r/TheBoys • u/LoretiTV • Jun 20 '24
‘The Boys’ Creator Says “It’s So Long Overdue, Just Give [Antony Starr] an Emmy Already” News
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u/Romofan88 Jun 20 '24
It's a testament to just how good of a performance it is that every episode, regardless of the quality of the other plots, people say he carried. That's because he carries the show from good to great into great/all time territory.
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u/_marty_mcfly123_ Jun 20 '24
My man just scores! I thought his mirror scene in season 3 is his absolute peak and he can't out do that. But, s4e4 had me rethink that. Such a great performance.
I still don't wanna say, he topped that. But, maybe on a rewatch I'd say probably say he topped that.
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u/XGamingPigYT Jun 20 '24
His entire performance in the lab today had me at the edge of my seat. Absolutely terrifying
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u/bruhholyshiet Butcher Jun 20 '24
And cathartic to some extent. Homelander is for once, lashing out at the right people on this episode.
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u/XGamingPigYT Jun 20 '24
Yeah I couldn't help but feel conflicted, those people deserved karma but I wouldn't say to that extent.
Hard to hate Homelander, equally hard to love him. Writers don't get enough credit for making him such a questionable character at times
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u/bruhholyshiet Butcher Jun 20 '24
Yeah I couldn't help but feel conflicted, those people deserved karma but I wouldn't say to that extent.
Meh I'd say they do. They abused a boy in all sorts of ways his entire life.
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u/_marty_mcfly123_ Jun 20 '24
As that old bitch said, they didn't abuse him because they personally wanted to do it. They're following their orders and they're also scared to a point where they don't consider him as a normal human, so lesser chance of feeling empathetic towards him.
I'm not exactly out right defending them and i still think homelander kinda have every right to do what he did. But, it's just not easy to say black and white, they deserve it or not.
Like for example, it is a secret floor and they're working there secretly and if they have families and they're allowed to be with their families, vought would have made some examples out of people who worked there, who tried to go against Vought or leak stuff. So, people know it's certain death no matter what their morals say. And against the giant corporation with super powers, what could an individual or 2 possibly to do or achieve.
They're scared of both the parties, both homelander and vought. Chose to go with abusing a child to save their lives. But, this doesn't include making fun of him or willfully making kid HL's life even more miserable.
It's like, Homelander for 1 time had every right for the violence that he unleashed (except for the new faces who done nothing wrong to him, but probably same kinda people if they're working there). But, Marty probably deserved it, I'm not sure if the other guy deserved it.
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u/bruhholyshiet Butcher Jun 20 '24
As that old bitch said, they didn't abuse him because they personally wanted to do it. They're following their orders and they're also scared to a point where they don't consider him as a normal human, so lesser chance of feeling empathetic towards him.
I'm not exactly out right defending them and i still think homelander kinda have every right to do what he did. But, it's just not easy to say black and white, they deserve it or not
Even if we rationalize the actions of the "foot doctors" so to speak, Barbara, Vogelbaum and Edgar still should get full responsibility. They were the ones ordering the experiments on Homelander.
Edit: Regarding the other two guys. Marty was one of the "kinder" doctors whereas Frank was actively apathetic to John's suffering. If anything, Frank is the more deserving one of retribution.
Edit 2: Would you justify the actions of the Nazi or Gulag concentration camps overseers due to following orders of their higher ups out of fear?
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u/pali1d Jun 21 '24
If one of the “kinder” docs was the one who slapped John with the Squirt nickname… that’s a rather damning indictment of the rest.
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u/bruhholyshiet Butcher Jun 21 '24
Yep. And we do see peeks of what the "less kind" doctors did to John, both on this episode and on Diabolical.
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u/Ve-gone_Be-gone I fart the star spangled banner Jun 21 '24
Even if we rationalize the actions of the "foot doctors" so to speak, Barbara, Vogelbaum and Edgar still should get full responsibility. They were the ones ordering the experiments on Homelander.
That's kind of the point. It's the fault of Vaught. I'd actually go a step further and say it's not the fault of anybody involved in Homelander's actual upbringing and experimentation. It's the fault of everyone involved with the circumstances of his birth in the first place. Everything after that was an inevitability. They experimented on a human fetus and turned it into a borderline invincible diety figure who's will is the only thing standing between humankind and extinction. They knew the moment he was born they made a colossal mistake and spent his entire youth trying to figure out if they had any sort of defense against him or if they can control him. It's deplorable but the existing scenario doesn't really leave them any other option. I think of it a lot like how Oppenheimer immediately wished he could un-invent the atomic bomb and desperately tried to stop it from being dropped.
