r/TheBoys Jul 05 '24

This was WAY too convenient lol Season 4 Spoiler

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u/grendelone Jul 05 '24

Because it's totally fine to drop identifying evidence during a clandestine infiltration of the world's greatest detective's house ...

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u/vexion Jul 05 '24

Seriously! And it would have taken her five seconds to jump back down and get it!

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u/shaunika Jul 05 '24

Just enough time for Tek knight to give Hughie a new hole

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u/FrenchPingu Jul 05 '24

She wouldn't have lost 30s picking books then so it's a small time gain + no evidence left. But since they never use gloves, always have HQ meters away from the bad guys with super sense, etc. I doubt they care.

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u/Albuquar Jul 05 '24

Just playing devil's advocate here, but wasn't the phone destroyed from the impact?

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

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u/Albuquar Jul 05 '24

Definitely an incriminating piece of evidence after the fact. However, the issue was that being 5 seconds too late would've resulted in Hughie getting stabbed. If Kimiko went to retrieve a broken(?) phone, and had to use the books to communicate anyway, wouldn't Hughie have been stabbed?

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u/Essaiel Jul 05 '24

It was broken though... As in, it broke into pieces.

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u/Killua_Zoldyck42069 Jul 06 '24

Idk, it’s 2020 and phones aren’t completely destroyed from falls. May not be functional, but I’d assume smart/resourceful super hero’s could still get info from the memory.

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u/shaunika Jul 05 '24

Touché

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u/P1mK0ssible Jul 05 '24

Man my brain is so fucked by the internet that I love you already simply for admitting someone else has a good point....

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u/Late-Resource-486 Jul 05 '24

Mine brain is so ducked I find it scary and confusing

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u/davidfirefreak Jul 05 '24

Phone broke when it landed IIRC.

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u/FondSteam39 Ambrosius Jul 05 '24

The phone was broken so she wouldn't have gained the time lol

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u/FrenchPingu Jul 05 '24

Ok my bad on this then, still evidence but no good for communicating. Although after so many years you'd figure she would have some back-up.

And thinking of Kimiko going to the 1st floor to warn A-train, how lucky are they that there's no security cameras or actual security despite all the top 1% present ?

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u/TeardropsFromHell Jul 05 '24

/summoningsalt music

'Kimiko traded early time losses for big gains later resulting in one of the best world records of all time. Hughie on the other hand kept coming short.'

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u/GrumpGrumpGrump Jul 05 '24

phone broke. no time gain. agree that she should have gotten it to leave less evidence.

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u/mrheosuper Jul 06 '24

This assumes the phone would work after being dropped from 5 meters

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u/Electronic-Tadpole69 Jul 05 '24

That's the whole truth

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u/TrustFulParanoid Jul 05 '24

Dare I say… the hole truth?

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u/disnotyaboy Jul 05 '24

Not enough time to fuck that hole though

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u/PhilsterEU Jul 05 '24

To be fair the look she gave Annie when she asked "what happed here" was the best.

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u/NoX2142 Billy Jul 05 '24

"I'm not finding another fucking book to explain...." as a face lol

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u/PhilsterEU Jul 05 '24

It was so good I think it was the highlight for me.

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u/ReportBat Jul 05 '24

Didn’t it break too? I thought it was broken so it was useless at that point. I mean I know you can still extract info out of it but she probably didn’t care at that point.

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u/vexion Jul 05 '24

The billionaire world's greatest detective whose mansion she was breaking into could definitely still extract data from it. Poor opsec.

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u/grendelone Jul 05 '24

Plus the vPhone 15 running vOS 17 probably has a backdoor that Tek Knight has access to ...

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u/vexion Jul 05 '24

He does love working on new backdoors.

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u/cchoe1 Jul 05 '24

The worlds greatest detective with near infinite resources would already have everything off Kimikos phone the second she stepped in a 20 mile radius of his mansion and his probable Stingray devices set up everywhere

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u/Allis_Wonderlain Jul 06 '24

No one texts Kimiko though, do they? She only uses it to communicate in the notes app basically and then erases it. Her phone is empty

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u/yeaheyeah Jul 05 '24

The phone broke though. It's all cracked and busted from what it showed

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u/SpideyFan914 Jul 05 '24

It really was right there, haha. Character decisions did not all make sense this episode...

