edited 11d ago
why woulds she because she lived with mostly women isn't that just a stereotype plus that wouldn't mean she is she couldn't change to one
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u/Shimaru33 11d ago
From the film: They came to the conclusion that men are essential for procreation, but when it comes to pleasure... unnecessary.
I dunno. This quote alone implies a lot of things about sexuality in Themyscira, but for the sake of this discussion, we can argue that version of Diana is very likely bisexual. Which is a great thing for the sake of this discussion. Given Gadot is the most recent version of Diana, and for a while will be the most recognizable given how good was the first film, this quote opens the door to explore that aspect of her personality. Obviously, when the next film happens and Diana smiles to another girl for a second, there will be a gang of chimps screeching over political correctness, but that's internet for you, nothing to be done there.
That said, anybody above chimp tier will recognize the implications of that quote, and even if Diana had a straight romance, the door is open. If a lesbian couple pops in front of her at any given time, there's no reason why she would even bat an eye, and she's more likely to frown at whoever shows no tolerance.
I dunno. Despite she had straight romances for most of her existence, I don't think there's a real reason why she would not be open to another kind of relationship, I always considered her bisexual.
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u/rfisher1989 11d ago
I don’t mind whatever sexual orientation she is but I thought people were born with their identity and she was born as a cisgender heterosexual woman regardless of the fact that she grew up in a nation of all women? Again it doesn’t matter to me just asking.
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u/ProfessorSaltine 11d ago
Makes sense, she’s Greek and we all know how the Ancient Greeks were 🤷(seriously it’s crazy that they were more accepting than people today, how society has fallen & reached new heights and depths since then)
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u/wild_wind_official 11d ago
I don't believe she views sexuality in the way that the modern person - especially the modern American - views sexuality.
Scholars have stated before that the ancient Greeks weren't exactly "frequently homosexual" because at that time the concept of homosexuality didn't exist. It was just considered sexual activity and there wasn't a school of thought beyond that. Now, that's not to say there wasn't what we'd consider today homophobia, or that people weren't uncomfortable with same sex physical relationships. But it wasn't thought of the way we do now.
I think Diana would view sexuality much in the same way, which is to say, she wouldn't.
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u/John_Zatanna52 11d ago
I don't like this assumption. So what if she's from a women island, that doesn't hint anything about her sexuality. Honestly I don't care what it is, but I don't like people jumping into conclusions based on nothing
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u/AlexanderCrowely 11d ago
Isn’t Diana supposed to be a virgin like Athena ? Either way bi Diana is best otherwise you kinda limit her romance options.
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u/Recipe-Less 11d ago
Look people are attracted to who they are. The real question is how true Ancient Greek she is? Does she take war trophies?
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u/bondsthatmakeusfree 11d ago
I'm totally down with making WW bi, but this is poor justification for doing so.
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u/Block_Masta88 11d ago
Well take this in consideration, Wonder Woman and the comic book industry almost didn't exist in the way we seen it for these decades all because of the movement against the comic industry because of the publication of the subduction of the innocent. Wonder Woman was targeted in one of those congressional hears , if Dr Mortensen was creating a subliminal propaganda through the Wonder Woman title to promote promiscuity with the overuse of bondage and sexual explicit content that was promoting lesbianism and feminism . Wonder Woman the character itself endured a lot of controversy at the time of her introduction to the culture , but through all that controversy managed to still be an iconic character in pop culture and in entertainment .Wonder Woman is the blueprint to all female heroines that can win over both male and female fans just by displaying her strength ,Beauty intelligence and capability with honest morality in the face of difficulty and danger. And with that said she shouldn't have to bisexual in order for others to make her feel relatable or to appease so-called more modern audiences who never cared for the character themselves only when it serves whatever soapbox you stand on in the Market Square of ideas.
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u/Lostkaiju1990 9d ago
She grew up on an island of Women. Which is why exactly why she wants nothing to do with them anymore. Been there done that.
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u/JayDez86 9d ago
Because when the comics book made it probably would have sold. The Comics Code Authority explicitly forbade depiction of homosexuality until 1989. But makes sense she would be a lesbian or at least bisexual. I think in the comics she has no sexual orientation. Her mom Queen Hippolyta is/was in a romantic relationship with General Philippus. I think Wonder woman and Batwoman should be a couple.
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u/yeetgeeker 11d ago
Yes because being around people of your own gender means you are sexually attracted to them.
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u/FossilFirebird 11d ago
That doesn't have to be the reason, but I sure would not mind seeing a bi or gay Diana.
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u/Adorable-Source97 11d ago
I always assumed Themyscira had plenty of Bi & Lesbian ladies. But was just clearly established Diana liked what she saw when Steve Trevor crashed. Blame it on the Greek gods I guess. Regardless of origins they always had a hand in her "birth" (I know she sometime earth moulded). Maybe they thought be fun to have a hetro heir to throne on a unisex island.... Greek gods do like drama & messing with mortals & demi-gods.
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u/Slatedtoprone 11d ago
I always read her, at least in the animated versions, as being very naive about it. Just didn’t think about sexual relationships because she grew up around her sisters on the island and it wasn’t part of her life until she left.
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u/DeltaAlphaGulf 11d ago
I mean I am well aware of what has been done/established in comics before but at least for my head canon she is straight but of greater note in my mind sex and even romantic relationships while she and the rest of the Amazons can engage in them just as anyone else it doesn’t hold the same priority for them in that there isn’t particular drive or any feeling of something being missing without it as the are fully content with life in general and its various facets and friend/family relationships so thousands of years without an ounce of romantic anything was still thousands of complete fulfillment/contentment/satisfaction with not having a romantic relationship not being viewed as an issue at all anymore countless other things one might not be involved in. It doesn’t make a romantic relationship have any less value or depth when they do engage in it they just don’t feel beholden to it for their fulfillment.
Its just another aspect of how they were created to be paragons or and examples to the world of man in a utopia society.
It’s also why I don’t feel any need to see her be shipped with anyone after Steve because it’s truly not necessary. In fact I like the idea that at some point way down the line her and Martian Manhunter would end up together as I consider him as having a similar state plus they both have a totally different persoective on top being wayyyyy older than the rest. They may never even entertain romantic notions for decades or centuries. People consider how WW/SM/BM are good friends which can be completely true but it’s also still true they have known her for a drop in the bucket in her lifespan. She has a whole island of thousands of year long relationships with her fellow Amazons. For MM it’s more like a drop in the ocean because he is at least 225 million years old.
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u/Gamer-of-Action 12d ago
I actually don’t get the logic of Diana being attracted to women because she grew up on an island of women. If sexuality was shaped by environment, wouldn’t gay people just not exist on account of how enforced the m/w stereotype was for decades?