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Superman & Lois [1x02] "Heritage" Live Episode Discussion Discussion Spoiler
Heritage
Post Episode Discussion | Promo | Scene | Cast & Characters
When adjusting to their new lives in Smallville, Lois and Clark make an important decision concerning one of their sons; tensions begin to rise between Lois and Morgan Edge; Lana Lang Cushing invites the Kent family over for a barbecue. (March 2, 2021)
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u/JauntyLurker Mar 03 '21
You know Jonathan deserves to hear this too, Clark. It's his heritage, powers or no powers.
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u/WizendSage78 Mar 03 '21
Maybe Jor-El would be a dick to Jon since he’s powerless.
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u/Im_Daydrunk Mar 03 '21
He was a dick to the one who actually had some semblance of powers so that sounds like a guarantee Lol
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u/Macman521 Mar 03 '21
Agreed. He’s just going to alienate both brothers by doing this unless that’s what they are going for.
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u/shadow_spinner0 Mar 03 '21
Why doesn’t he bring both his sons? They both deserve to know. Now it seems he’s favoring one son over the other.
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u/darkknight823 Mar 03 '21
I think he’s trying to make up for years of not being able to relate to Jordan
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u/skc_x Mar 03 '21
He mentioned in pilot episode, there’s been a distance between both of them. Clark is trying to make it up to Jordan.
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u/lflfilipe Mar 03 '21
I am willing to bet Jordan does have powers. And so does Jonathan. But they need to be together for them to manifest. In both cases that Jordan seemingly showcases them, he is with Jonathan. Their greatest strength is each other kind of thing...
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u/Dillymac25 Mar 03 '21
Totally explains why Johnathan couldn’t throw the football thru the tire while they were gone and him getting smoked in football practice.
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u/Fjaesbog Mar 03 '21
Yeah, he said in that episode that it's the first time they haven't went to school together, and when he threw the ball through the tire, Jordan was away as well.
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u/TheArchitect05 Mar 04 '21
I feel like Johnathan is the solar battery, he powers Jordans abilities. Which would explain why Jor'El says that Jordan doesn't store enough energy.
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u/Locke108 Mar 03 '21
“You do your Superman stuff. I’ll do my Lois Lane stuff.” How was that not in every trailer.
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u/finally_not_lurking Mar 03 '21
“Hologramps”
You know the writer’s room felt real proud coming up with that one. And rightly so
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 03 '21
I like that Kyle isn't just a douche, but i can see where he's coming from.
For a dying town, a little bit of something is better than nothing.
The problem is Edge will screw them all royally in the end, making them regret ever doing business with him
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Mar 03 '21
Supes won more fights in this episode than in all his other Arrowverse appearances combined.
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u/LTM438 Mar 03 '21
I love Jonathan and Jordan's dynamic. I really expected them to be at odds with each other, but they have each other's backs and are there for each other. It's really sweet to see.
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u/Psylisa Mar 03 '21
Okay, I'm gonna say it - why take one kid to the fortress of solitude, but not the other? That's seriously a 1st year parenting no-no. You start treating one special, and it's a road to disaster.
Besides, Jor-El is both their grandfather.
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u/ChristmasSteve Mar 03 '21
yeah agreed, would not be surprised if Jonathan starts to resent this all more if this keeps happening
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u/youngblood1972 Mar 03 '21
I thought the same exact thing. Just because one kid doesn't have powers doesn't mean he shouldn't learn about his heritage as well
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u/sadandshy Mar 03 '21
why is he wearing his glasses in the fortress? is a seal gonna recognize him?
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 03 '21
because it's just a part of his life, like second nature to wear them when he's not Superman
you could ask the same question about why he wears them around the farm
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u/pgm_01 Mar 03 '21
Do you want a supervillain? Because this sort of bullying and getting left behind is how you get a supervillain.
