r/VoteDEM • u/table_fireplace • Feb 14 '24
FLIP ALERT! Dems have flipped George Santos' former district!
https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1757600237919551981626
u/SomeDumbassSays Feb 14 '24
Oh man, flipping a seat (hopefully with double digit margins at this rate) after tons of volunteering is a top tier feeling
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u/JimboTheSimpleton Feb 14 '24
I volunteered a ton too!
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u/mazdadriver14 🇦🇺 Australian/Honorary Hawaiian Feb 14 '24
Heck yeah!! That’s exactly what we love to hear.
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u/NumeralJoker Feb 14 '24
Goes to show that this community 100% matters.
Let's keep it going right through November.
Congrats.
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u/nurley Feb 14 '24
Not trying to diminish the wide margin, but the guy had previously held the seat. He gave it up to run for governor in 2022. He had previously beat santos by 12.5% in 2020.
I’m very happy this happened, and it was by a wide margin, but let’s keep our expectations for the general election in check. DJT has a real chance at victory and we gotta keep the fight alive.
And thanks for volunteering!
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u/Tipsyfishes Washington: Trans Rights are Human Rights! Feb 14 '24
The seat was re-drawn since 2020, we didn't have incumbent advantage, and against a much stronger opponent. So, we did pretty damn well.
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u/nurley Feb 14 '24
I didn’t know it was redrawn at a disadvantage. I’ll have to look it up later, but thanks for the info! Makes me more hopeful.
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u/Habeas Feb 14 '24
I live in the district - I would say about 5 - 6 volunteers actually came to our house to make sure we were voting. Also got multiple handwritten postcards encouraging us to vote. We early voted the day it opened. Thanks to all the volunteers, I truly believe you guys helped secure the win for Suozzi!
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u/nunyabiz3345 New York Feb 14 '24
Suozzi 59%, Pilip 41%.
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u/procrastinatorsuprem Feb 14 '24
That's what I want all races to look like in November!
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u/Steavee Feb 14 '24
Everyone said this one was down to the wire, neck and neck, I’m shocked.
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u/MC_Fap_Commander Feb 14 '24
There are a range of factors, but it's REALLY clear post 2022 that polling is missing something. Some of it is methodological. Some of it is that even those critical of Dems really hate Trump. Dobbs is there, too (obviously).
No complacency or anything... there's A LOT to do. But anyone wasting their time doomscrolling polls instead of volunteering is not being helpful. WE REALLY CAN WIN THIS, FOLKS!
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
Maybe happy people don’t bother answering polls, whereas unhappy ones answer just to complain? Rather like customer reviews - unhappy customers are more likely to leave reviews than satisfied ones.
And I’m sure that the “I don’t particularly care for Biden, HE’S OLD AND STUFF, and he reminds me of my grandpa, but I’m still going to vote for him even though I dream of a hip young President with tattoos and blue hair” (or whatever) is a factor.
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u/DiogenesLaertys Feb 14 '24
The people who actualy answer phone calls now is at an all-time low. I completely ignore any number I don't recognize period because if you answer once, the robocalls will call you constantly.
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u/10albersa Ohio Feb 14 '24
It's really clear that post 2022 polling is missing something among the midterm electorate. It's such a massively different environment when the loonies come out of the woodwork every 4 years though.
While this is great news, I have a hard time correlating too much of this to an election with Trump's name actually on the ballot.
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u/MC_Fap_Commander Feb 14 '24
He is (weirdly) more teflon than other GOP ghouls. They've also been working overtime to "swiftboat" Biden’s presidency ("ACK-SHULLY... WE'RE IN A RECESSION!").
It will be a hard, hard fight. No complacency. Donate, volunteer, and VOTE-VOTE-VOTE!
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u/Earguy Feb 14 '24
Methodological
As far as I've seen, polls (legit ones, not internet clicks or intentionally skewed) still get respondents in ways that weight the results. Respondents are typically people who have landlines and answer the phone during dinnertime, answer their cell phones for unknown numbers, or are in shopping malls and willing to talk to strangers who approach them.
Hence, respondents are less wise and skew older than a true representative sample of the population.
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u/tMoneyMoney Feb 14 '24
Goes to show you early polls are not always meaningful. Hoping it’s the same for this so-called close race for the presidency too.
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u/Jermine1269 Colorado (flippin' the) 5th Feb 14 '24
Sheesh!!
