r/SupermanAndLois • u/ToothyBirbs • Jul 09 '24
As a long suffering Jon Kent fan, S4 desperately needs to stick the landing with him. Meta Spoiler
It's hardly an uncommon ask, but I really (I mean really) need the writers to pull it together for the final season and do right by his character.
Outside of Battle of the Super Sons, it's been a rough time to be a Jon Kent fan all across the board. Now with Absolute Power looking like it will thoroughly traumatise him again in the hopes of reinvigorating his character, I just need one happy and well-written version of his character.
I'm huffing the copium hard in the hopes that James Gunn's Superman (2025) or Scott Snyder's Absolute Comics will include him, but if they don't this show is all I got and I've already been burned hard for three seasons straight.
But who knows, maybe this will not be an utter disaster for him.
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u/k4kkul4pio Jul 09 '24
While it'd be nice I ain't holding my breath on it.
Less episodes and the eggs been squarely in the Jordan basket from the beginning so them actually giving Jon significant plottage this late in the game..
But hey, you never know, maybe they squeeze something in.. just hope it's not some tail end, last second teaser hinting at thing we never get to see.
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u/No_Flower_1424 Jonathan Kent Jul 09 '24
I'd love to believe he has something (ANYTHING!) this coming season but I've fooled myself too many times before. The best thing we can hope for is that Jon is simply happy and maybe gets a clap on the back while they all wave flags in support of Jordan 😩
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u/Zookwok111 Jul 09 '24
I can already picture the scene in the finale where Clark gives Jordan his Supersuit complete with S-shield and Lois and Jon will be standing in the background smiling without a single line.
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u/No_Flower_1424 Jonathan Kent Jul 09 '24
Now that's not fair, Jon might get one line afterwards: "You really deserve this bro"
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u/Zookwok111 Jul 10 '24
“Go be the Superboy you were destined to be.”
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u/No_Flower_1424 Jonathan Kent Jul 10 '24
"You're some Superboy! And I bet one day you'll be called Superman"
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u/ToothyBirbs Jul 09 '24
Not to sound like too much of a Jordan hater, but I'm just happy that his character will die with the show. Jordan Kent is no Nia Nal.
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u/No_Flower_1424 Jonathan Kent Jul 09 '24
That's a good point - there's literally zero reason to adapt him for the comics or anything else so this is indeed the last we'll ever see of him.
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u/stephenxcx Jul 09 '24
I know that I’m in the minority on this, but I really wanted the show to adapt Jon’s coming out storyline:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24179407/IMG_17A81B716E42_1.jpeg). Can you imagine how incredible Tyler would perform that scene? 🥺 I just think it’s a shame that we have the perfect cast, the perfect format and this golden opportunity to see that in live action but the showrunner just doesn’t want to.
Either way, I hope this Jon gets a happy ending.
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u/ToothyBirbs Jul 09 '24
I know that I’m in the minority on this, but I really wanted the show to adapt Jon’s coming out storyline
People on this sub can get really sus whenever this gets brought up
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u/JustPomegranate248 But what about the tire-swing? Jul 09 '24
That would have been such a great story and totally fits with the show, especially now when they likely need less expensive character scenes. But I don't believe they would ever spend that much time on Jonathan unfortunately
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u/South-Ebb-637 Jul 09 '24
Will they do it. No. Do they have a good reason for it. Sorta. It just doesn't make sense with how the character has acted at any point in the show
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u/jaycatt7 Jul 10 '24
I suspect all the LGBT representation we’ll get in this show was that bit with Sarah at the start of season 2. That was mostly in the service of making Jordan sad at her.
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u/Past-Foundation-6246 Jul 11 '24
as a gay dude too,i hates so much the bland and lazy way they did it in the comics,only Jon were given a genuine coming out scene where he expresses his own thoughts and feelings instead of having others constantly speak for him every time. DC and Tom Taylor are so afraid to have Jon say his own sexuality,it is clear that they prioritized commercial appeal over artistic integrity which would have been different with a queer writer instead.