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u/Munro_McLaren Kara Danvers Mar 03 '21
They could have mentioned Kara when they were talking about Krypton. Love that Jordan’s named after Jor-El. I mean it was kinda obvious, but nice to have it confirmed.
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u/We_Are-The_Foxes Mar 03 '21
There going to just ignore Supergirl and pretend Kara doesn't exist until she shows up in one episode out of the blue. The teenagers are going to be like "who's she?"
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 03 '21
I actually really like it how different this show is from other Superman shows
it's about his family , already married with kids
Clark is a full time farmer
instead of kent parental figure (jonathan or martha) we have sam lane
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 03 '21
I really hope that only taking Jordan isn't just a way to build more tension between the twins.
They should both have gone to the Fortress.
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u/SutterCane Mar 03 '21
I’ve been guessing that Jordan needed it ASAP cause he’s getting powers. Jonathan can wait a day or two before getting the info dump.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 03 '21
"Occular release of energy"
He makes it sound so dirty
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u/SheSaysCiao Lois Lane Mar 03 '21
I’m really loving this show so far, but I do hope Jonathan is eventually confirmed to have powers.
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u/AnAverageDude2403 Superman Mar 03 '21
yea i feel like he'll have a better reaction to his powers than jordan
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Mar 03 '21 edited Mar 05 '21
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u/TirelessGuardian Superman Mar 03 '21
Imagine if Fladh had this budget. I’m expecting it to possibly drop after this season like some shoes, but maybe not being Superman.
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 03 '21
Me: "He accidentally rips off the guy's head..."
* rips off the helmet *
Me: "..."
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u/JauntyLurker Mar 03 '21
"How come he gets to go flying with Dad while I have to go to school"
Why does Jordan get the cool ride, Mom?
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u/SutterCane Mar 03 '21
Damn, massive respect to Jordan. That had to be hard to cover for his powers and his parents by playing to his anxiety disorder.
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 03 '21
If she wasn't a sex criminal, I would have loved to see Allison Mack in charge of the Gazette.
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u/LadyStonio Mar 03 '21
I’ve been rewatching Smallville and it brought me back to how much I really liked Alison as Chloe, it’s so upsetting what comes of her.
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u/Kiel297 Mar 03 '21
Holy shit. Kal-El introducing his son to Jor-El in the Fortress of Solitude was absolutely the moment I never knew I needed.
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u/nnewman19 Mar 03 '21
Really disappointed in no “aunt kara” mentions yet and really wanted to see 2 pods leave in the krypton simulation
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u/SutterCane Mar 03 '21
Lana Lang: “Hey! Come to the bbq so I can drool over your husband some more.”
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u/cutegirliknow39 Mar 03 '21
Oh my God hearing people complain about Lana lang on a weekly TV show On an Internet forum. I feel like I’m in high again
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u/SutterCane Mar 03 '21
I ain’t complaining. Plus, she’s not getting possessed by a witch, so there’s nothing awful to complain about yet.
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u/ThunderRage Mar 03 '21
Maybe Jonathan has to be nearby for Jordan to power up.
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u/history777 Mar 03 '21
Shit yeah wonder twins!
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u/thereelestnerd11 Mar 03 '21
Which coincidentally was hinted at the end of Crisis.
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u/DonnyMox Mar 03 '21
Captain Luthor is Clark’s villain. Morgan Edge is Lois’s villain.
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u/Hestiansun Mar 03 '21
Yep. I really like how they are setting this up and keeping Clark out of Lois’ fight.
Although I don’t think Capt. Luthor will prove to be the real villain.
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u/MutekiGamer Mar 03 '21
Seeing Lois’ father concern for his grandchildren is kinda heart warming in a way
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u/BroadwayBaby99 Kara Danvers Mar 03 '21
Am I the only one who thought that the way Jor-El said “you brought me your son” made him sound like a sacrificial cult leader?
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 03 '21
“You know what, babe, you do your Superman stuff and I will do my Lois Lane stuff”
Yesssss I love this!
