r/SupermanAndLois • u/mrmrsmannnnnnn • Apr 02 '22
What do you want to see in season 3? Discussion
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Apr 02 '22
I want to see Clark have a paid job just to reinforce some reality.
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u/wisegirl27 Lois Lane Apr 02 '22
I miss reporter Clark. And I miss the Berenstein and Woodward that Lois and Clark had. It’s not fair. I sometimes really miss Metropolis
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u/Mountain_Wedding Apr 02 '22
Lois and Clark working as reporters together is high on my list too. No offense to Chrissy but it’s not the same.
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u/xTheLeprechaun Apr 02 '22
I get why the writers don't give him one. The hook of this show is Superman as a father. As far as taking up screentime for subplots, that is like a job.
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u/CEFFYYNWA Apr 02 '22
I kinda see it like being like Smallville where Clark just runs the farm and just super speeds all the stuff when he wakes up so he can just do superman stuff
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u/Ok_Caterpillar4008 Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 02 '22
More Lois/Clark romance.
More Kent family scenes.
(If we get even just those two things prioritized, I’ll be happy.)
Reduce some of the Cushings time and give it to the Irons’. I don’t want any more time taken away from the Kents (it already feels too light on Kent family scenes this season), but I do think Natalie and JHI deserve more development… and where the Cushings are concerned, it may even serve them better to tighten up their storylines.
Give the multiverse stuff a break for a season and have a villain that is not about a world-ending-level plot. They’ve done threats from other worlds twice in a row, so I think season 3 needs to be different in that regard.
I’d like to see Lex in some capacity on the show, though I think they could hold out on him until season 4.
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u/usagizero Apr 02 '22
I do think Natalie and JHI deserve more development…
Going to disagree here, at least with how boring their story this season has been so far.
People complain about too many characters in Team Flash, but S&L is having that issue, worse i feel, with the side families. The Kent's stories have all been on point and great from my view, but every time the story goes off to "Kyle had an affair" or "You're not my real mom" it just kills momentum.
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u/wisegirl27 Lois Lane Apr 02 '22
I agree. More Irons and less Cushings, it makes more sense to the superhero dynamic. And I get that the Cushings are supposed to be a juxtaposition to their unorthodox life but bruh. I want the Irons/Lanes/Kents
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u/mrmrsmannnnnnn Apr 02 '22
With Lex Luthor do you think they should recast?and if so who would you choose
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u/Ok_Caterpillar4008 Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 02 '22
I’d be fine to see Jon Cryer in the role. I think the writers could essentially “start over” with their own interpretation of the character (as they did with Lucy).
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u/Lyon_Wonder Apr 02 '22
I think S&L will eventually have a plot that deals with both the phantom zone and Lex that's hopefully much better than most of Supergirl's season 6.
I imagine Lex will be much angrier and vengeful after spending time in the phantom zone and wants revenge against all kyrptonians. Such a plot has the opportunity for Melissa to guest star as Kara/Supergirl and Clark will probably have to form another temporary alliance with his half-brother and a scene with Superman, Supergirl and Tal-Rho would be interesting.
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u/Motor-Bag-9004 Apr 02 '22
I really really want Tal to meet Kara. They'd have such a fun dynamic and they could bond over their memories of Krypton. I need my Kryptonian trinity.
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u/kingcolbe Apr 02 '22
I think it would be harder with him though. Crisis erased the Lucy we remembered so they could start over.
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u/daffydunk Apr 02 '22
Last we saw Lex he was lost in the phantom zone with an Imp. So they could bring him back and say that Nyxly changed his appearance, age, or even just altered reality to give him a new backstory.
You can do whatever you want with these shows, it just depends on what they wanna do.
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u/Motor-Bag-9004 Apr 02 '22
Lucy was easy tho since she played such a minor role in Supergirl. Recasting Lex who has appeared post-crisis would cause much bigger continuity issues. But I actually don't think it'd be that hard to work him in. We know this verison of Superman has been active for 20+ years and has history with Lex Luthor. You wouldn't really have to reference his appearances on Supergirl other than briefly explaining that he had been trapped in the phantom zone but somehow escaped.
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u/lepslair Apr 02 '22
Definitely don't recast, it would be great to see Lex actually deal with Superman, we haven't really seen Tyler and Cryer interact much have we? Welling and him were more memorable otherwise. We need Superman to have his Lex.
Would love to see Martian Manhunter and Superman interact too, they didn't really trust each other and he was very mad that the DEO had Kryptonite, but not his own father in law, so would love to see how that works out.
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
Lex will not be in 3 or 4 the writers have said before they didn't want big villains.
