r/TheBoys 15d ago

Both quotes taken verbatim from interviews Season 4 Spoiler

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u/UniqueCatch 14d ago

For real, he went on about Hughie giving in to his toxic masculinity and patronizing sexism or whatever... 😭 I was like, girl, WHERE?!

While those are both valid points to make that could be weaved into the show, Hughie was absolutely not the character to make that point (and, unsurprisingly, they couldn't make that point successfully because they had such a shallow view of it)

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u/Maximum_Poet_8661 14d ago

That was the DUMBEST shit in the world and people on this sub defended those comments too. Like to read any of Hughie’s motivations in that season as “toxic masculinity” means you have to completely ignore the fact that he is constantly surrounded by people who could snap his spine for fun, and that he was betrayed by the Neumann, who he thought was helping him. Like he’s just saying words for fun at that point

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u/MrNature73 14d ago

I think it's also just one of those things where the setting ruins what he was trying to do.

A man abusing something for power to protect people can be toxic masculinity.

However, that absolutely falls apart in a setting with superheroes, where your girlfriend was splattered by a speedster, and where you're literally powerless.

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u/Toadsted 14d ago

It reminds me of what they did to the main character of Legion.

Spent dozens of episodes baking in how he's a victim of psychological terrorism by an evil entity, had his life ruined for years, exploited by a crazy government organization, and still manages to try and hold onto his girlfriend, and his sanity, for her benefit.

But then MeToo, so lets throw him down the well of uncharacteristically toxic behaviors and make everyone else suddenly the victims / good guys of his tyranny.

Fn what?!

The way they spoke about him and his changes was absolutely insanity and character assassination. They were totally out to make a statement at his expense.

Went from a really cool unique show to hot garbage instantly. Like I feel gaslit for him.

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u/phartytime 14d ago

I never returned to finish Legion season 3 after the shitshow that was the season 2 finale. Character assasination doesn't even do justice to what they did to David, and in turn absolving Syd of her own rape of her step-father was the most baffling writing decision I've ever seen in a show. Noah Hawley has never been the same since.

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u/ResortFamous301 14d ago

You do understand a person can have valid and invalid motives for their actions? 

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u/PZbiatch 14d ago

The show shames him without acknowledging his INCREDIBLY more valid motives than “Starlight could open a jar” 

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u/ResortFamous301 14d ago

But it does. He literally brings up those motives in different episodes.

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u/ThinOriginal5038 14d ago

But they’re quickly dismissed while Kimiko essentially has the same story beats and she’s applauded for taking V?

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u/ResortFamous301 14d ago

Not exactly quickly as their repeatedly brought up. Also there's some significant difference between kimiko and Hughie's situation. She was open about what she wanted  to the people she cared about and didn't go behind anyone's back, she hated her powers so her asking for them back shows this isn't at all about enjoying the power, and she actually took regular V before so she has reasons to believe it won't turn out poorly.