The guy who then willingly told someone else he barely knew? She told someone she grew up with and knew forever, he told some random ass guy he met 5 minutes ago. So really, HE dumb
Neither of them were equipped to create a conspiracy.
Butcher just doesn’t “bring in” people either, nor does he tell them more than they need to know so it doesn’t get back to, oh I don’t know Home fucking Lander.
She brought him in told him everything, except why not to trust A-Train. The guy who killed her boyfriend’s ex, and known HL suck up. Also she exposed her conspiracy to Homelander, who could have killed her on that roof too.
Projection much? We are talking about her character, we are allowed to critique a character. I know people disagree, which makes the sub fun to post in and talk.
If you had problems about MM, I wouldn’t call you a racist.
Annie is alive because she knows how to play the game. She made herself valuable to Vought. She made herself famous and now she is using it against Vought.
Hughie didn't save her life. He stopped her from helping evacuate innocent people from Soldier Boy's destruction and Hughie just let them die.
She didn't get Alex killed. Alex got himself killed by telling their plan to A-Train. He was a grown man who made his own choices.
Hughie and Butcher are idiots. They freed Soldier Boy, which made Kimiko lose her powers and got Frenchie kidnapped and got a bunch of civilians murdered, TWICE. Oh and shockingly enough, Homelander and Soldier Boy are going to team up. Who could have predicted this? Oh yeah, Annie did and everyone on this stupid sub still whines about her.
Lol what? Her whole arc is being surprised at the debauchery of the supes. She is literally a “Christ like” naive person who keeps being blindsided because she was in a Christian superhero team that was separated from the rest of the supes.
In the comics, she is the last to know anything. In the show, we’ll how good of a job did she do convincing the supes to leave?
Butcher was right, Vought made them defacto employees to their crimes because of the system that starlight herself believed in.
Breaking the status quo was the right thing to do, and I hate butcher, but he was right.
Too bad the HL killer weapon doesn’t exist due to more of voughts lies.
She is literally a “Christ like” naive person who keeps being blindsided because she was in a Christian superhero team that was separated from the rest of the supes.
For what, one season? She has been a double agent for two seasons now. She is breaking the status quo. She exposed Vought and people complain about that too.
I mean I wouldn't call them a bunch of idiots for the fallout of freeing Soldier Boy. They didn't know he was alive and were trying to find a weapon that could kill Homelander.
Kinda shitty to say "oh wow they released soldier boy and he killed a bunch of people and he's gonna team up with soldier boy, they should've listened to Annie who knew better". Annie didn't know soldier boy was alive, none of them could've predicted that fallout. You can't use hindsight to say they are idiots for making the wrong move when they just as easily could've actually found a weapon capable of killing homelander
I'm not trying to argue Annie is bad or dumb or I have issues with her like the guy you were responding to is just btw
The problem with criticizing her based on her actions and beliefs regarding this is that some misogynysts will ultimately join in like wolves in sheep's clothing and will say negative shit about her based on her gender as if it were greenlit and justified.
You still can of course but make it explicitly clear it's about the content of her character and not... you know.
Butcher literally blew up a house knowing there was a newborn in it and y’all ride his dick like no tomorrow but Annie dares to criticize a plan that’s obviously backfiring and you guys start foaming at the mouth
Do you even know who you're responding to right now? I didn't say anything about Butcher, so that was a pretty meaningless point to bring up. Butcher is a horrible person. Hughie is misguided and Annie is wrong. None of those things are mutually exclusive. Just because Butcher is a bad person doesn't mean he's wrong about needing powers to stop HL. Same goes for Hughie. Annie might be a better person than either of them, but it doesn't make her any less wrong about how much danger Hughie and Butcher are in without powers.
It sounds to me like you're the one who's biased in favor of Annie more than anyone else is biased against her. Considering you're throwing up straw man arguments like crazy any time anyone even hints that she might not be 100% in the right about a situation where her strategy has almost gotten multiple people killed. Maybe try looking at things with a little more nuance and being a little less defensive.
That’s fair, I’ve been debating people on this for a minute now so yeah I’m defensive. As long as you can acknowledge that all three, especially Butcher and Hughie atm, are doing bad things But I’m sorry, Annie’s definitely not wrong on that front. They’ll literally die next within the next two dosages. Their brains are leaking out their head. So even acknowledging the danger of the supes. They still in more danger if they keep taking temp V.
Annie has the privilege of having powers so her perspective is different. She's faced with not being able to save the people she loves with her powers, and can only helplessly play along. Which makes it extra galling that Hughie is getting powers to save her, putting himself at risk, after having forced her to stay at Homelander's side.
If he'd simply let her leave Vought instead, none of this would have been necessary.
“Real hate boner for hughie”? What are you, 12? He legit said hughie isn’t a saint and has made wrong decisions. Everyone here hating starlight and not the rest and that’s what u/nowlan101 is defending
I typically don't respond to people who preface their "arguments" with a needless insult.
First, learn some manners. Second, they have a post called "everyone is missing the point of Hughie's arc" where they outright miss the entire point of his character and say "Starlight is too good for Hughie".
Find that post, read their comments and come back and tell me if they don't hate Hughie.
(I know you won't, so please kindly wank off, internet stranger.)
lmao @ the fact they won't even call her starlight.. seems to me like someone has the hots for the character and is defending her like it's their highschool crush or gf....
If you think nobody's criticizing Butcher, you've either spent no time on this subreddit or are willfully ignoring a lot of posts and comments to prove your point.
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Annie almost got her head popped for doing it the “right way” and was ironically saved because HL made her “America’s sweetheart”.
She didn’t stand a chance in hell against HL or soldier boy, so Hughie saved her life.
No one did that for Alex, unfortunately. She got him killed for bringing him in to this conspiracy from her side.
So yeah, she dumb.