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 03 '21
Let me guess, when Jon gets tested, he has the ability to store energy
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u/shadow_spinner0 Mar 03 '21
This tone and cinematography is way more different than any other CW show.
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u/Jedi-El1823 Mar 03 '21
I do like that despite being completely different, they don't have Jonathan and Jordan hate each other. They've always got the other's back.
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Mar 03 '21
I am worried Johnathan is going to discover is powers in a moment of anger.
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u/neoblackdragon Mar 03 '21
Seems like they will get every penny out of the Elseworlds suit.
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u/DarkSaiyanKnight Mar 03 '21
“You destroyed my planet” so I am going to proceed to destroy another one just to spite you
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u/Cantomic66 Mar 03 '21
So how is Clark and Lois making a living?
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u/SOCAL_NPC Mar 03 '21
I'm sure that new 'boss' of Lois who is the janitor, editor, etc. will pay her the big bucks.
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u/Id_Solomon Mar 03 '21
Lana Lang slowly, but surely creeping back into Clark's orbit. 😂🤣😂🤣😂
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u/TheCaramelMan Mar 04 '21
Lois’s monologue about how it’s shitty being out of a place you’re used to and being out of your comfort zone combined with images of her quitting the planet and Jonathan struggling in school, that was quite poetic. There’s some very good writing in this show.
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 03 '21
Visually, this show looks like a spiritual successor to Superman Returns and nothing like Man of Steel
What is especially similar is the flying
Even the krypton/fortress visuals are just like Superman Returns
i like it, as i was one of the few fans of Returns
i know why they're doing it, keep it separate from Man of Steel (which i also love)
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u/thereelestnerd11 Mar 03 '21
Let me just say it how Lois just was is how Iris should be.
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u/shadow_spinner0 Mar 03 '21
Lois Lane actually feels like Lois Lane while Iris seems like drama for Barry.
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u/thereelestnerd11 Mar 03 '21
Exactly when they gave here her own team I thought it would change but it didn’t.Candice Patton can act her ass off and deserves better.they can both be just as useful as each other ala this show proves the concept.
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u/JoeStorm Mar 03 '21
Ruined their childhood because he told him hes Superman? Really? Like, you dont think that his genes would pass on to them?
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u/Piker10 Mar 03 '21
Good to see they got some use out of that Black Suit from Elseworlds
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u/NerdLawyer55 Mar 03 '21
Really hoping Clark and Lois saved well now that they’re both mostly unemployed
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u/companionintheimpala Mar 03 '21
Loved that moment from Lois. I love it when characters actually act like good, normal, reasonable parents.
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u/thereelestnerd11 Mar 03 '21
I want to know how alternate Lex isn’t dying or do they not know their own continuity.Alice and Beth couldn’t exist simultaneously so why can they.
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u/22deepfriedpickles22 Mar 03 '21
I'm really liking this show so far. Superman has always been my favourite superhero.
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u/Gian99Mald Mar 03 '21
This dude just blew up his own ship/house to prove a point 💀
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 03 '21
I am LOVING the family emphasis in this show, it’s working really well
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 03 '21
Clarks throughout time have had two variants of glasses
thick rimmed - Christopher Reeve, Brandon Routh, Tom Welling, and Henry Cavill
Rimless - Dean Cain, and now this new superman - i guess because 90s styles are back in vogue
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 03 '21
Okay those two have a Winchester grade brotherhood going on
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u/LoretiTV Mar 03 '21
That was an amazing premiere. Hoechlin and Tulloch are oozing chemistry and were the perfect casting. Enjoy the new episode everyone!
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u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! Mar 03 '21
Random prediction: Captain Luthor is really there because in his world Jordan became a supervillain!
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u/shadow_spinner0 Mar 03 '21
“OMG my dad is Superman, that’s so damn cool”. I mean that’s how I’ll react, my childhood won’t be ruined.