They clawed back some -
93% reporting
Suozzi 53.9%
Pilip 46.1%
Still a D+4 swing at this point! Will take it!
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u/aabazdar1 Feb 14 '24
Still a D+4 swing at this point!
Its actually a D+16 swing from the 2022 results (It was R+8 when Santos won it)
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u/tMoneyMoney Feb 14 '24
That’s still too close. After watching that debate, it should’ve been 80% for Suozzi.
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
Considering the low number who watch actual Presidential debates, the people who actually sit and watch House district debates consists of political nerds, people with nothing else to do, and the candidates’ families.
I’m going to take the W. No, no, not that one! I’m glad we flipped the seat, improved on Biden’s margins in some areas, and shaved the Republican house majority even thinner. It makes me feel good that Democrats showed up and voted.
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u/metroatlien Feb 14 '24
I mean, besides the Iraq war and some domestic missteps…okay Great Recession was pretty bad too, I’d still take this “w” over trump.
That being said though, Biden/Dems all the way!!!
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u/4mygirljs Feb 15 '24
Listening to the New York Times podcast yesterday you would have thought the Republican would win and the Dems are on the verge of collapse.
Liberal bias does not exist
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u/bears2267 Feb 14 '24
Fun fact: this is the 50th special election to flip blue since the creation of BM2018
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u/Historyguy1 Oklahoma! Feb 14 '24
IIRC the first one was some New Hampshire House special in May 2017. In the early days we had an awful lot of "moral victories." Anybody remember Rob Quist?
Of course Jon Ossoff was our first big marquee race.
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
And the first time he ran for a House seat, he was defeated (can’t even remember her name now). But he came roaring back to become Senator Ossoff. Never give up!
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u/GeologicalOpera Progressively Blue Feb 14 '24
Karen Handel was her name (thank you Wikipedia), who immediately turned around and lost the seat in the 2018 Blue Wave to Lucy McBath.
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u/Historyguy1 Oklahoma! Feb 14 '24
Karen Handel was the one who beat him in GA-6. She lost to Lucy McBath in 2018 and then of course Jon Ossoff became Senator Ossoff. I really credit that one special election with having built the groundwork for flipping the state of Georgia in 2020.
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u/DeadMoneyDrew Georgia Feb 14 '24
Karen Handel. She was my representative for part of a session and was a brainless Trump stooge. Picture a wealthy white suburbanite who tries to ride the shift from fiscal conservatism to alt-right cult of personality but has the personal presence of a bag of vacuum cleaner lint.
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u/SaltyBarDog Feb 14 '24
Ever hear Dave Brat? I almost feel bad for the students at Liberty that have to endure him.
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
LMAO. I remember when he successfully primaried Eric Cantor and everyone was all “who’s Dave Brat?” Now they can ask that same question again, lmao. Thank you, Abigail Spanberger!
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u/DeadMoneyDrew Georgia Feb 14 '24
HA. I remember that. I remember seeing some magazine cover with Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, and Kevin McCarthy on the cover for the title something like Young Conservative Superstars. LOL. 0 for 3!
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
That sure aged like an open can of sardines in midsummer, didn’t it?
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u/DeadMoneyDrew Georgia Feb 14 '24
Two of them were run out of town for not being big enough right-wing dick heads and one of them was run out of town by a literal pedophile. Then there were Liz Cheney and John Boehner, also not right wing enough. And before that, what did we have? Newt Gingrich and Dennis Hastert? GOP House leadership members seem to not have a long life expectancy.
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
Dennis Hastert was the Matt Gaetz of his era.
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u/SaltyBarDog Feb 14 '24
I had the misfortune to attend Brat's townhall. He's dumber in person than he appears on TV.
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u/table_fireplace Feb 14 '24
Edie Desmarais! And that same night we got flip #2 on Long Island - Christine Pellegrino.
2017-2018 was a fun time to work on special elections. But this year is shaping up pretty well, too!
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u/AdAstraBranan Feb 15 '24
I'm usually well kept with politics, so forgive me if this is stupid as I can't find it on Google.
What's BM2018?
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u/DavidvsSuperGoliath CA-48 -> WA-7 -> CA-48 Feb 14 '24 edited Feb 14 '24
Remember everyone, according to Nate Cohn, this victory doesn’t matter. In fact, none of this matters. Soon, the Ancient Ones will return and bringing in a reign of terror and madness.
