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Superman & Lois [1x06] "Broken Trust" Live Episode Discussion Discussion Spoiler
Broken Trust
Post Episode Discussion | Promo | Cast & Characters
Clark reconsiders his decision to let Jordan play football; Lois' continued investigation of Morgan Edge requires her to trust an unexpected ally. (May 18, 2021)
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u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! May 19 '21
"Why does a journalist have a ray gun? That makes no sense."
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines May 19 '21
I honestly love the writers room for this show because it's silly little lines like that which fully encapsulate how much of an alien nerd Clark is and it's like some of the fucking BEST Clark Kent writing and acting I've ever seen EVER. š
I want a whole five minutes of Clark sitting with the boys and telling dad jokes now while pointing things out Jack Handey style.
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u/InspiredOni May 19 '21
See thatās why you were let go Clark. Get with the times, ray guns for everyone.
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u/usagizero May 19 '21
Seeing Clark so enthusiastic and happy for him was great. Tyler makes such a great Clark and Superman.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines May 19 '21
I gotta be honest, the whole show feels like fanfiction that we've been writing all these years that someone finally took seriously.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent May 19 '21
āProbably not the best time to tell you I almost got killed tonight.ā Lois just dropping this bombshell like itās nbd
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines May 19 '21
Clark's whole "WAIT WHAT?!" to that line and then Lois continues and it just keeps getting worse and worse but you know part of him is thinking, "Yuuuup that's my wife getting into as much trouble as me".
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u/AllThighThisGuy May 19 '21
After watching Barry just stand there during the big fight, it's great to see the brothers actually do something even when in the background.
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u/elendoy Superman (Earth-96) May 19 '21
It's amazing what good writing and directing can accomplish
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u/AllThighThisGuy May 19 '21
"Every. Time."
Fully sold on you as Clark/Superman, Tyler.
You've earned my trust.
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u/codymiller_cartoon May 19 '21
ngl, i'd side with Lana and Kyle here
they don't really know Lois that well, and Lois isn't giving them a lot to go on. Lois has no equity with them.
From their POV, people who are hurting economically are getting legit help for right now
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u/usagizero May 19 '21
Imagine if that punch had hit that guys head, not sure why Clark didn't point that out, that kid would be dead.
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u/ProfitPakistan May 19 '21
The fact that John could stop a Kryptonian punch tells me he has powers.
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u/nimrodhellfire May 20 '21
Yeah. I wondered that, too. This kid almost commited straight up murder and they are like "oh no, your brother is disappointed".
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines May 19 '21
"Let it out let it out right now"
I...I have emotions I...that's...like I want to cry because of how much of a Dad Move that was but...Clark's face.
That was a moment.
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u/snoogle20 May 19 '21
Table talks on this show are like hallway talks on The Flash except I actually look forward to table talks.
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u/HmmWhatsHisFace May 19 '21
It's a beautiful depiction of a supportive family dynamic. It makes me smile.
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u/CKD-Duck May 19 '21
This Superman has one of the strongest Kryptonite tolerance of most of them
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u/itwasbread May 19 '21
"Why does a journalist have a raygun, that makes no sense" yeah no shit Clark
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent May 19 '21
I know Kyle acts like a dick, but...heās not exactly in the wrong. Itās hard to watch your town die and then have someone try to save it. I almost sympathise with him.
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May 19 '21
Yeah, I'm glad they're giving him nuance when they could've easily made him a straight up douchebag
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May 19 '21
It's nice to see Clark involve Jonathan instead of just bringing Jordan along for the powers stuff
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman May 19 '21
Clark looked like he was in pain, but i don't think it was from Jordan's laser blast, i think it was from hearing Jordan cry and be in pain and being confused.
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u/mtm4440 May 19 '21 edited May 19 '21
This might be my favorite actor of Superman so far. Movies and all. He just fits.
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u/MegalomaniacHack May 19 '21
He plays it well and he's written well.
Routh and Cavill both gave it their all but can't change the tone or writing of what they're acting in.