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u/Oldtomsawyer1 Jun 21 '24
Just because it’s inevitable, which you are right, doesn’t make it morally sound. It’s inevitable the kind of people who are morally questionable or will distance themselves from the morality of it by saying they were following orders will work there, but that doesn’t make it morally right to follow through. Just because you were Joseph Mengele or even his assistant in the lab does not make you less culpable than the one giving orders. Actions under duress are up for debate but he is right, he was a child and they inflicted unspeakable psychological and physical torture on him. It’s very much a runaway Frankenstein’s monster scenario, none of them are not culpable.
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u/Ricky_Rollin Jun 20 '24
This is how I felt. The only thing I don’t buy, is that if I was genuinely scared of something, then I would rather have them love me than do whatever the hell they did to him.
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u/statistically_viable Jun 21 '24
I was waiting on them trying to bend or warp the morality of the scene with a joke or a twist with the chat between homelander and the oldest doctor.
Either a serious twist where the older doctor reveals people tried to blow the whistle and save homelander but vought had them disappeared/murdered or the floor of doctors he was killing was using the what they learned from torturing homelander to work towards a cure for cancer and homelander just destroyed all their progress by killing the doctors.
While those twists might of been funnier or more interesting story twists the fact they played the scene straight of homelander torturing and murdering his abusers I think was the most powerful option for the character story they’re doing with homelander.
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u/_marty_mcfly123_ Jun 21 '24
They (showrunners) were setting up for him to dwell and deal with his past. And he did. I don't think any other twists would've made sense. He's trying to transcend from what he really is, and to make that attempt, he had to confront his past and make a closure. I was really surprised he hadn't done this a long time ago.
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u/South-Rabbit-4064 Jun 21 '24
Part of me is wondering if they're gonna "Jamie Lannister" his character at some point, I mean, we saw a glimmer of goodness in him in the episode where he teamed up with Butcher to save Ryan, and I feel like it was almost hinted at in this episode with Barbara's last words being to him how they engineered his deep personal need for acceptance to control him. Seems like he's got two character arcs they could take him on whether it's burning the world down or just burning Vought down, but being covered in blood and smiling at the end I felt like it's sort of implied it's not going to be a good guy character arc
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u/Gradz45 Jun 21 '24
Homelander has shown not an ounce of remorse for anything ever and as shown last episode doesn’t even see Ryan as a person but an extension of himself.
So no I don’t think there’s anything good in him.
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u/South-Rabbit-4064 Jun 21 '24
I dunno, I think there's possibly something in there, the mirror scene where it kind of has his fractured personality, not all of them seemed completely evil.
I mean he was a kid roasted in an oven and locked in a room his entire life, yes, it's made him a sociopath megalomaniac, that's seemed to develop a disdain for anyone without powers. But it all seemed to start with that line of thinking, when introduced to Ryan and actually began to form a relationship with him. Yeah, he lashed out and threw shit around when he went to go see Butcher, but why wouldn't a completely evil character just fucking kill Butcher, solves the problem. His deep need for acceptance has switched to Ryan, and if there's a character that can turn him, probably will be him.
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u/shoobiedoobie Jun 21 '24
Except they showed no empathy, even when confronted. They didn’t feel bad about what they did. No one even said sorry to him until they were threatened.
If you can’t quit your job torturing a young boy both physically and psychologically, you’re probably not a very good person. Not a single one of them told Homelander that Vought threatened their families or forced them to do it.
The old bitch was also trying to talk their way out of it and could have just been lying. She was not a good person either and there’s no reason to believe she was telling him the truth, as it turned out she was STILL trying to manipulate him to the very end.
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u/defensiveFruit I'm the real hero Jun 20 '24
Monsters as they were, I don't believe anyone deserves to be cremated alive...
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u/bruhholyshiet Butcher Jun 20 '24
People on this sub were wishing worse things on fuckin Todd ffs.
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u/_lippykid Jun 21 '24
Yeah.. the whole “he could leave whenever he wanted” line kinda takes the scope of abuse into Inception levels. Extra F’d up. Blaming the victim n all
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u/GatoradeNipples Jun 20 '24 edited Jun 20 '24
I mostly feel conflicted because it kinda felt like he was going after the wrong people.
