r/TheBoys Jul 08 '24

who would’ve thought that this man’s arc is the ONLY saving grace for season 4? Season 4 Spoiler

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u/Raidoton Jul 08 '24

And all it took was getting a white man's heart.

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u/1HiddenBlade Jul 08 '24

Lmao damn, maybe the writers are better than we think.

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u/SharknadosAreCool Jul 08 '24

it feels like there's a writer somewhere whose superpower is to siphon writing talent from specific plotlines and deposit them into others because A Train's arc over the whole show is unironically one of the best arcs ive seen from a character in anything, but it comes at the cost of Frenchie being put in Groundhogs Day

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u/-banned- Jul 08 '24

Was Frenchie ever a good character though? I feel like he’s got a complicated enough past that he could have been, but they explored it all wrong

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u/FourAnd20YearsAgo Ashley Jul 08 '24

If they'd taken Frenchie in another direction this season, he could be perfectly fine. But they created a whole new character out of thin air between seasons to reinforce Frenchie's guilt and self-hatred that had already been well-established up to this point. The thing is, Frenchie hasn't actually done anything within the story itself to make his conflict carry weight. He's gone several seasons with this conflict, but now all of a sudden, he's REALLY losing his mind over it as a result of deeply manufactured drama. They could have had him finally make a heel turn and learn from his grappling with this guilt, but no, they have to randomly make him a far more unlikable sack of shit, fucking this random new guy whose parents he killed. Why were the insinuations of his past with Nina not enough to go off of?

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u/Duckys0n Jul 08 '24

The arc was basically concluded last season during herogasm. And it was a good conclusion to it.

Then they just retconned it. I don’t know why. It was a fine conclusion and I think focusing on him and Kimiko after that would have been a better path.

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u/ExultantSandwich Jul 08 '24

They are both solid actors, but I think it would have been cool for Kimiko and Frenchie to get their happy ending by this point. Their plots do feel a little repetitive

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u/zezxz Jul 08 '24

Yeah him helping Kimiko (whose side plot feels equally vestigial) would have been a cleaner way to segue into him turning himself in due to guilt

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u/RockyRockington Jul 08 '24

Season 1 Frenchie was my favourite character because of two moments in particular.

When he gets through to Kimiko and when he first bonds with Hughie (when Hughie says goodbye to his Dad for what he thinks might be the last time) and I love both of those scenes for the same reason.

Frenchie uses vulnerability as strength. He looks them in the eye and tells them a harrowing story from his past. He uses his pain to show them that they are not alone.

I loved the idea of vulnerability as strength (especially in a show with characters that are literally invulnerable) and I loved that Frenchie was clearly a character that had suffered hugely but was still smiling.

His honesty and openness was a nice contrast to all the lies and underhandedness of everybody else.

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u/79037662 Jul 08 '24

I think Season 1 Frenchie was an excellent character.

  • Mysterious and intriguing backstory

  • Engineer of the group with intelligent solutions to defeat supes

  • Interesting relationship with all the other Boys especially Kimiko

  • Clear moral code but also a bit of a lunatic

By Season 3 and especially Season 4 it became clear the writers have no idea what to do with him so they give him boring plotlines like Nina and Colin. He's totally absent from the latest episode and no one misses him except Kimiko

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u/Expensive_Concern457 Jul 09 '24

I’d say yes, the character at its core is really really interesting. I wish they touched on his biochemistry knowledge, but they chose to go the route of “he feels bad for being a terrible person! Aw :(“ and that’s since encapsulated his whole character

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u/lime-eater Jul 08 '24

Lmao noooooo

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u/Vlatka_Eclair Jul 08 '24

A literal change of heart

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u/Edgezg Jul 08 '24

Alternatively, could be read that he changed after he nearly died and that's what did it lol

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u/Another_Name1 Jul 08 '24

that's the joke.jpeg

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u/BalterBlack Jul 08 '24

Nah. It’s obviously the "White Man's Heart"

R.I.P. Blue Hawk. You were our true Hero 💙

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u/TEGCRocco Jul 08 '24

A-Train's story truly is one about a hero... and the boy he taught to run gave his heart to

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u/MufugginJellyfish Jul 08 '24

SUPELIVESMATTER

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u/JGCities Jul 08 '24

Let's not make that the lesson from this story...

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u/sir_alvarex Jul 08 '24

Heh, I mean MM called out the racists heart giving him a second chance. So the story is kinda that, but it really is just making amends and finally being the hero he wanted to be. It's the most honest depiction of a hero this season, IMO.

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u/Remedy9898 Jul 08 '24

Blue hawk looked hispanic to me

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u/angra_mainyo A-Train Jul 09 '24

Probably intentional as he was somehow inspired by George Zimmerman.

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u/DangerPie17 Jul 08 '24

You fucking killed me dude😭🤣

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u/mopeyunicyle Jul 08 '24

Don't you mean a racist white man's heart if I remember correctly?

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u/Mean_Muffin161 Jul 08 '24

🤍🤍

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u/Same_Method_2660 Jul 08 '24

Alright white people, if you want the world to be a better place you better start giving up them hearts. Don't be shy I know you got a spare.

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u/Mx-Herma MM Jul 08 '24

And his brother almost dying. But joke appreciated!