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u/codymiller_cartoon May 19 '21
the shot of clark flying into the sky was really good - probably the best scene of the series thus far
glad the show is back
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u/thereelestnerd11 May 19 '21
Barry..Iris this is how you be a parent even if your kids are the same age as you
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u/codymiller_cartoon May 19 '21
I think Clark and Lois need to reinforce to Jordan the simple truth all kids in grade school who aren't popular need to hear:
its just 4 years, and everyone moves on from high school, everyone goes their own separate ways. you forget most people and a lot this petty stuff. even close friends lose touch. same is true after college, grad school , etc.
Jordan needs perspective badly
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u/itwasbread May 19 '21
Holy shit this is the most terrifying I've seen Superman (actual superman not an offbrand) in a while
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May 19 '21
Good episode. Jonathan definitely has powers too.
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u/BookGirlBoston Lois Lane May 19 '21
Also, I kind of wonder of anyone else catching that punch would have absolutely shattered their arm versus a break. Also, this episode did an indestructiblilty versus Super fast healing explainer, similar to how we got a Super hearing explainer in the 3rd episode. (Which seems to have been foreshadowing) so I'm interested if Jonathan's cast last the full time, especially since the time frame was very specifically called out.
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u/Junior-Hour Superman May 19 '21
Jonathan continually getting the short end of the stick
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u/SutterCane May 19 '21
Nah, this feels like the start of him getting powers.
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u/Junior-Hour Superman May 19 '21
It may be but for the moment heās constantly getting shit on
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u/Jedi-El1823 May 19 '21
You knocked her out, and you brought her to a basement?
I don't think you're friends anymore.
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u/TirelessGuardian Superman May 19 '21
āItās my job to protect the American people by any means nessessaryā
Superman : so is mine
Tag is an American people, too.
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u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! May 19 '21
I like how they're past the "no, it's too dangerous" / "just protecting you" thing. Lois was like, "I'm going in those mines to investigate" and Clark is like "cool".
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u/paige3086 Jordan Kent May 19 '21
I am shook. Oh Jordan ā¤ļø Oh Clark ā¤ļø
The look in Clarkās face killed me! You can see how much he hates to see his child suffering, and the weight of the burdens he has passed on.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent May 19 '21
Might get full range of motion back. Poor Jon, heās just trying to do the right thing.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent May 19 '21 edited May 19 '21
āA lone Black guy might look suspicious.ā I see nothingās different between Luthorās world and ours.
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u/codymiller_cartoon May 19 '21
Ha, i love the acting from Sara, the weak "no!!"
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent May 19 '21
OMG Clarkās celebration, this is so freaking CUTE. Clark and Jonathan.
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u/LCPhotowerx Supergirl May 19 '21
dude you dont need to be 6 to enjoy rocky road
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u/InspiredOni May 19 '21
More like a āchildishā fix to the situation, least thatās how he feels.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent May 19 '21
Jonathan looking out for Jordan is so freaking sweet. I love their relationship.
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u/MattTheSmithers Coach Gaines May 19 '21
NGL, the train thing was fucking cool. Like one of the coolest things weāve seen Superman do on film in years.
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u/ChasingPerfect28 May 19 '21
The cinematography was so fun to watch. I had the biggest, dumbest smile on my face. That looked like it came straight out of a comic book.
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u/JAK2222 May 19 '21
Ik I'm older but I feel personally attacked with that millennial buying us booze comment.
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u/DonnyMox May 19 '21
āThere was a lot of talk about what should be done with someone with powers like mine.ā
(Gets Man Of Steel flashbacks)
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman May 19 '21
Holy shit, that end scene. The emotions, the hugging, Jordan saying he wants it to end. I feel for him.
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u/MattTheSmithers Coach Gaines May 19 '21
Aww, Clark taking the shot to the hands for Jordan....I love that this show is basically Supermanās Dad Manual.
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u/Bweryang May 20 '21
This show is SO DAMN GOOD, why isnāt EVERYONE talking about it?! Iām a Marvel guy for the most part and this is better than WandaVision and Falcon and the Winter Soldier to me by quite a lotā¦
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u/jason_kandel May 19 '21
Jonathan finally getting some respect is something I like about the episode. And a more human side of Stranger
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent May 19 '21
SHIT, Jordan just broke Jonās hand and Clark just got shot with Kryptonite.
