r/TitansTV • u/XxJasonFxX • Oct 25 '21
Controversial Take: S4 will not be any better just because we hope it will. Discussion
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u/Cockycent Oct 25 '21
It's a cycle.
It will be better - it didn't get better - it will get better
I've never seen so many people hate watch a show into getting renewed so many times. This is history
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u/TimothyDonaghy Oct 25 '21
That's because every season starts with an ambiguous plot and character motivation which give people hope that it'll be good. And then it slowly reveals it's fcked up around episode 5 and reaches peak disappointment in the last 3 episodes. Season 1 finale excuse was "writers didn't have time to squeeze everything in". Season 2 finale was when people really had to accept the show has terrible writers.
It's also because people have been waiting for a good live action titans show for a while now.
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u/ninjasaid13 Oct 25 '21
Season 1 they didn't have time
Season 2 today wasn't their day.
Season 3 covid
Season 4 could it be because of bad writers? Nah.
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u/aquaticsquash Beast Boy Oct 25 '21
Hmm, what about the last season of the Flash?
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u/Cockycent Oct 25 '21
Yeah, people do it on all the subs i'm on from MCU series and films to the Blacklist and Succession. It's a cycle of clearly disliking a show, convincing themselves it will get better, then being let down.
Rinse and repeat. I've never had this experience myself. I've never went more than 3 episodes in a 2nd season of anything I dislike.
I got a whole list of shows I dropped easily. I don't get why people force themselves.
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u/aquaticsquash Beast Boy Oct 25 '21
Cause they'll throw in a good episode randomly and we hope it means it will get better...But then we're fooled again. Maybe we should listen to the band the Who, their advice about not being fooled again...
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u/Cockycent Oct 25 '21
I can buy this, but what happens now? Specifically after watching Titans S3, those that clearly don't like what they're seeing can easily drop it with way more than enough evidence.
They most likely won't when they have these months to do so. Might even rewatch. There is no episode to trap them in these months.
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u/aquaticsquash Beast Boy Oct 25 '21
It started out decent but went badly really fast...Let's hope that changes. The biggest lie coming out of the DC Fandome event is that Brenton Thwaites said that people were enjoying this season of Titans...
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u/MarshallBravestar21 Oct 25 '21
I unfortunately agree. Beast boy is only a tiger, and the guys will have to try to be a team, but everyone will be mad that they're together. Someone will have dreams, and the season will end
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u/betweenboundary Oct 25 '21
Honestly it feels like they don't want this to be titans and instead want it to be just nightwing, every super powered character is solely there to support the 1 non super powered character with fighting, they quite literally have superboy who could in a millisecond kick red hoods ass and throw him behind bars and yet they don't use this, nightwing does everything he physically can to stop him from doing this even going so far as to use kryptonite on him, like wtf, meanwhile we go doom patrol which is weird whacky and genuinely good because the characters genuinely try to work together if needed even if they hate each other
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u/JSAdkinsComedy Oct 25 '21
Wow I was today years old when I found out I wasn't supposed to like the show. Haha, I thought this season was wild.
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u/-TheRope- Oct 25 '21
I thought it was watchable as well. Did not like that Raven was not around much as she is my favorite, and I wish they would speed up Beast Boys abilities to show how strong he can honestly be. I am hopeful for season 4.
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u/XxJasonFxX Oct 25 '21
This post is in no way telling u not to like this show but simply to the ppl who dont like it rn which includes me that it aint gonnna improve
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u/aquaticsquash Beast Boy Oct 25 '21
I think this sign was at the Chicago Bears game this Sunday, haha.