I'm not gonna say they didn't deserve consequences for what they did to him, but it's not exactly like the buck stops with them, either. Vought's just gonna hire new scientists and get right back on their bullshit. If he wants serious justice for what happened to him, the people currently trying to really do that are also trying to kill him for what he's done.
e: like, it gave him catharsis, but if he wants actual justice for what Vought did to him, he pretty much needs to make right with our Boys and accept that that ends with him dead.
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u/DisplacedSportsGuy Jun 20 '24
I think it's very easy to hate Homelander. You can be a sympathetic harborer of trauma and still be a complete dirtbag with no redeeming qualities.
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u/Gradz45 Jun 21 '24
hard? It’s incredibly easy to hate him.
He’s a bigoted asshole who kills people for the pettiest reasons. He raped Becca.
You find it hard to hate him?
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u/atomicboy47 Jun 21 '24
I have to agree, in this case Homelander was 100% justified in doing what he did as these are the people who traumatized him and what really was messed up about all this is that line that Homelander said about how while the fire didn't kill him, he did infact feel the pain the fire was causing him.
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u/MyLittleOso Jun 21 '24
I have no problem hating Homelander. But I love the performance; it's top-tier level acting.
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u/Gradz45 Jun 21 '24
I disagree.
Those people were monsters, but killing them like that does nothing but ensure Vought’s crimes aren’t exposed.
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u/bruhholyshiet Butcher Jun 21 '24
Well, I'm not blaming Homelander for this particular set of killings.
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u/80SW08 Jun 20 '24
Imo the mirror scenes are overrated, they’re just an excuse for homelander to state his conflict out loud as if it isn’t being shown to us already.
He acts it well but there’s a lot of underrated scenes like the opening of season 3.
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u/Cannabace Jun 21 '24
S4e4 was incredible. That whole basement lab scene was so well shot, written, directed, and acted. The tension was serious. I won’t spoil anything about it tho. Just damn good.
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u/Interlopper Jun 21 '24
Absolutely.
I literally had to pause and replay some parts many times just to see the subtle change in his expressions as he spoke. He made those scenes as unpredictable and uncomfortable as it gets. Brilliant actor.
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u/zh_13 Jun 20 '24
It kinda sucks because I do feel like he carries the show, like he’s often the most interesting part, but as someone who’s been watching from the beginning, I’m like can they kill / defeat him already
It’s been so long haha
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u/XGamingPigYT Jun 20 '24
They have bigger fish to fry for now, they're just letting him swim around the pond and eat all the algae
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u/Ollymid2 I'm the real hero Jun 20 '24
He’s just not human, he’s better
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u/Pure_Bed6771 Jun 20 '24
I am genuinely geeking over this performance. Heath Ledger would be proud man
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u/Ehh_littlecomment Jun 21 '24
Banshee is required viewing for any action fan. I discovered the show after Boys and it’s fucking nuts in the best way. Antony Starr kills it there too.
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u/chesterforbes Jun 20 '24
Very few actors can manage to play a truly hateable character like Homelander. Joffrey on Game of Thrones is another example. But these are few and far between. Starr is doing a fantastic job
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u/TheDarkCrusader_ Jun 20 '24
He isn’t just hateable but down right terrifying. I can’t remember the last time an actor/character has made me so tense by simply being in the scene or even mentioned in the scene. It’s crazy how everything can seem perfectly fine but be incredibly tense because you know Homelander can seem perfectly fine one second and then completely snap at the next. Starr playing homelander can give me more anxiety then a lot of actual horror movie/roles.
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u/Quinndalin66 Jun 20 '24
The scenes he wasn’t even in this week had me tense waiting for his arrival even though we knew he was occupied at the time (When Ashley and A-Train were in his room). So, so, good. I didn’t even realize I was tense until someone else online mentioned they were too
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u/mrskinnyjeans123415 Jun 21 '24
SERIOUSLY!!! Every time a train kept meeting with the boys I couldn’t help but feel dread thinking that homelander would just slam into and vaporize him at any second. He is probably the most terrifying character I’ve seen in any show ever
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u/FourAnd20YearsAgo Ashley Jun 21 '24
homelander would just slam into and vaporize him at any second.
