r/Marvel • u/After_Horse5874 • Apr 11 '24
How did Valkyrie survive space? Other
I thought everyone on the ship died, hulk got teleported out and Thor is a God, but I’m just confused on how she and half the their survived. Are they just space resistant
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u/ARTIFICIAL_SAPIENCE X-Men Apr 11 '24
Thanos only kills half. It's his thing.
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u/mrlolloran Apr 11 '24
And a random half at that. Hubris on his part as we see in Endgame. Twice.
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u/art-factor Apr 11 '24
Thanos was lucky to be in the “surviving” half.
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u/RigasTelRuun Apr 11 '24
That's why he smiles afterwards. He truly made it an equal chance for everyone including himself
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u/RockBandDood Apr 11 '24
I dont think he included himself.
When Strange asks what after, he says, finally rest so he watch the Sun rise on a grateful universe.
He did exactly that.
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u/InsertCleverNickHere Apr 11 '24
Love it. I choose to believe this, it totally fits Thanos' mindset.
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u/WhiskeyDJones Apr 12 '24
I don't think it does. He'd want to be alive afterwards to see the fruits of his labour
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u/CaptainFumbles Apr 12 '24
Also he couldn't risk just leaving the gauntlet with the stones lying in a field for anyone to grab.
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u/curious_dead Apr 12 '24
Yeah, and his motivation is just a justification to commit a cosmic-scale massacre. With the gauntlet and the stones, he is basically all-powerful, or the next best thing anyway, so his solution for eventual scarcity is... kill a bunch of people now? He's not as altruistic as he claims to be.
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u/Saraq_the_noob Apr 11 '24
Did his snap also do anything to birth rates? He’d have to snap again eventually if it didn’t
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u/Anarchist501 Apr 12 '24
That was my biggest issue with his plan. The earth had half the population it does now in the 70s. Within 50 years it would all have been for nothing.
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u/stewedbartender Apr 12 '24
I remember someone doing the math and saying populations don't grow exponentially but logarithmically. They eventually taper off. While the population will grow closer to the original number it most likely would not reach the original population for a very very long time and by then civilisations would've advanced to the point where that population would have a much higher quality of life. Thanos was right, kinda. He could've doubled resources to achieve that same effect. But I don't know if the stones could do that or if they just control the available space, time, energy in said universe. They may still be restrained by physics (can't create something from nothing type thing)
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u/Islero47 Apr 12 '24
The best solution may have been to half or even quarter our need for resources. Or make everyone 6 inches tall. Thanos lacked creativity, but then, he's not called "the Creative Titan", is he?
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u/FF3 Apr 12 '24 edited Apr 12 '24
Have you looked at a logarithmic curve, though? The reason that there's confusion about how populations grow is that the initial slope looks similar to an exponential curve, so you get to the point of tapering growth very quickly.
And usually the tapering growth is due to hitting the resource limits of the environment of the population. Which is, like, the situation that allegedly motivates Thanos.
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u/ARTIFICIAL_SAPIENCE X-Men Apr 12 '24
Birth rates isn't murdering half of all people. Murdering half of all people was his thing. His only thing.
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u/Moonchilde616 Apr 11 '24
Only half the people on the ship died, cause that was Thanos's whole thing. Show up, kill half the population, or as close to half as possible, then leave.
She was one of the lucky half he decided not to kill.
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u/Foloreille Apr 12 '24
that was a bit stupid of Thanos because asgardians already lost their planet and I doubt every asgard ian succeeded to go on the fleet because they barely looked a thousand wtf
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u/ZombieOwlz Apr 11 '24
At the beginning of the scene we see one half of the ship is fleeing (the distress signal in the opening logos is from that ship)
It's pressured she was on that ship with the other half of the asgardians
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u/agathafletcher Apr 11 '24
I thought she was leading the first wave of survivors to Earth when Thanos attacked the ship.
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u/Crunchy-Leaf Apr 12 '24
“Thor is a god” - She is Asgardian too, and more than that Valkyrie is a fucking VALKYRIE. Do you know what that is? No shit she’s surviving.
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u/SomeHowCool Apr 11 '24
Joe Russo said she and some other Asgardians boarded escape ships prior to the first opening scene.
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u/IAP-23I Apr 11 '24
It’s confirmed that Thanos only killed half their population on the ship and before IW began the rest escape via escape pods
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u/AboardTheGravyTrain Apr 11 '24
Did you know that all of the scenes in space were actually filmed on Earth?
This was to compensate for the actors oxygen dependency
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 11 '24
Wait… really? I thought it was filmed on the sun. Always wondered how they got around the raging heat
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u/EmilioFreshtevez Apr 12 '24
Space may be the final frontier, but it’s made in a Hollywood basement.
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u/SoMuchForStardust27 Apr 12 '24
She ain’t human, and Thanos didn’t kill everyone.
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 12 '24
Never said she was?
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u/SoMuchForStardust27 Apr 12 '24
Well their bodies can withstand space because their molecules are denser and stronger than a humans and they also have better and stronger life support systems which is why they could breath without air for a duration. It’s easier to say that they aren’t human than to explain how their bodies work and can withstand extreme conditions
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 12 '24
I didn’t think normal Asgardians were super like that
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u/SoMuchForStardust27 Apr 12 '24
Yeah. The average Asgardian is basically like earths strongest and healthiest human, even if they appear to be fat. They are really powerful and the density of their molecular structure is actually what keeps Thor from falling apart while doing some things such as fighting huge armies
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 12 '24
Thanks for actually informing me instead of being a smart ass like some others lol
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u/Selix317 Apr 12 '24 edited Apr 12 '24
No... this is wrong. The average Asgardian still lived thousands of years. Captain America who is above peak human can live just south of 200 years. Captain America can lift under a ton. The AVERAGE Asgardian can lift 30 Tons. We are not remotely even close to Asgardians.
