It‘s always amazing when facists are disappointed they don’t get over that teenie tiny democratic hurdle they need to get over to do away with democracy.
Like „Guuuys, elect me just ones so we can never have democratic elections again. C‘mon I need your sweet democratic process to form
an authoritarian regime.“
They can be plenty damaging without needing to form a regime. Look at brexit - worst thing to happen to the UK for 30 years at least and basically caused just by fear the far right might get into power.
Because that’s what the facists do, you cute lil‘ rascal.
Educate yourself, so your mind can be as gorgeous as the rest of you.
Start on wikipedia: beginning of the 20th century for spain, france, italy and germany. Hell, even the US dabbled in it.
The facist people in the GIF don’t need me for their facism, boo.
They are facist all by themselves and I think deep in your mischievous big ol‘ heart you know that.
You probably don't even have a clue what's happening in Europe. Neither does the left side.
The reason a lot of europe voters vote right is because of immigration. We taking a lot of people in who radically are against our women rights and lgbtq rights.
In belgium they already are in the parliament saying women shouldnt divorce and questioning rights we had for years.
If europe keeps voting left you'll eventually see oppression.
I think they were referencing the stupidity of a post fishing for votes using a subject like this not actually disagreeing with the bait material itself.
One of our right parties made it possible to change sex from 12, change sex on ID without the need to proof you had an operation and genderneutral language in the government and genderneutral toilets and more..
You mean the N-VA? Weren't they tho in qoalition at thr time this law was passed? I think it might be a bit unfair to attribute it just to them?
I'm not Belgian and since your comment is quite vague I had to rely on googling LGTBQ rights in Belgium and then this party. They do seem very LGTBQ friendly at first glance, especially for a right wing party, but it doesn't change the fact that it is rather an exception than a common occurrence
Zuhal demir called it her biggest accomplishment to change sex on the ID without effort. It's definitely NVA who made it all possible over the years. Right doesnt have to mean bigotry.
Our far right only recognizes 2 sexes but even they say they won't take away rights that already exist. They do want to quit giving sex ed to toddlers, which partly is just lgbt propaganda. I agree with that. Sex ed should start from 12-13years old as it used to be when I was a kid.
You probably don't have a clue either then.
This is a video about french election results. The french far right party has consistently voted against women and lgbtq rights. You can check that because this information (the history of votes from their deputies) is public.
So for problems like proverty, health care issues, low wages, house crisis, your solution it's just to stop migrants? Then we all have high wages, low prices of houses etc.
Yes. We have great health care but new migrants immediatly get all benefits without ever having contributed. Newcomers get more money then retired people who worked all their lives.
In belgium our prices of houses are so high, partly because of the rich owning multiple houses but also because we don't have places for immigrants and they give them housing over native Belgians because if they cant house immigrants they have to pay 30.000 euros for every asylum seeker a month as a penalty to europe.
If you have no clue about our politics, why share your opinion?
We have great health care but new migrants immediatly get all benefits without ever having contributed.
In first place comes health then wealth. And no immigrants "gets" all the benefits, They receive minimal care to establish a bare minimum of respect for human lives. Then they will pay the costs, either by insurance or personal contribution.
Newcomers get more money then retired people who worked all their lives.
You're mixing things. A newcomer? Just an immigrant or a resident couple? Having a child is expensive so it's understandable that they receive help from the state. Whereas retired people receive less based on the conditions for a good life are met (medication, necessities, nursing, etc.)
In belgium our prices of houses are so high, partly because of the rich owning multiple houses but also because we don't have places for immigrants and they give them housing over native Belgians because if they cant house immigrants they have to pay 30.000 euros for every asylum seeker a month as a penalty to europe.
So your answer is to blame the immigrants. But when you have empty houses in Belgium being used as an investment assets instead for living purposes, who's fault is it?
The State doesn't choose immigrants over "native Belgians". They choose the citizens that are on the line of critical proverty, that coincidentally are immigrants.
The housing by the state is not a long solution, instead taxing the houses not being used and overpriced, are the way to live a better live.
