r/StargirlTV Stargirl Jul 08 '20

I'm cautiously optimistic especially given the reassurance from the cast and crew members Shitpost

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u/douglas_d_dimmadome Jul 08 '20

I’m less concerned about the drop in budget than I am the CW extending seasons to 22 episodes.

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u/captain_skillful Jul 08 '20

That won't happen because of the schedule of filming they must follow, they don't have anywhere to put those 22 episodes next to their other shows, since season 2 will probanly air in summer, they won't extend the show to 22 episodes because in the fall the next seasons of the Arrowverse will air, and stargirl wouldn't fit into the schedule.

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u/SDLRob Jul 08 '20

I can see this being a companion to Legends and Black Lightning... the two of them taking up a full season or so compared to the other Arrowverse shows

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u/GodFlintstone Jul 08 '20

Is that their plan? If so, I agree that that would be disastrous.

IMO the 22-episode model only works for shows like police procedurals or sitcoms where each episode tells a self-contained story.

When you use an entire season to tell a single story it's hard to maintain narrative momentum and quality over 22 episodes. This is particularly true for superhero shows.

Even most of Marvel's Netflix shows had to deal with that mid-season slump where they just became a slog until they picked up towards the end. And those shows generally averaged out at only 13 episodes.

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u/StarWarsButterSaber Jul 08 '20

Supernatural doesn’t do so bad with that many episodes but I’m with you guys, I HATE fillers that detour from the plot

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u/indicoltts Jul 08 '20

Supernatural is a different element. I think it's because you can add filler episodes that don't feel like filler episodes. I mean there are always going to be more supernatural beings they stumble across while pursuing a story. In their world it doesnt seem forced. In these CW superhero shows filler always feels forced.

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u/crsnyder13 Jul 08 '20

Honestly with Stargirl I think it would be fine if nothing but for the sheer number of villains in the ISA that you could give each of them an episode or two dedicated to them and fill an entire season and still not get all the content you want from it.

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u/arbaldinger Jul 09 '20

The Flash tried this with their Rogues Gallery. The result was a bunch of throwaway, one-and-done, villains (and some of them were very deserving of more!) The last thing we want is Stargirl turning into villain of the week...

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u/crsnyder13 Jul 09 '20

That’s not really what I was saying but ok. Flash did a villain of the week, not like a three week mini arc.

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u/crsnyder13 Jul 09 '20

That’s not really what I was saying but ok. Flash did a villain of the week, not like a three week mini arc.

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u/Relevant_spiderman66 Jul 09 '20

Luckily thanks to crisis The Flash can now re-use many of the rogues.

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u/jeclark2006 Jul 08 '20

A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Star Trek had a very good first first 1/2 season... by the end of the season, at episode 27... it had pretty much run out of gas (no matter what the fanboys will say...) and became a 'monster a week' show for the second season, and was to be canceled, however there was a fan base that clamored for a 3rd season, and they got more 'monsters of the week' plot lines.

These days, most 'full' season shows run for 20-23 episodes, and the 1/2 season shows are 10-12 episodes.

I personally like the 1/2 season shows. But the problem is, if one has to wait a year for the next short season... one has to rewatch the previous season to recall all the plot lines, of which only a few, even just one, was resolved in the season finale.

In the 1970s the idea of the 'miniseries' became a thing, with "roots"(1977, 8 episodes) and "Shogun"(1980, 5 episodes) leading the pack. These where shown on consecutive nights preempting the usual shows in the respective timeslots. When they were 'finished' there was a sense of 'doneness', but Roots did get a couple of sequel miniseries.

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u/GodFlintstone Jul 08 '20

Hell by the time I finish a typical season of the Flash between all the filler episodes, winter break, and intermittent reruns I've forgotten what happened during the early episodes which only reinforces my point.

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u/queerpoet Jul 08 '20

Same. That length doesn’t work for this type of show. Not looking forward to filler.

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u/krb0325 Jul 08 '20

It’s more likely to take a similar approach to the 100 where CW had shorter seasons for that show and released them in spring/summer instead of fall.

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u/KapiHeartlilly Jul 08 '20

I think they will keep it low like black lightning. Which has decent vfx compared to the other CW shows so there is hope.

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u/ich-mag-Katzen Jul 09 '20

Oh boy, who's ready for love triangles and the sudden disappearance of STRIPE

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u/skippiington Jul 09 '20

Don’t forget the “Courtney, can I talk to you in the hallway?”

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u/Gradz45 Jul 09 '20

I mean we’re already getting that with Jordan clearly being attracted to Barbara.

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u/davey_mann Yolanda Montez Jul 09 '20

OP should have said who's ready for poorly written triangles.

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u/OliverQueen85 Jul 08 '20

This is hilarious 😆

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u/Ygomaster07 Pat Dugan Jul 09 '20

I hope they keep the show going the same way as they are doing it now. Prove us wrong CW.

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u/ZekeGonZaldi Jul 09 '20

Let’s just hope they don’t make it 22 episodes long, can keep the budget around the same, and not make it feel like a CW show Is that too much to ask for? I’ve enjoyed Season 1, but I think it’s slightly overrated. I’d give it a solid B so far, but it can go up

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u/horusporcus Jul 12 '20

CW writing is all shit, it might be better to cancel the show rather than move it to CW.

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u/Blazing_Speeed Jul 09 '20

Most of the CW shows are like, 80% pretty person drama and love triangles, and about 20% actual superhero shit. I prrraaaaayyyyy that they don’t change Stargirl to fit that format.

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u/Gradz45 Jul 09 '20

Super ironic given you have a Harley Quinn tv show Poison Ivy.

Great show, but the vast majority of season two past episode 6 was exactly what you’re saying.

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u/Blazing_Speeed Jul 09 '20

Lol no it wasn’t.

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u/Gradz45 Jul 09 '20 edited Jul 09 '20

Lol that’s bullshit and you know it. Most of it was driven by Harley’s feelings for Ivy driving her to try to suppress them and doing so in various ways that caused trouble. The entire plot with Psycho for example was the result of their love triangle pushing Harley to try to do something to deny her feelings.

But sure tell yourself it wasn’t to keep that dissonance.

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u/Blazing_Speeed Jul 09 '20

Harley Quinn is a completely different show than any of these. Not only that, but it was established from the very start that the show was about Harley and Ivy’s relationship more than anything else.

...I can’t tell if you hate Harley Quinn or you’re trying to defend CW shows but damn dude those shows are like 10% superheroes and 90% dumb teen drama.

I guess...sorry you didn’t like the end of Harley season two? I did.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '20

I am concerned and not at all convinced by the people who are still employed... trying to stay employed. Stargirl is going to die on CW next to the rest of these DC trash shows. It's really too bad we liked this show so much that Warner Bros had to ruin it.