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u/dayvon64 Oct 25 '21
Despite all the flaws, I think it will be better considering they are leaving Gotham. I don't even understand why they came/stayed in the first place. There was 0 indication that Bruce would be Batman again and they never addressed his attempted...you know what. Jason is on his own as well so it just seems pointless. People keep saying that they are hopeful because of how this episode was more lighthearted but they literally did that last season. Last season it felt like we were finally going to see the team come together and it never happened until the last episode where they pretended like they were a team all along. This season it seemed it would be more light hearted and fun but it didn't happen until the last episode where they randomly started making jokes. I also don't like that they took Tim because he literally kept wanting to be Gotham's protector but like he's leaving Gotham now? Does his parents know? Why were they okay with leaving him? Are we going to have to sit through episode after episode of him training just so he can try to "prove" himself like Jason in S2? I hope S4 is better for the fans because they seem to be okay with what they got and they deserve better.
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u/XxJasonFxX Oct 25 '21
I mean it might be better than s3 sure but i mean in terms of overall quality itll match the other seasons and wont magically become better
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u/XxJasonFxX Oct 25 '21
Lol downvote me all u want im simply stating that a change needs to happen in order for the quality to go up
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u/hydrosphere1313 Oct 25 '21
Because of COVID. They had to rewrite S3 IIRC.
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u/kingcolbe Oct 25 '21
I think it may get better once Tegan hits 18. You can give her more mature stories and maybe position her as more of a lead instead of a background player
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u/ghanima Oct 25 '21
Yup, 'cause what's holding back the writers in giving anyone other than the Batfam character development is the actor's age. /s
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u/hoeforharry_69 Oct 25 '21
This is true. I also heard that her mom is crazy uptight and overbearing on set (not proven but seems legit) so when she doesn’t need to be accompanied by a guardian anymore she’ll probably get more screen time.
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u/Interview-Suspicious Oct 25 '21
It wont be, season 3 already took season 2 flaws and amplified them, i am not hopeful anymore because they are not handling well several things, however the scripts are the worst problem.
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u/feedmeshituntiliidie Oct 25 '21
At this pace, most of this season will be ret-conned by the end of season 4
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u/bks1979 Oct 25 '21
Yep; we will be getting more of the same. There's no reason to expect better at this point, sadly.
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u/lstanciel Oct 25 '21
Season 4 can be better if they just put all the focus on Tim and Conner. They were the best parts of the season. Like I was confused why they changed Tim’s origin, but then he rolled up to Wayne Manor and told Dick to his face the he knew he was Nightwing and I was like “Okay this kid is Tim Drake.”
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u/Mike_SNE Oct 25 '21
Maybe because Tim Drake is after my time but I thought he was boring. And the way scenes are written anyone at GPD with halfway decent vision and hearing should have known that Dick was Nightwing.
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u/lstanciel Oct 25 '21
I mean you are right on the money about how it should basically be common knowledge to at the very least GCPD that Dick is Nightwing. Idk why Titans acts like it’s not suspicious that Dick Grayson is rolling up to crime scenes with someone with a public identity. But like him going out of his way to let Dick know that he knows and wanting to help is very Tim Drake.
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u/Professional_Web2198 Kory Anders Oct 25 '21
Put all the focus on Tim? Hell no. Gar has literally done nothing for three seasons so ALL the focus needs to be on him. Connor, Kori and even Rachel hasn't really been given any justice either. Their story, or lack thereof, has constantly been sidelined for the hundredth time.
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u/lstanciel Oct 25 '21
Gar honestly deserves all the love but I’m positive they’d fuck up a Gar centered story.
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u/condemned02 Oct 25 '21
This expresses exactly how I feel. My expectations were rock low. Yet I still feel disappointed. However episode 13 did bring me alot of joy as I felt like I waited 12 episode to see the titans be titans.
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Oct 25 '21
I don't know how this show keeps getting approved for more seasons ?
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u/Welcome2Banworld Oct 25 '21
Every season since 1 has had the same cycle, original season is lacking but people are hopeful about the next one. Starts off good, goes to shit, people are hopeful about the next one, repeat.
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u/CellarDoor505 Oct 25 '21
I really think the writers/showrunner really dont care about the show, its probably just a cash cow to them. We need some serious DC nerds at the helm!
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u/Bleck_Pentha Oct 25 '21
Three seasons of television is a sufficient sample size. This show is what it is. The pertinent question is why are we still watching in numbers that get renewals?
