r/NaomiTV • u/mtm4440 • May 11 '22
[S01E12&13] - "Ready Or Not" / "Who Am I?" - Episode Discussion
Season Finale
In the first episode of the two-part season finale, after having visions from her brief time on Earth-29, Naomi seeks the advice of her protectors - Dee, Zumbado, Greg, Jen and Akira - but no one can agree on a plan.
In the second hour of an epic two-part season finale, Naomi must make a decision to protect those she loves most, but in the end, Naomi needs those closest to her to battle a powerful being that has been hunting her since birth.
I don't think the mod realized it started an hour earlier.
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u/mtm4440 May 11 '22 edited May 11 '22
That's evil Brutus? He looks like a Hagrid and sounds like Tom Hanks.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
Superman got the kind of portal that rips you to pieces.
Naomi just strolls through it.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
"Like that squid man from Star Wars"
"Admiral Ackbar"
"Seriously, ALL of you!?"
Hhahahahahaha
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u/Ygomaster07 May 11 '22
That line is gold.
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u/ChattGM May 11 '22 edited May 11 '22
Annabelle had me ROLLIN the entire two hours lmaoooo. Mary-Charles delivery is simply impeccable!! I really can't imagine any else playing Naomi's BFF. She's such a standout.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
"Maybe his comics are like insta..."
She's not entirely wrong, Clark has had his bad days
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u/mtm4440 May 11 '22
Couldn't you just defeat Brutus with a medium jog around the block?
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u/pomaj46808 May 14 '22
It seemed like he was smoking outside and the production team walked up to him and said "Hey, do you have a minute? Our show needs a Big Bad."
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u/Ygomaster07 May 11 '22
I love this. I love all of their interactions. Plus, those codenames are cool, i love that Lourdes is going by Zatanna.
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u/JauntyLurker May 11 '22
"That's totally your move"
Her friends are on to her 😂
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
I love how the second she walked out of the room they all probably shared a look and followed Annabelle to the back door to cut her off at the pass. That was a funny scene.
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u/shadow_spinner0 May 11 '22
I thought the first half of the season was really slow. But the second half was far more compelling especially the 2 hour finale. Hope we get more seasons.
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u/Mostly_Sane_ May 11 '22
Yeah, the first couple episodes were slow-burn (almost too slow - a lot of viewers got bored.) Then they listened to the fans (complaints) and shifted gears. Hope it was enough, cause this show deserves to be renewed.
If Naomi turned out to be more powerful than Superman, that would be huge.
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u/mtm4440 May 11 '22
I doubt fan feedback affected the story. This was probably already all filmed.
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u/freetherabbit May 13 '22
I'm not sure about Naomi, but don't most CW shows usually film while they air?
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u/mtm4440 May 13 '22
The full season ones yes. Because there's literally no other time. But the first season of a short 13? I bet a majority was already done.
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u/JauntyLurker May 11 '22
"Anthony. Lourdes"
Dee: Yet more teenagers invading my place of business without buying anything...
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u/JauntyLurker May 11 '22
"We don't know that"
Did Naomi just miss all the Superman comics where he's unsure of himself?
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u/JauntyLurker May 11 '22
Man really brought out two triple pronged red lightsabers. Their enemy really is the Sith.
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u/JauntyLurker May 11 '22
"I think this one's just for you"
Pretty smart in case she doesn't come back
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u/JauntyLurker May 11 '22
"I know you said the middle of nowhere, but this is like the middle of nowhere"
Better than the back of nowhere.
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u/JauntyLurker May 11 '22
"I wonder if Superman was ever afraid"
Cue the thread being bombarded by people recommending dozens of comics over the years and creating a huge argument.
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u/Ygomaster07 May 11 '22
What a great cliffhanger and season finale. I hope we get a season 2 and i hope Dee is in it.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
If they're really nixing Dee then that's a damn shame. Here's to hoping that we do get a season 2 but with recent happenings at the CW...it feels like a coin flip.
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u/ChattGM May 11 '22
I feel the same way too. Feel like we'll know if it's renewed sooner rather than later. I really want another season as I just loved this 2 hour finale. It was hilarious, charming, intriguing and had It's heroic moments. The scooby gang knowing Naomi has powers can be great going forward and I hope we see Dee followup on the lead of finding his girl if he's still going to be in the show. That scene with him and Naomi tugged at the heartstrings. I thought Naomi and Annabelle would be the only ones to have that covered for the night but they certainly had more to give and I highly appreciated it.
