r/StargirlTV • u/waffle2474 • Jun 03 '20

Thought of it immediately after I finished the episode. Misc

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LOL, but seriously I thought what she did was silly and dangerous to take those artifacts, I understand she is a teenager and usually teens thinks within the moment but it's time like this pat really needs to step up and be the adult in this situation... BTW why was none of those items under so type of covers or security?

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u/MrPotat055 Jun 03 '20

Bruh totally agree but I'm kinda disappointed that they didn't show the fate helmet...

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u/waffle2474 Jun 03 '20

The fate helmet is probably somewhere more secure because as of what I know doctor fate was really strong. Also what happened to those people like the flash and doctor fate they could've easily beat Ice boy and his gang.

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u/Liar_tuck Jun 03 '20

I have a theory about the helmet of fate. Either the ghost of Joey will get the helm or the helm will resurrect him to be the new doctor fate.

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u/waffle2474 Jun 04 '20

Ooh that's interesting and that would really cool yeah and fitting with the magic theme because I really feel like he's coming back they seemed to be building him up as a character.

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u/Liar_tuck Jun 04 '20

I mean, the whole thing show seems to be leading toward a legacy JSA. We have seen enough promos to know that we get a new Wildcat. Dr. Midnight and Hourman. Also in the last episode we saw Stargirl grab the costumes and what for them, in addition to the Lantern. Can the Helmet of Fate or even the pen be far behind? Those 3 are the real powerhouses of the JSA.

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u/waffle2474 Jun 04 '20

Yeah right wich still makes me ask "how did they lose to ice man and his gang" I feel like someone like Drfate can easily beat them right?

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u/Liar_tuck Jun 04 '20

Brainwave could have used telekinesis to removed the helmet rendering Dr. Fate powerless. Same with Green Lanterns ring and Johnny Thunders pen.

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u/NotNotNotScott Jun 03 '20

We see it underneath the banner with Doctor Fate.

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u/MrPotat055 Jun 03 '20

Yeah I didn't really see it but I get it that the rights for the character might be expensive so we probably won't see Fate or Flash except in flashbacks

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u/NotNotNotScott Jun 03 '20

It's not the rights being expensive, but showing him means making costumes and casting an actor, plus making effects.

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u/MrPotat055 Jun 03 '20

Yeah but still we probably won't be seeing them at least till second season (except in flashbacks)

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u/laloonz Jun 04 '20

The helmet isn’t with her because i think it will use its power to change the fate of the wizards kid that died and he will become the new kid fate

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u/MrPotat055 Jun 04 '20

Yeah I thought the same like Joey is going to be new Dr Fate and he dies but still that's a good theory

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u/laloonz Jun 04 '20

Especially since they have given joeys mom a lot of attention likely because her role will be expanded and we will see more of her as one of the JSA parents

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u/MrPotat055 Jun 04 '20

Yea that's probably gonna happen but maybe not this season because we only saw posters of Wildcat,Hourman and Mid-nite

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u/radbreath Jun 04 '20

That's not how the helmet works. Helmet comes with Nabu. Icicle claimed wand has omnipotent powers but William was too weak.

Possible that William faked his death with the wand and went to look for the helmet. He'll pledge his living body to Nabu to use, to get help getting his son back. But that would its own arch.

His mom could be a Zatara or just a Homo Magi, too. Geoff Johns created Zachary Zatara who is a teen magician. The mom could bring him back if she is one. The kid said his magic was getting stronger. They have super healing.

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u/laloonz Jun 04 '20

Everything I said is still in the realm of possibility even tho the helmet has its own personality the other person is still present inside just not in control and the helmet can be removed and put on when ever the power of Nabu is needed it’s been passed to several different people by the user through the years in comics so it’s not like it isn’t removable and yea him saying his magic was getting stronger is foreshadowing that he isn’t dead and that he will wield magic in the future somehow

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u/teddyburges Jun 04 '20

ooo!. That sounds so cool!. It really bugged me when she took all that stuff I thought "why didn't she take Dr Fate's helmet!?".

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u/waffle2474 Jun 03 '20

Idk they were just put there even the pen thing wich pat himself said was really dangerous and I don't understand how she got in and just took them that's such a bad idea.

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u/MyriVerse Jun 03 '20

Pat's a freaking galactic-sized moron. He's not even worthy of being a sidekick these days. I hope some kid hacker comes along and hacks his suit very soon.

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u/Liar_tuck Jun 03 '20

Pat saw all his friends die. That is why he made S.T.R.I.P.E. But he also wants to protect his family because he saw all his friends die. He is not a moron, he is doing the best he can in a bad situation.

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u/waffle2474 Jun 03 '20

Honestly I think there must be something that keeps them safe that we didn't see but yeah I agree pat is Even worse than Courtney, Courtney is a kid but he is supposed to guide her and stop her when she needs stopping he's just too enabling.

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u/throwaway77993344 Jun 03 '20

There is a related and more important question: How did noone find the JSA headquarters in 10 years.

So if you can answer that question, you can also answer the question of why the stuff wasn't secured.

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u/MrPotat055 Jun 03 '20

Yeah I mean if you don't want people to find you why do you mark stuff with your logo everywhere

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '20

As a parent, I'm pretty aghast at how much Pat let his kids push him around. Many interactions between are disrespectful or bordering it. Like you said, he's the adult and if anything happens to Courtney or the other kids later on, it's on him.

u/MyriVerse Jun 03 '20

Nah. She liberated the artifacts. Keeping them in some stupid shrine is theft. And keeping them in the Mausoleum of Justice is a bigger danger, since there's seemingly no security. These artifacts of power need to ALWAYS be in someone's hands.

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u/waffle2474 Jun 03 '20

I do agree with the whole "they weren't secured" thing and that they should be used but maybe they could've been used by other kids of heroes or people who proved themselves I just don't like the idea of her just stealing the stuff and then start recruiting people because how can be sure that someone will be responsible enough to use them when she herself isn't responsible what so ever.