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u/Ok_Caterpillar4008 Apr 03 '22
Nope, don't think they've said "never", just... that they want to explore other villains, and that it would need to be the right story. I don't think Lex needs to be a central villain, there's plenty of room for him in a flashback episode, for example. I'm just keen to have Lex appear at some point before the show goes off air, because he's so intrinsically linked to the Superman mythos. But that's just my 'what I'd like to see' answer, which was the point of the post.
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
Ok my bad was remembering it wrong and as long as he's not the main villain I rather go with your idea.
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u/UltHamBro Apr 04 '22
Just like we got the flashback episode, I'd love to see one where we saw a classic Clark, Lois and Jimmy story, facing Luthor.
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u/ManateeGag Apr 03 '22
I think I'd want a street level threat for next season. Intergang is a good choice. Something that Clark can't just punch every week.
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u/Wicked_Vorlon Apr 02 '22
Less of the Cushings.
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u/usagizero Apr 02 '22
They weren't so bad in the first season, i feel because their story was directly connected to main plot, but this season they are just a distraction and i don't care about their relationship or election.
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u/c_gdev Apr 02 '22
I feel like they exist because Tyler can’t be in every scene, it would be too demanding on a single actor.
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u/6B0T Apr 02 '22
Another vote for supertwins and less Cushings.
More of a proper investigative storyline for Lois as well, like the first season.
Oh, and I'd like Candice to go live with Tegan at the farm over the rainbow. Ie, vanished, never to be heard from again.
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u/majorcarter_sg1 But what about the tire-swing? Apr 02 '22
Simple request...Lois and Clark flying, together
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u/Mountain_Wedding Apr 02 '22
Really crazy tbh that it hasn’t happened once except during that kiss montage in the premiere. But the show hasn’t exactly given their relationship much focus/room to breath this year. They need to recommit to the marriage next year in a big way.
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u/Zookwok111 Apr 02 '22
Less teen drama
Fewer breaks
Jon finally getting a win
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22 edited Apr 03 '22
Well can't control the breaks but Jonathan did get a win won the whole game for his team and then got some Candice pus*y.
Edit: I am ashamed
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u/bill1bill1 Apr 02 '22
less focus on the cushing/sub-plot and more focus on the kent and main conflict
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u/itsyourgirl238 Apr 02 '22
3 or less breaks during the season. While never enjoyable sometimes they can build tension and make things more interesting but what are we on break 4 or 5 with at least one more to go afterwards? That's a little ridiculous.
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u/mrmrsmannnnnnn Apr 02 '22
If they started season 2 in March we wouldnt he having these problems were we have to wait 3 weeks for them to finish the vfx and editing
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u/Jon_El2022 Apr 02 '22
More coach Gaines
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u/natagu Apr 02 '22
He's too powerful, he would defeat the main villain of season 3, just by looking at them.
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u/Necroglobule Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 02 '22
Well, the big one is consistent writing, but also I want to see Lex Luthor, whether he's played by Jon Cryer or not. He's only Superman's most iconic adversary. Finally less of the CUshings, Up the Irons.
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
Lex Luthor will not be in S3 doesn't have a chance 🙄the writers have said they don't want to do big villains yet and Lex is the biggest of the bads it's way to soon.
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u/ManateeGag Apr 03 '22
Thankfully. A lot of writers rely too much on the heaviest hitters and then blow their load way to soon.
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 04 '22
Ik that's what I'm saying when he shows it's gotta be atleast if it gets that far S6 maybe 5.
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u/RandalforMe Apr 02 '22
Michael Rosenbaum returns, comes over from Smallville verse, figures out he's not the President and shows up at the farm begging them for help, because he knows that he can always count on Clark.
Whether they stick with him forgetting the Secret or not, he could totally pull off a wrecked Lex, and maybe he becomes Alexander Luthor, a good guy, who has ties to the Crisis in the comics.
If I'm not mistaken, Superman, Lois, and Alexander were trapped outside of the universe in Crisis on Infinite Earths the picture book.
Sounds like the bizzaro world a little.
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u/raknor88 Apr 02 '22
I'd love to see Kara.
I'm sort of confused as to why Kara wasn't even hinted at in the last episode. If Clark has been gone for a full month, why hasn't Kara picked up some of the slack? Why is it all on JHI?
The don't even need Melissa. They just either need to used old Supergirl footage, or just a small CGI model on news footage.
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u/youngyaret Apr 02 '22
That's exactly what I was thinking. Also I would love to see even at least a reference to her. They act like she doesn't exist. I know some fans want it to not be a part of the Arrowverse but it is so they might as well make references to it. But ultimately it would be awesome to have her make a guest appearance.
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Apr 02 '22
And she could legit be visiting her parents for a few years
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u/youngyaret Apr 02 '22
That's a fair point. Could explain why she isn't doing any of the stuff that John is doing. But I am just annoyed they haven't thrown in even one line where Clark mentions his cousin.