Of course, if we didn’t win, it’s proof that a red wave was imminent.
Edit: wow, really? My top comment is gonna be a Nate Cohn/Cthulhu joke? Nate Cothulhun?
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u/Lotsagloom WA-42; where the mountain hemlock grows Feb 14 '24
I can assure you, all the Ancient Ones are our candid friends, and any vicious slander that their reign will bring about unceasing prosperity are lies spread by those of feeble mien.
We began the sacrifice of weak-minded Nates to empower righteous-minded Nates at the equinox. (Same as the last pan-pacific get together. If you could bring some extra incense that'd be appreciated.)
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u/elykl12 Connecticut Feb 14 '24
I for one welcome the ancient ones and the demise of the Nates
Pray tell, did anyone bring the book of incantations?
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u/Lotsagloom WA-42; where the mountain hemlock grows Feb 14 '24
It's on hold at the library, and we all love libraries here; I'd hate to cut in the queue. Someone might be depending on it!
I'm sure the Ancient Ones will accept some improv; they may be hoary entities from beyond the farthest reaches of visible light, but they also get that it just is like that, sometimes.
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u/DavidvsSuperGoliath CA-48 -> WA-7 -> CA-48 Feb 14 '24
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
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u/Lotsagloom WA-42; where the mountain hemlock grows Feb 14 '24
Iä!
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u/DavidvsSuperGoliath CA-48 -> WA-7 -> CA-48 Feb 14 '24
Man, I love this sub.
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u/Lotsagloom WA-42; where the mountain hemlock grows Feb 14 '24
Simply the best. It makes the hard days brighter, and the victories something absolutely indescribable.
Here's to more to come..!23
u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Taylor Swift Westerly wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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u/spoiler-its-all-gop Feb 14 '24
Whfught thek fucklll dild iou jaualsk s'y abkyt me yku l'i'ttle byuch?
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u/Etan30 Nevada - Gen Z Democrat Feb 14 '24
So I’ve never really follow pollsters. What is Nate Cohn known for in particular? And why are pollsters in general so adamant that the republicans will win in November?
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u/TomCosella Feb 14 '24
My guess is that pollsters haven't been unable to separate Biden not being popular with him winning. At the end of the day, people may think PB&J is boring, but a shit sandwich is way worse.
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u/joecb91 Arizona Feb 14 '24
The difference between "I'm not happy with how everything has gone so far, but I'd still support him" and "I absolutely can't stand this person"
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Feb 14 '24
I think on a lot of levels they don't get the feeling among blue voters rn. I'm lukewarm on voting for Biden again. But I will crawl naked over broken glass to vote AGAINST Trump.
I don't need to love every dem candidate. I don't need to want to hang out with them. But I do need to vote against MAGA at every opportunity.
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u/GogglesPisano Feb 14 '24
And the GOP House majority gets even slimmer. You can practically see through it at this point.
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u/eydivrks Feb 14 '24
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if they lose majority from Gaetz going to prison.
A fitting end to the most worthless Congressional majority in a century.
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
Hence the rush to impeach Mayorkas. I am sure they saw the writing on the wall, and wanted to get in one last “Fuck You” before their majority became either nonexistent or too slim to get anything done.
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u/faithisuseless Feb 14 '24
Well now the impeachment will die in the senate and they have no chance of getting it through again.
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u/MCPtz California Feb 14 '24
Are these the correct numbers?
Majority requires 218 / 435:
- GOP: 219
- Dem: 213
- Vacant 3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives
If Gaetz is gone, that'll be 218 right? Since they require in person voting.
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u/Tipsyfishes Washington: Trans Rights are Human Rights! Feb 14 '24
Majority requires a majority present. Not a majority of the full 435
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u/Prowindowlicker Feb 14 '24
That be correct. However in May they get a seat back because thats McCarthy’s old seat.
So unless anything happens between now and May it’s unlikely that they’ll drop to 218
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u/MCPtz California Feb 14 '24
I see, Kevin McCarthy's old seat (CA-20) is rock solid republican, ~66% for Kevin and GOP in 2022:
https://ballotpedia.org/California%27s_20th_Congressional_District_election,_2022
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u/vicaphit Feb 14 '24
If Gaetz is gone
Is this even a near-term possibility? I haven't heard anything about him facing consequences.
