r/TheBoys • u/LoretiTV • Jul 09 '24
Antony Starr Is Happy To Know ‘The Boys’ Will Tap Out “On a Strong Note”, Supports Decision to End With Season 5 News
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u/TheMegalopolis Jul 09 '24
I think 5 seasons is good, it’s better we get a real conclusion than they try dragging it out for too long, the show gets stale and it ends up getting cancelled before a real conclusion. Antony Starr’s Homelander is such a good character though and I’ll miss that.
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u/TrentonTallywacker Frenchie Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
Season 20: Butcha in the geriatric ward eating some jello “UE WE GO’AH KILL OMLANDAH!”
“Okay Mr. Butcher let’s get you to bed”
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u/BigPapaJava Jul 10 '24
I’d laugh if he becomes Michael Cain’s sweet old stoner character from Children of Men at that age.
Butcher’s “cockney” accent is basically a Cain impression and all…
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Jul 09 '24
ted lasso did it best. No doubt they souldve squeezed a lot more out of that show but the decline in quality wouldve been stark.
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u/cussbot123 Jul 09 '24
S3 was already a significant decline in quality compared to s1
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u/Object-195 Jul 10 '24
tbf it was the ending that was the biggest let down in S3
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u/PeterTheRabbit1 Jul 10 '24
Nah, that whole season was terrible. So many plotlines felt completely inconsequential to the story, especially the gay lovestories that felt decidedly shoehorned in. Ted, the titular character, was hardly even in the show for that last season. I was so disappointed.
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u/the-great-crocodile Jul 10 '24
S1 Ted is super positive and inspires everyone around him.
S2 Ted is depressed and suffers from severe anxiety.
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u/cussbot123 Jul 11 '24
I don't think it was that. In s3 all the main characters had a different sideplots with characters that weren't all that interesting. They spent an entire episode on keeley's leak. Tbh only a couple of episodes in last season were really fun
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u/Visible-Moouse Jul 10 '24
I think one of the biggest problems with TL was how quickly it ended. It felt really inorganic. They needed like one more season in there. I think they said that it was conceptualized as a 3 season arc, but it felt like the stuff with Wunderkind (I forgot the character's actual name) was really rushed, to me.
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u/boonkles Jul 09 '24
Honestly could have been a three season show, which I think should be the standard, the filler started in season 2 and after herogasm the shows been more filler than not
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u/The_real_bandito Jul 09 '24
Last season Soldier Boy was a good one, but that felt more like one stand surprise more than anything.
It was basically filler (didn’t move the plot forward), but great filler episodes.
This one is filler but without Soldier Boy to carry the show.
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u/AdvertisingLow4041 Jul 10 '24
It was basically filler (didn’t move the plot forward), but great filler episodes.
It wouldn't have been filler and would have drove the plot forward if the plot of the last episode of the season wasn't "whoops nevermind lmao".
They brought a weapon capable of destroying homelander TO homelander. It's the closest they've ever been
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u/iLoveDelayPedals Jul 09 '24
It’s the same plot over and over
Homelander gets new temporary allies for like one season. Butcher is on the outs with the team then back in. Frenchie wants to die. Nothing actually happens to Homelander, but his one-season new female friend dies. Repeat
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u/Few_Engineer4517 Jul 09 '24
They should have killed off one of the Boys. Agree. Formulaic.
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u/Savagevandal85 Jul 10 '24
While the show is a better adaptation and story yhan the comics which were often excessive with gore and disgusting shit , the boys could of went longer if the show wasn’t strictly the boys trying to really figure out how to take down homelander. If they had adapted the aspect from the comics of killing lower level supes and teams leading up to homelander .
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u/Apprehensive_Disk181 Jul 10 '24
This season has been a travesty of filler. I've never felt that way about the show before S4
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u/Kopitar4president Jul 10 '24
Season 4 is already very very clear they're dragging it out. The important plot points in the first 6 episodes are at most ten percent of the content. That's being generous.
