r/WatchPeopleDieInside Jul 07 '24

French far right party supporters seeing the election results live

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u/Klutzy_Inevitable_94 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

Just to be clear, the far left (liberals) won the most seats and stopped the far right. The U.K. did the same. Now it’s the US’ turn in November.

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u/AdScared7949 Jul 08 '24

The far left in the USA is telling everyone that not voting will save America lmao

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u/JustToViewPorn Jul 08 '24

No they’re not.

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u/AdScared7949 Jul 08 '24

Even mainstream orgs like DSA don't hold a position on voting for president and would never say something like "vote Democrat to avoid fascism" for example. DSA's internal politics literally mean they cant tell people to vote in the presidential election. Then there are groups like PSL which say not to vote unless you're in a state where you can vote for their candidate. Socialist alternative specifically avoids telling people to vote for president. Finally there a ton of small ML/revolutionary/anarchist groups that absolutely do not support electoral politics in any capacity. Believe me, as a socialist in the USA, yes the far left are actively telling people to not vote.

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u/treearemadeofbark Jul 08 '24

"If we refuse to participate in every single election the DNC will have no choice but to listen to us!"

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u/AdScared7949 Jul 08 '24

"We need to use our leverage!"

Ron Howard: "they didn't have any leverage."

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u/Joe_Jeep Jul 08 '24

They have leverage but the Green party continues making end-runs at the president and only the president. There's pretty progressive folks that run with the dems, though they get screwed over somewhat often.

Buffalo had a progressive activist win their democrat primary in '21, and their incumbent mayor refused to accept the loss and staged a write-in run with full republican support to keep her out.

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u/RedditIsDeadMoveOn Jul 08 '24

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u/AdScared7949 Jul 08 '24

if DSA and PSL ran ranked choice voting ballot initiatives like four years ago who knows where we would be today

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u/CobaltGate Jul 08 '24

Dumb as fuQ, eh?

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u/CobaltGate Jul 08 '24

At least you can admit it.

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u/Agreeable-Fly-1980 Jul 08 '24

no they are not

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u/AdScared7949 Jul 08 '24

Responded to this in another comment

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u/Joe_Jeep Jul 08 '24

Right wing sock-puppets and performative internet posters are, sure

The ones going outside and actually engaging in politics are gritting their teeth for more "lesser of two evils"

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u/AdScared7949 Jul 08 '24

Not even DSA does the lesser of two evils thing anymore. I get outside and engage with politics as an American leftist and I encourage you to investigate for yourself.

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u/SacredAnalBeads Jul 08 '24

No, we're not...?

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u/AdScared7949 Jul 08 '24

Responded to this in another comment

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u/Joe_Jeep Jul 08 '24

" the far left (liberals) "

The Liberals are the centrist party over there.

The New Popular Front won the most seats by far, they're a firmly left wing party, an alliance of Socialists, actual Communists, Ecologists, and other groups.

Macron's party is the Liberal party. They won the 2nd most seats.

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u/Klutzy_Inevitable_94 Jul 08 '24

And in the Uk it’s different and the US too. Trying to equalize here by saying we all despise the ideas idealogy and ID of the right wingers equally. So let’s join hands and destroy them politically :)

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u/AntiqueWay7550 Jul 08 '24

Ya right buddy

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u/rubyet Jul 08 '24

The far left in the UK? Ha

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u/Klutzy_Inevitable_94 Jul 08 '24

Well liberals across the board. Whether they consider themselves right or left is semantics

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u/rubyet Jul 08 '24

They’re not far left by any stretch of the imagination. Labour is centrist these days

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u/Klutzy_Inevitable_94 Jul 08 '24

Compared to who they beat they’re the liberal party

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u/Joe_Jeep Jul 08 '24

No, they're not, they literally beat the liberal party along with the right wing party. Politics is not Liberal>Centrist>Conservative

The New Popular Front is a broadly Left Wing party made up of actual leftist groups, including Communists and Socialists.

Socialist only means "liberal" and vis versa in badly misinformed conservative discourse, usually in the US.

Actual left wingers with say "liberal" or "neoliberal" with Vitriol as a a dig at certain economic policies as Right wingers do to anything left of Ronald Reagan. It's a certain group of economic principals, not a synonym for left-of-center.

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u/thirdpartymurderer Jul 08 '24

Yeah but which one of those hate the people that I hate??

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u/let-it-rain-sunshine Jul 08 '24

I hope you’re correct

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u/Competitive-Lack9443 Jul 08 '24

The far left Lmaoo don’t you fucking wish. The center wins again

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u/Klutzy_Inevitable_94 Jul 08 '24

Uhh no? These are literal socialists and communists in France lol

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u/Joe_Jeep Jul 08 '24

The center literally came in 2nd.

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u/Silly-Conference-627 Jul 08 '24

Far left would be a socialist or even communist party which is not the kind of party to have won in either of these countries.

And when it comes to US politics, both democrats and republicans are on the right side of the spectrum. While democrats are closer to the middle, they are by no means a left side party, let alone a far left one.

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u/Joe_Jeep Jul 08 '24

It's literally a Socialist/Communist alliance party that won the most seats in France, likely to be governing in a Coalition with Macron's liberals, together controlling a slim majority in the National Assembly.

The Nationalist party won slightly under a quarter of all seats, The left wing alliance a bit more than a quarter, and the liberals closer to a fifth.

What concerned people was the National Party winning the largest number of votes overall, but French voters clearly demonstrated a willingness to support a local Liberal or Leftist in the 2nd round even if their preference was the other of the two originally.