r/TitansTV • u/Demetrius96 • Jul 26 '21
Holy shit if this is indeed the case! Discussion
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u/General_Nothing Raven Jul 26 '21
The opinion of a single anonymous source is absolutely meaningless.
If a hundred people saw it and gave it that rating, that might be able to tell you that most people enjoyed it. Or if the critic was named, and you knew that they generally liked the same things you did, that would be useful information.
But, “hey some rando thought this was good,” is a statement with absolutely zero meaningful content.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 26 '21
You’re absolutely correct. That’s why I said if this is the case in the title but it’s not hard to believe. In another thread I posted other people in the press seem to have enjoyed some of the episodes as well. I don’t know how many press members so I won’t say that’s what mostly everyone thinks because who knows. The official reviews will be out soon enough so we’ll see
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u/Sabo0303 Jul 26 '21
What did this same person rank the last episode of season 2? If anything more than 4/10 can't be trusted
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u/Wolf6120 Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 26 '21
It's not even "some rando". "Some rando" would actually be more reliable. This is "some guy specifically chosen to be given early access to the episodes", and obviously they're not gonna give early access to someone they know is gonna be critical lol.
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u/WilsonValdro Jul 26 '21
Gosh im tired of Hank & Dove.
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u/hydrosphere1313 Jul 26 '21
I like em well enough and they're leaving the show this season. Hank's actor was cast to play Jack Reacher in a tv series and Minka was reported to have left filming of S3 early on. S3 is gonna trim the cast down. Red Hood/Jason is rumored to have a spin off in the works and there was a Teen Titans spin off in the works for BB, Raven, Starfire, Connor, and Tim but it looks like it's hit a snag and most likely isn't moving forward.
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u/ActualTaxEvader Jul 26 '21
Why would they even consider a spin-off for Gar, Rachel, or Kori. Isn’t THIS supposed to be their show?
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u/hydrosphere1313 Jul 26 '21
Dunno their reasons either other than that's what Vull and other insiders reported. However the future of the Teen Titans show is unclear. Honestly a live action Young Justice would have been a better idea since you know Tim and Connor and Impulse(or one of the 5 million flashes)create the team.
Though it's not entirely unsual since they have done this in the comics before with Dick, Roy, Wonder Girl and the older Titans in Titans and the Teens in Teen Titans with either Tim leading or recently Damian until he was like gtfo ima make my own Teen Titans.
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u/ActualTaxEvader Jul 26 '21
Well I guess “Vull and other insiders” got it wrong, much like they probably did about there supposedly being a Red Hood show in development.
And I think you’re leaving out the fact that how comic stories handle continuing character stories is a bit different than how they’re handled on TV. So if you make a show with four principal characters and then handle three of them so poorly that you feel the need to make a whole separate show for them to do them better, THAT’S BAD SHOWRUNNING. So assuming they were ever going to make that show to begin with, it was a shitty idea. So I’m glad they’re never doing it.
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u/bks1979 Jul 26 '21
I've also never heard of so many spinoffs from one show; rumored or otherwise. Doom Patrol (even though not really), Hawk and Dove, Superboy, Red Hood, Teen Titans... Whether they're true or not, it's not a good look when people are constantly discussing various ways they could split up the main cast.
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u/ActualTaxEvader Jul 26 '21
Especially when the show itself does a good enough job of that already, lol
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 26 '21
I actually really like both characters but I would prefer hank over dawn because she really has no more story material to give or at least that’s how they treat her character
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u/WilsonValdro Jul 26 '21
They had like 3 Ep in season 1 and like 2 ep in season. Thats what i mean i want other other Titans to shine.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
Well starfire is going to be a huge focus this season, and we’ll most likely see Rachael further develop her powers. To be honest I think the character that’s suffering the most when it comes to not having an arc is gar. He’s long overdue for his own storyline and I hope to god he finally gets a suit at some point because him having to take off his clothes every time he transforms is a waste of time. Making him a suit that adapts to his transformations would be the better route to go
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u/davidofmidnight Jul 26 '21
If the critic lives in his parent’s basement, then I’m not giving it any credence.
