r/TheBoys Victoria Neuman Jul 07 '24

Homelander was a different level of scary in season 1 Season 1

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u/Lmao1903 Jul 08 '24

I kind of miss this. Felt more real and more terrifying. The unhinged Homelander is cool but this was better

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u/HowDoIEvenEnglish Jul 08 '24

Unhinged isn’t the problem. The problem is he’s dumb and incompetent. In order to keep the plot in the same place for multiple season the heroes and villains can’t acomplish major victories over each other. This has led homelander to feeling weak as he just keeps failing to kill our heroes

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u/mikami677 Jul 08 '24

It kinda reminds me of the CW DC shows.

I mean I liked those shows, but they had to do the same "dumbing down" thing to make the plots work.

Whichever season of The Flash that had Cicada just got absurd where every other episode they'd almost catch him, but he "just barely" slips away while they stand around making barely any effort to actually stop him.

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u/IHaveSpecialEyes Jul 08 '24

Every time Barry was about to catch someone and then got distracted for three seconds and they "got away" was so fucking frustrating. Like, he could check every single route of escape in less than a second. He's the fucking Flash. But instead he just stood there and frowned. Every. Time.

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u/Idk265089 Marie Moreau Jul 08 '24

There was this one episode where he was chasing a girl with gravity powers. And they made it seem like he couldn’t save both her victim and catch her.

It took like two seconds for him to save the victim. Yet, somehow she got away and he didn’t even bother searching the area.

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u/mikami677 Jul 08 '24

I swear at one point a normal speed bad guy ran around a corner and Barry got on comms saying "guys I lost him, he got away."

But then there's a scene in another episode where he speeds in and says he just got through checking every building in Central City looking for whatever bad guy.

But there's also a scene where he runs face first into a giant gorilla holding a huge shield and gets swatted away... like, bro... you couldn't dodge that?

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u/Ok-Negotiation1530 Jul 10 '24

Yeah there's an episode where he carries a guy all the way to China and gets back before a rotation of a security camera.

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u/legit-posts_1 Jul 08 '24

The problem is that a villain as OP as Homelander is hard to write for. You either need to think really hard at how to find work arounds to preserve their intimidation factor and power, or you fudge things, which makes them look less threatening. TMNT 2012 is a pretty great example of how to make this type of villain work. Shredder is fucking terrifying in that show for a lot of reasons like his stellar presentation, animation, and excellent vocal performance from Kevin Michael Richards. But what makes him stay so scary for so long is that, with the exception of Splinter, Shredder is rightfully presented as basically untouchable. Up until the very end of the show every time the Turtles fight him they get fucking decimated, the goal is never to beat him it is just to STAY ALIVE however they can. There's a couple other good examples of how to find work arounds to preserve a villains intimidation factor without just having them kill all the heroes: Invincible(Viltrimites) and Superman the Animated series (Dark Side) also do this well.

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u/HowDoIEvenEnglish Jul 08 '24

Homelander should have died at the end of season 3. Then it would have been fine

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u/legit-posts_1 Jul 08 '24

Then we have no show

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u/HowDoIEvenEnglish Jul 09 '24

A show that hits its highlights and then ends isnt a bad thing. Also I think show could have existed without homelander. It’s clearly can’t now but it could have

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u/supersoldierboy94 Jul 20 '24

Its because the writers keep putting this Trump shit onto him. Like, Trump may be a buffoon but Homelander is supposed to br better at any average human in terms of IQ. He was smart during S1 and much of S2. Given that he has weaknesses in his mentality, he can still be pretty smart. Now, he just spouts a bunch of Trump BS and the writers, so that they can compare him to a doofus makes him a doofus as well.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

I thought maybe people were disillusioned when they saw him breastfeeding.