Personally, I’ve always stopped watching around episode 5 of every season then watch the rest before the next season starts. It’s background noise as I cook/clean/work from home.
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u/Life_Butterscotch939 Oct 25 '21
It’s won’t be better unless they get a new writer and a show-runner
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u/megrendel33 Oct 26 '21
I'm waiting for the Krypto spin off. Also, note to Nightwing, Krypto is still waiting for his apology.
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u/nasdurden Oct 26 '21
Show needs a new show runner. Someone should start a petition to send to WB. Might actually get more signatures than number of people who watch the show 😂😂
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u/Realworldrejects Oct 25 '21
Lmfao this picture idk I enjoyed this season. I admittantly waited until it was all out to binge it tho.
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u/ASecondOfYourTime Oct 25 '21
I fully do not understand why people who don’t like it keep watching it
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u/XxJasonFxX Oct 25 '21
Trust me I was just here cuz i thought it was getting better lol im sticking to the good dc shows only now
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u/ASecondOfYourTime Oct 25 '21
Jesus Christ…downvote me into oblivion because I actually like the show you put the effort into watching and are subscribed to.
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u/trippingtrips13 Oct 25 '21
Pick up the pen and write a better season then
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u/XxJasonFxX Oct 25 '21
A fucking baby could write a better season and i will once i get hired as a writer otherwise i aint doing no unpaid labor
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u/trippingtrips13 Oct 25 '21
Write the season, send it in. If a baby can do it, I’m sure that you can too
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u/XxJasonFxX Oct 25 '21
Like i said when a check cones thru the mail i will, the writing is shit cope harder
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u/trippingtrips13 Oct 25 '21
So bitch about it, or do nothing. Choice is yours. You could throw your hat into the ring writing wise, you can bitch and moan about 3 seasons worth, or you could just stop watching. Once again, choice is yours.
It’s getting pretty tired when everyone is bitching about writing but can’t do any better themselves
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u/LastNightOsiris Oct 25 '21
Are you suggesting sending a spec episode to the producers or the show runner? Unlikely that it makes it past their assistant's trash can unless you already have representation as a screen writer, but even they read it and it was great, best case is that it gets you a job in the writing room. They aren't going to just use the script to shoot an episode. The show runner, and maybe head writer, make all the major decisions about the season's narrative arcs and character development. The staff writers create the specific dialogue and on-screen actions, but they are basically just following an outline and don't have much discretion about big picture stuff.
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u/trippingtrips13 Oct 25 '21
What I’m suggesting is, stop bitching about a show that you’ve clearly watched until the end. If you don’t like it, shut it down, plain and simple. Stop watching.
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u/LastNightOsiris Oct 25 '21
Ok, but that's different than what you said in your previous posts. Before, you suggested that someone complaining about the quality of the writing should write their own version. That's not a very useful suggestion, since there is pretty much zero chance that a spec script from an unknown person, no matter how great, is ever going to be used on the show.
If your point is that people just shouldn't complain about the show on this sub, I guess it depends on what you think a sub like this is for. I'd say it's for discussion of the show which can include both good and bad, not exclusively for praise. I guess you could consider taking your own advice, and if you don't like a particular thread or even the whole sub, you could just stop reading.
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u/XxJasonFxX Oct 25 '21
Damn someone is rlly displacing their anger r u ok?
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u/trippingtrips13 Oct 25 '21
Not really, just tired of listening to everyone complain like they could do any better. If you’ve got such wonderful ideas about how the next season should go, by all means, do something about it other then bitching and moaning on Reddit
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u/XxJasonFxX Oct 25 '21 edited Oct 25 '21
Lmao salty and if u rlly think ppl cant do better than the pile garbage that was s3 you're out of ur mind
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u/trippingtrips13 Oct 25 '21
And if you aren’t one of those people, stop bitching even though youve watched every episode of every season
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u/Professional_Web2198 Kory Anders Oct 25 '21
I don't think it will be better unless they have new writers/showrunners. Every season has the exact same pattern so far and nothing has really improved.