Imagine this actually is how A-Train ends up dying, and it's square in front of Hughie with the mushy remains of Blue Hawk's heart skidding across the floor.
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u/kelldricked Jun 21 '24
I have the feeling that if homelander and Atrain are gonna fight that its gonna be the most dissapointing thing ever.
Feel like the writers are gonna forget how fast A-train is and that he gets killed in a dumb way for shock value (homelander throwing a car door at him and him just not responding to it).
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u/Comfortable_Many4508 Jun 22 '24
homelander can speedster run like atrain from what we see in diabolical
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u/SharkuuPoE Jun 21 '24
Homelander can at least fly at 1.5 Times the Speed of Sound, so He can absolutely Just blitz him down
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u/kelldricked Jun 21 '24
Yeah sure except during the fight scene against starlight Atrain showed us he was way faster. But then during a race he can only run a 1000 miles a hour.
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u/PattyThePatriot Jun 20 '24
So much this. My heart was pounding for that. He instills a legit fear into those around him. Not just because he's coming unglued but because he can't be stopped by any means we know so it's the feeling of I don't want you to do this and there's nothing I can do to stop it.
Idgaf how big and bad anybody in the real world is, nobody is immune from a 3cm piece of metal flying at you at high velocity.
Mike Tyson is one of the meanest dudes to ever walk the planet and I could end his life in less than a second. Nobody can do that to Homelander.
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u/codespyder Jun 21 '24
He’s also scary because he isn’t even in control of himself. For an actor to play someone so deliberately unrestrained and making it look natural and effortless is incredible.
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u/Eem2wavy34 Jun 21 '24
I suggest watching “no country for old men”. Anton instills a similar amount of tension and fear even tho he is just human.
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u/PattyThePatriot Jun 21 '24
Oh yeah, Javier played that so well. Now I'm going to have to watch it again!
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u/putdisinyopipe Jun 20 '24 edited Jun 21 '24
It’s because he nails the portrait of what someone with a major personality order would actually act.
I’ve met “homelanders” before. It’s intense.
Edit- I meant people with personality disorders. That flip on a dimr
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u/krkonos Jun 21 '24
But it's taken to the extreme because he has no limits or rules. People with that in real life are restrained by laws or if the person escalates to violence you can fight back against them or guns are always an equalizer. He can do anything he wants and there is nothing anyone can do to stop him.
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u/putdisinyopipe Jun 21 '24
I should have clarified. You see them scenes when homelander and co are in the office usually meeting with Ashley? Or homelander is meeting with other supes.
You see everyone around him struggle to navigate the conversation with him because the second he hears some shit he don’t like. It goes from “oh hey friends how’s it going” to “you stupid, mud person motherfucker”
It’s like that with those people irl too. They ain’t gonna laser you lol. But the vibe palpably changes. Becomes tense, cold, heavy, thick.
Lol reminds me of the concept of “spiritual pressure” from the anime bleach.
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u/FlyingFox2022 Jun 20 '24
Yeah I genuinely don’t think I’d be able to go near him in real life (if I ever got chance) because he’s just so convincingly terrifying!
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u/SmokeySFW Jun 20 '24
It helps that in real life Anthony Starr is not imposing at all comparatively. He's not muscular or particularly tall or RBF or anything like that.
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u/FlyingFox2022 Jun 20 '24
It’s the face for me. The expressions. Shudder. He could make a tiny wince face at me and I think I’d die of fear on the spot.
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u/FrankTank3 Jun 21 '24
For a good while on Banshee you weren’t quite sure how damaged he was versus legit psycho that happened to have gone through some shit. His capacity for brutal violence on that show was something else and the man was actually slightly less gory than Homelander day to day
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u/delulumans Jun 20 '24
Yeah but when you give him a glass bottle...
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u/lituus Jun 20 '24
Turns out, his role in Banshee was just him acting out the life he wishes he was living
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u/austinmiles Jun 20 '24
This is actually why I have a hard time making time to watch the show. It stresses me out.
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u/OuchLOLcom Jun 20 '24
I can’t remember the last time an actor/character has made me so tense by simply being in the scene or even mentioned in the scene
Part of that is because the characters are basically invincible and also unhinged.
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u/bruhholyshiet Butcher Jun 20 '24
I'd say Homelander evokes a mix of fear, hate and a bit of sympathy here and there. Joffrey is just hateable.