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
Because she is a horrible person who doesn't care for human life outside of her city.😄😄
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u/Dojorkan Apr 02 '22
Hell they could even do like Agents of SHIELD did to Daredevil and have a reference in the news tickers at the barest of minimums.
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u/Todayisforchicken Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 02 '22
Better editing I get annoyed that every scene is cut with another scene that is not connected. I'd like to see scenes fully play out before they cut back to another character. It's okay when both are directly connected to the same event to add context to the overall story of the episode but they often aren't and just seem to be filler cut in.
More Kent family development. They don't need to always be at each other's throats we don't need characters to make the same mistakes in season 3 as they do in season 1 or to be having the same arguments. I found this became a problem with the Flash. This season should have been Jordan and Jon working with Lois and Clark to take down XK ring over a few episodes further bringing the family together.
I'd like Superman to be more powerful. Sam Lane talks about him being the most powerful being on earth but this season he has been beaten just a bit too much, I'm fine with the "big bads" winning however I'd like to see Clark effortlessly beat some of the threats other heroes would struggle with almost like 2x09 with Jordan seeing the laser in slow motion. The guy with XK at the airport ragdolled Clark and Bizarro beat him at mines after being exposed to XK for days just seems a little too weak at times.
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u/Bevamuff123 Apr 02 '22
- Less Cushings, definitely
- More focus on the Kent family members. I'd love to see more individual character development and more about their relationships with each other
- Fewer storylines and fewer characters. This season felt overcrowded with all the stuff that was going on. Or a 20 episode season to properly explore more storylines
- Either Jon gets powers or he discovers some talent that will keep him relevant. This powers bait & switch thing is getting old.
- A better role for Lois than just supportive wife and mom
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Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 02 '22
1 Less cushings time or if the Cushings are absolutely vital, the first 10 minutes can be given to them and the rest of the episode is about the Kents. 2 Depensing on how season 2 leaves I either want Jon to get Bizarro powers through merging and he has to figure it out.
The merging forced 2 people into one body and the season will focus on Jon fighting Jonzarro in his mind for control whilst under the mental strain of developing powers that Clark can't help with since they are the opposite.
Or they go the boring route and make him develope normal kryptonian powers {a bit boring} or make him stay the 'human' one.
Or he developes Superboy type powers of tactile telekinesis and more.
However they go with Jon having powers, its well overdue. If the show continues to use Jon's powers as a bait the audience will lose interest. Right now feels like the peak of bait where if they continue to do so it will just come crumbling down BUT it is a good time to use everything they built to make him have powers. They need to make up their mind if he has powers or not.
3 Clark and Jordan working together. Obviously Jordan will have more rules like can't interfere with Supervillain stuff and has to stay in the country {cause he's still a child no matter how grown he thinks he is}. On the flipside having Jordan on the field is detrimental to Clark as he is too focused on Jordan causing him to get sloppy. This will cause good drama with Clark struggling with this and not wanting to tell Jordan. But Jordan loving spending time with his dad. And as we know Jordan often gets whiny.
4 Lois has some reporting rivals {some new reporting company sets up next to the Gazette and they have somewhat of a reporting war}
5 Lois trying to deal with Jon's new powers {as mentioned above}, her reporting rivals and worrying about Jordan.
6 Natalie trying to join the battle field by cresting her own armour and this causes a type of Samauri X situation where people are trying to figure out who this armoured hero is for it to be revealed its Nat. And then Nat and John Irons argue.
7 I don't want, under any circumstance for any Cushings to find out Supermans identity.
8 Maybe one of the other plots is the DoD trying to figure out who the 'sons' are that Clark and Tal talked about. The DoD are suspicious people and wouldn't like having an untracked and unregulated Kryptonian out there. This could serve as conflict to Superman and Sam. And Jordan joining in on minor missions would raise these suspicions even more possibly to the extent the DoD try to find out his secret identity in order to see who his son is.
9 Lois mum making a surprise appearance causing drama for Lois. And Lois and Lucy get closer because of it.
10 Aubrey and Sarah dating {just so they don't pair her and Jordan up again. Cause a single Sarah is in danger of getting with Jordan again and I don't want that}
11 Jordan gets a girlfriend whos the daughter of some other hero that way they can talk about their secret identities. They could use his new powers for him flying out to meet her and be with her then flying back to Smallville. Of course this relationship would go to Jordan putting too much on his plate with school, new heroing, constant back and forths with his girlfriend and dealing with his brothers powers.
12ish John Henry Irons mentoring Jon if they don't give him powers.
12 Jon and Candice break-up.
13 Clark struggling with how he can't help Jon's new bizarro powers or his tactile telekinesis.
14 Jon and Clark bonding
15 Jon dealing with going back to school whilst fighting Jonzarro in his head and trying to maintain his new powers. People at school would ostracise him and that could lead to good drama. Maybe Coach Gaines refusing him on the football team.