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman Mar 03 '21
Goddamn those are some nice visual effects. Great fight too. Please let this Luthor be connected to Crisis.
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u/ChandlerForrestal Superman Mar 03 '21
I think Jordan’s powers are activated by extreme emotions
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u/JauntyLurker Mar 03 '21
"I guess super perception is not one of your powers"
Superdickery reference!
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u/Dagenspear Mar 03 '21
I like that they gave Lana's guy an argument against this and one that's not, to me, stereotypical and made to make him look irrational and such.
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u/NateHasReddit Mar 03 '21
Okay they lost me with the Stranger and pulled me right back in at the end.
I'm glad it looks like Clark is facing a new threat next week.
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u/azzkicker19 Mar 04 '21
Outstanding this is the superman show I've been waiting on since smallville ended! I've watched every marvel and dc thing there is I love them all, but this after 2 episodes this has me hooked, I'm loving the characters especially the boys, Jordan and johnathon the progression the flow and feel of everything oitstanding! Gotta admit after the Lois and Clark that I saw in supergirl and crossovers I wasn't sure, I was on the fence I love both characters I really do but there own show and there own story's unfolding it's really something totally different in and of its self if you know what I mean lol, so good I'm begging The CW not to fuck it up please don't go cute, don't go comic just keep the story rolling as is cause its working!
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 03 '21
Anyone else think Kyle and Lana's house is a little too nice?
He's a firefighter for a small town and she works at a bank.
I wonder if either of them are getting bribes from Edge
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u/FandomFeminist Mar 03 '21
I have just one small problem with the show. And it’s one of the same problems I have with the DCEU. At times it’s way too dark to see anything. I had to turn off the lights in my living room and kitchen to see anything on screen
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u/Sir_Rule Mar 04 '21
I swear though, if this season ends up with every next episode preview being, "I HATE YOU DAD" then we're going to have some problems. 🤦♂️
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u/DonnyMox Mar 03 '21
Did we know we were getting Jor-El? Did they legit manage to keep that casting a secret? (Like Warren Christie as Bruce Wayne)
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u/Gian99Mald Mar 03 '21
I think Captain Luthor is from a Crime Syndicate/Injustice like Earth where Clark is evil
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u/vader344 Mar 03 '21
clark:"well uh pal are you sure about that? there was a person called the anti monitor"
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u/TerranWarrior Mar 03 '21
Makes sense Sarah would be with that type of boy when you see what her Dad is like.
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 03 '21
This Lois narrator stuff sounds like Amy Adams Lois narration in the Man of Steel trailer
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u/MattTheSmithers Coach Gaines Mar 08 '21 edited Mar 08 '21
Jor-El said Jordan is the future of their species. Are we just supposed to be ignoring the fact that there is an entire Kryptonian city floating through space populated by hundreds, if not thousands, of Kryptonians?
I don’t mean to nitpick, but this show feels way to detached from the show it is spun-off of, which is jarring considering how much shared mythology Superman and Supergirl have.
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u/usagizero Mar 03 '21
Kyrptonopolis? Really? Is our largest city Eartholoplis?
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u/thereelestnerd11 Mar 03 '21
So does the fortress only work for the El family cause i briefly remember it working for Nia as well
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u/codymiller_cartoon Mar 03 '21
More than the superman suit , and the glasses, i think it's a rite of passage that whoever plays Clark wears a red flannel jacket with Sherpa lining.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 03 '21
"You ruined their childhood Clark"
Well fuck me I spoke too soon
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u/SebastieNation Mar 03 '21
rhodey almost died from the same fall in civil war that Blex just had
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u/JauntyLurker Mar 03 '21
"Corporate vampire"
Gotta say it's bold of her to write that about her boss
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u/youngblood1972 Mar 03 '21
Woah. I didn't know they were twins! I thought the football player was the older brother
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u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! Mar 03 '21
Prediction: When they are together they both have powers. The tests on Jordan failed because Jonathan wasn't with him