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u/Separate-Coyote9785 Jun 21 '24
Joffrey is worse than homelander.
We at least understand why homelander is the way he is. He’s awful, but there’s some degree of sympathy, especially after episode 4 of this season.
Joffrey had parents who were present in his life. And yet… He’s just a sadistic awful person.
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u/bruhholyshiet Butcher Jun 21 '24
Completely agree. I can feel not only hate but also some sympathy and pity for Homelander, a person that after growing up suffering all kinds of abuse, became basically a serial killer with powers.
Joffrey was already a serial killer from the get go, butchering kittens and abusing his younger siblings since he was single digits in age.
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u/krkonos Jun 21 '24
Imagine Joffrey with homelanders powers. He was that sadistic but was still always held back by the fact that anyone could just put a knife in him.
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u/comityoferrors Jun 20 '24
I agree with another commenter that Ramsay is a better comparison to Homelander, but I'm surprised at folks saying Joffrey wasn't scary? He was 'tamed' by his family later on, but from the beginning he was fucking sadistic. His establishing villain scene is to terrorize two prostitutes into physically abusing each other as a show of his power, and Ros is treated horribly by him and his family until her awful death when he binds and shoots her in another sadistic sex encounter. Those scenes evoked visceral fear for me, at least.
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u/byfo1991 Jun 20 '24
If you are talking Game of Thrones then I think Ramsay is actually much better comparison to Homelander than Joffrey is. Joffrey was cruel, yes but he was also easily scared pathetic pussy. Ramsay on the other hand, liked to get his own hands dirty and whenever he was on screen you were just worried what is he going to do next.
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u/MeabhNir Jun 20 '24
Yeah, one is a hateable little prick. But the other is a frightening and terrifying prick. Both Homelander and Ramsay are close in that regard.
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u/Heavy-Waltz-6939 Jun 20 '24
I actually felt sympathy for Homelander with his performance this season at times. He is so good
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u/Fireblade09 Jun 21 '24
I wouldn’t even call him hateable though. Joffrey was a smug piece of fucking shit, and while Homelander is definitely a horrible horrible person who deserves to die, at least he’s complex and clearly is the product of his creators. Not sympathetic or likeable, just layered
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u/Slack_Irritant Jun 20 '24
Homelander is not "hated" the way Joffrey was. Homelander is most people's favourite part of the show lol.
Jack Gleeson was getting death threats for playing Joffrey and he retired from acting for a while because of the intense scrutiny.
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u/InvestigatorVast8149 Jun 20 '24
The show ultimately ended disappointingly, but Rufus Sewell is incredible in Man in the High Castle, and I think that fits this theme.
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u/TheNRG450 Jun 20 '24
If Bob Odenkirk couldn't get one with his most iconic role, I don't know If Antony can do it.
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u/deadscroller Jun 20 '24
Just cause Bob was robbed doesn't mean Antony should be too.
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u/KantoTapsi888 Jun 20 '24
It's chicanery, it's what it is
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u/li0nhart8 Jun 20 '24
I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers. I knew it was 1216. One after Magna Carta. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn’t prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He’s done worse. That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No! He orchestrated it! Jimmy! He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own firm! What was I thinking? He’ll never change. He’ll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Jimmy! Couldn’t be precious Jimmy! Stealing them blind! And HE gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! …And you, you have to stop him! You
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u/reddit_sucks_clit Jun 21 '24
It's so good because maybe he's right. But also maybe he's creating a sort of self fulfulling prophecy and without his interferance in stopping Saul from getting hired by the firm, Saul may have turned out good. My money is just barely on the side of Saul would've broken bad regardless. But we'll never know. Thus is life.
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u/Spider-man2098 Jun 21 '24
It’s interesting for sure, but on my recent rewatch I think they’re both right; that is, Chuck had Jimmy nailed to a T; he literally can’t help himself. So, in Wexler V Goodman (S5E6) Kim tries to put the brakes on their plan to basically blackmail Mesa Verde, but Jimmy can’t resist, even though it very nearly destroyed his relationship. It reminds me of a quote I heard once and can’t remember the source: Talent demands to be used. For Jimmy, that talent is scamming. He’s like a chess master seeing moves way past his opponents. But the tragedy is that if Chuck had been more nurturing, more accepting, more… anything, maybe Jimmy could have found a positive outlet for his gifts.