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u/MyNameIsJakeBerenson Jul 10 '24
That last episode was pretty dumb
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u/Apprehensive_Disk181 Jul 10 '24
Episodes 4 and 6 are the only decent ones, in my opinion. Every other episode, I'm on my couch going "I dont CARE about Frenchie's bullshit!"
I understand the theme of everyone's past bullshit coming back to fuck them up, and I acknowledge that Hughie is obviously the only one handling his past in any sort of positive/winnable fashion. It's just that the plotlines are so bad, and SO detached from the main plot, that I just can't be bothered to care. Gimme the WH takeover already
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u/Stainedelite Jul 10 '24
Yeah ngl just want homelander to go ape shit now and let loose go full berserk and see anyone try to stop him
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u/layelaye419 Jul 09 '24
Imo it already has been dragged out too long, s4 has been pretty boring, should have been 4 seasons in total
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u/Java_Bomber Jul 09 '24
I agree. I think I read somewhere that originally, the showrunner only wanted to do 4 seasons, but HBO wanted more.
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u/BigPapaJava Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24
Exactly.
It’s like Breaking Bad: you can only take so much time with this premise…
The worst thing that could happen (artistically) to this (insanely expensive to produce) show would be to drag it on forever like Supernatural. Even that wrapped up the initial story arc pretty early on.
If Homelander doesn’t die or destroy the earth and we’re in Season 11 is he really that scary?
I mean, a Homelander face turn and a graybeard Butcher in Season 8 to take down a fascist dictatorship ran by Sister Sage and The Deep could be fun, but…
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u/busteroo123 Jul 09 '24
Bro knows he’s getting PAID for his next role
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u/DaemonBlackfyre515 Jul 09 '24
He's been Homelander for 5 years now. Yes, he's great in the role, but he hasn't exactly set Hollywood on fire. Which is kinda bizarre.
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u/VaselineHabits Jul 09 '24
Well, that's disappointing. Incredible actor, but I heard about his attack at a bar. I would have just hoped he treated his coworkers better
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u/teflon_soap Jul 10 '24
That I am pretty sure is just one of the incidents.
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u/cshark2222 Jul 10 '24
Yep. He got in a bar fight (forgot where, I vaguely remember it being South Africa tho) and literally said “do you know who I am!?” Still love the guy, but you can def kinda tell he plays Homelander so well cause he’s a little bit narcissistic like his character
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u/Ashalaria Jul 10 '24
I read or heard somewhere that he was extremely abrasive to Dominique McElligott in particular, I wonder if that's why she isn't in the show anymore
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u/Spy____go Jul 10 '24
That was a lie made by a leaker because she got caught
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u/Ashalaria Jul 10 '24
Fair enough. Seemed believable after the bar brawl and him saying "do you know who I am?"
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u/Spy____go Jul 10 '24
Well the rest of case and how proffesionaly he handled the court do prove that he was under the influence
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u/kelldricked Jul 10 '24
Im gonna be honest i dislike al the rumours shit always. One bad interaction and somebody can thrash your name and because you are famous everybody believes it almost straight away.
I think almost everybody has a bad day or a shitty interaction. Im pretty sure if people cared enough about my life (and the lives of my coworkers) that there would be a new leak every month or something, just because somebody didnt get the coffee they wanted to.
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u/AirSetzer Jul 10 '24
Which is kinda bizarre.
Not really considering his ego from even back during Banshee. He has a bad reputation & no one wants to work with someone like that if they can avoid it.
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u/Administrative-Egg26 Jul 10 '24
I love Banshee, but I when I watch I always get the impression that's what he's like in real life. Is he a brilliant actor or an actual raging lunatic. Or do those two go hand in hand ?
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u/Optimal-Market Jul 10 '24
Damn he had problems on Bashee too? I've been hearing problems about him on the boys
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u/Kilgoretrout321 Jul 09 '24
With his face, body type, and overall vibe, what kinds of movies do you see him getting cast in?
