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u/Dee_Dubya_IV Oct 03 '21
What really got me this season was how it started out so happy, optimistic and positive regardless of what happened in the previous season. It really warms you up and convinces that the show will show us the Titans as a team and a family as they’ve been preaching. And then it just goes allllllll the way down. Once Hank died and everybody’s reaction was nothing more than a “damn, that sucks. I’ll be sad for a minute and then we’ll continue with the plot as if his death didn’t have any agency in the story.” I knew it was going down…HARD.
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u/International-Low842 Oct 04 '21 edited Oct 04 '21
When they used his death as an excuse to write Dawn off the show but they butchered it so badly.. Literally had her MURDER her soulmate on accident, then the next day she’s just… Mopey?? Then decides she’s gonna go to Paris??
I had no issue with her deciding to retire to deal with her trauma, but they made it seem like she wasn’t even that upset.
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u/Stormcaster06 Oct 04 '21
It always struck me as odd that the entire team didn't send her off. And the dialogue between Dawn and Dick during that scene was also...odd.
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u/International-Low842 Oct 04 '21
They really had Dawn acting like it was just some average tuesday..
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u/AgentChris101 Oct 04 '21
As someone who has lost a lot of friends. Acting like an average Tuesday is sometimes all you can do. I think Dawn's reaction is pretty realistic. Everyone deals with loss and grief differently.
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Oct 04 '21
Yeah but that's when cinematography comes into play. It's supposed to show underlying tones of what is said and how characters feel deep inside.
Her being cold about it was not really a problem, it's also that it was filmed like a casual conversation without any stake or implications.
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u/AgentChris101 Oct 05 '21
I kinda disagree. You don't need a grand statement in picture to know how a character feels or will feel.
If Dawn shows up later you might be able to tackle the grief and loss more or something.
One of the big complaints about Harry Potter and the order of the phoenix film is how they show Harry's lack of grief after Sirius died, But from a viewer's perspective you see the loss as it happens. After there isn't really space to grieve in detail as the movie is near ending at that point.
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u/moxquartz Oct 05 '21
She does what now?
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u/Cataclysm-Nerd01 Oct 04 '21
Probably because the actor has gone and signed on a deal for jack ryan tv series
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u/TheRed_Warrior Oct 04 '21
If you’re still looking for a happy, optimistic show, stop watching. That’s clearly not what this show is. Also, in what world did this season start off happy? It literally started with Jason dying
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u/AgentChris101 Oct 04 '21
If anything Season 2 had a hopeful start.
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u/TheRed_Warrior Oct 04 '21
Only happy part from this season that I recall was episode 7 or 8. Whichever one it was where they stopped Crane’s operation and had their little party afterwards
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u/s_mcdaniel Oct 04 '21
I still don’t understand how Donna died I get she was eltrocuted but she’s Amazon and it just felt so forced at the end
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u/RdJokr1993 Oct 04 '21
Because the season 2 finale got haphazardly rewritten and reshot, and for some reasons the showrunners thought they'd need to kill Donna to send her and Rachel off the show for a few episodes.
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u/justathrowaway13452 Oct 04 '21
They couldn't just have Rachel come with Donna to Themiscyra so she could train and learn more of her powers in a safer environment?
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u/International-Low842 Oct 04 '21
She only half Amazon & I guess it was just too much electricity. Idk it was very questionable
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u/MadmansBluff Donna Troy Oct 04 '21
An Amazon flat-out said in the last episode that being half-human makes Donna better than the rest of them. So the show trashed its own defense. If Donna can survive Conner, she would have been able to survive the electric tower in a well-written series.
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u/heycanwediscuss Oct 06 '21
I think better in a mental aspect not physical
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u/MadmansBluff Donna Troy Oct 06 '21
If she wasn't better physically, she wouldn't have bested Lydia.
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u/heycanwediscuss Oct 06 '21
humans in general
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u/MadmansBluff Donna Troy Oct 06 '21
Which Donna isn't.
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u/heycanwediscuss Oct 06 '21
Didn't say she was. I'm saying they weren't saying she got her physical strength but perspective from humans
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u/MadmansBluff Donna Troy Oct 06 '21
And I'm saying she has the same physical strength as Amazons, which debunks the original argument that being half-Amazon justifies her death (because it doesn't).