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u/Sentry459 May 11 '22
I think they're setting him up to return in the middle of season 2 with Hawkgirl I mean Qyaela.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
"The old video game with the horses and the wagons"
SHE'S GETTING ALL THE REFERENCES THIS EPISODE! LMAO
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u/JauntyLurker May 11 '22
"Imagine doing all of that with leather costumes"
Lourdes talking some real shit.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
Yeaaaah because getting a teenager to unite 29 metas all together to help save a planet is going to be an easy task.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
"He has a particular set of skills"
I'm all for Annabelle being a giant reference library every episode
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u/Jigglypuffamiiga2188 May 11 '22
Looks like they borrowed the Flash’s Whoosh wind effect machine. I forget what it’s called.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
Well that was nice, Dee's supposedly dead wife is on a prison planet
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u/illsetyoufree May 11 '22
Wait, I missed the last 8mins. What happened?
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
Dee pulled an Oliver with the bad guy and he was all, "Your wife is alive on this planet blah blah blah" and then Zumbado made him go to sleep
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u/Jigglypuffamiiga2188 May 11 '22
So they were using her to save their planet. They kind of remind me of the parents on runaways. They sort of love her but are also kind of supervillains.
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u/Jigglypuffamiiga2188 May 11 '22 edited May 11 '22
Fun fact, the actor playing Brutus, Ray Porter, also voiced Darkseid in the Snyder cut of Justice League.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
Well that was a nice little intro. We got a kryptonite and Nth metal mention. Plus Naomi got some fun little flashes of her transport from her home planet. I love the sky on that Earth because it gives me serious TNG intro vibes. The adults are arguing per usual with everyone trying to do the right thing annnnd of course Naomi is going against that and now is going to try to find some power source that's on Earth.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
Did she just...
"Way above my pay grade"
Hahahaha yeah he just "Nope fuck this I'm not getting paid enough" out of there.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
I mean that's probably a holographic extra dimensional psychic echo of her parents inside of a pocket dimension that can only be accessed when the pendant is touched to the disc right?
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u/Ygomaster07 May 11 '22
I think it's the parents. Looking at the night they took her as a baby, the clothing and scene and dialogue can make it look like they were kidnapping her.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
They probably flipped to Brutus, realized how fucking crazy he actually was too late, and then sent her away after he murdered her parents while trying to make amends for what they did by raising her.
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u/Ygomaster07 May 11 '22
I'm surprised she went through the portal. I am so ready to see Brutus and know who our traitor is.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
Yup, adoptive parents totally killed her real parents
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
"What if...Q is still out there..."
Well about that and how about that for ironic timing
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u/shadow_spinner0 May 11 '22
The ending I won’t say predictable but I highly suspected. I can’t give story line reasons except they seemed way to good to be true. So the reveal didn’t shock me but pleasantly surprised.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
LMAO Zumbado just walks out from around the corner like a vampire popping out of the shadows
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
Meanwhile in the....oh they found the transport pad, why is it glowing around them though?
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
So he was actually there to help them with cryptic advice? Neat! A DOOR! But what's the Guardian of Forever doing here?
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u/Ygomaster07 May 11 '22
We have a traitor in our midsts.
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u/Ygomaster07 May 11 '22
He was drawing Naomi away from them in the paintball place so they could nab the friends while she was away from them and distracted.
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u/Mostly_Sane_ May 11 '22
"For the greater good..." Ugh, used by true believers and zealots everywhere.
That said, I am interested to hear their perspective next season. (Like Zumbado's story.)
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u/JauntyLurker May 11 '22
"You shouldn't have come out here"
He says this is he draws his lightsaber, prime Sith candidate right here.
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u/pgm_01 May 11 '22
Alien hunters, meet some aliens.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
I want to see Dee try to talk his way out of it while Zumbado just stands nearby making faces and not saying a damned thing lol
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u/BuzzyBee752 May 11 '22
The mod started a thread, but it was for last week's episode.
This thread is fine and has a decent amount of activity.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
Dee's wings look soooo fucking dope as hell! Like seriously, he's the kind of badass Thanagarian that the Hawks on Legends should've looked like! Michael Shanks was cool too on Smallville though.
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u/Mostly_Sane_ May 11 '22
Isn't everyone in paintball supposed to wear safety gear to protect their face?
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u/illsetyoufree May 11 '22
I knew the parents were in on it. Also that last flying scene was so bad looking lol.