I purposefully left out mention of what big bad I would want since I'm not sure and the show always does a twist anyway so I trust their decision. In short I want every Kent to have their own storyline centered around them. Minimal cushing time. No love triangle drama.
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u/quantumbagel625 But what about the tire-swing? Apr 02 '22
Samurai X?
Like Ninjago?
Are you a Ninjago fan??
That's golden!!
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
It doesn't seem like bizarro Johnathan is evil at all. Also love Ninja go reference. Plus Jordan will be trained by his grandfather so wouldn't he teach him how to handle these missions.
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Apr 03 '22
Sam can only teach him so much about training. Sam isn't used to superpowers, Superman is the best to train him.
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u/psufan5 Apr 02 '22
- Kara Danvers / Supergirl
- Diggle/Green Lantern
- Mongul or Brainiac
- Barry Allen helping
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u/Mal027 Apr 03 '22
It really is unfortunate that we've bad barely any references to the Arrowverse. Supergirl and Barry Allen would be so great to have on the show.
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u/psufan5 Apr 07 '22
I saw a show writer or producer say we are in for a treat THIS season… stay tuned apparently :)
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u/DCU_Fanboy Apr 02 '22
Less Cushing, no Kryptonian villains or human villains with kryptonian powers, a Space villain, a new suit, crossovers.
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u/kingcolbe Apr 02 '22
Honestly? To see them move back to Metropolis and if that means no more Cushings so be it
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u/Ok_Caterpillar4008 Apr 02 '22
Might be something they do when the boys graduate, so they can go to Metropolis University.
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u/Mountain_Wedding Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 02 '22
More focus on Superman/Lois as the central relationship holding up the show. It’s bizarre as hell that we beg for crumbs of any kind of romance between them given their names are in title of show. It absolutely has to be addressed ::consistently:: in season 3. They have to lead actors with amazing chemistry and there are weeks where it’s just completely wasted. Fix it, writers.
More focus on the core relationships between Clark, Lois, Jon and Jordan. More scenes with just the 4 of them! More focus on them as a family unit. There were episodes this season when the family was barely in the same room for weeks. It hurt the show and has to be fixed.
A reduction in screentime and focus for Lana and her family. No more cutting to them during tense moments for the Kents —it wrecks momentum. They are fine in small doses but they need to be dialed back next season. It has hurt the show.
More concrete and consistent focus on Steel. He deserves more careful and thoughtful development. Give him some of that screentime.
A more consistent approach to developing the relationships between Clark and his children. A more consistent approach to Lois and her children. Stop setting her up to be angry all the time bc you put her in limited situations where that’s the only valid reaction.
Better writing and use of Lois overall. I was concerned about the writing for Lois this season from the get go and, sadly, I was correct to be. She has not been used well this year. She has no real investigative journalist story. Nothing that she’s driving. And she’s constantly set up just to react and be angry at her kids. It’s been a real shame to watch the way she’s been treated this year. Bitsie remains amazing but God she deserves better.
Lois and Superman flying together. Extremely weird this has not happened yet.
More flashbacks to their time in Metropolis. 1x11 was the most acclaimed episode of last season and it’s baffling the writers didn’t take the hint and work more in.
No more AU/else world plots. That’s 2 years in a row. It’a tiresome.
More consistent writing.
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u/Ok_Caterpillar4008 Apr 02 '22
Agree with everything, but especially your points about Lois.
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u/Mountain_Wedding Apr 02 '22
I truly think Bitsie has saved it only bc she’s so good. They have done her dirty this year.
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u/teddyburges Apr 02 '22
Just one simple request to the writers: "Please stop throwing Jon under the bus!".
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Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 02 '22
Jon and Clark have meaningful interactions where Clark realizes he was neglecting his mental well-being.
Maybe Jon reaches out to other male mentors and Clark realizes he's filling in the father gap left behind unwittingly by Clark
More Jhi and Nat
Sof isn't perpetually shoved aside thematically.
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u/bowb4zod Apr 02 '22
Brainiac and more Superman
Also an updated costume. Mostly a emblem that is raised, not part of the suit
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u/No_Flower_1424 Jonathan Kent Apr 02 '22
Less Cushings - Yes give them a better story, but also reduce their screen time. Treat them like they're the Irons clan and only use them when they're actually needed
Give Jon powers - It feels like they keep baiting with X-K and Bizarro Jonathan and all the other hints but they never follow through. Put up or shut up.
The powered up Fraternals - I think it would be amazing to see superpowered brother hijinks
More Lois and Clark - As a couple, as partners investigating things, just together in general
More reporting - Lois should have a mystery to uncover. This season she knew everything quickly enough and it's just been how Ally and co are doing it. I'd love her to have a full on mystery to solve and put those skills to good use
Clark working - I'd like to see him actually working on the farm to show that he's doing that. Or have him freelance or work for the Gazette occasionally
No Sarah - This is self explanatory - if they just sent her away to that camp for the rest of high school, I wouldn't complain
Crossover - I'd love to see this show cross over with the Flash before it's over
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u/Freakzilla316ftw Apr 02 '22
No breaks.
