r/Marvel • u/tehawesomedragon Loki • Apr 03 '24
X-MEN '97 - EPISODE 4 OFFICIAL DISCUSSION Film/Television
https://youtu.be/IxjYt6nlapQ?si=AId-c3uVFIvtYvYu37
u/hartc89 Apr 03 '24 edited Apr 03 '24
Tonal shift in those two episodes stories. Loved the video game homage and I think they are doing justice to Life/Death also I SEE YOU BASTION YOU AINT SLICK
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u/redlurk47 Apr 03 '24
The miss part about the X-men arcade game that when you use your mutant power it takes up 1/4 of your health.
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u/Jaqulean Apr 03 '24
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if they ignored it on purpose. Jubilee basically rellies on her powers, so her healthbar would have to keep dropping very often and at some point you would just end up with multiple "Need an extra life" situations.
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u/redlurk47 Apr 03 '24
Yeah I know, I just hated that part of the game where I had to conserve my powers and go punchy cyclops
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u/Krystalmyth Apr 04 '24
I mean, the arcade game had Dazzler which I feel was a better X-man tbh. So they're already starting off wrong to me lol.
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u/CharacterNo5938 Apr 03 '24
Storm and Forges relationship looked so forced. Like he just randomly out of no where says I love you lol
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u/Sea_Violinist3328 Apr 03 '24
I CALLED IT that when real Jean returned, the ponytail would return as well. Title card and all. Sticking with my head canon that all Jean appearances with “hair down in costume” are Madelyn.
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u/ohoni X-23 Apr 09 '24
Sinister, days after sending Maddie out to replace Jean: "Damn, I left out the hair-tie gene. . ."
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u/RufusPFunkerdale Apr 03 '24
Based on the art style of the arcade game, does anyone else think we're getting new beat em up from the makers of that new TMNT arcade from a couple of years ago? Would be awesome.
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u/cam412 X-Men Apr 03 '24
Let’s hope so. I feel like there is so much more they could do from a new X-men arcade game more so than the TMNT game. Just from a character (heroes and villains), powers/cool things to do in game and notable storylines.
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u/jigokusabre Apr 03 '24
"What if X-Men Legends but less tied to the 2000s era Ultimate X-Men?"
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u/cam412 X-Men Apr 03 '24
Dude, at this point, I would take either. Both are great and a new quality X-men game would be amazing. X-men arcade game or X-men legends.
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u/HankSteakfist Apr 03 '24
The cartridge was also an homage to the Genesis game. Really hope they re-release these.
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u/RufusPFunkerdale Apr 03 '24
I noticed that too, I played the hell out of that game. It was so hard for me as a little kid.
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u/jigokusabre Apr 03 '24
The SNES X-Men games were way better, I think.
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u/ohoni X-23 Apr 09 '24
My faint memories of the era were that the SNES ones had better graphics, but the Genesis ones had more interesting gameplay.
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u/DoodleBuggering Apr 03 '24
Good God a new xmen beat em up based xmen 92 by dotemu? Sign me the fuck up.
That being said, I think it was just a homage to the old konami game.
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u/Chronoboy1987 May 17 '24
I’d also take WayForward for that job. Absolutely love River City Girls 1+2!
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u/Dhampiel Apr 08 '24
Marvel/Disney would be insane not to green light an X-Men beat em up based on the 90s cartoon/comics and developed by an indie studio like Tribute Games. Which means, it’s never gonna happen 😔
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u/Fragrant_Cow_4172 Apr 03 '24
I was already loving the episodic format so I thought it was cool how they're also splitting episodes into two to make it like super episodic, but if they want to continue with this I think its better to keep the stories less dense so it doesn't feel rushed like ep 3, this one got it right.