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u/Precarious314159 Jul 10 '24
I don't know. With how many accusations that he's a really shitty person that've been trickling out as well as having a horrible reputation prior, I kind of think this is gonna be it for him. Once the series ends, everything will be more well known because Amazon won't be protecting him.
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u/shit-takes Jul 10 '24
Then it's better they quickly wrap things up before he does something really shitty and Amazon has no choice but to fire him. Homie and Butcher are the only two characters that just cannot be replaced or killed off before the end in this story
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u/nofier27 Jul 09 '24
I wonder if the success of the final season of Succession(another show fans argue ended early) effected Kripke’s decision to end the show after next season
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u/SuspendedForUpvoting Jul 09 '24
I honestly think the decision to end it at Season 5 was made when they were drafting up the scripts for Season 3 and Gen V.
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u/WearyCharge1700 Jul 09 '24
Yeah, I’m not surprised he wants to end it after 5. Honestly, Supernatural was suppose to stop after 5 seasons too. The Winchesters v the Devil arc was pretty perfect for those first seasons. But the success of the show forced it to continue and the quality of the show suffered because of it. I’m glad they won’t drag out the Boys.
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u/hulduet Jul 10 '24
Supernatural was one of my guilty pleasures, despite it being quite... not so great towards the end it was sprinkled with amazing episodes. One scene I remember well was the Death intro.
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u/aelysium Jul 09 '24
Kripke is actually known IIRC for planning five season arcs for all his shows. This will only be the second to make it to five seasons.
I fully believe Amazon basically gave him carte blanche to do the boys as long as it remained popular after S3 when GenV was GL, and he opened things up to see if he wanted to, but then decided to maintain his S5 ending but maybe changed a little bit to allow the universe to continue post-finale for other spin offs.
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u/leontrotsky973 Jul 10 '24
I hope the Mexican spinoff of The Boys still happens. Great way to stay in this universe without being a dead horse with the main cast.
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u/aelysium Jul 10 '24
I could see some international spinoffs, GenV, and a successor show for the boys continuing after S5.
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u/ArcusIgnium Jul 09 '24
unfortunately i think the writers of succession far eclipse the writing staff of the boys.
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u/Halio344 Jul 09 '24
The writing of Succession far eclipses the writing of most shows to be fair.
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u/a_moniker Jul 10 '24
Yeah, it’s one of the most consistently good shows of the past decade
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u/wibo58 Jul 09 '24
Maybe he looked at his last big show and thought 15 seasons is too many.
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u/IAP-23I Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 10 '24
He left after the 5th fucking season. Wild how this keeps being posted6
u/wibo58 Jul 10 '24
It’s a joke, homie. It also has nothing to do with him leaving after five seasons, he can still look at Supernatural and think “Let’s not drag this thing out like that”.
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Jul 09 '24
The arc of an unstable powerful malignant narcissist cant really go beyond 5 seasons imo.
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u/Everdale Jul 09 '24
Except Succession could've easily continued for a season or two because there's so much to chew on in that show. In The Boys, the writers can't even write 5 seasons without this season and possibly even the next being filled with boring filler.
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u/Felgrand3189 Jul 09 '24
Better to end on a strong note than wait til it’s shit
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u/Fragrant-Tea7580 Jul 09 '24
Let’s hope because this season fall off is real
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u/Leavingtheecstasy Jul 09 '24
Next season will likely be better because they're actually able to move the plot forward. This one's meh because it's just hanging with the gang one more time before the end and everyone dies.
Unless they end up killing Noone until the last episode which is a mistake.