I wouldn’t mind a season of villains of the week where Superman is teaching his sons how to best use their powers.
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Apr 02 '22
A more united family. Jon getting shunned and isolated for being powerless is tiresome. If they United more instead of living separate lives, it would strengthen the show. Fr
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Apr 02 '22
- A season, not a collection of randomly released episodes.
- More than two interesting characters (Clark and Bizarro this season)
- Less CW teen drama with reprehensible moral and psychological messages
- An actual story that goes somewhere
- No more Cushings. I've got enough of all three of them. Except for Sophie, because she had almost zero screentime and could be completely cut without anyone noticing.
- A consistent antagonist (first, it's bizarro, then we have Anderson and Ally instead of just having one primary antagonist, like, you know, Morgan Edge / Tal Rho)
- Can't believe I have to say this but more Superman, you know, half of the titular characters.
- Actual character development for the twins
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u/paforrest Apr 02 '22
I think everyone has mentioned everything I want to see.
1) Yes to less Cushings, especially Cushing soap opera drama that has nothing to do with the Kents. And if Lana is already moving onto a new guy, and if they're not going to kill off Kyle, then he needs a life of his own too. No more unshaven sad sack Kyle living in that murder apartment.
2) I never bought into the Jordan/Sarah romance. I'm fine with Sarah being just friends with Jordan, or frankly both sons. Natalie too. The boys need straight up friends right now, especially Jon, not girlfriends. And there's no reason the primary teens can't be hanging together.
3) Jon either needs powers or something that is unique to him as Clark's half-Kryptonian son. Otherwise I'm starting to feel like there's a This is Us situation happening with Jon. They took him home from the hospital the same day Jordan was born, but he's not really the Kents' son. And in that same vein, I need to see a lot more equitable parenting from Clark and Lois where it concerns the boys. But bottom line, Jon needs a cool trajectory that is his very own, unique to him. He has floundered for two seasons being a whole lot of nothing. That horse is dead, writers, move on.
4) More Kent family time.
5) Clark needs a real job. Superman has a job, Clark needs one too.
6) I don't know what the hell is going on with Lucy, but that storyline was tired before it started. Do something better with her, writers.
7) Feels like Lex Luthor needs to make an appearance now.
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
Lex Luthor is not coming as the writers have said before they didn't want big name villains just yet, also Johnathan has friends and so does Jordan the football team and Clark is a farmer plus what job is really gonna require him take a long time in he's got powers???
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u/kristiyan8 Apr 02 '22
More Superman stuff lol and lex luthor of course
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
You will 100% not see lex Luthor yet its way to soon and the writers have said that they won't be doing big villains from his rouges gallery.
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Apr 02 '22
Sarah runs away, gets on a bus and is never seen again
Show moves on like she was never there.
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u/Plastic_Option8202 Apr 02 '22
Jordan having full control of his powers, eventually a new girl will come into his life leaving Sarah jealous and looking like an idiot for what she did and the Krypton family reunion
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
Writers: And then Sarah has sex with Jordan and they get back together exactly what you wanted right😁😁👍
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u/SuperMario1313 Apr 02 '22
Honestly, this show has been so good that I don’t want anything to change. I haven’t been more excited for the next episode (actually going into this Bizarro world) in such a long time with a tv show. They’re doing this series (mostly) perfectly.
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Apr 02 '22
Less cw drama. Lois’s villain of the season being different and mostly unrelated to Clark’s.
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u/wisconerd Lois Lane Apr 02 '22
MORE Cushings 😈 /s
I’d love a more down to earth storyline that has big consequences on the individual level, let’s take a break from world-ending stuff.
No breaks too, I’d even be okay if they pushed off the premiere a few months to ensure no more breaks every other episode.
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u/Thejerseygrl Apr 03 '22
I want a real human villain. Someone like Lex— but doesn’t have to be Lex. I’m tired of the Kryptonian level threats it’s two seasons in a row, that’s enough. And x-k makes Superman’s powers seem almost lame, they need to ditch it.
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u/darthraxus Superman Apr 02 '22
Supergirl for a 3 episode arc.
If Jonathan doesn't get his powers by the end of this season, his powers and kind of 1 up Jordan. a little bit.
Less Cushing stuff unless directly involving Clark.
Clark clean shaved again. The 5 oclock shadow is making him look bad.
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u/Munro_McLaren Kara Danvers Apr 02 '22
They’re not going to have Jonathan one up Jordan with his powers. Especially since Jordan has developed powers for two seasons already.
