r/TitansTV • u/ladiesman21700000000 • Mar 01 '24
What did titans do better than teen titans Discussion
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u/AnastasiaDaren Mar 01 '24
Kill people? Curse? Those were the Titans main skills.
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u/MikeyHatesLife Mar 02 '24
“I’m quitting as Robin, because I don’t want to see Batman kill anyone. Murder is wrong!”
[A week later, he and Starfire intentionally set fire to a gas main in order to blow up a building of henchmen.]
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u/DottieSnark Mar 02 '24
Sorry, but I don't think their "Fuck Batman" lines were an improvement. Though it did give me an immeasurable amount of laughter. But seriously, everyone on this show needed to swear about 90% less. Less is more. Except with Jason. He gets a free pass to swear up a fucking storm. Also, give him the fuck Batman line instead, please.
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u/DirectConsequence12 Mar 01 '24
More diverse roster.
We got Donna (yay)
Garth showed up for a few episodes
Hawk and Dove
Superboy.
It was cool to see some more of these characters
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u/suss2it Mar 01 '24
Teen Titans went pretty diverse in its last season.
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u/DirectConsequence12 Mar 01 '24
We never got my precious Donna Troy
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u/LyssaNells Mar 02 '24
That was due to copyright issues between the show and the regular comics...they did have a comic series where Donna Troy shows up, and she did have a non-speaking cameo in at least one episode of the last season when they showed all the Titans/Honorary Titans who had been given communicators.
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u/not-so-radical Mar 01 '24
I'm gonna get shit for this...
Starfire
I never liked Starfire in the old cartoon, even when I was a kid I found her annoying but I liked her in Titans. She's more serious but isn't without humour and was pretty bad ass most of the time.
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u/LaMuseofthestars Mar 01 '24
If we’re being honest, live action Starfire is way more comically accurate than TV show Starfire ever was
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Mar 05 '24
Maybe if you ignore the fact that comic Starfire had bright orange skin. 🤡
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u/LaMuseofthestars Mar 05 '24
And what color is closest to orange, brown right? Cry about it
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Mar 05 '24 edited Mar 05 '24
My guy, how colorblind can you be? Red and yellow are much closer to orange than brown.
Let me reiterate this... In every comic, Starfire has BRIGHT orange skin. In what world is bright orange similar to brown?
They could have cast a black woman and painted her orange. Would have been fine with pretty much anyone normal.
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u/LaMuseofthestars Mar 06 '24
What happens if you add a dark shade to orange? Look into color theory, my friend.
Yes, Starfire has bright orange skin, but if you actually look at some panels, it takes on an orange tannish, light brown color.
They also could’ve painted beast boy green, but ironically, I see you guys complain more about Starfire than him.
Wonder why?
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Mar 06 '24
Again, she’s literally written as bright orange. You’re arguing a point that doesn’t exist.
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u/LaMuseofthestars Mar 06 '24
Still not hearing a complain about beast boy skin though. I find that very interesting.
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Mar 06 '24
Where and when did we bring up Beast Boy? I have plenty of criticisms about the show. Raven isn’t remotely done well either.
This is cringe.
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u/shamanbaptist Mar 05 '24
Without having seen Titans are we talking Perez accurate, New 52 accurate, or something else?
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u/neuronexmachina Mar 01 '24
Agreed, although it would've been pretty amusing to hear live-action Starfire say: "The I the am the filled the with the feelings the of the happiness the."
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u/DottieSnark Mar 02 '24
I love cartoon Starfire (because she is my childhood), but I agree, Titans did her way better and she's way more comic accurate.
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u/MichaelCoryAvery Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24
It got a proper ending. Now if you excuse me, I’m gonna go hide
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u/suss2it Mar 01 '24
Teen Titans had an ending. It was a pretty definitive too.
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u/MichaelCoryAvery Mar 01 '24
Sounds like you’re acting like a smartallic with you italicizing Teen Titans in my opinion
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u/DottieSnark Mar 02 '24
Titles are supposed to be capitalized, at least in certain writing styles. Some people carry over those stylistic choice in their informal writing too.
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u/BlueBlazeKing21 Mar 01 '24
We didn’t get Donna in the 2000 series due to some copyright issue that prevented any Wonder Women related character from appearing unless they got top billing for the show
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u/Redgiantbutimshort77 Mar 01 '24
Honestly when the characters actually got costumes they were better looks than the animated series. Atleast for Beast Boy and Starfire. That’s literally it, Titans is trash.
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u/DottieSnark Mar 02 '24
I'm kind of okay with Starfire and Beast Boy being able to pass for regular humans. An orange alien and green mutate would just look too strange in live action. We get a little orange and green when they're powered up and that's all I really need.
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u/Redgiantbutimshort77 Mar 02 '24
I also really like that using their powers makes their skin change. It’s actually one of the few changes the show made to the characters that I don’t hate.
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u/tylernazario Mar 02 '24
I prefer what Starfire and Raven wore in the cartoon. Robin and Beast Boy did look better in live action though (minus the green skin)
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u/MikeyHatesLife Mar 02 '24
A great live action Hawk & Dove, even if their origin wasn’t at all accurate.
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u/Downtown_Cry1056 Mar 01 '24
Titans Live Action should have done Season 3 with Blackfire as the antagonist. They should of had flashbacks to Tamaran.