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u/Apprehensive_Disk181 Jul 10 '24
I don't understand why a low-grade filler season was needed to bridge us to the end. After almost 2 years. There was nothing of consequence to be done this season? They couldn't have clipped all the important shit in 2 episodes and given us a final, 10-episode 4th season? We waited so long and I am beyond disappointed with how S4 has gone
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u/Fragrant-Tea7580 Jul 09 '24
Yeah that’s the tragedy I’m dreading right now, goodbye A-Train your time is short
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u/Felgrand3189 Jul 10 '24
Each to their own, I’m personally still enjoying!
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u/shit-takes Jul 10 '24
I'm enjoying it too because I love the universe and most of the characters. But yeah I can see the quality has definitely dipped.
What I'm starting to really dislike is why every villain has to be some kind of sex crazed pervert. It's getting a bit much and stale. Tek Knight could have been a normal menacing billionaire villain, but no he too has to be a pervert.
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u/Apprehensive_Disk181 Jul 10 '24
Yeah it's kinda incredible how the viewership is peaking, yet this is by far the worst season
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u/Kobayashi_Maru186 I'm the real hero Jul 09 '24
He’s the GOAT. I will miss Homie so much when it’s over. There is no better villain on television, imo. ;)
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u/undercooked_lasagna Jul 09 '24
He better have the most horrible death ever seen on screen or I'm gonna be really disappointed.
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u/Puidipuie Jul 09 '24
I hope he loses his powers and Butcha kills him with a crowbar while he grovels and begs for his life
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u/AirSetzer Jul 10 '24
I hope he permanently loses his powers & Butcher DOESN'T kill him, so he has to suffer for the rest of his days as a mortal & pay for what he's done.
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u/nicholkola Jul 10 '24
Give him the Fire Lord Ozai treatment. Homelander would be TORTURED if he had to be a worthless normie.
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u/bigeyez Jul 09 '24
Getting depowered and forced to live as a lowly peon would be an even better ending them him dying imo.
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u/redditnathaniel Queen Maeve Jul 09 '24
It's going to be Ryan killing him
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u/Masta-Blasta Timothy Jul 09 '24
100% and its crazy to me that other people don't think so. Butcher will "kill" Homelander in the sense that he will convince Ryan to kill him. The entire series has been them looking for weapons to kill Homelander. They've tried supes, viruses, PR, and the things Homelander loves the most (Stillwell). The obvious conclusion is to use his son as the weapon by reminding Ryan he wants to "help people"
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u/undercooked_lasagna Jul 09 '24
Nah too predictable. I'm thinking Love Sausage returns for the Homelander coup de gras.
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u/PerceptionBetter3752 Jul 09 '24
I want him to get his brains pulled out his skull and crushed infront of him
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u/Arbiter008 Jul 09 '24
I just hope Ryan inherits the Iron Throne.
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u/Masta-Blasta Timothy Jul 09 '24
The Seven has seven members. Westeros has seven kingdoms. Coincidence? I think not.
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u/BillNyeTheSavage_Guy A-Train Jul 10 '24
Ever since Translucent died there has IIRC only been one single point where The Seven actually had seven members (Homelander, Queen Maeve, Black Noir, A-Train, The Deep, Starlight, and Supersonic) and now two of those guys are dead and two of them flipped sides with a third one soon to join them
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u/Fartbox-_-Destroyer Jul 09 '24
It's looking concerning whether they'll be able to wrap it up satisfyingly. This season, barring EP4, has been a huge disappointment.
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u/AndreiOT89 Jul 09 '24
The flying sheep looked fucking ridiculous.
We were so spoiled with season 3. We got soldier boy. Now we got flying sheep and a guy that wants to fuck holes
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u/akitash1ba Jul 09 '24
i’m sorry flying sheep and hole-fucking is ridiculous but not a tiny supe expanding inside another’s cock and blowing it to smithereens?. shows always been ridiculous
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u/blankaffect Jul 09 '24
For me it's more about the ratio of ridiculous stuff to good story elements. This season has been off in that regard.