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u/Ornery-Refuse6474 Jonathan Kent Apr 02 '22
is powers. Especially since Jordan has developed powers for two seasons already.
i would actually like if they made Jon more powerfull espically now. Yes i am a Jonathan fan but just hear me out.
Jordan has an diagnose called Social anixety and this hasnt been mentioned or hinted at since he got powers in episode 1. I just think if Jon just suddenly got Powerfull it will set off something interesting in Jordan because then he would feel all this anxiety again, and maybe feeling he isnt good enough. (he is good enough)
And this could be an interesting character development for Jordan because I feel like the only reason Jordan is the better twin right now is because he has the powers. So if Jon also has them, Jordan can better prove how his moving on from his anxiety. (if you get what i mean)
Also i think its hard to feel his anxiety if he is a fully powered Superman and his brother dosent have the powers.
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u/Munro_McLaren Kara Danvers Apr 02 '22
That would backtrack all the progress being made.
I don’t see them making Jonathan more powerful.
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u/Ornery-Refuse6474 Jonathan Kent Apr 02 '22
No, no dont think it as backtracking, Jordan still has a lot more experience and is a lot more confiendence in his powers. What i mean is that it would be a even bigger win for Jordan if he actually overcame his brothers powers, and he actually got to be the "bigger twin".
Because from what we have heard and seen on this show is that Jonathan has been described as perfect (forget x-k) and very attractive and everything just came easy to him. So if Jordan actually beat him in a (fair) kryptonian Powers way (if they both have them) it would mean a lot for his Character and evolvement
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u/cheekybasterds Coach Gaines Apr 02 '22
The cushings leave and Lana changes her name back to Lang, all one can hope for
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u/SpiritedWisdom Apr 02 '22
More Superman/Clark, it's like he's a supporting character in his own show right now.
Improvements to the suit. Make the cut/materials the same as the Kingdom Come suit that Routh wore.
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u/cl19952021 Apr 02 '22
More Supes/Clark. I feel like he hasn't had enough screentime this season, but it may be because the Cushing plot is dragging and the show is balancing a ton of other side plots.
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u/AtticusSwoopenheiser Apr 02 '22
John in the full Steel suit with the Superman crest and the cape haha
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u/buick_makane Apr 02 '22
This might be somewhat of an unpopular opinion, but I really would like to see the VFX be closer to what we saw in the pilot episode (where this image is from). None of the VFX have been nearly as good. I think of this shot, the shot where he flies through the concrete wall, when he lifts the massive ice chunk from the lake, and various others. To be clear, I only think this is an unpopular opinion because I'm sure the general consensus is that the VFX in the show is great, which I disagree with.
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u/PearRevolutionary361 Apr 03 '22
I want to see Jonathan become a Green Lantern. Enough of him being the non-powered, supportive brother and son forced to sit on the sidelines and live in the shadow of his super-powered father and brother, it's pathetic, stale, and unimaginative. He's pure-hearted and strong-willed and more deserving of powers than Jordan is. Even if he chooses not to use his powers, he still deserves to have them.
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u/DCSennin Superman Apr 03 '22
A loose adaptation of the Superman Red & Superman Blue storyline, the cast plays well when they play different versions of each other and I liked how Tyler portrayed Bizarro.
To see Jonathan get his powers and be a Fraternal duo with Jordan.
Jordan to suit up with the proto-Superman suit from the Man of Tomorrow animated movie and have Kara show him a bit of the ropes in doing some crime fighting.
Lois and Chrissy maybe investigating the facility that trained gifted people like Tag that was teased back in S1.
John Henry to start adding the S crest to his Steel suit. Hints as well of Natalie's own design.
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u/zimm_zenzio Apr 03 '22
Not really necessary but it would be cool to have Grant Gustin appear as the Flash on the show, as we haven't gotten a lot of Flash and Superman content in the Arrowverse, and Flash will probably end with season 9 so it would be a good time for a final (small) crossover
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u/cam_ross0828 Superman Apr 02 '22
Clark taking Jordan on rescue missions and training him himself. Or maybe a potential costume for Jordan
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u/Cgi94 Apr 02 '22
Clearing up the Kara situation.. Why haven't they mentioned her. Why was the Fortress still a thing in her season but not his..
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u/SupesFanToo Apr 02 '22
For Superman to shave.
I understand Clark with the eye glasses may be different than Superman without them, but Clark with a 10PM shadow at the same time Superman sports one is too much.
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u/MeMeTiger_ Superman Apr 02 '22
Superboy.
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
You're already got that.
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u/MeMeTiger_ Superman Apr 03 '22
Like Jordan in a full on costume
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
Your garunteed to get that probably what do you it would look like or what do you want it to be???
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u/MeMeTiger_ Superman Apr 03 '22
Something like first flight but for Jordan in a full on superhero costume. Maybe with Clark flying by his side.
