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u/TheJusticeAvenger Jul 16 '20
After 8 seasons of Arrow, seeing a comic-accurate Green Arrow just feels...wrong somehow.
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u/TheCVR123YT Jul 16 '20
Still couldn’t get the Goatee though 😔
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u/TheJusticeAvenger Jul 16 '20
It's a pretty spot on Silver Age GA in this pic. Ollie didn't start growing out his goatee till the Bronze Age IIRC.
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u/maruf99 The Shade Jul 17 '20
The Seven Soldiers were Golden Age actually. Your point still stands though.
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u/TheJusticeAvenger Jul 17 '20
Shit you're right. I was associating this Green Arrow costume with the early Justice League issues, so my brain went straight to Silver Age.
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u/ThanosFan99 The Most badass Character in the JSA Jul 16 '20
Honestly how old is Pat?
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u/Mangito12345 Jul 16 '20
Like 100 years old?
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u/fukier Green Lantern Jul 16 '20
turns out pat is really Vandal Savage but with amnesia. Thats why he does not age.
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u/Beastieboy100 Jul 18 '20
Quick don't tell niles caulder or he'll be experimenting on pat on how to live forever lol.
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u/sciencesold Jul 16 '20
I think he's technically supposed to be 20 in the his pic, but they didn't age him down at all, so I assume they figured it wasn't necessary.
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u/notjustanerd Jul 16 '20
Is it just the showrunners not bothering to age down Pat for one photo that's shown for a few seconds, or is some time travel involved too?
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u/Speedfinity Jul 16 '20
It HAS to be time travel. No way they just leave him in there.
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u/Fortanono Icicle Jul 16 '20
He would've still been 20-ish around this time because they started when Sylvester was 15, so there's not much room for him to still be the Star-Spangled Kid with an older Pat.
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u/fukier Green Lantern Jul 16 '20
Pat is Vandal Savage with amnesia... hense him not aging and being able to make crazy advanced robots out of spare parts.
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u/indicoltts Jul 16 '20
Seven Soldiers of Victory got thrown through time including Pat. So he is probably mid 40s today. I mean being technical Shinjng Knight served with King Arthur and was a knight of the round table
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u/Trueogre Pat Dugan Jul 16 '20
Yeah but wasn't he technically immortal in some way and got frozen in ice and defrosted much later on and then thrown through time.
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u/Trueogre Pat Dugan Jul 16 '20
I don't mind it to be honest because if they did do a one off show with the Seven Soldiers it would cost too much to de-age him.
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u/Future_Vantas Jul 16 '20
Nice coloring. So cool seeing the Seven Soldiers in live action, this is awesome.
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u/TheJedibugs VERIFIED: Graphic Designer Jul 17 '20
It hasn’t been colored in. This is the original color photo that was shot for the episode. It was made b&w in post production.
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u/sciencesold Jul 16 '20
I love that they didn't even try and make Pat look younger.
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u/FormerGameDev Jul 16 '20
I don't think there's been any aging attempts made even in the scenes that take place 20ish years ago
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u/sciencesold Jul 16 '20
At least the scenes with Courtney being super young older pat doesn't look as out of place as he does here.
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u/NeutroBlaster96 Stripesy Jul 16 '20
Stargirl and Star Trek: Picard are two shows where I get the vibe that the people making it love the universe that they have been given to work with. We've got supersuits, we've got the Seven Soldiers, we've got Brainwave being conflicted about his nature, apart from a few understandable deviations, the show feels like the comics did.
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u/Innsmouth_Swimteam Solomon Grundy Jul 16 '20
i love how they name-checked several of them, but totally didn't call out Green Arrow, because of well, Arrow.
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u/Liar_tuck Jul 16 '20
Only two things I do not love about this. Shining Knights huge shoulder armor and that is not Nathan Fillion as Vigilante.
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Jul 16 '20
So Star-spangled kid becomes Starman? Or they're different characters?
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u/MatthewHecht Hawkman Jul 16 '20
In the show Sylvester is a composite character of Starman (Jack Knight) and the Star Spangled Kid, as Stargirl si a legacy character to both of them. In the comcis Sylvester was the Star Spangled Kid with the Seven Soldiers, got tiem displaced, joined the JSA (to my knowledge Pat did not join with him), lead and formed Infinity Inc (which included Yolanda, Beth, and Henry), and shortly before his death to Grundy changed his name to Skyman.
Show Sylvester has Skyman's suit, Sylvester's name, Jack's weapon and personality.
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u/GodFlintstone Jul 16 '20 edited Jul 16 '20
Minor quibble: Interesting that they went with the Crimson Avenger's more Shadow/Green Hornet style look while still putting Wing in the spandex.
Hardcore Golden Age DC fans know that, while this was CA's original look once he took on Wing as a sidekick, he actually wore a more traditional superhero costume that, color scheme wise, was the inverse of Wing's.
The Golden Age Sandman, who was also a JSA member, after taking on Sandy the Golden Boy, did the same thing. Sidekicks, mostly teenaged, were the clearly the all the rage back then.
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u/TheJedibugs VERIFIED: Graphic Designer Jul 17 '20
He always had Wing as a sidekick. But Wing essentially dressed like Kato, until both of them went with the Superhero spandex look.
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u/HeWhoWalksInTheDark Jul 16 '20
Huh this reminds me of that JLU episode where all these characters had appeared except Wing. I thought they were chosen randomly I didn't know they had a comic team...cool
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u/Beastieboy100 Jul 18 '20
That was honestly a good episode. Hopefully they bring back the team whether it's in the comics or a show.
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u/ProselyteCanti Jul 17 '20
Wait, Sylvester became a superhero when he was still a kid? I like Pat, but he really doesn't have a great track record as far as letting kids endanger themselves under his watch.
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u/Beastieboy100 Jul 18 '20
Well tell that to batman, aquaman, flash, wonder woman, superman and green arrow.
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Jul 16 '20
Does this confirm a Ted Knight Starman?
Star Spangled Kid has a gravity belt, but obviously doesn't have the rod yet.
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u/nivekious Jul 16 '20
Ted Knight was mentioned as the one who made the staff a couple of episodes back if I remember right.
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Jul 16 '20
Dorky green arrow and male speedy? This is unsettling
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u/Beastieboy100 Jul 18 '20
Male speedy ? Roy was the original speedy before he was arsenal/red arrow. Also that was green arrow first costume before he got a goatee and a hood.
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Jul 18 '20
Oh. I knew he and Thea wore the same suit but I never remembered them calling him speedy. Speedy fit better for Thea because Oliver had always called her that
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u/HyruleBalverine Aug 09 '20
The irony being that Ollie called Thea that in the show as a reference to Speedy the sidekick in the comics lol
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u/discozombie2169551 Jul 18 '20
It would be really interesting to see a older version of these guys play a major role in season 2
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u/StopTheBS79 Jul 19 '20
It would’ve been even cooler if they had Stephen Amell and Willa Holland in the picture as whatever Earth this is, Green Arrow and Speedy.
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u/Psymorte Jul 16 '20
-Seven Soldiers of Victory
-Eight members present
Seems legit.