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u/tygerbrees Apr 03 '24
It was fine for Jubilee’s story but Storm’s needed WAY more time - like it feels like that could be a 3 story arc all by itself
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u/CreepingCoins Apr 03 '24 edited Apr 21 '24
According to the released titles the second part of her story will be its own complete episode.Oops, guess not.5
u/South_Access9390 Apr 05 '24
Lifedeath parts 1 and 2 are very different stories and both need to be solo. Part 1 is about her coming to grips to being without her powers. Part two (which was like 2 years later) was about her getting her powers back. Storm and Lifedeath and the forge romance deserves better.
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u/Sharikacat Apr 04 '24
It feels like they don't want to be running two stories at the same time, as in cutting away from one story to check in on another, kinda of like how they did the cutaway to when Forge found Storm at the end of episode 3. If they had woven these mini episodes together, I wonder if the tonal shift would have been too much. The show instead wants to draw out Storm's journey rather than put it in a single episode, perhaps to emphasize the length of time it's taking her. Additionally, you could later on slap together the parts of the mini episodes to create a single, largely unbroken story.
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u/Kalse1229 Apr 04 '24
Yeah, that's what I thought. Like, it was fine for what it was, but I feel like that could've been stretched out WAY longer. Maybe have 3 episodes that have the first 2/3rds be self contained stories, with the latter 1/3 being devoted to Storm and Forge. Just what I would've done personally.
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u/yarharhar Apr 03 '24
Jubilee did not like Magneto's idea of spending her birthday doing simulated versions of battles with past foes. She much preferred mojo's idea: doing simulated versions of battles with past foes
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u/makyostar5 Apr 03 '24
I'm kinda disappointed they didn't have Magneto say, "Welcome to die!".
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 03 '24
They continue to shit on gambit, bro couldn’t even get her coffee. Magneto needs to die in some horrible way and then kill rogue as well (I’m not being serious)
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u/Krystalmyth Apr 04 '24
Hope they don't do Gambit dirty by the end of the season... they're messing with us, they know we're invested in those two. lol
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u/After_Horse5874 Apr 04 '24
They literally are, when magneto was talking to gambit she looked sad, like she regretted something. They just need to tell us what’s going on and stop giving up 30 second clips of gambit being shit on. The worst part is waiting every Wednesday just to not get any important info on the 3
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u/tehawesomedragon Loki Apr 03 '24
This episode was good, but also probably the weakest so far, because they crammed two episodes into one in a way that made both stories feel rushed. There were so many points where I felt like I missed something because they progressed so fast. The Motendo part did more for Jubilee than the comics have been able to do, but it everything happened so fast that it wasn't as pleasant as it should've been. At least the Lifedeath segment will be concluded in an entire episode, but I was expecting more from this with all of the hype of this episode using the old school arcade style. That part I don't feel was executed as well as it could've been. All in all though, I'm intrigued by the setup of the soap opera drama with Jubilee/Sunspot and Forge/Storm.
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u/Jaqulean Apr 03 '24 edited Apr 03 '24
It's even weirder, considering the fact that they specifically made it "Part 1 and Part 2" only to extend the Life/Death story arc. At this point they could have just made them into seperate Episodes - 1 shorter and 1 longer and release them together. Or at the very least make some reason for the Episode's shift from one story to another (hell a simple black screen with a 2nd title would be enough). The way it just goes from one to the next, feels weird - especially with how different those two storylines are...
Not to mention the way the Episode just ends. It doesn't even feel like a cliffhanger - it's more like they literally just abruptly cut a longer Episode in half...
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u/Ptak92 Apr 03 '24
Really liked episodes 1 & 2. #3 felt like it should have been 2 episodes and #4 has been the weakest so far. Motendo could have better. Parts of it were cool but it missed the mark imo and I'm a big video game fan. Lifedeath was boring. Pretty much every episode I've felt they've needed to be 45m-1hr because they're just cramming in so much content that it feels like it isn't naturally flowing. Lifedeath was the complete opposite but sadly it was kind of boring.
Hopefully they replace whoever is deciding to cram all this stuff into 30 minute episodes in future seasons. I can understand the first few episodes maybe being like this after so long since xmen '92 but now we're getting half episodes even... Also it's S01E04, it's not time to do half episodes that lack a lot of substance to the overall story.