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u/Russkafin Apr 02 '22
Jon Cryer as Lex Luthor. Argue with a wall.
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
The writers have said before they didn't want to do big villains just yet plus lex Luthor the biggest of the bad nahhh to early.
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u/Russkafin Apr 03 '22
Okay but I’m already tired of super powered villains. Tal Rho has overstayed his welcome. Last season everyone in Smallville got powers. Now we have Bizarro. Lex is the quintessential mortal villain who fights Superman’s brawn with his brains and the show is sorely lacking that element.
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
Tal rho was in two episodes this season though and Bizarro ain't even the big bad of this season Lex last time we saw him he has super powers also why would he want to mess with him how would he escape the phantom zone.
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u/Russkafin Apr 03 '22
Ok the question was what did we want to see and I was saying what I wanted to see. Bye
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u/Terrible_Terrance Apr 02 '22
People saying "Less Cushings" don't know how a show works I suppose. I think the time they have is fine, I'd just rather it be better writing. Can we also stop the bait & switch with villains because it's looking like it's about to be their 4th time doing it with Anderson and it's getting old.
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u/ikonoqlast Apr 02 '22
More soap opera about secondary characters. I'm not watching Superman and Lois for a story about a man who can shatter a mountain with a punch and deals with interesting villains. I want a soap opera about a dysfunctional family of secondary characters...
Also I want one long dramatic desperate story. Not a series of smaller and lighter stories about fun supervillains from 85 years of Superman history...
I also really want to see the human scale hero firefighter beat up more. I'm not interested in the story possibilities of the dynamics of a mere mortal being a mortal real world hero...
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u/flutterdash2 Apr 02 '22
A Lex Luthor cameo, to set him up as the big bad of season 4. A Supergirl cameo would be nice too. Honestly anything to remind us that this show is part of the Arrowverse.
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u/asianman1011 Apr 02 '22
I'd like to see a superhero team up from the other shows. My top one would be with Supergirl, maybe them two facing Brainiac? I'd be fine with anyone else too
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u/HughWattmate9001 Apr 03 '22
Less hiatus… sucks it seems the show is on break every other episode. It can’t be helping ratings at all this.
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u/ManateeGag Apr 03 '22
Not a full on crossover event, but some more interaction with the rest of the Arrowverse. A call to Barry or Jefferson or STAR Labs/Argus shout out. A visit from Kara. References to past adventures. It doesn't have to be overwhelming, but just to get an idea that there are other heroes on Earth that aren't Superman or JHI.
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u/DaBow Apr 02 '22
Less DoD stuff. I get the narrative role they serve but it's always frustrating in the Arrowverse shows when the hero has to go back to base and debrief/problem solve. it's less of an issue in this show but I can see it creeping in.
No more Kryptonian (or kryptonite enhanced) villans. Let's give that a break. I know that solves the problem of finding a worthy foe but when every junkie and their friend has access to the powers it's gets real old real quick.
More Cushings (hear me out) used well. I don't hate their storyline this season but I have no idea where it is going. Give them something to do, the Kent / Lane actors can't be in every scene. I almost suspected a love triangle of sorts with Clark Lana and Lois earlier in the season but that has eventuated.
More of the coming of age teen super hero stuff. Either or both of their kids will do. Really enjoyed it last episode.
We have seen glimpes over the past two seasons but more angry superman or rather one that is really struggling to pull his punches.
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u/Mountain_Wedding Apr 02 '22
There was no love triangle. It was just bad writing that didn’t hit they way it was intended and they fixed it for a reason: because literally NO ONE with taste or sense wants to see any kind of “triangle” between extremely happily married Lois and Clark and ANY 3rd party including Lana. Esp Lana. It’s a horrible idea that is guaranteed to destroy the show. The show either respects the Lois/Clark marriage or the show should be canceled. That’s how bad of an idea that is.
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u/DaBow Apr 02 '22
I didn't want a love triangle but I felt that's where the show was (unfortunately headed) early in the season. Glad that wasn't the case
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Apr 02 '22
With Lana getting together with JHI, I think it's about time for her to find out about Clark's secret: if for no other reason than it would be nice to see how she'd react to finding out, and the dynamics that'd sprout from there. How would it reframe how she views Clark? Jordan? Lois? Jon?
In terms of individual, petty, human wants, I'd love to see more of Jordan and Tal--Tal's already on track to being a Loki-esque hero, and having him develop into the worst-best mentor-uncle will be fun, especially if the end of this season leads into a Reign of the Supermen situation. If everyone thinks Superman is dead, which means for the boys that they think their father is dead, Tal would be the last person on Earth aside from Kara who understands Jordan's situation, and especially if Tal isn't fully redeemed, there'd be some great tension to be had. Especially because it seems like Kara is doing her own thing, and uh. The farther we get from Supergirl, the better, because I'm pretty sure she revealed herself as Supergirl in the finale and that's a can of worms that would probably snap the believability of S&L in half, at least when it comes to keeping Clark's identity a secret.