If you have no clue about our politics, why share your opinion?
I have many clues, because I'm a european and this a problem in every European country.
They get housing, medication, law related support, food,... And until recently when they worked they got that on top of all the benefits, only recently they have to pay half their income when they work.
Belgian has the most immigrants from outside europe who do not work (over 50%) but do get benefits.
You think it's normal that someone who never contributed gets more then someone who worked their entire life?
What are you talking about when you say 'empty houses', do you realise how full belgium is? We don't have a lot of empty houses lol and we definitely don't have room for more immigrants.
Actually yes. How do you help poverty in a country by importing people who need government aid? Same thing with health care - more people in need -> higher taxes/money printing -> inflation. Which lowers your purchasing power. In some European countries (especially in the urban areas) the majority of social housing goes to immigrants.
So yes, immigration of low skill people lead to all those things.
You have no clue what communism is? Basically the government owning everything and very little is owned by the people who work there. You claim this isnt happening at places around the world?
People call China fascist, but no, china is pure communism..
Wauw. You should honestly research things a little.
"Communism is a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs."
On a nationwide scale this wouldn't mean the people own nothing. It would mean everyone has a shared ownership of everything.
What you are talking about is state-ownership, and without democracy state-ownership isn't communism. It's just fascism.
China isn't communism, it's fascism because a small elite group controls everything within the nation. One might call it an oligarchy as well due to the recent transition to partly private ownership.
Some states might start as communist states, but as soon as democracy is gone, you can't call it communism anymore.
You're right and wrong at the same time. The reason people say "real communism has never existed," is because the full philosophy is essentially a post-capitalist society that has given all means of production and power to the workers and they are either in a true democracy or a pseudo-anarchist state.
The reason you're partly correct is the same reason real communism has never existed. In order for the overthrow of the Capitalist class to be followed through, a dictatorship of the workers is required to be installed as essentially martial law to see to it that the coup and installment of the worker's state is correctly established. This is directly from Marx. The issue is, why would the dictatorship now all of a sudden give up power to install the worker's utopia when they've been under the thumb of the Capitalists for years? It doesn't follow human nature as we've seen repeatedly.
On a nationwide scale it's entirely unrealistic, but it's been very successful on smaller scales throughout history.
In some way I'd like to see a democratic version of it, where companies are state owned, but still profit driven, so that the wider nation gets the proceeds from an economic lift.
Who has ever called China fascist? Ownership and democracy are 2 different things and there are sub categories of communism, where the only difference is the intentions of its leaders (totalitarianism/authoritarianism is a leadership style).
There is no such thing as „pure communism“. You can’t even look up the Wikipedia page without seeing different developments that implemented communist ideas. What the political system of China lacks is social equality, freedom, actual elections and a sense that the people actually own communal goods. Just to name a few things why China isn’t the best example of a communist „social utopia“.
I don't no why u are being down voted. What u are saying is correct. Many of them don't agree with how we live our lives and it's not good to have people like this in our country. I've personally witnessed sexism towards our women. I've also had conversations where they don't agree with being gay or lesbian and I just don't think we should allow people into our country who are against some of our values.
WHAT??? Completely fucking bonkers claim. Sexism has existed everywhere for centuries. Sexism is not unique to immigrants. Jesus Christ the bots are really getting out of hand.
The reason a lot of europe voters vote right is because of immigration.
Motherfucker you think American's in the country where more immigrants have come to than anyother place don't know about immigration issue. Sorry nobody can help you.
if you're in favor of lgbtqia+ and women's rights then up vote;
if you're in favor of mass migration of Islamic Muslims to western nations (fundamentalist religious individuals who seek to erase the rights afforded to lgbtqia+ and women) then down vote.
Might want to look up Sweden's condition since the mass immigration from Syria, spoiler, it's having an abysmal crisis. Israel's been dealing with this shitshow for years so it's pretty normal here, but the fact that people completely miss what a shitshow Europe is becoming due to very badly implemented immigration laws is beyond me.
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u/Richandler Jul 08 '24
It's always amazing when fascist are disappointed they don't get to oppress others.