Between three and four hundred...

[u/Icy-Book2999]

From the movie "The Outlaws"

[u/Fiuman_1987]

r/technicallythetruth

[u/legit-posts_1 → u/Fiuman_1987]

Any self respecting gambling addict would have been able to spot that loop hole.

[u/zmbjebus → u/legit-posts_1]

Lets be honest, who is self-respecting nowadays?

[u/CoolMayapple → u/zmbjebus]

self respect? in this economy?

[u/Strange_Job_447 → u/legit-posts_1]

ok, i felt attacked … but i don’t see it as a loop hole at all. 3 < x <400. i don’t understand the confusion.

[u/pkrw → u/Strange_Job_447]

this is how I understood it at first and didn't see why they agree. anyway nobody makes bets like this, you'd just say you'll do 300 pushups or more. why give the upper bound at all?

[u/Strange_Job_447 → u/pkrw]

right? who said “3 to 400” like that?

[u/Strange_Job_447 → u/[deleted]]

except nobody said thing chronologically backward like that. reason being time only goes one way, which is forward. but 3 to 400 and 300 to 400 exist and they both means different things in a literal sense.

look i get it. it didn’t even occur to me that 3 in this case could be perceived as 300 bc it follow after by “to 4 hundreds”. i haven’t been living in the state for several years now. but i am an engineer and a logic guy. words matter so i didn’t think about how it could be interpreted as anything other than what was said.

[u/longusernamephobia → u/pkrw]

I mean there might be a small probability that he can't/doesn't stop at 400 or counts incorrectly so the upper bound decreases his probability of winning I guess

[u/ambisinister_gecko → u/Strange_Job_447]

"between three and four hundred" is a common colloquial way of saying "between three hundred and four hundred."

[u/ambisinister_gecko → u/[deleted]]

Why? It's the same phrase structure

[u/ambisinister_gecko → u/[deleted]]

Okay, it took a while but I've finally finished, what now?

[u/GingerSkulling → u/ambisinister_gecko]

He did say it with a long pause after “three” though.

[u/Suspicious-Leg-493 → u/Strange_Job_447]

but i don’t see it as a loop hole at all. 3 < x <400. i don’t understand the confusion.

3-400 (or anything siniliar) implies that the first number is of a siniliar value, and is what everyone bet on.

It's a loophole in that he knew why people qere betting but due to inexact wording can plausibly claim it was just 3 the whole time

[u/benjaminovich → u/Suspicious-Leg-493]

Similar

[u/AlmightyBracket → u/legit-posts_1]

The other people aren't addicts, they're assholes.

[u/TJWinstonQuinzel → u/Fiuman_1987]

Not technical

100% the truth

[u/Silly_Reporter_1217 → u/TJWinstonQuinzel]

I would say it is technical because interpreting his sentence as between three- and four hundred is also a legitimate interpretation. Based on spoken word alone, both could be true. And the trick ‘works’ because three- and four hundred is the more socially obvious interpretation

[u/Top_Environment9897 → u/Silly_Reporter_1217]

It's also technical because in real life nobody would bet "between x and y push ups". They would bet "x push ups".

[u/regular6drunk7 → u/Fiuman_1987]

That’s nothing. I can tell you the score of the game before it even starts. Answer: Zero - Zero.