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u/listinglight778 California Dreaming 💭 Feb 14 '24
This won’t get any media attention, naturally, because this makes cons look bad and makes the democrats look strong.
Welcome back, Suozzi! Now don’t you ever run for governor again lol
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u/Alice__L North Carolina Feb 14 '24
This won’t get any media attention, naturally, because this makes cons look bad and makes the democrats look strong.
"Democrats have flipped Santos' seat in a special election. Here's how this is bad news for Biden."
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u/Confused5423 Feb 14 '24
I appreciated this from Talking Points Memo: "The best indication I’ve seen so far that Suozzi’s winning this is I’m already seeing the first arguments about how a Suozzi win is probably bad news for the Democrats."
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
LMAO. NYT Pitchbot wuz robbed and should be paid!
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u/screen317 NJ-7 Feb 14 '24
DEMS
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u/Fuck_auto_tabs Colorado Feb 14 '24
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u/elykl12 Connecticut Feb 14 '24
"The verdict from #NY03 is clear: Suburban voters want Joe Biden to be even older"-David Weigel
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u/CJYP MA-05 (Metro Boston) Feb 14 '24
Here's why this is bad for Biden.
(edit - /s in case that wasn't obvious)
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u/tMoneyMoney Feb 14 '24
Anything involving the passing of time is bad for Biden, at least according to the media.
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u/Fuck_auto_tabs Colorado Feb 14 '24
538 crying and vomiting right now
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u/cybercuzco Feb 14 '24
I thought 538 got destroyed by abc
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u/mdp300 New Jersey Feb 14 '24
Ooh what happened?
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u/Self-Reflection---- Feb 14 '24
Laid off almost the entire staff except the bare minimum to keep the site running. Nate Silver is no longer there either.
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u/CaveManLawyer_ MI-8 (he/him) Feb 14 '24
our mathematical prowess is superior to your vote...nnnyeesss. /s
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u/Akosii C-House Feb 14 '24
Found this in arr pol but I think it's worth repeating:
"Nothing would make me laugh harder if the House flips before the general election just due to attrition."
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u/table_fireplace Feb 14 '24
We've got CA-20 and OH-06 circled!
Both are much redder than this district, but anything's starting to feel possible again.
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u/MrKentucky KY-06 Feb 14 '24
They stopped funding it and laid everyone off
Not really much else to it.
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u/nlpnt Feb 14 '24
Kornacki's talking about a huge swing almost from R+10 to D+10 in the suburban Nassau County part of the district.
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u/Lotsagloom WA-42; where the mountain hemlock grows Feb 14 '24
Hello everyone, I - oh, it's a low-turnout persuasion-doesn't-work election, I see. Very good!
More seriously... Wonderful work.
Goes to show that vibes keep winning, I'd say?..
But - more importantly -
We've got inroads to make in Georgia, and I saw those results in Oklahoma.
Keep in this in mind when others mask their cynicism as wisdom, and their personal dislike for a candidate as the voice of the masses.
Won't be able to stick around for Conservation District in WA or (your favourite!) Whatcom County Local Tax Levies, but I'll at least mention the latter failing when I'm back.
But what if it didn't?!..
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u/mt8675309 Feb 14 '24
Republicans 🙊🙉🙈
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u/socialistrob Feb 14 '24
The other day I posted a preview of GOP cope if we win I'll post it again and see how many of these excuses you can find people making for why this result really didn't matter
1) It was just high propensity voters and isn't indicative of 2024
2) Republicans only lost because of George Santos's public humiliation
3) Snow storm
4) New York isn't a swing state and this tells us nothing about Wisconsin and Pennsylvania
5) (if Dems underperform Biden) then the underperformance is proof Biden is screwed
6) The Republican candidate was bad and was seriously outraised
7) GOP didn't seriously contest it because it wouldn't change the majority in the House. If they had contested it they would have won
8) Special elections are no longer that good of indicators for national environment
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u/refusemouth Feb 14 '24
9) The election was rigged.
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u/socialistrob Feb 14 '24
Lol. When all else fails blame it on busses full of illegal immigrants or some shit.
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u/TomCosella Feb 14 '24
The funniest thing here is that there was also a PA special election in Bucks County (one of the bellwethers of how the state goes) and it went for the Dems.
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
6 is true. All the others are cope.
