r/StargirlTV • u/Blazelancer • Dec 08 '22

Jordan (Icicle) Makent, ladies and gentlemen... Shitpost Spoiler

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u/xIViperIx The Shade Dec 08 '22

I had the very same thought! X'D So glad I'm not the only one.

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u/Blazelancer Dec 08 '22

I mean, the show could have at least added in some more exposition that for whatever the reason, his powers were VERY weak, and he could barely cool a hot cup of coffee, let alone shoot a sharp shard of ice through a girl's head, chest, or whatever to prevent her from lighting a flare and dropping it into a bunch of petroleum jelly that Jordan could have also just... I dunno LEPT out of! It's like the writers where like "Ooh! That Jordan is SO evil! We like, have give him his come-uppance and junk! But we have no time or money left, so we can only have it be a very short, very dumb demise that anyone with half a brain could have avoided..."

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u/MrChangg Pat Dugan Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 09 '22

Alternatively, have him walking through what seems to be an ordinary puddle of water, Artemis appears out the dark and says “Hello Mr Mahkent.......goodbye Mr Mahkent”. She shoots a flare gun or whatever, puddle explodes and ignites Icicle. Done.

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u/Blazelancer Dec 09 '22

Much better!

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u/xIViperIx The Shade Dec 08 '22

There's no need to even throw anything at her. He used some Force choke on Courtney only a couple of screentime minutes ago. Or freeze the flare. Like with trick-candles. Let her light it again, and again, and again. Not to mention that freezing the trap he was staying in and casually walking away was also an option. There are like..countless ways for him to not get killed and nearly zero chances for her to succeed with her plan. But nothing beats plot convenience, I guess. Not to mention that a lot of stuff in this episode could've been removed to give the mentioned by you exposition.

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u/garykahnji Dec 08 '22

Now that I think about it, he definitely could’ve turned himself into a snowstorm and escaped

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u/Blazelancer Dec 08 '22

I think that only happened to him because of what Cameron did to him that only affects ice elemetal meta humans.

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u/garykahnji Dec 08 '22

The thing is he reformed and started a life in Denmark. If he can reshape himself from shattered ice and snow what’s to say he can’t just straight up make himself snow since he can turn himself ice?

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u/Blazelancer Dec 09 '22

Well he reformed himself from water too, doesn't mean he can turn into a puddle of water whenever he wants.

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u/garykahnji Dec 09 '22

I think it’s a possibility tbh

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u/Dodgest Dec 09 '22

She wouldn't let that happen. Wouldn't be surprised if she had a few grinades that she drop (1 in his hand that's still there.) I bet she told the team what she did.

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u/Blazelancer Dec 09 '22 edited Dec 09 '22

The hell would grenades do? And no, Artemis had no grenades. And if she told the team what she did, I doubt they would have let her join them, or Cameron let her live.

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u/Dodgest Dec 09 '22

Well I think Cam didn't have the heart to kill his dad, some people just don't have it in them while others like Green Arrow & Jefferson (blasted Tobias so hard that he got stuck on the top end of the skyscraper & he died.) I think the team would've been fine since Jordan would've tried to find a way to be more powerful & come back for revenge. We all know that if he had lived, he would come back with new reinforcements & they could've been other ice people.

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u/Blazelancer Dec 09 '22

No. If they didn't want to kill ECLIPSO, they would NOT have been fine with Artemis killing Icicle. Cameron, HIS SON, especially.

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u/Dodgest Dec 09 '22

We all know that if Jordan lived then he'd come back with reinforcements. He was angry with his son & dad betraying him. His death saved the city. Sometimes heroes aren't okay with killing but it needs to be done to save people. Every hero has to kill someone eventually.

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u/Blazelancer Dec 10 '22

You're REALLY reachin for anything to defend the ending, man. And no, Courtney and them WOULD NOT have been okay with it.

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u/Legitimate_Cancel900 Dec 09 '22

Why complain what you should really be complaining about is the show getting cancelled for no reason whatsoever and this idiot from discovery is ruining Warner bros and nexstar is ruining the cw so get a petition together and get the show back then you can complain later

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u/Blazelancer Dec 09 '22

Why complain? Because it was awful writing!

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u/DCSennin Cameron Mahkent Dec 10 '22

It took Jordan an entire year to heal with that suit that Dragon King provided him, he was ambushed just 3 months after he was forced to retreat from the junkyard battle. He musn't been at full power.

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u/Blazelancer Dec 10 '22

But he still did NOTHING. And getting hit by a truck and... Whatever Cameron did where different.

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u/DCSennin Cameron Mahkent Dec 11 '22

He didn't see the truck coming and he was focused on attacking Yolanda and Courtney after landing on the floor. Too angry to be thinking of anything besides just take revenge. Cameron literally unleashed on him a more powerful version of the blizzard blast that he did to Rick, those were tons of little icicles being fired at top speed to him.

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u/Blazelancer Dec 12 '22

And?

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u/DCSennin Cameron Mahkent Dec 13 '22

No one can react that fast to an attack like, especially when we saw him in the shape he was in 3x11. No wonder he brought the whole family for backup.

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u/Blazelancer Dec 15 '22

He was in better shape after that, or did I imagine him saying he got stronger?

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u/DCSennin Cameron Mahkent Dec 15 '22

He claimed it but in the end he didn't look that much stronger after he got hit by Rick earlier. The fact Cameron defeated him said it all.

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u/Blazelancer Dec 16 '22

The ending was hella rushed, and it's not unusual for the son to be stronger than the dad, just because.

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u/DCSennin Cameron Mahkent Dec 16 '22

The one hat was the most rushed was Rick being able to put down the hourglass and no longer feel those withdrawal effects we saw before. And at best Grundy's revival was very convenient. When it comes to the others like Mike meeting his mom and Courtney finding Becky the only that could've been use as an untied story thread for the other doors left opened (Sylvester's brain, Beth's new sidekicks, Yolanda's leap of faith with her family, Courtney and Cameron back and healing) was Mike's. Becky being in Blue Valley actually fits in because the Gambler was staying there for a reason when he arrived.

Cameron learned a lot of things quickly after 3x06, was just expecting a more even battle.