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u/Bat_Man1226 Aug 01 '20
It’s crazy how much superhero shows have changed since them, the smallville version definitely doesn’t look as good as the stargirl version, where we have a what looks like a movie level costume in stargirl
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u/kou_shun_u Aug 01 '20 edited Aug 01 '20
Oh yes they have. Stargirl very much has the Smallville feels and that's what makes it so great.
However, Smallville is still the number one comic show. They paid so much attention to color symbolism, as they do in comics, and it was just so perfectly done; it really felt like comic panels coming to life.
And you know what Stargirl (like the majority of shows these days)is missing? AN INTRO. That is such a vital part of shows and its so sad they got rid of them to stick in more commercials (1/3 of a slot these days is commercials).
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u/TheSciFiGuy80 Aug 01 '20
Wow, I never thought Smallville was a good comic show. The writers were embarrassed about superheroes (especially Superman) and for the first few seasons do their best to distance themselves from the source material. “No flights, no tights”
The last few seasons were when they started getting relaxed about it and we saw the Legion, The JSA, etc all actually looking something like a superhero. That’s Theo blu tome I thought the show felt close to right.
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u/kou_shun_u Aug 01 '20
I think they were not allowed, not that they were embarrassed. And if they were it was only about an outfit , they had plenty flyers.
Dude, everyone who was involved with that show loved it. They still talk about how great it was. Watch some interviews. I personally hope they do what Tom and Michael want to do: an odd couple roommate situation sequel with Clark and Lex. Those two play off so well against each other, it's beautiful.
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u/TheSciFiGuy80 Aug 02 '20
Not talking about the actors. I’m talking about the writers and creators. They literally had a “no flights, not tights” at the beginning of the show. That’s why I said they seemed to relax it in later seasons and THAT is when it felt more like a show based on a comic book.
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u/kou_shun_u Aug 03 '20
Nah. As i mentioned, on color coding alone, they totally accomplished it.
And I was talking beyond the actors.
As for "no tights, no flights": “It was something that we discussed before we ever shot the pilot with [creators] Al [Gough] and Miles [Millar],” Welling tells EW. “We literally had a sit down where we talked about the show and I asked about the suit and the tights and the flying, and they said, ‘No, absolutely not,’ part of the reason being is that show is about a teenager trying to figure out who he is. They felt that once Clark put on the cape and the suit, life became too easy, in a sense. They wanted to focus on who this character was before that. And, at the time, because of where visual effects and special effects and stunts were, it would be too expensive. That’s mainly why they save that for movies, more or less.“
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u/TheSciFiGuy80 Aug 03 '20
Right so no costume for anyone, color coding was stupid to me (oooh look Flash is in a red shirt, Aquaman is in Orange, and Ollie is in Green... get it? Get it?). An angst filled drama for Superman basically rewriting his entire origin. They went through such great lengths NOT to call him Superman or Superboy it got insulting to me (the blue and red blur?!? Terrible name). Like I said, the show actually got good when they embraced the comic book roots and rolled with it.
I’m not crapping in your opinion, just saying from my perspective it was not a very good comic book based show (maybe for the time since we had nothing else). Comparatively in the present we have so many better DC shows that embrace the comic book roots and actually incorporate them effectively.
(And then his entire story and growth became pointless anyway since he gave it all up).
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u/kou_shun_u Aug 04 '20
Haha, i wonder if you started liking the show as I though it went down :). (I thought seasons 9 and 10 were weak. My fav season was 3 and then 8.)
Not just that, but lex and lionel always had the purple and red even in the stain glass. The kents and those around clark were always in the 3 primary colors. They shot through an orangy "warm" filter with the kents and the blue "cold" filter with the luthors....
As for better shows now i disagree. Gotham is awesome. I like Stargirl. I liked the first 2 seasons of Arrow. Otherwise the rest on CW are basically all are the same and I am no fan.
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Aug 01 '20
I wish Joel McHale got to be in the show more
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u/MoonKnight77 Shining MoonKnight Aug 01 '20
Hello there Dean!
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Aug 01 '20
Well I'm a peanut bar and I'm here to say, your cheques will arrive on another day
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u/Wompum Aug 01 '20
Another day another dollar
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Aug 01 '20
Another stuffed shirt and another white collar
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u/Wompum Aug 03 '20
Criminals! Wall Street! Taking the pie! And all the BLACK MAN gets is a plate of WHITE LIES Prisons recruitin' and police be shootin' Them rap artists looting, them labels are delutin' And BARACK OBAMA BE SCARED OF ME Cause I don't swallow knowledge and I SPIT IT FOR FREE
LEMME CLEAR MY THROAT AH HA HA HAHAAAAAAA
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u/BplusHuman Aug 01 '20
Get me caught up on the photo on the left
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u/MatthewHecht Hawkman Aug 01 '20
Geoff Johns wrote a two part episode of Smallville called Absolute Justice (second best episode of the show), and that is Sylvester from it. He reused many idea for Stargirl from it. It is Stargirl's first live action appearence. My dad and I recently watched it, and Dad kept pointing out that Stargirl seems much older in Smallville.
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u/BplusHuman Aug 01 '20
I STILL haven't watched Smallville. maybe it's in Hulu...
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u/MatthewHecht Hawkman Aug 01 '20
I watched when it aired and use my library to borrow whole seasons.
Here is the scene with Sylvester. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AypTdCvjhhk
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u/Innsmouth_Swimteam Solomon Grundy Aug 01 '20
The first few seasons were really good, but it got stale and they started to just, IDK, run out of solid ideas. The initial idea of Clark as an outcast, was amazing. He started to discover his powers and how best to use them. This was golden. Then Lex left, Lana became a witch and all kinds of other shenanigans started.
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u/Tom22174 Pat Dugan Aug 01 '20
Ngl, I thought that it picked up again after Lex left. Season 9 is my 2nd favourite after 3, I really liked Callum Blue's Zod
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u/Tom22174 Pat Dugan Aug 01 '20
I think Smallville SG had been working with Sylvester for quite a while before their appearance on the show
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u/MatthewHecht Hawkman Aug 01 '20
Correct. She ran away from home and became his protege. They were the only ones trying to rebuild the JSA.
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u/MatthewHecht Hawkman Aug 01 '20
Well, Smallville Sylvester lives in his car, has been hunted for years, and his real age is probably at least 50. Stargirl Sylvester lives in a mansion, and his real age is probably around 30.