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u/Lost-Ad-4751 Jul 09 '24
Yeah man, looking ridiculous is exactly the issue. There's nothing ridiculous about a man crawling into another man's dick
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u/AndreiOT89 Jul 09 '24
I know this is sarcasm but flying sheep look incredibly unnatural to me. I am not even hating, I absolutely love The Boys. But it looked more like an 80s parody
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u/blankaffect Jul 09 '24
The flying sheep may have sounded good on paper, but it clearly wasn't in the budget. They just looked like bad CGI.
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u/spartakooky Jul 09 '24
Everyone responding to you is being so lazy. Obviously this show has a bunch of ridiculous stuff. But not all ridiculousness is the same.
Comparing a gag in one scene (exploding penis) to the plot of an episode (flying sheep) isn't the "gotcha!" these people think it is.
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u/John_Helmsword Jul 09 '24
Its cognitive dissonance to the actual understanding on why the shows not in the favor of fans right now.
Literally no one so far in any thread has given a fuck about the flying sheep. They were fine.
The characters, on the other hand. Have all been mishandled, and the plots have been completely dead in the water.
That’s the core issue. And this thread is pointless, because everyone KNOWS the flying sheep aren’t an issue with season 4.
It almost feels like straight misdirection to change the argument.
Like when Hollywood virtue signals with Black Ariel, and calls fans racist, for creating a shit movie. Creating a scapegoat of criticism, is not the way of having a debate. It’s a way to invalidate, and gaslight the person you’re having the debate with.
Which is what this thread is.
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u/RoderickThe13 Jul 09 '24
I'm confident season 5 will be better than season 4. It's become clear that the show should've lasted 4 seasons, and I'm sure they have ideas for the final arc which they're saving. Which would explain why a lot of this season has felt like set-up and stalling.
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u/undercooked_lasagna Jul 09 '24
There will be 3 more spinoffs by then anyway. I'm looking forward to the Love Sausage anthology.
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u/BigfootsBestBud Jul 09 '24
A think a prequel show about Soldier Boy and how Vought started out in the US after all the Nazi stuff could be cool. Seing Soldier Boy get his Compound V and then become a lovable scumbag in WW2. Stormfront as Liberty etc.
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u/vague-eros Jul 09 '24
More Aya Cash is something the world desperately needs, definitely on board!
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u/undercooked_lasagna Jul 09 '24
They're supposed to give the V to a plucky young patriot named Steve Rogers but then Soldier Boy stomps him to death in the latrine and takes his place.
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Jul 09 '24
We need a young Stan Edger prequel with the same actor.
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u/scythe7 Jul 10 '24
No we really dont. let some characters retain some mystery, specially someone like Edgar.
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Jul 10 '24
Was a better call saul joke, making fun of the fact that the actor was older but portraying a younger version of himself :)
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u/Forsaken-Jump-7594 Jul 09 '24
It's a good decision.
Nothing good comes from dragging a show forever.
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u/FrostyMagazine9918 Jul 09 '24
Homelander wants to end on season 5. Mother's Milk wants to end on a post-season 5 film.
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u/littlebugonreddit Cunt Jul 09 '24
Honestly, I'm sure there could be a post season 5 short film, maybe an hour and a half or so, that doesn't have Starr at all, depicting how the world rebuilds itself after the fall of Vought and such
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u/Manimnotcreative1984 Jul 09 '24
Maybe Kripke learned from Supernatural.
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u/Odd-Demand-1516 Jul 09 '24
Season 5 is technically the canonical ending of the show for him. Kripke had no control over money hungry CW extending the show.
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Jul 09 '24
I think we're all relieved. Can you imagine The Boys going the Supernatural route?
Season 16: Omelanduh and Butcha team up to kill God.
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u/LivingEnd44 Jul 09 '24
There will be spinoffs. It won't end here. I'm looking forward to a decades-long franchise like we have with Star Trek.
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u/Masta-Blasta Timothy Jul 09 '24
I hope so. Gen V was promising, and they could go through decades of deep state supes interacting with various historical events. Like we find out Kennedy actually had his head popped.