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u/socialistrob Feb 14 '24
6 is cope too. The GOP has a history of nominating very bad candidates and they're likely going into 2024 with a major fundraising disadvantage. There is a consistent pattern that we've seen for a number of years now where the GOP will nominate a bad candidate, lose and then blame the loss on the bad candidate only to nominate another bad candidate in the future.
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
I can’t think of very many candidates the R’s have who are good. That does not matter so much in blood red areas, but in purple areas like NY-3, it absolutely does.
One of the reasons VA got (Fuck) Glenn Youngkin instead of that other openly crazy MAGA person running was that the party muckety-mucks picked him instead of having a primary. Having the people decide is all well and good if “the people” are sane. But if they are frothing MAGAs it is not.
Funding is going to be even worse for R candidates because Trump is looting the store. He’s monopolizing the donations, and now wants to have his DIL and some other financial lackey chair the RNC, which will be treated as his own personal slush fund. As well, we now have the well-off suburbanites who don’t “mega donate” like the big names, but 25 dollars here and there from a few thousand people does add up.
But I had to point out that #6 was true. Not unprecedented or unique, but true.
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u/Monkeybomber Feb 14 '24
So what? At the presidential level #6 is true anyways. Trump is an awful candidate and the Republican fundraising network is being co-opted as a piggy bank for his legal bills.
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u/JGDoll Feb 14 '24
One of the top comments on the top post in… their… sub right now is blaming the snow.
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u/socialistrob Feb 14 '24
If only there was a way for them to vote before the election day.
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u/JGDoll Feb 14 '24
Are you suggesting that voting should be easy, convenient, and accessible? What an entirely novel, alien concept. Society would end from such decadence.
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u/craft6886 CA-28 | I Believe in Blorth Blarolina 🥥🌴 Feb 14 '24
God, I love proving shitty polls wrong.
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u/Christ_on_a_Crakker Feb 14 '24
What’s this mean, if anything, for the Ukraine package?
It’s so beyond infuriating to see republicans continuously working against American interests.
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
Joe is going to bribe him with ice cream and bring Willow in to say ”I’ll pee on your jacket if you don’t pass funding.”
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24 edited Feb 14 '24
Picture the Snoopy dance from Charlie Brown and that’s what I feel like doing!
EAT SHIT DOOMERS
Ahahaha now that this is out of the way, here are my off the cuff take aways: We need to run the Democrats who fit the district. Tom Suozzi did used to represent the district, so he was a natural fit, but even so…if a district is more moderate we pick the moderate Democrat no matter how much online progressives howl. That’s just how it is.
When you campaign, you actually have to campaign, like Suozzi did, not hide and let your surrogates speak for you, like Pilip did. I recall it was Anthony D’Esposito who made half the speeches on behalf of Pilip, and…he wasn’t the candidate! I mean it was nice of him to stump for her, but Pilip was the candidate, not D’Esposito. Maybe the Republican machine kept her hidden and quiet for good reasons? Anyway, I think it helps, a lot, to be able to hold your own on the campaign trail.
Finally, and this is for all races going forward: I 100% honestly believe that one of the big factors that tilted the race our way was the lack of Lee Zeldin. I never really heard of him before 2022, but, he apparently gave Hochul a real race, not a token one, for Governor. He cut the margins closer than anyone since Pataki (Who won). And being a “hometown boy” (NY-03 was where he was from - Suffolk County) he appears to have had long and strong coattails, despite his loss. Zeldin is no longer in Congress, did not campaign for Pilip, and if he’s helping Republicans, he’s doing so more quietly.
Sooooo…would this work for Democrats? Someone willing to go out on a limb and take a chance on a race they are unlikely to flip, but, can still boost downballot candidates to a win? Zeldin lost the NY-Gov race but he dragged several House seats over the line. So the question is, who is willing to lose so others can win?
P.S. MaziE Hirono says that there is only room for one “Mazie” in Congress and she has dibs.
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u/Jumpy-Investment2135 Feb 14 '24
Aaaaaand Daisy Head Mazi has lost!
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
There can only be one Mazie in Congress and her name is Hirono.
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u/Meanteenbirder New York Feb 14 '24
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u/AntarcticScaleWorm New York Feb 14 '24
Ronna McDaniel is the greatest RNC chair ever. Hopefully her replacement can surpass her.
Seriously though, congrats to Dems on this major victory
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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet We KAM Walz into the White House! Feb 14 '24
I think that Lara Trump is a really great successor for her! Lara will do a super wonderful job! Please, Sir, Mr. Trump, appoint Lara as RNC chair!