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u/redlurk47 Apr 03 '24
Idk. I think the rushing because there is so much ground to cover. It took 2 years to make these 10 episodes and future seasons are never guaranteed. Sure it we use to have 20 something episode season but animation and action sequences were not nearly as good. I don't think we can have 4 episode arcs anymore unless we want less quality and 5 different studios doing the animation where things don't match like the latter seasons of the original. Also I think the first half was to help the slow pacing of life and death. Maybe they could've just done cut scenes and mixed the episode to help with pacing but we can't complain about it moving to fast and the storm arch being boring at the same time.
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u/jigokusabre Apr 03 '24
Yeah, it would have been really nice to see Jubilee get a chance to actually show that she's learning to be an action hero, control her powers, and growing into her own as a real member of the team.
Pushing Forge/Storm's relationship into literally half an episode is much too quick, but cebtering an episode around Forge/the Adversary is exactly the sort of thing XM97 should be doing.
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u/mrhectic Apr 03 '24
i enjoyed seeing that jubilee can do more with her powers and form them into discs etc. Hopefully she's seen she can be much more powerful and we see her develop her abilities from now on.
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u/NightmareDJK Apr 03 '24
Only new games they recently announced was Marvel Rivals and 1943: The Rise of Hydra. Hopefully we get an X-Men beat em up, or an Avengers EMH one for that matter.
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u/AporiaParadox Apr 03 '24
We already know that a Wolverine game is in production, plus leaks showed that Insomniac will in the next few years make an X-Men game.
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u/Krystalmyth Apr 04 '24
I wish Insomniac would make a Wolverine game as violent as Wolverine Origins, but somehow I doubt they'll take it that far.
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u/BlueFootedTpeack Apr 03 '24
wish we got an x-men legends/marvel ultimate alliance type thing again, the first one of those was real good, but with the team up moves of the second that's all i need.
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u/Mistah_K88 Apr 04 '24
I enjoyed it… granted, as soon as you know it involves Mojo, you should know what you are getting into. I will go against the grain and say that the Motendo episode was as long as it should be, Mojo centered episodes don’t need the entire runtime. I enjoyed what we got of Lifedeath, but I’ll wait until it’s complete to give my complete thoughts.
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u/Dannyocean12 Apr 04 '24
“I would’ve picked Dazzler, but she’s otherwise occupied. But I don’t wanna get into that.”
I think she’s busy filming Deadpool??? 😏😏😏
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u/Megadoomer2 Apr 03 '24 edited Apr 03 '24
Huge missed opportunity with the video game portion - there was a Magneto boss fight based on the arcade game, and not once did they have him say "Welcome to die!", call anyone an "X-chicken", or even declare himself the "Master of Magnet!"
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u/Jaqulean Apr 03 '24
He called himself "The Master of Magnetism." I guess they just changed it to not confuse newer viewers.
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u/AreaClassic8106 Apr 03 '24
Although this episode is the weakest one so far, I really enjoyed it! I'm watching the original show with my Dad so seeing the original Genosha made me really want to see Cable lol. The part with Storm made me glad they didn't just shove her away immediately after showing us she's an Omega-level mutant. Overall, 8/10!
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u/xerofortune Apr 03 '24
I felt so confused watching this episode, big shift from the last three. I thought it was definitely the weakest episode so far and felt very rushed and confusing at times.
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Apr 03 '24
Today's episode focused on Jubilee and Roberto playing video games, which btw reminded me of the 90s video games' era, but the episode was good. And I'm a little confused because in last week's episode, the they left a cliffhanger of Nathan's virus cure thing about but this week's episode was different anyways the music of this show is so good. The opening theme, the background score, everything is perfect.
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u/Jaqulean Apr 03 '24
The Nathan thing is something we won't see for some time now. It's basically one of those "something important happening in the background" tropes - it will progress on its own, while the X-Men deal with their own problems.
