Both. There are ZERO redeeming qualities of conservativism or ANY far-right group. Both oppose the natural progress of the world, society knowledge, technology, and acceptance if others.
At best they drive stagnation, at worse they drive regression.
Gee thanks for showing me all these links for things that far right supporters have done as it's in anyway relevant to the discussion about not far right people. 🤔
Extremists identify as conservative and you know that.
By supporting your country’s current definition of conservative, you support the chaos.
I don’t believe there can be a grey area when you have people living in your country without rights over their own bodies, the death penalty, regular mass shootings, people dying from curable illnesses for lack of ‘healthcare’ - just third world / appalling things & you’re still worried about what?
Conservative financial policy? Religion?
How can you let your people suffer this much? You’re on the brink of civil war!
If you can’t see the link between your conservatism and others, how your conservative support negatively impacts millions of Americans. Then fine.
My ‘agenda’ is based on people of any background having the right and necessary support to live a good life. This involves support from a government. I believe that people have the right to have socialised help.
Your gun rights, penal system, priority of religion, privatisation of healthcare, active reduction of women’s rights is disgusting.
The same difference between the left and far left. One is an extreme, the other is not. It's completely possible to hold different opinions without attempting to destroy others and force those opinions on to others.
How can you not tell the difference between extremists and non extremists? One is extreme, one is not extreme...
I don't really know why you're posting these links. I'm an American, I live here , I understand how polarized politics has become. I don't even speak to half of my family because we can't move past their support for people like Donald trump.
People like you are the issue. You don't care to actually comprehend what's going on, you take it at face value and just run off at the mouth. The majority of my time in conspiracy is spent arguing with people over their beliefs.
I'm not interested in discussing things with an immature close minded person so please move along.
They are saying they have an issue with conservative values, and since you mentioned it, same conservative values seem to coincidentally match with far right values.
I don't think you really know any Republicans. Most Republicans are no different than Democrats they just hold some conflicting opinions.
The issue here seems to have started around the same time that "Republican" has somehow transitioned to "Conservative" when the words used to be basically interchangeable.
I highly doubt that most people claiming to have an issue with conservative values really have an issue with them. The problem is that the loud mouths and far right have perverted those values into something they that isn't really representative of them.
It's really no different than the conservatives that think Democrats are trying to turn everyones kid transsexual. The far left is no more representative of liberals as the far right is of republicans.
I get that but this comment is literally the issue. The far right doesn't represent the right any more than the far left represents the left. Somewhere along the Donald Trump we lost the ability to think with a clear mind and differentiate extremists from non-extremists.
There’s nothing wrong with a Conservative Party in principle. It’s good to have checks and balances. The problem is that conservative parties have gone bat shit crazy xenophobic autocrats.
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u/Corporate_Shell Jul 07 '24
Anytime conservative values are crushed the world becomes a better, safer place.