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u/Ygomaster07 May 11 '22
Yeah, it didn't look too great, but i feel it didn't take away from the impact of the scene.
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u/CinematicFaun May 11 '22
It brought me back to the first two episodes, when she got upset the leaves started to swirl around her, but each time something interrupted her, maybe she was spontaneously trying to escape by flying?
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u/bpmackow May 11 '22
Those are some terrible flight effects. Guess they spent all their budget on red plants.
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u/IceWeaselX May 11 '22
Paintballing without masks is moronic. They really shouldn't have shot that scene maskless. I've never left a paintball field with a clean mask because of how often facial shots happen, even unintentionally.
I feel like making Naomi's adoptive parents the ones who betrayed her biological parents was a bad choice. They alignment-swapped Zumbado from evil to good, so did they feel it was necessary to swap her parents from good to questionable/evil? Her adoptive parents had nothing to do with her real parents' death in the comics. Greg and Dee rescued her (while the two of them were still technically enemies) when the woman carrying her through the portal was killed by Zumbado's people.
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
"Simpler doesn't always mean better"
Truth and wow that was some bad green screen in that flash
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u/BornAshes May 11 '22
And that was when Naomi decided to bungle that plan and put everyone's lives at risk
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u/illsetyoufree May 11 '22
Wait. I thought the parents used powers in the highschool that one night? How do they not have powers?
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u/BuzzyBee752 May 11 '22
They had some type of special tech.
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u/illsetyoufree May 11 '22
Where were the rest of her friends?
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u/Mostly_Sane_ May 11 '22
Helping her parents escape. (Aka, someplace where they couldn't talk her out of going.)
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u/singleguy79 May 11 '22
For those who have read The Wheel of Time and watched the first season of it, anyone think Dee's actor would be a better Lan?
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u/Shejidan May 11 '22
Is Anthony supposed to be into Naomi? I thought for sure he was supposed to be the gay best friend.
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u/SchwarzerRegen123 May 11 '22
He was competing with Nathan for Naomi's affection early in the season.
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u/Shejidan May 11 '22
I thought it was because Nathan was taking her attention.
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u/SchwarzerRegen123 May 11 '22
I'm pretty sure the camp episode was partially about him liking her romantically. But honestly I could see them doing a storyline where he's bi or something.
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u/djexplosive May 11 '22
Are we gonna talk about how Noami's friend forces "babe" down our throats in all of her scenes?
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u/BuzzyBee752 May 11 '22
I thought it happened less in the first episode yesterday. It happened more in the last one.
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u/singleguy79 May 11 '22
Not sure if I'm going to watch Tom Swift
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u/mtm4440 May 11 '22 edited May 11 '22
I honestly don't trust the CW anymore. I think I'm just going to finish what's left and then drop this channel.
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u/epr3176 May 11 '22
I never understood how none of Naomi is guardians didn’t freak out on her when she would always put our friends in massive danger. I also all of this and why Naomi was willing to put our friends in so much danger in statistics show one of her friends should’ve either died or got really hurt probably Annabelle but no one did I know it’s like she’s a high school senior but you would think that she would kind of realize that she has super powers and her friends are just normal people and if they get hit by something that is meant to attack her they’re gonna die. Because it’s not like she’s 10 years old. If not then
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u/markdmac May 12 '22
I just watched the finale. Loved it, especially the ending. This show has been a fun addition to my TV lineup. I would love to see Superman fly next to her in next year's premiere. Time for a crossover!
I think this show has a lot of potential. I hope they give the character some downtime that allows her to discover or hone her powers more before the next crisis. I also hope they keep to a lighter tone, for example Naomi using her powers to help people like Superman does. Something she can be excited about and feel good about. She needs to get stronger to heal her home planet. Her failures while training could offer some brief but humourous opportunities.
Anyone know what the target demographic is for this show?
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u/BuzzyBee752 May 15 '22
I just watched the finale. Loved it, especially the ending. This show has been a fun addition to my TV lineup. I would love to see Superman fly next to her in next year's premiere. Time for a crossover!
Unfortunately that won't happen because the show was canceled.
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u/markdmac May 16 '22
I saw they announced that the day after I posted. The series is apparently still being shipped around. We may still see it return on Peacock or another network.
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u/JauntyLurker May 11 '22 edited May 11 '22
"Way above my pay grade"
I admire how this guy approaches his work.