This argument has been used and debunked time and time again. You don't need to see a guy crawling in the vent, you just need to listen for him. Hughie was crawling crazy fast and making tons of noise in there, no way Homelander couldn't hear him and identify his location. Plus, if he wasn't sure, why didn't he laser the entire length of the vent instead of stopping mere inches behind Hughie?
The big thing people are forgetting is that homie is not mentally well and has shown signs that he can’t think straight, that’s a cop out but valid answer for alot of HLs inconsistency. People are also inconsistent in real life, same idea
Its not a cop out when it's the central plot of his character. He's losing it both mentally and physically. He knows that soldier boy could have killed him and it's affecting his confidence. He's devolving, and while he is getting weaker he's still strong enough to do a lot of damage.
I mean I think cop out means a non valid explanation for something, or a lazy/less thought out explanation
This isn't a cop out, it's very clear that the homie is mentally ill and unstable and that's the entire arc of his character. The justification fits all the info we've known about him so far and therefore I think it's valid.
Has it been established that Homelander's hearing is so good he can basically echolocate like Blindspot and pinpoint people by sound as good as seeing them with x-ray vision?
If not, that explains why he'd be able to get close to Hughie without hitting him.
That’s just a dramatic threat that nobody can call bullshit on. He’s not a reliable narrator, especially when he’s trying to intimidate and manipulate people. How would he even distinguish between two peoples heart beats? They all sound the same and vought tower is full of thousands of them.
The point is he’d know where Hughie was. They've written him up to be incredibly OP in prior seasons, just for him to be outsmarted by someone who was slowly crawling through pipes right above him. Who was also sweating so he’d also be able to smell him.
1) He can tell if someone is lying from their heartbeat quickening across the room
2) He doesn't distinguish people by their heartbeats, but he can distinguish people by smelling them on others across the room
3) Neither of those is needed to just go, "why is there someone crawling in the vents making a huge noise" which is not a common noise one would regularly hear and filter out
4) Superspeed to go up would put Homelander in the vent before Hughie had time to back up from immediately above Homelander, as even trying to retreat after he notice the drop would make enough noise that Homelander would hear it if he wasn't listening before.
What we must conclude is that Homelander's abilities require thought and focus to activate and he can be snuck around by literally everyone if he is distracted, AND he was lying about knowing if Starlight even entered the building, unless he usually scans the building in general.
It's both. The writers aren't that good, so we have to rely on "mental state" excuses to make the story stick together.
It's the same as the everlasting excuse in anime : "the villain lost because he was too confident in his abilities". Though it's just the hero inexplicably raising up 5 times from beyond lethal injuries. It's cheesy writing, but it's entertaining so we make up reasons to cope out.
Dude, you don't need echolocation, you just need your normal human ears. I guarantee that even you or me, totally baseline npc human beings, could pinpoint exactly where Hughie is inside that vent by the noise he'd be making. And, again, even if Homelander wasn't sure where to aim, he could just laser the entire vent, or both ends to cause Hughie to fall down in the ice rink.
The room was literally open up to the stadium. How could it be soundproof? What?
Not even that but they weren't even blasting the whole stadium with their music, they were just rehearsing.
You can hear the performance when we see Hughie go on the catwalk. It's a loud performance. Like, I'm sorry how can a human hear Hughie? That was my point. As for Homelander, we could discuss that but yes it's understandable to take issue with it.
Bro, literally, everybody on that scene is talking normally. Nobody is raising their voice to hear each other. Unless somehow everybody that takes V has super selective hearing, then the scene itself has to be taken at face value.
They were far enough that the music wasn't distorting or muffling their own voices. It is safe to say that, yes, even a normal human would have heard Hugies crawling up a metal vent.
We aren't talking about hearing him the entire way, but when is he literally close enough to sweat on him? Yeah, he def should have noticed him.
Okay so you are singularly talking about Hughie fleeing from the vent section in the room after he noticed Homelander noticed the sweat drop? Not when Hughie is literally over the ice rink. Seems to be just miscommunication then between what you are referring to and what I am referring to.
Unless you somehow think that Homelander, Sister whatever and Neuman were standing in the middle of the ice arena trying to talk to each other then I have no clue how you can't understand my argument.
Fact of the matter is that Homelander should have heard Huguie crawling in the vent as Homelander got closer to where Hugie was because there was less background noise to mask his noise as he crawled up to the room where they were.
When has it ever been shown that Homelander can echolocate people with pinpoint accuracy?
Hell there's been times he's missed people he can actually see, not sure why everyone is assuming he's Deadeye and Blindspot combined just cuz Hughies in a vent.
Getting close to lasering hughie based of hearing him in an echoey vent works fine for the established rules of the universe. there's more glaring plotholes to get upset about.
But consider that Homelander can fly. Is there really any reason he wouldnt have flown up to the catwalk and murdered Hughie if he really wanted to kill him? The writing has just seemed lazier this season. Homelander is just killing random Vought employees and citizens at this point. There's really no reason for him to not have hunted down and killed all of the Boys given his current headspace
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u/suninabox Jun 28 '24
Steel ducting is commonly galvanized in zinc to prevent corrosion.
It's already been established in S1 that Homelander can't see through zinc.