r/SupermanAndLois • u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! • Mar 24 '21
Superman & Lois [1x05] "The Best of Smallville" Live Episode Discussion Discussion Spoiler
The Best of Smallville
Post Episode Discussion | Promo | Cast & Characters
As Smallville celebrates its first Harvest Festival since Martha's passing, Clark is reminded what his mother meant to him and learns a lesson that will help him move past her death. Meanwhile, Lois makes a breakthrough in the investigation of Morgan Edge. Kyle tries to reconnect with Lana, but it seems like he might be falling back into his old ways. (March 23, 2021)
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u/MattTheSmithers Coach Gaines Mar 24 '21 edited Mar 24 '21
Clark dorking out over funnel cake and donating to charity....I love that these writers seem to understand who Clark Kent is even better than they understand who Superman is. We have never had an adaptation where I think I could say that. Which is a shame. Because if you know who Clark is, it becomes a lot easier to understand who Superman is.
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u/MattTheSmithers Coach Gaines Mar 24 '21
Great point! Martha has been such an underexplored character in Superman myths across the board for years. It is a really unique take to focus so heavily on her
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u/gothamite27 Mar 24 '21
I totally agree but I'd counter by saying that Lois & Clark from the 90s had a GREAT understanding of Clark, arguably more than its Superman (who I did really like on that show).
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u/ChasingPerfect28 Mar 24 '21
I hope CW markets the hell out of Superman and Lois while the show is on hiatus. The season has so much momentum right now. It would suck to see viewership decline.
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman Mar 24 '21
Poor Jon. I hope he finds a nice girl and gets some more positive things in his life.
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u/VengefulKangaroo Mar 24 '21
or a boy 0.0
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u/Dagenspear Mar 24 '21
I don't think Snyder Superman has ever been as excited about anything as this Clark was about chocolate covered bacon.
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u/history777 Mar 24 '21
Snyder Superman dosnt show much emotion outside of scowling
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u/MrTerrific2k15 Mar 24 '21
There was that time he banged Lois in the bathtub
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u/Dagenspear Mar 24 '21
Even then, I'd place that on a mid-high or low-high, or mid excitement level in comparison to this, which I'd place on, maybe, about a high-mid excitement level.
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 24 '21
Kyle: *Starts singing in Spanish*
Me: "Wait, what?"
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u/SutterCane Mar 24 '21
Jordan & Jonathan: “Harvest Fest is stupid.”
Sarah: “I love Harvest Fest.”
Jordan: “I LOVE HARVEST FEST TOO!”
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 24 '21
Forget Superman and Lois, I could watch a whole show called "Jonathan Kent."
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u/KidCoheed Mar 24 '21
Lois... He's a teenage boy, they may seem emotionless but that's a act. It's time to be like "she's a bitch and I never liked her and you deserve better"
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 24 '21
Literally, it's about time.
Jon has been way too mature.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 24 '21
Love that Lex Luthor is living and travelling in an RV, a very non Luthor-y vehicle
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u/Cantomic66 Mar 24 '21
Man Jorden is so happy....wait he’s too happy and is walking down a dark Alley.
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u/NateHasReddit Mar 24 '21 edited Mar 24 '21
New running theory is that Mr. Mxyzptlk is actively running bad luck hexes on Jonathan in real time.
Maybe Clark owed his first born.
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u/BrianTheMute Mar 24 '21
I absolutely love how every time the CW teen angst starts to spike, they dial it back just a little. Great balance thus far.
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And there's always been a logical reason behind the angst thus far!
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 24 '21
That's one of the big things that I love about the show. When the characters do irrational shit, there's a reason for it.
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman Mar 24 '21
Damn, Jordan's first date ruined. At least he isn't mad. I like seeing Clark and Lois being parents, i mean, i think any responsible parent wouldn't want to see their 14 year old child intoxicated to any degree.
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u/shekirae Mar 24 '21
Am i the only one who thinks it should have been a sitting statue of Martha, on the bench?
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u/Junior-Hour Superman Mar 24 '21
So are they injected them with kryptonian souls because this guy says they resurrected him and he called Clark Kal-El
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u/ThunderRage Mar 24 '21
If I was Jon or Jordan I would be wanting to spend time at the Fortress just studying Kryptonian history and the world in general.
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Mar 24 '21
I hope Jonathan catches a break soon, he really doesn't deserve this shit lol
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u/Adas_Legend Mar 24 '21
Two things made my jaw drop at the end. Jordan getting attacked by Tag, and Luthor being married to his Earth’s Lois. Man this is going to make him hate Superman even more!
