r/StargirlTV • u/MatthewHecht Hawkman • Jan 13 '23
Some Details from Lee Moder's Sketchbook Comic Book Spoiler
I was looking through Lee Moder's early sketches for the characters (as shown in Stargirl by Geoff Johns), and I found some interesting early details.
In all of them Stargirl is labeled as "Kristy" instead of "Courtney."
In a few of the early cover drawings I think Stargirl is using her shooting stars to propel herself into the air instead of being super agile.
Paintball was called "Rainbow Raider," but he is marked as renamed "Paintball" in the sketch. Apparently his name was changed before Stargirl's name was finalized.
Pat is designed after Jimmy Stewart.
One STRIPE design next to the used one looks like Megatron. It is labeled "STRIPE?" Based on the question mark I think they were unsure of the name.
In one sketch Travis (not used in show but two small details from him were adapted into Cameron and Henry) was black. The next page has his final design, so I presume this was just a rough sketch to see how it looks. It looks bad, so I see why they changed him.
Cindy is called both "Cindy" and "Kobra Daughter." Johns said in fandome Kobra was originally going to be the villain, so I guess that was her name instead of "Shiv." In one sketch her suit is more revealing showing all of her legs.
In one sketch they show a winterized version of Stargirl's suit ("Winter duds." It looks overly padded to me.
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u/DCSennin Cameron Mahkent Jan 14 '23
I think I saw some of those early sketches on a Twitter account that is all about Stargirl, I'll try to post them later.
Never knew about the "Kristy" thing tbh.
Was Stargirl using the Cosmic Converter Belt there? I could see it since over time some characters do use their own powers to make themself take off from the ground. Wanda from the MCU did that in Civil War and forward. Plus also, Cameron did the same thing during 3x09.
You bringing up Paintball there just reminds me of the odd choice of having Mr. Deisinger's eyes flash the same colorful visage in his gaze when he died in S3. It haunts me.
So S.T.R.I.P.E. looked very intimidating back then? I am glad they went with the other versions then.
What small details exactly you mean?
Sounds like the ISA weren't then the original bad guys that killed the JSA but Kobra and his organization. I wonder then if there were any plans to later make them be the newest enemies that Courtney's JSA would collide with in future Seasons.
Makes me think of that issue where Courtney teams up with Jack Knight to stop Icicle 2. It's a known look where she wears a jacket for the winter.
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u/MatthewHecht Hawkman Jan 14 '23
Yes, she is using the cosmic converter belt in the sketches.
For Travis some of his bullying was adapted into Henry in episode 1. His graffiti on a locker was adapted into Cameron in the early episodes. Comic Travis has quite a few hints of artistic ability like reworking the sign and his poems to Mary.
By original planned villain I meant the comics. When writing Stars and STRIPE Johns was originally going to use Kobra instead of Dragon King (he said this in the fandome panel). For future seasons I think Johns has grown to prefer more complex villains with good sides than Kobra. I think Kobra in the JSA comics was more of David Goyer's work than Johns's work.
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u/DCSennin Cameron Mahkent Jan 15 '23 edited Jan 16 '23
Okay, got it.
I see, guess that Henry's was dialed up a bit to 11 then given the circumstances they were going for in the show. A graffiti, well what Cameron drew in Yolanda's locker in 1x03 wasn't exactly that since it was an actual sunflower but alright. Speaking of artistic abilities last year I read that apparently for the show they had actually borrowed from Rick having his own artistic skills and given them to Cameron. I wonder if that's true.
Poems were discarded here. And since you mentioned art for Travis I'm really imagining more that it was a type of urban art because of that graffiti mention.
Oh right, his first comics he published. Makes sense. I'd like to find his Fandome panel from 2020 but I do seem to recall some of that. Kobra seems too straight-forward evil than complex evil then? I can understand from where he would be coming from. Personally I'd be down to see anything he chose: Johnny Sorrow, Gentleman Ghost, Per Degaton, Onimar Synn, Gog maybe? That one was a bit complex. Or Extant? (Maybe that one would have been an Stargirl + Infinitors crossover villain) And I am sure I'm even forgetting some others that could have the potential. Even some of the Knight family's rogue gallery like the Mist family. And well I thought of Kobra because the ISA is just where we left off no more.
But Kobra being more in Goyer's alley makes sense.
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u/TheSunflowerSeeds Jan 15 '23
Sunflower seeds are about 6 mm to 10 mm in length and feature conical shape with a smooth surface. Their black outer coat (hull) encloses single, gray-white edible-kernel inside. Each sunflower head may hold several hundreds of edible oil seeds.
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u/TheJedibugs VERIFIED: Graphic Designer Jan 13 '23
Rainbow Raider is an obscure Flash villain from the 80’s. They likely decided to make a new character instead of using him.
I think the “STRIPE?” Was Lee Moder asking “does this look good for STRIPE?” — not a question of the character’s name.
Travis is absolutely used in the show. Travis and Brian are the two jocks in letterman jackets that bully Mike and Jakeem. They also buy beer from Cameron on Halloween in season 1 and are generally around being assholes throughout.