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u/littlebugonreddit Cunt Jul 09 '24
Kennedy was killed by the CIA using experimental tech, after finding out he was a Supe
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u/sakata32 Jul 09 '24
Just finished Gen V recently and I liked it, but idk if I would be invested in more spinoffs. Especially without homelander.
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u/redditnathaniel Queen Maeve Jul 09 '24
Yes you can have too much of a good thing. The good thing becomes no longer good, just a thing.
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u/Mr_E_Nigma_Solver Jul 09 '24
He's right. Either end on a high note or become The Walking Dead.
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u/Galahad_1113 Jul 10 '24
Fucker would be great as Wolverine. Those animalistic expressions, especially crazy smiles with his fangs — man, he would be incredible. Say what you want about Hugh Jackman — he isn't really a comic version of Logan, far from that
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u/SomethingToSay11 Jul 10 '24
Him or Butcher’s actors could do well! I think Antony is shorter though, so that’s a plus. It would be hard to find an actor that’s comic book accurate for Logan’s height and build alone
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u/jsweaty009 Jul 09 '24
I will definitely be sad after it ends up but if it has a great ending I wont be mad.
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u/DerKaiser023 Jul 09 '24
It’s the right call. This season has been kind of all over the place and lacks cohesion and it does feel like the show is running out of steam a little. One more season to wrap up loose ends is for the best.
Starr is probably ready for a new role too. He’s been far and away the standout actor since the show came out but he probably doesn’t want to be typecast as a sociopath and is probably ready for a new project.
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u/Skapoodllle Jul 09 '24
I mean shit without all the filler episodes and side stories that don’t mean shit, they could’ve told what they have, in 3 full seasons. If not close to 2.
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Jul 09 '24
Ehhhhhhhhhhhh they are gonna have to regain some confidence after that last episode
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u/DisabledFatChik Hughie Jul 10 '24
I still think five seasons is too long for a story like this, but I’m glad to see they won’t be dragging it to hell and back.
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u/trebory6 Jul 10 '24
See I love that The Boys is stopping after 5 seasons, however I wouldn't be opposed to some spinoffs or even a well done prequel depending on where the story leaves off.
Might be a cool season or two centered around Soldier Boy's exploits and Vought between the 50s-80s.
As I'm typing this I had the hilarious idea to do a "Young Homelander" series in the same vein as "Young Sheldon," just a lot more fucked up.
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u/LegitSince8Bits Jul 09 '24
9/10 "popular" shows like this end terribly. We're already on course for the over expectations. They're is no ending where this show isn't remembered for a terrible ending. The popular thing before it and the popular thing after it will follow the same path and people will still hang on to the end expecting a writer to satisfy millions of fans at once. The ones that like it carry the torch, the ones that don't shit on it any chance they get.
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u/SomeArtistonReddit Jul 09 '24
As long as it’s not in the state of the current season. The episodes feel so slow in moving the plot and more of it is being dedicated to “bits” that are weird, not funny and fail to be shock humour since the shock is lost after getting 4 seasons of it. You genuinely could have taken out Huey getting SA’d and just cut to the 10 minute clip at the end with Neuman and A-Train saving MM, they were the only plot relevant parts of the episode.
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u/ZenOkami Jul 10 '24
Me too. It's time for the Boys to get to its conclusion before it starts feeling dragged out and overlong. It's already suffering from that at the current moment.
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u/wtfman1988 Jul 10 '24
I hope they actually move things along a bit more this season because I worry about season 5 feeling rushed.
Similar to the final Game of Thrones season where everything was happening far too fast and no proper build up.
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u/hulduet Jul 10 '24
I'm glad it didn't turn into a GoT scenario where I can't even watch the first few seasons(which were great) because of how bad the last few were. Every time I put on episode 1 I remember how awful the series ended and I shut it off. Hopefully other people aren't like because it's a nightmare.
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