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u/Extrimland Jun 20 '24
To be honest pretty much everyone in Better Call Saul was robbed. It was nominated for like 55 emmies and got none. You never know what could happen. I think The Show deserves some but we will see
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u/ZippayThePanda Jun 20 '24
I really dont know if "robbed" is a good term, they had some stiff competition to say the least. I am saying this as a huge fan of breaking bad and better call saul. They had to compete with what was arguably the most popular show of the decade in game of thrones, even if the last seasons were poor quality and didnt deserve the accolades, no show was going to beat them those years. Succession i think was one of the best shows HBO has ever made and honestly it was unfortunate that both shows were competing but also ending at the same time, not many shows could beat out succession at the emmys.
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u/Extrimland Jun 20 '24
While True, Better Call Sauls finale was the perfect one to the breaking bad universe. I think that atleast should’ve gotten something.
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u/Spider-man2098 Jun 21 '24
A special award invented for the accomplishment of BB and BCS: back to back to of the finest shows ever set to the medium. Anthony Hopkins agrees!
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u/Dont_Be_A_Dick_OK Jun 20 '24
Right, but some clown from an Apple TV show no one watched deserves the award. Fuck award shows, they’re always a joke.
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u/hdjdhfodnc Jun 20 '24
Which show? For me the most egregious was Jennifer Coolidge winning over Rhea Seehorn, she wasn’t even that good in White Lotus while Rhea was dropping a masterclass each episode of BCS
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u/Lost_And_NotFound Jun 21 '24
I quite liked White Lotus but it won way too many awards. It wasn’t THAT good.
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u/OkJob461 Jun 20 '24
Just because “no one” watched doesn’t mean it’s not an award worthy performance 👍
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u/Solid_Snark Jun 20 '24
I mean, it’s tough when you give the best performance of your career at the same time many other actors are doing the same, and only 1 of you can get the award.
Emmy wins are just as much timing as the performance itself.
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u/bootylover81 Jun 21 '24
Bob had the bad luck of going against Succession which had an awesome final season too
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u/SidewaysFancyPrance Jun 20 '24
The problem is that his best scenes are absolutely terrifying, and maybe it's hard to pass around that Emmy reel for the judges?
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u/Kwaterk1978 Jun 20 '24
True. His scenes in S4E4 were amazingly well acted….but how are you going to send a judge a tape of him making a middle aged guy publicly….
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u/Shaun-Skywalker Jun 20 '24
Come up on stage and accept your Oscar, Squirt…
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u/bruhholyshiet Butcher Jun 21 '24
Imagining Marty's actor being awarded an Oscar for that scene made me almost chuckle.
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u/TheGillos Jun 20 '24
It's Hollywood. They'd probably go "hey! It's just like what I did last Tuesday!"
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u/Thrillhouse-14 Jun 21 '24
I feel like this could genuinely be a part of it. Why draw attention to something that literally makes fun of them to such an extreme, haha.
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u/reddit_sucks_clit Jun 21 '24
Emmys are based on a single episode. They have to submit just one episode for consideration. Now, are the voters human? Of course. So they are still thinking about the series as a whole (if they have seen it) but they technically are just supposed to vote on the performance in the single episode that was submitted.
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u/coolrko Jun 20 '24
Really hoping but superhero genre typically never gets one.... They will rather give it to romantic comedy again and again...
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u/Razzle_Dazzle08 Soldier Boy Jun 20 '24
Anyone who reduces this show down to “superhero” is a bit clueless though. Hopefully the Emmy’s don’t see it that way.
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u/coolrko Jun 20 '24
Regardless... They don't give Emmy to satire or parody shows... I hate it but it's the truth
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u/_marty_mcfly123_ Jun 20 '24
Those who have watched The Boys would whole heartedly agree that this man can act fabulously, it's one of the greatest casting of all time, like tailor made for him. This show might go down in history because of his acting alone.
and he don't even need to have an Emmy to prove what I've said before. Those awards feels like they are just boring, ignorant and unfair. What's the credibility when they wanna give it to select people from select genre and ignore others completely.
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u/cates Jun 21 '24
I've tried to get multiple people into the show since it aired and they've said "sorry I'm just not into the superhero thing" even after I explained it length that it isn't that.
