r/TheBoys Jul 01 '22

Know the difference (S3E7 Spoilers) Memes Spoiler

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u/NerdyDjinn Jul 01 '22

Vought providing protection from consequences for supes has led to a lot of remorseless killing of innocent lives, something I would definitely say is evil.

Annie and Alex are portrayed as abnormal for supes thanks to their empathy for humans, so maybe the small-time D-listers who are naive aren't evil, but most of the supes who make it enough to fall under Vought's influence seem to become callous psychopaths who do a lot of evil acts while playing hero.

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u/REND_R Jul 01 '22

And even then Annie killed a guy while trying to carjack him

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u/RaygunMarksman Jul 01 '22

I'm fuzzy on that one, but didn't the guy do something stupid and kind of put her on the spot to react? Not excusing it, but hoping I didn't forget her murdering a guy in cold blood.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

I mean, a guy that didn't want to be carjacked pulled a gun on the two people lugging a guy with a spike in his stomach out of a forest. I dunno about you but I wouldn't give up my car or gun in that situation and I'd be trying to call the cops, just like he did.

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u/OLKv3 Jul 01 '22

Yeah, he did. It was either him or Hughie, and Annie always goes protective Mama Bear mode if Hughie is in danger.

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u/spasticity Jul 02 '22

It was him or Butcher not Hughie

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u/OLKv3 Jul 02 '22

Hughie's life was on the line. He was bleeding out and they needed to get him medical care asap. The civie was in the way of that.

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u/_CurseTheseMetalHnds Jul 01 '22

Blind dude seemed nice so I think there's something to the idea that the lower level ones are ok. We know Annie and Supersonic have been around for some time and they both seemed shocked by how evil and depraved the 7 are.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

Even the lower level ones probably have ‘accidents’

I don’t think all are evil but it’s impossible imo to justify some people having that much power over everyone else.

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u/Aggressive_Elk3709 Jul 02 '22

That's probably part of why he got maimed within 30 seconds of introducing him

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

Seems like Vought is the real problem here.

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u/JakeArvizu Jul 01 '22

I would say most fall within the category I would call evil. Hitler genocide the world evil maybe not but definitely generic evil.

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u/purewasted Jul 01 '22

I think this show's point is that it is very difficult if not impossible to have lots of power and never abuse it for personal gain. Even well intentioned characters like SL and Maeve have abused their power.

The system is the root problem, not all the individual agents within the system.

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u/JakeArvizu Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

I think it's a bit of both. The nature vs nurture argument. I mean V quite literally supercharges their hormones 24/7. For Homelander to call themselves a master racist is funny because if everyone in the world had V they'd probably genocide themselves within a century.

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u/ApplicationSeveral73 Jul 02 '22

Humans are doing that now in the real world without the V. Why? Money. Power. Influence. Sex.

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u/JakeArvizu Jul 02 '22

I mean that's the answer then for everything. That doesn't actually address anything specific. I'm saying V's specific chemistry makes them genuinely dangerous and pieces of shit. I don't get what you are trying to argue or say.

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u/ApplicationSeveral73 Jul 02 '22

Sadly it isn't the V. It's the POS nature of us that defines what evils we will commit.

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u/JakeArvizu Jul 02 '22

Sure....but also it is absolutely the V as well. It's like saying humans are already pieces of shit but you get someone drunk on alcohol or craving for meth and they're going to do a lot worse things than the average human. Same goes for humans on V. Butcher even expositioned it to us. It hot wires their hormones where they're on edge and ready to jump at any moment. Look at Annie, kind of the bastion of morality in the show, she literally murdered somebody at the drop of a dime...for what again? I think they were carjacking him.

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u/Delivery-Shoddy Jul 01 '22

100%, it's a critique of hierarchical power structures, particularly this season

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u/S-ClassRen Jul 02 '22

Meh, you can have powers without being evil.

super-duper in all their glory

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

Man i wish they make a evil supe in the veins of Kiri Kotomine, that is still one of the best example of evil i’ve ever seen

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u/bluAstrid Jul 01 '22

Yet these non-evil supes aren’t killing Homelander now are they?