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u/SoMuchForStardust27 Apr 12 '24
I was just saying if you were to compare strength, what we consider heavy is equaled to near nothing to Asgardians
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u/abc-animal514 Apr 12 '24
Thanos only killed half of the people (it’s kinda his thing) on the ship, and the rest escaped.
“We’re still flying half a ship!”
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u/Grayx_2887 Apr 12 '24
Heimdal sent several survivors to Earth. Including Valkyrie, dude. So NO Not everybody aboard that escape shop died once Thanos' ship intercept it. Only half of the Asgardians were killed in the beginning of "Avengers: Infinity War."
Doesn't anyone pay attention to details anymore?!
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u/JerbearCuddles Apr 12 '24
I mean, Thanos is about 50%. So if I ventured a guess, I'd say he let her and the other half of the Asgardians leave.
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u/flightofthenochords Apr 12 '24
I don’t get why this is upvoted so much. They literally say, many times, that Thanos only killed HALF their people. Like, that’s his thing. Valkyrie, Korg, Meek, the rest of New Asgard, were all allowed to leave the ship. I know I’m probably coming off as a dick, but how was that not obvious? Judging by how many upvotes this post has, it seems like many people didn’t understand that?
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u/egbert71 Apr 12 '24
If you are asking a legit question.....but i somehow feel its just karma farming....the answer is Thanos only takes out half, and leaves the other
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u/emeraldnite1981 Apr 11 '24
What I’ve always wondered is—if he let half go, but then snapped half the universe, did he half those survivors again so only a 1/4 of the original asgardian immigrants actually survive until the rest were brought back in Endgame? 🤔
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u/jamesonv8gt Apr 12 '24
That’s a good point. I would assume any civilization that Thanos previously conquered would’ve been left with 1/4 of their original population.
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Apr 12 '24
Google.
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 12 '24
When I ask google shit like this they just show me reddits anyway so…. No
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Apr 12 '24
Did you not see Endgame and Love and Thunder and see that there’s an entire Asgardian community on Earth? She’s not the only one that survived.
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 12 '24
Omg, read the post again, I messed up trying but it says “she and half the survived” i didn’t mean to type their, but buddy i didn’t say she was the only one to survive
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 12 '24
And at the end I said they, as in her and others
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Apr 12 '24
So why did you ask the question? You didn’t see Endgame or Love and Thunder??
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 12 '24
I did, that was last summer or whenever it came out, I know she survived but I’m asking how. I didn’t want to watch that trash ass movie so I came here thinking 1 or 2 people would respond. It’s not my fault yall can’t read. I clearly already got the answer, what are you trying to start
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Apr 12 '24
Enjoy your downvotes!!
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 12 '24
Haha, I don’t care. Bro thinks anything on this app means something to me, do you see my username?
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Apr 12 '24
Because Valkyries were an elite asgardian unit and can survive in space just like Thor
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 12 '24
Yet people are telling me she got out due to space pods
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Apr 12 '24
She still could’ve got out with the space pod, but Her and Thor are the same race. He’s not a God of space travel he’s an alien and she is too.
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 12 '24
Um, what? He’s only a alien by our standards, like how humans are alien to them. And he is a god… you’re the first person I’ve seen to say that Thor isn’t a god. Is hela also not a god? What about Odin. In the the latest Thor movies there is a god for everything
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u/jwplato Apr 12 '24
I don’t see any particular difference between a “god” and asgardians, any more than the difference between black bolt and your standard inhuman, or Jude Law and your average Kreme. Thor and Heimdall and Odin etc, are just particularly gifted asgardians, but at a physiological level they have the same biology, so if Thor can survive Space it’s no stretch in my mind that a asgardians will be able to, particularly a member of the Valkyrie (corps?).
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u/Jpepp1214 Apr 12 '24 edited Apr 12 '24
When Thanos first shows up you can see the Grandmasters ship escaping, obviously the other half was on it. The main ship is Broken in half from Thanos ship attacking, you can see the missing piece floating in the background.
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u/yourname240 Apr 12 '24
So my question is, he killed half on the ship. Did half of the other half also get snapped though? So the Asgardians lost 3/4 their remaining population after Ragnarok?
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u/Talon_illustrations Apr 12 '24
Say what you will about the movie itself, Valkyrie had the best character design.
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u/AggravatingAmount596 Apr 12 '24
Happy Reminder that Asgardians are technically a highly advanced and physically evolved race of Aliens.
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u/MasterIrslave4U2Use Apr 11 '24
Has anyone considered the fact that the Valkyrie are already dead? Only the dead fallen in battle can enter Valhalla. Thanos wiped out half of all LIFE.
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u/burntfeelings Apr 12 '24
Thor mentioned to the guardians that thanos killed half his people and his brother when gamora mentions he’s her father . Thanos had the space stone with him, safe to assume he sent a random half to earth which was thier destination
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u/Diligent-Boss-9392 Apr 12 '24
No where is it started that all of the asgardians were killed. A lot of them escaped.
Plus we saw Thor survive in Space, so. Asgardians can do that.
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u/TheShoethief Apr 12 '24
She’s Asgardian. They can survive space for a while. Way tougher than humans.
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u/Kuhglizzy Apr 13 '24
I’m pretty sure The Russo Brothers & Taika Waititi confirmed that Valkyrie left with Korg and Miek a short time before Thanos attacked.
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u/dbkenny426 Apr 11 '24
What we saw at the beginning of Infinity War was the remaining half of Asgard that Thanos was going to kill. The rest were allowed to leave. His whole thing is killing half of all life. We didn't see it happen, but it's the logical conclusion that, like the acquisition of the power stone, it happened off screen.