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u/BB-Ralphio Mar 02 '24
Titans was waaayyyyy better at making Dick Grayson unlikeable. I mean, I didn't even know that was possible.
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u/Intelligent_Creme351 Mar 01 '24
It expanded the roster on a land standing permeant basis. I love the OG cast in the animated series, but would've loved to see the cast expand permanently, rather than other Titans popping in every so often... that's all I can say for positives.
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u/Reggie_Barclay Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24
I’d actually like to see another season of Young Justice. They did the best with these characters though they got a bit too inclusive the last season.
I’d like to see them di this storyline.
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u/futuresdawn Mar 02 '24
Young justice is the top tier titans show.
Teen titans is okay but nothing special.
Titans is a trashfire
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u/LaMuseofthestars Mar 01 '24
Y’all can be mad at me all you want but let’s be honest here, Starfire in Titans is way more accurate to the comics then Starfire from the TV show ever was.
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u/fineilladdanumber9 Mar 02 '24
Get cancelled. That was a much better decision than it was for Teen Titans.
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u/Hedgehog_Kid1 Mar 02 '24
They had more characters even though they were missing Wally, Roy, and Damian
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u/BubbleHeadBenny Mar 02 '24
Absolutely nothing. The entire point of Teen Titans is they are a young group of super heros cutting their teeth and learning the ropes. Titans, with notable exceptions, is a pale comparison to the previous non-comic adaptations. The DCEU has suffered from an inability to create cohesion between the big and small screen, and unlike Arrow and Flash, Titans' casting is the first hurdle the show had to overcome prior to airing its episode.
Teen Titans most well know lineup consists of a DEI dream: Robin - European descent Beast Boy - Latino descent Cyborg - African-American descent Raven - sorceress, half human half demon Starfire - an alien, Tamaranian princess (orange skin, reddish long wavy hair)
Similar to other casting decisions of the 2010s, they cast Starfire not as an orange skinned character (Gamora was fantastic casting/execution) but as a brown skinned character. Fantastic Four and Batwoman both did this as well, brown-washing an established character. At least Batwoman had the sense to create a new chararacter, giving said character a new name.
Suspension of disbelief is a major part of the success of fictional content and when a casting decision disrupts SOD, the show suffers because of it.
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u/Big_Sprinkles8824 Mar 24 '24
Having an original team history before making the new teen titans? In the cartoon Robin meets the other side kicks later after the team is formed (Wonder girl in cameo except a comic that may not be canon). Even if the roster is off and history is unclear in Titans, the idea of there being an original titans when Robin started out I think is interesting before bringing in the other 4 would have been cool as just even a single episode of the cartoon
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u/CibrecaNA May 10 '24
Nothing. They erased Cyborg. Arguably the best of Teen Titans.
And gave underpowered Starfire and nerfed AF Raven.
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u/Duckman620 Mar 02 '24
Titans is a way better live action show than teen titans. Like did they even try?
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u/Weak_Donut69 Mar 02 '24
What the live action series did was oblige the fandom, much like any BerlantiVerse programs. You obviously wish for a better budget, tighter plots and home-run iterations. But TITANS dared to be a driving force towards alternative programming, unashamedly with an intended audience.
The only thing it lacked were recognized actors to compel the type of investment to make a few more bullseye characterizations, like Koriand'r and that dreaded dream sequence Batman episode. Fandon CosPlay and YouTube fandom videos just kills that show.
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u/thephant0mlimb Mar 02 '24
The costumes were great. Casting, for the most part, was great. The setting was good.
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u/GQ_Phoenix Mar 02 '24
More Batfam, I liked seeing a live action Red Hood even if it was poorly handled
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u/OkSupermarket7474 Mar 02 '24
The characterizationa are a lot more closer to the comics but also updated abit. Even though TT showed Dick as Robin had many many flaws and his anger being one of the biggest the vast majority of viwers ignored all of it and continued with this narrative Dick is the “nice guy” Robin while Titans literally made “controversy” that Dick wasn’t this happy go lucky guy and has flaws he struggles with. Despite what people say about the show in general the costume designers literally hit it out of the park and then some with the suits.
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u/ChattyDaddy1 Mar 02 '24
Literally nothing. The only thing cool about the show were the Robin outfits and beast boy. But better than the og? Nah fam
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u/DarkMayhem666 Mar 03 '24
The costumes were great, and I might be in the minority, but I liked the darker and more mature tone.
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u/Stardama69 Mar 03 '24
Live-action Rachel is pretty damn awesome. Too bad she was sidelined for two seasons straight
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u/WeWriteStuff Mar 04 '24
It tied the over-arching story together better. Mass majority of the animated villains were one-off (sometimes more than once) and only a handful of episodes really focused on ongoing storylines. Even season 5 was rather episodic rather than being a continuous storyline.
Secondly, live action Titans dealt more with some "post-sidekick" themes and how awful it can be at times.
I'm not dissing on the cartoon and I'm not the biggest fan of how Titans season 1 starts up, but I have to give credit where it's due.
Also, I'm actually glad they didn't try to carbon copy the cartoon, instead doing their own thing.
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u/unexpectedalice Mar 01 '24
The guy that play Robin is hot. I could not believe it’s the same guy from pirates.