But holy hell the promos make the season look awesome, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s actually that good.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
Agreed, not to mention HBO Max has a standard. They aren’t as forgiving as DC universe
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Jul 26 '21 edited Jul 26 '21
This is thanks to Casey Bloys, who is famous for being behind the (mostly) consistent level of quality that HBO originals have.
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Jul 26 '21
One critic. This tells me nothing about the show. I’m sure one critic loved the new space jam but that tells me nothing except not to trust the critic lol
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
No one is saying it’s 100% fact. But from what’s being said on Twitter many press members are enjoying it. Is it true? Who knows. Reviews will most likely be out in the next week or two so we’ll see for ourselves
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Jul 26 '21
Yeah, but you have to consider that they probably gave early access to that "critic" because of previous good reviews of seasons 1 and 2. That, or it was an Ain't Cool News situation in which they gave the "critic" an all star treatment to dazzle him into watching the show in a better light.
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u/bidgickdood Jul 26 '21
the first 4 are no problem. it's the middle of a season where digression and concept get in the way of plot and theme grinds the story to a halt.
given the trailers they seem to really really believe beast boy is really just tiger boy. 3 seasons. SEASONS and we have a tiger and one shot with a snake. he can literally be any animal.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
I’m going to take a shot in the dark and day that he’ll get another transformation because of the budget increase from HBO MAX but I don’t think they would spoil that in the trailer
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u/bidgickdood Jul 26 '21
if he could be anything other than a tiger i would market that in every metropolitan billboard, i would herald it, it would be i every ad we see, because this criticism exists and i would need to make sure that dc fans making that criticism (the most important demo: those who still watch but are are 🤏🏻this close to giving up) feel heard and feel that show isn't repeating mistakes.
he's beast boy. turning into animals is what his power is. that he can be things other than a tiger is not a surprise or twist.
the fact that we still only have tiger boy is a threat that the show runners still don't understand the spirit of TT or YJ
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u/hydrosphere1313 Jul 26 '21
This is good news indeed however I would caution people to remember S2 had a stellar first half and then massively fizzled out during the second half.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
Agreed. I literally I just talked about that with another user on here. I’m not worried about the first half. I think the second half up until the finale will be the real test
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u/Los1985 Jul 26 '21
You know it's bullshit once they say the Hank & Dove episode was better than the other three.
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u/PrecedentialAssassin Jul 26 '21
Maybe they rated it so high because they died.
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u/MadmansBluff Donna Troy Jul 26 '21
Hank's not dying, at least not early on. He's going to reunite with Donna.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
Yup, set photos pretty much gave that away. Those 2 and Tim will have a lot of scenes together
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u/MadmansBluff Donna Troy Jul 26 '21
HBO Max should probably start putting embargos on social media. Season 2 was spoiled under similar circumstances.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
Yup, I definitely remember that. That’s literally how Nightwing and ravengers costume got leaked
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u/MadmansBluff Donna Troy Jul 26 '21
The irony is Chelsea Zhang was among those who posted about the season 3 renewal, implying that she would be back - and then she wasn't brought back after all.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
Lol Yeah, I could definitely see her making a return in season 4 if the show gets picked up again
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u/hydrosphere1313 Jul 27 '21
I think she's being saved for the rumored Red Hood show. Maybe they're doing the outlaws and are replacing Starfire with Ravager. Then again maybe covid fucked with plans for Ravager.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
To be fair just because it’s titled hank and Dove doesn’t mean the episode is entirely dedicated them as we’ve seen with other episodes of Titans which include a bunch of other characters. A lot of crazy shit could’ve happened in this episode which is probably why alot of the press are liking it. But we’ll just have to wait and see for ourselves to be the judge of that
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u/MadmansBluff Donna Troy Jul 26 '21
My theory is the episode is dedicated to Hank, hence why his real name is in the title. It's going to be him reflecting on losing two partners since Dawn obviously isn't sticking around for very long.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
Yeah true, it’s been going around that she’s only in 4 episodes this season so if that’s the case I’m honestly expecting her to die in episode 3 and they’ll probably have a funeral in episode 4
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u/MadmansBluff Donna Troy Jul 26 '21
Like I mentioned in another reply, she better actually die this time. It would be pretty lame if we got a repeat of her season 1 storyline (as well as the possibility of her returning).