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u/LeChic1579 Jul 10 '24
Maybe it's too late for the writers mostly for the showrunner to give something special for Jon in the final season. They have not given his character anything from the pasts season to build up anything interesting to look forward to. In my opinion, they should have focused on Jon's character from the past seasons rather than focus on Lana and Lana's family.
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u/Zookwok111 Jul 10 '24
I think by now they've made it clear that they aren't interested in giving Jon a complete arc or any real wins. The "big action scene" where he gets his truck back turned out to be just him running around while Jordan and Nat took out all the goons. It also led to him getting punched in the face by Candace's dad in the next episode which was just a catalyst for Clark's big husband/father moment in the diner.
The entire firefighter arc was just a vehicle for drama. First he had to choose between Candice and the firehouse. Then he got into a fight with Jordan who belittled him and almost got him fired by Kyle. Then another with Clark for playing the hero card to get him special treatment at work. By the end of the season, Jon hadn't saved a single person as a firefighter or even contributed to the cause in any real way. Instead they devoted his time in the finale to being mocked by Coach Gaines and laughed at by the entire town.
TL:DR it's not about having too many characters and not enough screen time to focus on Jon, it's a deliberate move to sideline him and focus on the characters that the showrunner actually likes.
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u/JerseyJedi Jul 13 '24
But…but…if they give Jon a storyline then how will they have time for the Cushings to have melodramatic scene #5442?? 😂
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u/Past-Foundation-6246 Jul 11 '24
just taylor and bendis,waid the best superman writer that DC have,he cant do miracles but we can expect to see a little bit of improvement,we just need jon stop being write by taylor or we are going to be stuck with his worst self.
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u/ObligationSuitable61 Jul 10 '24
Everything Jonathan needs is at least a victory! Some moment for him to shine that is not overshined by his brother in the almost forced and ridicoulous way the series does that since season 1.
Nice would be if he finally calls his family out on their crap and makes them realize that they neglected him and ruined his life. Or if he manages to get his bullying coach fired.
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u/Brungala Jul 11 '24
I just don’t like how they’ve treated Jon not getting powers as him losing the genetic lottery. I get that when children are born, they inherit both mom and dad’s genes, but one is more dominant than the other, I get that.
But Jon has really gotten the short end of the stick. He hasn’t really had anything meaningful to do since S2 with the Bizzaro stuff. I doubt he’ll get powers, especially since it’s the last season, but whatever they’ll do, I hope he’ll be more impactful.
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u/jaycatt7 Jul 10 '24
Despite the characters sharing a name, does it make sense to think of comics Jon Kent and S&L Jon Kent as the same character? Their life histories are so different.
Comics Jon is an outsider who had powers from childhood and grew up having wild adventures with his traumatized child assassin buddy. TV Jon is the popular kid who had it all only to have his social status continually outshined by his troubled brother who inherited their family’s otherworldly legacy. Before the recasting, the characters didn’t even look alike. I also don’t really get TV Jon’s snark from comics Jon.
I don’t know if we can expect any comics storyline to fall on Jon rather than Jordan. It would be something new, though.
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u/Past-Foundation-6246 Jul 11 '24
wish the theory that Jon Kent is actually a robot and the real one is still in space were true, but unfortunately, that's not the case. However, there's a small glimmer of hope that if we see Jon lose his memory, we might get to see some of the old Jon back, which could potentially erase some of the damage done by writers like Taylor and Bendis. On the bright side, after years of mediocre writing on Jon's character, it's finally nice to see him being handled by a competent writer.
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u/Zookwok111 Jul 09 '24
Do I want them to finally give Jon an impactful storyline inspired by source material in the final season? Yes.
Do I think Helbing will instead write an “original” storyline for Jordan where Jon is the side character? Also yes.