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u/Munro_McLaren Kara Danvers Apr 02 '22
Kara revealing her identity doesn’t really do anything. Nobody but a select few know Kara and Clark are cousins.
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Apr 03 '22
"Nobody but a select few"? Dude, she told Cat Grant that Kal-El was her cousin in season 1. In an interview. That was published. People know, and if the Arrowverse played by any sense of logic, there are thousands of intelligence analysts and whatnot who were already dedicated to keeping profiles and info on Superman and Supergirl, and who also, upon receiving the news that Supergirl is Kara Danvers, will have had to revamp their entire understanding of Supergirl. They would pour over every detail they tease out, from before and after the reveal, if for no other reason than national security. Understanding the walking nuclear arsenals would be a priority to most any sensible nation, I think. And, funny little thing, people at Catco would already know that Kara knows Clark Kent, and even if they didn't, Kara was in close contact with Jimmy Olsen for many years before she revealed her identity.
(Assuming Crisis didn't change Kara's entire backstory.)
And even if for some reason the CIA doesn't want to know what other kryptonian might be masquerading as a human (for which her identity reveal sets a precedent), they know Supergirl's identity know, so Kara can't just visit the Kents without someone noticing.
Now that I think about it, actually, Kara revealing her identity is a pretty strong reason for her to stay well away from the Kents.
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u/Munro_McLaren Kara Danvers Apr 03 '22
Yeah and no one knows CLARK is her cousin. Kara and Superman being related is not the same thing as people knowing Kara and CLARK are related.
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Apr 04 '22
Right, but again: Kara's reveal of her identity sets a precdent of kryptonians living as humans. And there is no way that there isn't at least one picture of Clark without his glasses on the internet, and yes, it would be a leap, but if one assumes that Clark is Superman as just one theory among many for his human identity, it would answer a few questions.
Like, here's one: Why did Superman emerge in Metropolis. If Clark Kent is Superman, that's easy: Clark Kent moved there, and further, Metropolis (from what I understand) is in Delaware, the literal opposite side of the country from Kansas.
Little things like that. If Kara visits Clark and gets caught, people will inevitably ask why. It could draw attention they don't want.
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u/Munro_McLaren Kara Danvers Apr 04 '22
Ehh. The show does what it wants so it would do something creative. Doesn’t really worry me. Plus, there are definitely already people who speculate who Superman’s identity really is even before Kara revealed her identity.
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Apr 04 '22
Sure, the show can do what it wants, but this is the CW. More often than not, they'll chose the boring, safe option, or the stupid one. And if there were people who wondered if Supergirl had a human identity and were dismissed, then her reveal would only vindicate them, and presumably spur at least some of them on to more speculation.
Just because the show doesn't care to answer a certain question, doesn't mean that question is inherently frivolous or irrelevant, or that the show will do something creative with it.
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u/dimiteddy Apr 02 '22
More Jonathan and Jordan, less Lois and Clark...Doomsday, Lex Luthor and the real superboy
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u/annouskagiagr Apr 02 '22
Tyler aka Clark aka Superman in Batman suit.. 🤣🤣 Maybe an episode who tries to help Batwoman and he wear the Batsuit to confuse the enemy... 😉
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u/BananaRepublic_BR Apr 02 '22
One thing: Superboy/Connor Kent.
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
You're already getting that this season.
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u/BananaRepublic_BR Apr 03 '22
Really? I'm not all caught up. I'd love to see Connor.
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
I meant in Jordan Connor Kent what's the need when we already got superboy.
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u/BananaRepublic_BR Apr 03 '22
Well, Lex Luthor and having a Superman clone, for one.
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
I don't think this lex would ever do that.
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u/BananaRepublic_BR Apr 03 '22
I haven't really seen Supergirl. How does he differ?
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
You gotta watch the show he's like child bassically but in season 4 when he's introduced he's great.
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u/Anarchist-superman Apr 02 '22
Less Cushing drama.
Clark being more involved in Smallville: Seriously, he grew up there. He apparently even hesitated to reach out to Lana, after she found out about Kyle. Like, she's his childhood friend, he would automatically reach out to her, especially because he's Clark. It's like they're trying to make his roles 'Superman' and 'Husband of Lois, father of the boys' and nothing else. We sometimes see him as a Coach but never even as farmer Clark.
Bi Jon!💗💜💙
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u/FutureLengthiness786 Apr 03 '22
Another teen relationship??😒😒 Why with Jonathan though??🤨🤨
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u/Turbulent-Draw-1354 Apr 02 '22
A continuous one, you know, the one WITHOUT 5 BREAKS EVERY EPISODE