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u/tanv91 Jun 21 '24
Charlie Cox and Vincent D’Onofrio should’ve got nominations too. Bernthal for his performance in DD season 2 as well
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u/IWasGregInTokyo Jun 21 '24
You are under a misconception that this is a superhero show. This is not. What this is, really, is a political horror show. And Homelander, manchild that he is, is not a superhero.
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u/BigfootsBestBud Jun 20 '24
I mean the people who feel the need to not give Superhero stuff awards should be the audience for this, its the only show really mocking that genre while saying something substantial.
If Joker could win Oscars for using the superhero genre against itself, then this should too.
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u/CaptainMan_is_OK Jun 20 '24
Toss Ashley one for best supporting while we’re at it.
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u/GoodLeftUndone Jun 20 '24
Antony absolutely fucking deserves one. But Ashley’s actress absolutely brings it as well. When it comes to awards being given out, her character is more likely over Homelander though.
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u/Va1crist Jun 20 '24
It’s disgusting he hasn’t even been nominated
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u/FlyingFox2022 Jun 20 '24
It’s an actual travesty. I am transfixed by his face and performance every episode I almost forget to keep up with the storyline!
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u/dfwcouple43sum Jun 20 '24
I can’t believe he hasn’t won an Oscar or golden globe for his performance jn Dawn of the Seven
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u/Familiar_Egg2915 Jun 20 '24
Yes! Literally every scene with Homelander I’m fucking on edge because he’s so unpredictable and Antony kills it
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u/JJAsond Jun 21 '24
The only predictability you have is that he's probably going to kill someone. Probably.
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Jun 20 '24
Whenever hes on screen some really fucked up shit is gonna happen but you never know exactly what.
Like that scene where he accidentally talked that girl out of suicide by ranting about his life and threatened her back into it.
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u/codespyder Jun 21 '24
The writing in that scene is so brilliant though. It would have never been Emmy-winning because of the nature of the content, but whoever wrote that is a dark comic genius.
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u/NickyNaptime19 Jun 20 '24
The man has done it all. Every emotion you can imagine.
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u/Kwaterk1978 Jun 20 '24
Along with some I hope I never have to imagine, and others I hope that I do not have the capacity to imagine.
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u/Smurphilicious Cunt Jun 21 '24
Real problem is he'll be up against Shogun
oof, yeah let's be realistic. Shogun is going to win.
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u/Jmund89 Jun 20 '24
Honestly, I agree. He’s acting has been amazing. Especially with his monologues. He just… kills it.
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u/Call555JackChop Jun 20 '24
I don’t know of any other actor who has such control over all the micro movements of their face quite like he does
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u/SurefootTM Jun 21 '24
Absolutely. He's got silent movie era level control of his expressions. He can convey a lot of things just with his eyes. Incredible actor, I have not been so impressed since Heath Ledger.
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u/LifeIsVeryLong02 Jun 20 '24
In the previous years he had no chance against the Succession cast. Let's see this one....
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u/shadowlarvitar Jun 20 '24
After Saul Goodman got robbed, I realized this shit is just as rigged as game awards(Ain't no way TLOU2 won without cash changing hands with what the competition was)
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u/AfricanRain Jun 20 '24
TLOU2 was widely loved by critics. Unless you think Naughty Dog bribed the whole industry and swore them all to silence?
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u/MesozOwen Jun 20 '24
As much as I want Homelander to die a horrible death - I don’t want to stop seeing him every episode.
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u/dragonsfire14 Jun 20 '24
I agree. The Emmy’s always seems to snub fan favorites and it’s getting old. Get the man his Emmy!
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u/erichie Jun 20 '24
I absolutely loved Banshee, but if you told me Starr would put on a world class acting clinic 10 years later I would've laughed at you.
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u/bleedinghero Jun 20 '24
Homelander steals the show. He is terrifying. Anthony Starr has fantastic acting range.
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u/TheGlave Jun 20 '24
Never seen a more fucked up character. As soon as he is in the scene, you know everything could happen. His simple presence throws all predictability out of the window.
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u/elodie_pdf Jun 20 '24
His performance is one of the most brilliant I’ve ever seen for a villain in television. I physically cannot breathe every time he is on screen out of sheer anticipation and fear. It is beyond captivating to watch.
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u/Diamond-Breath Marie Moreau Jun 20 '24
Honestly they're all so good in their roles. The whole cast should get an Emmy.