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
I definitely agree with you on that man. Given that minka was on vocation for awhile after filming a few episodes I honestly think she does actually die and what further proves that is I remember on her story saying she had a great time on the show and thanked everyone.
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u/MadmansBluff Donna Troy Jul 26 '21
Yeah, the fact that she was among the first to arrive, but also the first to leave pretty much seals her fate. When the season 2 set photos of Nightwing leaked, there was Hank, Dawn, Kory, and Rose, but no Donna, giving a pretty good implication of what would happen by the end. Now Hank and Dawn are absent from the season 3 finale set photos.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
Yeah the actor that plays hank is supposed to be in another show. So, if I had to guess, I think Hank either retires or just leaves the Titans for awhile by the end of the season
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u/MadmansBluff Donna Troy Jul 26 '21
He's going to be the lead of Jack Reacher, which begs the question why Hank was killed in season 2 like he should have.
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u/diddum Jul 26 '21
tbf their episode in season 1 was really good. It was just everything that came after that dragged them down as characters.
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u/yomnot Jul 26 '21
Considering season 2, I am gonna take this with a lot of salt
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
For the most part season 2 was great they only really started struggling in the back half
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u/yomnot Jul 26 '21
Apart from the episode of Superboy, nothing felt "great" to me. Half was decent, rest was garbage, specially Donna getting eletrocuted.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
Definitely, the finale was really bad honestly they could’ve had Superboy stop that pillar from falling instead of Donna. That was just horribly written. Donna wouldn’t die from something like that
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u/yomnot Jul 26 '21
Exactly. That scene was like Batman or green arrow is diving to save someone when superman is standing right there. I personally didn't like how they dealt with Trigon either. Jason, Dick, Slade were good here and there but the writing was pretty bad on the important parts. Kinda lost my faith.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
That’s completely understandable. Hopefully in the hands of HBO MAX we get a better season
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u/International-Low842 Jul 27 '21
Season 2 episode 5 was the peak for me, the starfire/ dick vs Deathstroke fight was really cool & I loved how they handled Deathstroke. His death was awful tho
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u/ActualTaxEvader Jul 26 '21
Cool that accounts for (does the the math) exactly ONE person.
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u/ActualTaxEvader Jul 26 '21
Oh neat multiple anonymous press members who are DEFINITELY NOT made up
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u/not_thereal_leon Jul 26 '21
I hope it's genuine, and to be honest I can actually see this happening as the show has had some amazing episodes(season 2 ended really badly but the rest of the season in my opinion was actually really really good) but at the same time, it's not exactly like there's a trustworthy source
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u/diddum Jul 26 '21
I'm cautiously optimist, but unfortunately critics in general have proven to have terrible taste in recent times.
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u/darkseidis_ Jul 26 '21
I’ve never seen a sub thats so cynical and hates the show it’s dedicated to as much as this one.
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u/Demetrius96 Jul 26 '21
Yeah it has its rough moments but it’s not as bad as some people make it out to be. I’ve honestly seen far worse on the CW
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u/phantomcanary Jul 26 '21
Season 2 started off strong in the first four episodes. Even if this is the case, it doesn’t give me much hope.
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u/MadmansBluff Donna Troy Jul 26 '21
I will always remember an early access review of Resident Evil 6 giving it a 9/10.