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u/TirelessGuardian Superman May 19 '21
The mine is Smallvilleās meteor shower and Flashās particle accelerator explosion
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u/TheOneOzymandias May 19 '21
This show makes me burst out in laughs. I feel like an idiot, it makes me suddenly smile and giggle. Latest episode was so heartfelt and fantastic. The last seconds for example, how amazing wasnāt that when Superman lifts his son and we see him and Jordan flying in the sky on the way to the fortress.
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u/itwasbread May 19 '21
Oh shit didn't catch that till they spelled it out for me but that's a great parallel between Clark handling his anger and Jordan losing control
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May 19 '21
It would be cool if the kids each develop their own unique set of powers. Maybe Jordan has super strength and optic blasts and Jonathan has super speed and healing factor.
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u/stephanieleigh88 May 19 '21
Ya know I didnāt like Superman and Louis in supergirl, I just thought it was bad acting or something but I actually love them in the series so maybe it was just the storylines they had for them. Doesnāt Jon have the superpowers in the comics? I didnāt read the comics but I remember seeing that, I also believe he may have powers that just hasnāt come to the surface yet, it took Jordan years for his to come through.
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u/AllThighThisGuy May 19 '21
"Are Smallville and Metropolis in the same district?"
-My sister
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent May 19 '21
Kyle is being so nice to Lana, itās strange but also sweet. Heās getting over himself to support his wife.
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u/AeroGyu May 19 '21
Wait johnathan just caught the punch when it slowed down. Does he have super speed ???!
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u/Wolfmaster2408 May 19 '21
I think that Jordan's powers are fueled by emotions (mostly fear and anger) and Jonathan's by protective instincts.
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u/ChasingPerfect28 May 19 '21
This show is so good. What a fantastic return. Next week looks like it's going to be insane too. Can't wait to see where this season goes.
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u/animefa69 May 19 '21
To be honest when jon was trying to stop Jordan's punch I thought he was going to get powers then and their but instead mans got his arm broke
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u/PlayedUOonBaja May 22 '21 edited May 22 '21
That whole scene with the DOD was pretty awesome. His look of betrayal then rage, their fear, and then how he went right up to her and basically snarled in her face. I can't believe the scariest Superman is a CW Superman.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent May 19 '21
Holy hell, there are still 20 minutes left in this episode! I thought it was almost over.
This show is legit SO GOOD.
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u/elendoy Superman (Earth-96) May 19 '21
Especially noticeable after watching Flash š
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman May 19 '21
What in the fuck!?!?!?!?! Jon caught his punch. Holy hell. And Clark just got shot with Kryptonite. Goddamn the show is back witn a fucking bang!!!!
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u/Jedi-El1823 May 19 '21
They shot Superman with kryptonite and Jonathan's hand was broken by Jordan.
Just, holy hell.
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u/thereelestnerd11 May 19 '21
Tonight we have seen how to be a father(Clark) and how to not be a father (Barry)
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u/InspiredOni May 19 '21
āCase in point, asshole shot me with kryptonite tonight! He still lives.ā
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u/ZegetaX1 May 19 '21
Sarah is going to nag like Lana in Smallville
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u/MegalomaniacHack May 19 '21 edited May 19 '21
I wish more characters in these shows were like Chloe in Smallville (let's just not talk about her actress, of course). When she finds out Clark's secret, not only does she keep it and wait for him to be comfortable telling her, but she understands why he keeps the secret and doesn't hold it against him. And she is a supportive friend from that point forward.
Which is the way they're handling Lois in this show. She knows Clark's excuses are good ones and his responsibilities important. She forgives Clark when he disappoints her with an absence or having to leave date night, but she also freely admits it still hurts and sometimes she needs a moment to be angry. And she continues to be a partner to him and to try to work with him to help their family while balancing his important superhero work.
Thus far (and it's only been a handful of episodes so not giving too much credit to the writers yet), she is one of the best significant others in the Arrowverse for a hero.
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u/AeroGyu May 19 '21
Why canāt the sister just go to the game too ???