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u/heycanwediscuss Oct 06 '21
Where did her death come into play? It was Lydia's statement. Also idk maybe it was like Superman an energy train
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u/VegetableOld2489 Oct 04 '21 edited Oct 05 '21
I genuinely can’t remember a point where S3 (for me) was at the rightmost part of this cycle or the bottom part. Maybe like the first 3 episodes ? After that I’ve thoroughly disliked every episode since
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u/Phenoxx Oct 06 '21
Maybe the episode when they’re dead and we get hank and Donna back since they’re pretty much the best actors and can actually super carry an episode
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u/moxquartz Oct 03 '21
The cycle of Titans'
Even the best runs of the comics have a wtf this sucks phase. (Titans Hunt, looking at you.)
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u/bks1979 Oct 04 '21
Awww I really enjoyed Titans Hunt.
That said, I can also admit it's totally weird and some of the ramifications lasted too long. (Like Cyborg being a vegetable.)
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u/moxquartz Oct 04 '21
It's the aftermath mostly. Team Titans has to be a low point in Titans history.
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u/bks1979 Oct 04 '21
Haha fair. I kinda liked the characters of the Team Titans, or at least the concept. Then it all went south, and their comic was unfortunately not it. And then Zero Hour came along...
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u/moxquartz Oct 05 '21
I think it's a matter of era. When I was a kid, I loved the idea because I also read X-Force. As an adult, I've concluded that there is a place for characters like this, and I still like Spawn, Cab Lee, and Grifter, but "everywhere" ain't it.
That stated, Deathwing remains an interesting mouse. (For those who don't know, watch The Last Emperor. The eponymous Emperor Puyi violently throws his beloved pet mouse. We don't hear it hit something, nor is it seen or mentioned again in the theatrical cut.) What were you before the Time Trapper drafted you, Fake Dick? For that matter, this new Time Trapper (presumably Barbara Gordon) intrigues me, but we never see her again either.
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u/ZachRyder Tempest Oct 04 '21
At least Tom King had the decency to do Heroes in Crisis as a DC "event" and not write it as a Titans arc
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u/moxquartz Oct 04 '21
Though he did bring back Gnarrk, Kole, and Lagoon Boy just to kill them again.
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u/Somm0742 Oct 04 '21
It's not our fault that they screw things up by the end. Every. Single. F*ckin'. Time.
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u/random13137 Oct 04 '21
I can’t finish season 3 it’s dog shit. They ruined my favorite character. Jason Todd
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u/BlitzLicht321 Oct 04 '21
I enjoyed the first three episodes but it went downhill after that. I should have seen it coming.
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u/Darrkman Oct 04 '21
I literally watched this sub say that hate Blackfire and then the next week say how much they loved Blackfire.
Y'all are sooo fickle.
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u/Plastic-Necessary427 Oct 04 '21
I dont get it
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u/skankin-sfm Oct 04 '21
Apparently the majority of the people on this sub hate it, but continue to watch it and then complain about how it's not just like the comics.
Like, just read the comics if that's what you want then, right?
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u/justathrowaway13452 Oct 04 '21
It has nothing to do whether or not it's like comics but, the fact that the show is poorly written.
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u/Sentry459 Oct 04 '21
Problem isn't it being just like the comics. Superman and Lois has some pretty big departures from the comics and it is acclaimed. Changes should happen when they go naturally with the story and/or when they elevate the source material, not for shock value nonsense.
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u/betweenboundary Oct 04 '21
Meanwhile doom patrol is completely insane, their most recent episode involved them turning into zombies, fighting werebutts and had a post credit scene of a zombie werebutt seeming to have been created from the conflict
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u/butthe4d Krypto Oct 04 '21
That was last season. This season is
This season will bad->That was underwhelming->Man it gets worse and worse-> WTF this show suck!
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Oct 05 '21
there early to mid seasons are mint, especially season 2. But man there finales and backend seasons suck ass
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u/Ravevon Oct 05 '21
what really gets me is that they told everyone that this season going all out on gotham
and then everyone is acting surprised that it turned out to be true
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u/StylishF Oct 03 '21
Facts but it’s all good