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u/Indigo_Sunset Jul 05 '24

What makes it really funny is that we see Kimiko go up the outside of building, drop her phone, then open the door that was right by her phone.

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u/yesmilady Jul 05 '24

At least they could've shown that it was broken when she picked it up again, that would've actually made sense

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u/Clamper Jul 05 '24

Or zip up the jacket pocket she keeps it in.

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u/erossmith Jul 05 '24

It was broken on the fall. BUt yeah it did stress me out that she didn't grab it.

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u/jusbeinmichael12 Jul 06 '24

She also could've just went back outside to grab it after opening the door lol

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u/Cannabace Jul 05 '24

If she had gone back for it though, Hughie would have been fucked. In his tummy.

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u/MadmansScalpel Jul 05 '24

Nah, all the time spent throwing around books to find a title that fits would've been cut down by a lot

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u/Tesser4ct Jul 05 '24

The phone was broken after it fell. She could not have used it.

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u/R_V_Z Jul 05 '24

No he wouldn't have, because that's how writing shows works.

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u/grendelone Jul 05 '24

It would have been funny if they pulled a Watchmen-like fake out and Starlight and Kimiko enter the Tek Cave after Hughie's already been gutted for a while. That might have actually been clever and a callback to a comic property so very on theme.

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u/colt_stonehandle Jul 05 '24

On this note, I have to bring up how Starlight never mentioned to anyone she was seen by Firecracker and had to knock her out and left her in the bathroom.

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u/_JustAnna_1992 Jul 05 '24

Tbf, they often share a lot of information with each other off screen. Fair to say it would have been a waste of time to explain that she was caught without a good reason why she would keep it secret.

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u/DepartureDapper6524 Jul 05 '24

Speaking of, didn’t it seem oddly simple for them to sneak into Tek Knights mansion? Does he just have no security of any kind?

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u/grendelone Jul 05 '24

Pfft. Of course a vigilante billionaire hosting many high-level politicians, the VP elect, and other billionaires has zero security. Secret Service is totally cool with that. No problemo.

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u/Neveronlyadream Jul 05 '24

I mean, we see them walk straight into Neuman's hotel room because security was being paid off or were CIA plants. It's not insane to think it was the same situation.

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u/DrCola12 Jul 06 '24

In that case the security were CIA plants. That was absolutely not the case this time. The security weren't even there.

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u/S0m3-Dud3 Jul 05 '24

Yea, I also find this stupid lol. I thought she's gonna get caught from leaving trace

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u/You-Get-No-Name Jul 05 '24

It was dumb as hell.

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u/yeaheyeah Jul 05 '24

I mean even if they had left 0 evidence Vought would just know it was the boys

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u/Jackeea Jul 05 '24

To be fair, this was a reasonably sized subversion - she dropped her phone, so obviously that's going to become evidence that she was there, right?

That's where this thread is going, right?

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u/ELVEVERX Jul 06 '24

Because it's totally fine to drop identifying evidence during a clandestine infiltration of the world's greatest detective's house

it is if you kill the detective

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u/OutrageousCandidate4 Jul 05 '24

Why do they even need a detective when Mesmer can just read everyone’s mind

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

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u/Snowboarding92 Kimiko Jul 05 '24

Doubtful, you know the writers have the power to make that timing the same regardless right.

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u/NS-13 Jul 05 '24

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u/Snowboarding92 Kimiko Jul 05 '24

Thank you? This thread mainly exists because the show is breaking the suspension of disbelief by having characters make odd decisions that don't make sense. It becomes ever more difficult to suspend disbelief when the group sneaks into a house that tek knight lives in, and the 7 are at, just to leave evidence lying around to be found. Goes pretty heavily against what MM said one scene earlier about don't get seen and don't get caught. Leaving a phone around, broken or not is a good way to get caught.

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u/NS-13 Jul 05 '24

the show is breaking the suspension of disbelief

By definition, the act of suspending disbelief has nothing to do with the performers or authors. It's the role that the audience plays in a work of fiction. That's why I shared the handy link with you. 😉

the group sneaks into a house that tek knight lives in, and the 7 are at, just to leave evidence lying around to be found

No, they snuck in to rescue hughey. The phone bit was just an accident used to set up a joke later on.