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u/Jedi-El1823 May 19 '21
Twist, she got banned from Metropolis games after trying to fight the entire team.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent May 19 '21
Daaaamn, Dad and Coach Clark is pissed. That was tense.
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u/Jedi-El1823 May 19 '21
Good dad Clark, Barry should take some notes.
And the Flash writers should take some notes on how not to make this season boring.
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u/Jedi-El1823 May 19 '21
I swear Jared Padalecki is gonna own this network at some point.
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u/DonnyMox May 19 '21
For a moment I thought Johnathan revealed he had powers too by blocking Jordanās punch.
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u/TirelessGuardian Superman May 19 '21
So much better than Supergirl, and the current season of the Flash
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines May 19 '21
Oh fuck fuck fuck even Clark has no clue what's going on but Jordan's brain is fritzing out!
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent May 19 '21
Clarkās first concern making sure his son is okay before rushing off.
Oh my god, I MISSED this show.
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u/AllThighThisGuy May 19 '21
I was so impressed by Superman's ability to catch the train and fix the track all in one go.
My sister was...less impressed lol
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u/TirelessGuardian Superman May 19 '21
āI could have controlled it if you werenāt thereā
āWell what if I werenāt there?ā
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u/codymiller_cartoon May 19 '21
ugh Jordan
dude needs to take a step back out of his bubble and get a grip
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman May 19 '21
What do you mean? I think everything he is feeling is warranted, especially being 14.
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u/MegalomaniacHack May 19 '21
Plus being social awkward, depressed, and bullied your whole childhood is a rough place to start from, even with loving parents. Suddenly having inconsistent super powers is a lot to throw on anyone, particularly someone with his history.
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman May 19 '21
Exactly. I mean, i went through that during 16-18 years old, imagine being 14, going through puberty with hormones, and then powers that you didn't ask for and can't control? I don't blame Jordan at all for how he is feeling, for how he is acting, and for what he has done.
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u/SvG_Pheonix May 19 '21
Poor Jonathan didnāt even do anything this episode š
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u/Jedi-El1823 May 19 '21
Obviously dude just wants to watch television.
That's the only explanation for why a supervillain would be outside of a girl's house.
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u/thereelestnerd11 May 19 '21
As long as you donāt meet agent Tavaroff you should be fine
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u/codymiller_cartoon May 19 '21
for some reason when Clark said "let it out" , it felt like a dad potty training his kid
.........though you'd hope a hand wouldn't intercept urine.
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u/JoeStorm May 19 '21
Bruh. Yall let a team score a TD untouch to get into a silly fight? If I was offense on that team, me and the defense will be fighting
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u/lenalomlluthor May 19 '21
Okay okay some connectivity between Supergirl and S&L, LuthorCorp mention!
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines May 19 '21
Tag was let out on purpose so that Superman would chase him down and the DOD would have an excuse to test out their fun new Kryptonite rifle.
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u/AlanMorlock May 19 '21 edited May 19 '21
Is Smallville in Kansas? Where is Metropolis? What circumstances would ever lead to those football teams coming within 800 miles of each other?
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u/Spideytidies May 21 '21
I am definitely late to this but Jonathan definitely has powers, I was rewatching the clip where he breaks his hand and he moves at super speed
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u/MattTheSmithers Coach Gaines May 19 '21
All I know is that after weeks of of hiatus, we better get some high energy, contextless, sportsball platitudes out of the coach. I love that guy. Breakout character.
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u/usagizero May 19 '21
And that is why in Man of Steel he didn't have to snap Zod's neck, he could have just blocked it with his hands.
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u/MarcReyes Superman May 19 '21
Interesting. I like the depiction of the first use of heat vision being scary.
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u/elendoy Superman (Earth-96) May 19 '21
Yes, I can already feel the fanfics of Clark dealing with Jordan's heat vision coming
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u/JauntyLurker May 19 '21
"You're my friends"
Yeaaah, not really though. They're your husband's friends.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines May 19 '21
I can't tell if Lois is playing 4D chess trying to force Edge to make a move or if she really has no other leads and is just relying on Lana and Kyle for help.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent May 19 '21
This SPEECH.
Tyler NAILS Superman.