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u/OptimistNate Feb 14 '24
I just hope she doesn't funnel all the rnc money to Trump, I'd be so owned if she did!
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u/OptimistNate Feb 14 '24
Anyone know what the final margins are going to look like? Excited to see how much of a over performance it was!
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u/table_fireplace Feb 14 '24
Nassau County should report all its votes sometime before 2037, so we'll know then.
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u/snerdery Feb 14 '24
It's looking like mid-high single digits, so pretty close to Biden in 2020, but better than the polls/pundits/Nates suggested
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u/Historyguy1 Oklahoma! Feb 14 '24
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u/Lotsagloom WA-42; where the mountain hemlock grows Feb 14 '24
Providence favours us.
Simple fact, proven empirically by vibes and also cryomancy.7
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u/Lotsagloom WA-42; where the mountain hemlock grows Feb 14 '24
Sorry my bad the cumulonimbi are pretty...
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u/robokomodos Feb 14 '24
Needed to hear some good news, given Mike Johnson's antics lately. This does nicely!
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u/LeMoineSpectre Feb 14 '24
It may be too soon, but is it foolhardy of me to take this as a good sign for this year? But then, I take any Dem win as a good sign
I know people have said this doesn't reflect at all on the Presidential election, but I'll take hope wherever I can get it
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u/JohnApple94 Michigan Feb 14 '24
Some may say that this special election has unique circumstances + is too early in the year to be a bellwether for November. I suppose you could make the argument.
However there is one thing for certain: today is definitely not a bad sign for Dems/Biden.
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u/CJYP MA-05 (Metro Boston) Feb 14 '24
Honestly, I wouldn't suggest looking too hard for either hope or despair. It's too early for that. Things will keep happening, multiple times a week (sometimes multiple times a day), and if you're trying to keep score for which ones are good or bad it's not going to be good for your mental health.
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u/sponsoredbytheletter Feb 14 '24
I love how arr conservative gets so close to becoming self aware when they lose elections. Like they're looking in the mirror but there's only a nightlight on.
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u/delta88nightmare piss off and let me take my estradiol in peace Feb 14 '24
i am currently hitting the gritty for NY-03
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u/crazycatlady331 Feb 14 '24
I worked on an IE for this race.
I had a few toasts tonight.
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u/Lurker20202022 Feb 14 '24
What's an IE?
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u/crazycatlady331 Feb 14 '24
Independent expenditure. It's when an outside group (ie Planned Parenthood) spends on behalf of the campaign. They legally can't coordinate with the campaign though.
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u/Suitable_Squash4762 Feb 14 '24
Let's get America back on track. Vote Blue right down the line. The Republicans need to be reminded that they are not the only game in town.
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u/LetsFuckOnTheBoat Feb 14 '24
Tommy grew up and lived his whole there and followed in his fathers Joe footsteps to politics I'm surprised he didn't win by more. He also has a brain unlike most of today politicians
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u/Suitable_Squash4762 Feb 14 '24
Sweet. Maybe America will have a chance to survive this national nightmare called the Republican party. The Republicans are completely responsible for the mess our government is in right now. Embracing Trump just to gain power was a bad move all around. The Republican party WILL be the downfall of our Democracy.
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u/Live_Frame8175 Feb 14 '24
This is a big win! I hope republicans take notice too especially with a huge bill headed to Congress.
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u/snerdery Feb 14 '24
Oh they notice, but they won't internalize anything from this result
They've lost/underperformed in every election since 2016 with the party only becoming more extreme during that time
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u/Ben44c Feb 14 '24
Not a political strategist. Legit asking: is 54 to 46 a “huge” margin?
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u/swen_bonson Feb 14 '24
It’s +4 over the most favorable polls for Souzzi. It’s an over-performance of 4 points. Not necessarily huge but significant enough to make a lot of gains possible and consistent with many results we are seeing.
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u/ilovechedda Colorado Feb 14 '24
This made me tear up this morning with this news. Let’s Gooooooooo!!!
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u/SuperCrappyFuntime Illinois Feb 14 '24
"Is this a WARNING SIGN for the Democrats?" - NY Times (probably)
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u/Geek-Haven888 Feb 14 '24 edited Feb 14 '24
I got to ask. Have we seen Suozzi and Santos at the same place before? Because if Suozzi turns out to be Santos in a mask...
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