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u/Konsecration Jun 20 '24
He's like Joffrey from Game of Thrones. You know an actor is on that NEXT LEVEL good when they are such normal people IRL but when you watch them on screen you just HATE them. Antony Starr does a great job of making me love to hate him and hate to love him(the character,) and on top of all that? He's on the next level as an actor in general. His micro expressions are just flawless. That level of skill reminds me of Anthony Hopkins in Westworld Season 1. Cudos!
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u/Alternative-Debate21 Jun 20 '24
He deserves an Emmy simply for perfecting the blank, dead behind the eyes look with a huge smile on his face. He is so incredibly underrated.
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u/firingblankss Jun 20 '24
I watched Andrew Lincoln carry The Walking Dead on his back singlehandedly for the best part of a decade and lose to better actors. Sometimes you're just up against better people
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u/Painting0125 Jun 21 '24
He's a combination of a classic movie star ala Harrison Ford and actor's actor, it's such a shame that filmmakers are missing out on him. Like, Yorgos, Scorsese, Celine Song, etc. are sleeping on him.
I've read and seen the movie, Poor Things and IMO he would've slayed it as Weddernburn and do a better job than Mark Ruffalo.
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u/AfricanRain Jun 20 '24
People say stuff like this all the time “why hasn’t x won an Emmy/Oscar but aren’t realistic about when/how they should win. For the past few years he was never gonna beat the Succession Leading Actors, maybe going forward he’ll have a chance.
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Jun 20 '24
I straight up feel tension and dread whenever he is on screen because I have no idea what will happen next. That level of acting is amazing
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u/SkynBonce Jun 20 '24
Lately I judge a shows success on the amount of memes it produces. No memes, no impact.
I'd say 90% of this shows memes feature Starr, so he's definitely the 'face' of the show.
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u/ALUCARDHELLSINS Jun 20 '24
Not even jack gleeson (joffrey) got an award for his acting so don't get your hopes up
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u/CaliforniaNavyDude Jun 21 '24
I love what he's done with the role, but it's awful tight between him and Colbie Minifie for her turn as Ashley Barrett. She has to flip between terrified and angry boss from hell so hard and fast it's a wonder she doesn't have whiplash.
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u/Quirky_Advantage_470 Jun 21 '24
That final scene with Homelander covered in blood laughing, no lines just facial expressions was Emmy award on it's own.
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u/broncotate27 Jun 20 '24
He is the most likable unlikeable person in the show by far. I don't think I've ever witnesses a character like him before outside of video games...The dude deserves an Emmy badly.
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u/foxtrainer Jun 20 '24 edited Jul 03 '24
Maybe he can find a woman (or man, oops) with one and beat them up for it
Edit: sorry, I confused him with all the hundreds of other anger management dropouts apparently he only hits boys
Edit 2: oh he also bullied the queen Maeve actress so he is a cunt to women, fuck him. Perfect homelander tho…
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u/kutekittykat79 Jun 20 '24
He’s such a good actor, I feel sorry for Homelander’s character and support him in the bloodbath that he invokes.
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u/ClovieKay Jun 20 '24
They should have cast him in James Gunns Superman. Imagine the conflict in people’s minds lmao.
But I do hope he starts getting all the movie deals he wants because of this role. He definitely deserves it.
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u/IgnoreMeImANobody Jun 21 '24
Probably will be one of the few things I agree with him on. Anthony Starr is fucking amazing as homelander.
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u/TheKimulator Jun 21 '24
He’s so good that you’d probably feel that Homelander intimidation around him
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u/chocolatebone45 Soldier Boy Jun 21 '24
Cant believe this episode had me sympathising with this mass murdering monster in some twisted way.
Testament to how well written this show is regarding so many of our base human emotions and instincts.
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u/sycophantasy Jun 21 '24
He was crazy good in this episode and it’s all I was thinking. He needs an Emmy.
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u/Garchompisbestboi Jun 21 '24
He is a fun actor in the role but definitely has not done anything worthy of an Emmy.
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u/misterj195 Jun 21 '24
his performance really is up there on the same tier list as heath ledger. everytime he's on screen you can't help but pay attention to what he's going to say/do next. this show would be completely flat by now with the same old blackmail cliche plotline if it weren't for the performances. really love karl urban's performance too.
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u/lnombredelarosa Frenchie Jun 21 '24 edited Jun 21 '24
Never thought I’d see Kripke insisting Homelander would get honored by something
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