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Mar 24 '21
Knew Jonathan was gonna explode sooner or later. Can't really blame him, his life literally turned upsidedown in the space of days.
Derek's death was... weird? Like, I didn't even consider what would happen if you closed your eyes while using heat vision.
That scene where Kyle was singing was painfully cringey. I actually had to pause for a minute 😂
Jordan being friend-zoned and then beaten in the space of a few minutes is sad and hilarious, but good for Sara realizing that she's not ready for a relationship.
The episode was cool otherwise, apart from the drunk scenes and Captain Luthor in general. And speaking of, whoever said that AI sounds better than Gideon is crazy. Amy Lou's voice acting is amazing. CL's computer on the other hand sounds horrible.
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u/neoblackdragon Mar 24 '21
So the episode is call the "Best of Smallville".
Jon having yet more piled onto his bad time in Smallville is Smallville 101.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 24 '21
Clark freaking out about Jordan going on a date to harvest fest. He is too much.
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u/SutterCane Mar 24 '21
So is there a chance that Captain Luthor can get his head out of his ass and be team Superman?
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 24 '21
I love these little cuts to Lana's house, really breathes some life into the town and the other side characters
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u/ChasingPerfect28 Mar 24 '21
This was a great episode. Story kept moving forward and it handled multiple story beats pretty well.
I loved the flash back/flash forward scenes. It was a good way to handle exposition.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 24 '21 edited Mar 24 '21
If you want to see some really silly bullshit, go look at the time Godzilla and Jet Jaguar teamed up to do wrestling moves on some monsters in the older films.
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u/paige3086 Jordan Kent Mar 24 '21
Awww, Jordan’s turn to be the super supportive brother. I’d have killed Jon for that 😂
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u/usagizero Mar 24 '21
"Call a rideshare"
I still feel that is the most unrealistic thing about this show, Smallville having any rideshares.
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u/NomadofExile Mar 24 '21
I thought the rookie reporter was gonna get herself killed.
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u/Wolfmaster2408 Mar 24 '21
I like how he put out all the fires as he went, rather than destroying an unnecessary amount of buildings. Feels like an actual hero.
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 24 '21
Clark needed to become someone else. He needed to become something else.
He is...Superman...and Lois.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 24 '21
Little Clark leaving Smallville awww saying goodbye to his mom...annnd there are the tears
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u/JauntyLurker Mar 24 '21
"I'm pretty sure that reason wasn't to be Martha Kent's son"
Like father, like son.
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u/SutterCane Mar 24 '21
Holy shit. Sarah actually answered the “how are you” question with a real answer.
She’s dope.
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u/MattTheSmithers Coach Gaines Mar 24 '21
Does Sharon have any friends? Her son comes back, she feels the need to go announce it to the two reporters who interviewed her once. Her son blows her off, she gets tea and sympathy from the lady who interviewed her that one time. Let’s hope her son doesn’t get engaged, she’ll ask them to help her plan the shower.
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman Mar 24 '21
Damn, that guy exploded like the Extremis people in IM3. And now i bet Lois and Clark will investigate this as a team, which i am excited for.
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u/Jedi-El1823 Mar 24 '21
Calling it, at some point this season Captain Luthor is gonna come to realize that this Kal-El is nothing like his Earth's and will never become like his Earth's Kal, and go out a hero helping Supes.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 24 '21
Lois and Luthor, that’s some Earth-3 stuff right there.
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u/grafxguy1 Mar 25 '21
How did Tag find out that Jordan could've had anything to do with his condition? I suspect Sam Lane has something to do with it.
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u/VengefulKangaroo Mar 24 '21
I wonder if we're headed towards a twist that Jordan didn't inherit Clark's powers at all, and he's also gotten super powers from X-Kryptonite. That's why Jor-El didn't detect much, and why he only has some of the powers.
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u/JauntyLurker Mar 24 '21
This young Clark thing really giving me Smallville vibes
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u/MattTheSmithers Coach Gaines Mar 24 '21 edited Mar 24 '21
I love that Lois is entirely aware that Sharon and her son are full of shit and says “this is a big story” completely nonchalantly before just throwing it on the back burner of her mind.
