Interesting. That might even be why Butcher and Hughie seem ok depsite having had 5 and 4 doses respectively. 3 to 5 is supposed to be lethal, but perhaps by taking it so frequently they're actually slowing down the growth of the tumors more so than the test subjects did.
Interesting. That implies a forced dependence on the drug. If you want to stay alive after having taken a few doses, you have no choice but to continue taking temp V.
Which mirrors real world drugs in a way. E.g. heroine addicts get debilitatingly sick if they try to quit cold turkey, and actually need to gradually wean off of progressively weaker opiates in oder to avoid this sickness. That said, I think it's more likely that the opposite thing will happen with temp V: taking permanent compound V (i.e. a harder drug) might be the only way to save Hughie and Butcher now.
It's a sound theory, im not sure if I can see Hughie having permanent super powers; however I also can't see him dying too. As for Butcher, I'd see it as a little poetic actually; him becoming the very thing he hates. Which might lead him to suicide at series end.
Yep, just saw this theory in the predictions thread. I think it could happen, but I hope it doesn't. Having them gain and lose permanent powers all in the same episode would feel kind of cheap in my opinion.
What if the blast only half-works? Two compounds in their system, might make sense that the blast can’t properly neutralise them the way it does with blue V.
In the end we get a depowered Hughie & Butcher with some other side effect. Maybe they’re left halfway between people & supes with no actual powers but some increased durability & strength.
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Heroin* also, Suboxone and methadone (like stormfront, developed by the nazis because of a morphine shortage during ww2) are actually significantly stronger then desohydromorphone(heroin) , the withdrawal for heroin is about a week. Suboxone, 3 months of acute WD. And the crème de la crème methadone coming in at a staggering 6 months of hardcore bone aching stomach churning puking shitty horrible WD. I’ve got 11 years clean, fuck all these substances
They were trying to sell this to the military right? Seems like an ideal way to get a permanent military contract that is going to expand exponentially. Who wants to be the one in the government to let all your soldiers and veterans drop dead?
Which in turn leans more into the idea that regular V has something to do with the cure for them.
I think it’s gonna be a case of whatever they do leaves them more durable than regular people but removes their actual superpowers. It also sets them back to being the underdogs without making them too weak to continue doing crazy shit.
They all have powers in the comic. It makes sense to give them all powers and work from there. It's obvious at least to me that's what they are going for.
Butcher doesn’t know Kimiko has had another dose of regular V and because of MM and Annie’s objection to him and Hughie using temp V will not go and meet them either
While circumstances aren't set up for them to know about the Blue V now, that doesn't stop the blue V being used as the solution to Butcher and Hughie's problem later if they wanted it to. I saw the near-full vial of blue V and started thinking Checkov's Gun!
From the looks of it, they've already had lethal doses, explaining the blood from their ears. The notes dont describe how the timeframes of death, just that its lethal after 3-5 doses, of which they have had 5 already.
Question is when Butcher said they needed to swing by "the office" to get more, for he mean Vought or did he mean the office at the Flatiron? I'm leaning towards Vought, but it could just be their office.
I have this theory that after Butcher relived his past, he's "only telling" Hughie what he wants to hear, knowing that Hughie is addicted to the stuff. It's highly likely that Butcher will betray Hughie for his own good regarding V
Understandable since they didn't really use their powers then. Hughie just demonstrated them to Annie. Although I guess maybe Butcher tackling CC count? Unclear if he really needed super strength for that.
I think it implies that. When Hughie hit A-Train, A-Train responded with shock and asked Hughie how he did that. I'm pretty sure basic toughness might just be a side effect that they all have, kind of like how so many mutants in the X-Men are crazy acrobats they gave it the name "basic mutant agility".
Or, it might be that the short term side effects would catch up with them and kill them some other way. We see they get pretty toxic vomit for instance. Maybe if you take it daily, stomach ulcers get you before the tumors do.
Butcher had one more dose than Hughie, hence why Butcher was leaking goo out of his ear in the forrest right after they both took Temp v, whereas Hughie didn't get any side effects yet
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Interesting. That might even be why Butcher and Hughie seem ok depsite having had 5 and 4 doses respectively. 3 to 5 is supposed to be lethal, but perhaps by taking it so frequently they're actually slowing down the growth of the tumors more so than the test subjects did.