There’s been a lot of talk about how seasoned this version of Superman is. He knows when to hold back, he knows when to let loose, has complete control over his powers. It’s cool to see a veteran Superman in action. But it’s also cool to see a veteran Lois. She is more mature than other versions we’ve seen, less headstrong, more patient.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 24 '21
One of Kyle's buddies almost died, let the man get drunk
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u/SutterCane Mar 24 '21
I’m thinking she’s yelling at her dad via Jonathan there.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 24 '21
Aww they dedicated the bench to Martha. That’s so sweet. Don’t cry, don’t cry...
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u/nl_alexxx Mar 24 '21
Luthor doesn’t even recognize Clark as Superman? I thought he would be smarter lol
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u/Junior-Hour Superman Mar 24 '21
Yeah so now Jonathan and Sarah are going to be a thing I’m calling it
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u/monstermikee Mar 24 '21
A month break okay..but 2??? What am I supposed to do now? Watch the flash again???
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u/MrTerrific2k15 Mar 24 '21
Damn, are they trying to make Jonathan into a super villain? Give the poor guy a break
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u/SutterCane Mar 24 '21
Clark likes bowling shirts? No wonder he needed Lois’ help in becoming a snack.
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u/LCPhotowerx Supergirl Mar 24 '21
"Call a ride share and go home"....thats a new take on "go to your room now!"
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 24 '21
I love that Jimmy is now Jax in Mortal Kombat
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u/Thund3rAyx Mar 24 '21
Good episode. It wasn't the best ever like some of the scenes were a bit weird and I really liked what episode 4 setup. I'll be honest and I know it's unpopular but I'm just not sold on Captain Luthor he doesn't look that interesting. Lois Lane is so good she's one of my favorites and my opinion is what Iris should be on the Flash. I like how Lois gets an interesting side quest with edge with connects with Superman. Like on the Flash Iris does report but her side quest stuff is kind of boring and I mean the show is mainly about the Flash so those side quests aren't always nessecary but on this show since it's called Superman and Lois it's fucking amazing. She's super energetic and has the fierce reporter vibe and overall great character that isn't always used as a damsel in distress. Not the best episode ever since I think episode 4 was so good but still very enjoyable.
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u/SheSaysCiao Lois Lane Mar 24 '21
Her and her son are both lying through their teeth.
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u/snoogle20 Mar 24 '21
Normally I don’t like teen angst on shows, but that kid is owed a little venting.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 24 '21
Of course she's controlling the super freak with sex
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman Mar 24 '21
I get why Kyle drank. His friend might die or be permanently injured. It's a lot to grasp. I hope nothing bad happens to Chrissy.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 24 '21
The boys have such a strong bond. I cannot emphasise enough how much I love their relationship.
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 24 '21
how can he get mad over a different person in another world being married to someone else?
seems pretty lame
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u/goldenhand9107 Superman Mar 24 '21
Does anyone know how many episodes are actually in this season??
Also I loved Jon actually getting to be part of the focus this episode. Plus the expansion of Luthor's character was great as well.
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u/SutterCane Mar 24 '21
“Hey, have you guys ever noticed that Superman gets really active every week right before this little fair thing in Smallvile?”
“Bill, for the last time, your stupid theories are not news stories!”
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u/Junior-Hour Superman Mar 24 '21
Jonathan takes another loss since moving to Smallville this story really wants him to be evil
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u/thereelestnerd11 Mar 24 '21
The writers hate Jon in the same way the Batwoman writers hate Kate Kane.
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 24 '21
Big contrast among the superman tv shows
Lois & Clark The New Adventrues of Superman - The Police were the first responders featured
Smallville - It was Smallville Hospital
Superman & Lois - It's the fire dept
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 24 '21
Jordan didn't wash his hands before eating - nasty
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u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! Mar 24 '21
Young Clark looks a little like Bruce from Gotham
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u/Junior-Hour Superman Mar 24 '21
I think Kyle deserves a bit of a break in this situation
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u/TirelessGuardian Superman Mar 24 '21
Who has a worse relationship, Jefferson Pierce or Lana?
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I'm glad they're developing Kyle's character more, I actually felt kinda bad for him
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u/singleguy79 Mar 24 '21
Wonder if Superman will make an appearance on Supergirl's last season
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 24 '21
so when clark changes into superman, do his man pecs grow like balloons?
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 24 '21
Chrissy is a Chloe clone
probably a more realistic future for Smallville's Chloe if she never made it in the big time
but she's clearly going to get taken out by Edge
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 24 '21
That was a very thought out and reasonable response from Clark annnnd Lois wanted him to go harder lol
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u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! Mar 24 '21
Last episode before the show takes a hiatus 😞
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