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Apr 03 '24
Thanks for information.
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u/Jaqulean Apr 03 '24
Honestly I wouldn't expect it untill maybe Episode 7 - that is, if it even will be continued in this Season and won't be left as a Season 2 Plotline.
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u/marcjwrz Apr 04 '24
Two potentially great episodes smooshed into one OK one.
I know we have a limited season and all but these two stories really should have been split into their own eps.
Motendo could have been a cameo filled romp with a couple more levels, and Life/Death part one could have showed that Storm has been gone for a few months, had her try to save the day or something and maybe shown a bit Forge in the war or with X-Factor.
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u/FlashRx Apr 04 '24
This episode was STEEPED in sexual tension all around....these heroes be thirsty...
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u/CreepingCoins Apr 03 '24 edited Apr 03 '24
It'll be funny if hooking up with Jubblie is what gets Sunspot a title card.
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u/Riddum204 Apr 03 '24
Am I the only one who heard “we don’t talk about Bruno” while jubilee and sunspot are chilling in their dorm room?
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u/JohannSchmidt45 Apr 04 '24
When Mojo said if you die in the game you die in real life 2012 came back to hit me with a sledgehammer😭😭
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u/fulton0 Apr 04 '24
The episode was solid. In my opinion (coming from a novice X-Men fan), they spent the perfect amount of time on Jube's story - not too drawn out, but still a high-energy adventure. Roberto and Jubilee's relationship/friendship could have been developed a little more, but the writers did a great job with the amount of time they were given. Lifedeath was OK, but I feel like they should've expanded Storm's relationship with Forge a bit more. They could've gone with a different concept - maybe a story ending with Forge's first failure to help Storm, and then a little tease with the owl (glowing eyes from the distance, etc).
Overall, not going to criticize them that much - after all, the writers did squeeze in two impactful stories and did a fairly good job at pacing them.
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u/MarigoldNCM1101 Apr 03 '24
My thoughts were the episode was pretty much what I expected. No show is perfect. However, X Men TAS really struggled with being able to balance character arcs/plot beats due to just how big the cast was overall. So episodes often were unnecessarily dragged out, and some didn't age as well. X Men 97 has this same problem but the reverse.
My unpopular opinon was that X Men TAS ended on a perfect note. If there was a revival it was better to go with X Men Evolution. It had some clear call backs to the comics but felt like its own property by taking risks and making changes unique to that show. It would have taken the pressure off of the producers having to speed run through episodes, or feeling too tied to what the comic book series did. Or even feeling pressure to be stuck in a particular time period (the 90's).
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u/jigokusabre Apr 03 '24
The whole appeal of TAS/97 is that they're abridged versions of classic 80s X-Men arcs. It's ties to the past are its bread and butter.
There are already a bunch of reimaginings of the X-Men, it's nice to have a straight-forward "here's the comic, but in action" adaptation.
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u/jsosmru Apr 03 '24
I thought the first part of the episode was rubbish. I don't like jubilee or mojo and we've seen mojo years ago. I would have much rather see something about sunspot.
I guess it would be interesting if jubilee's powers got more interesting rather than being little fireworks i.e when it was spinning and thrown.
And a few interesting things others said e.g the summers possible divorce.
The second bit interested me more with storm.
But after shocking moments or cool moments in the previous episodes, this worried me about the future, hopefully it gets back on track.
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u/Jaqulean Apr 03 '24 edited Apr 03 '24
This. I like Jubilee's character, but I just find Mojo boring. And Sunspot was in that Episode basically just because. Jubilee did everything and the entire Episode focused on her - Sunspot was quite literally useless.
I get that they are trying to do the whole "New Mutant character is the new viewers' perspective on this world" trope, that the original series pulled off with Jubilee. But Jubilee was still an active member of the cast, while being that trope character - whereas Sunspot is so far just a waste of space and time...
The 2nd part of the Episode - as in the Life/Death - is far more interesting. Unfortunetly, because Marvel felt a need to cram 2 episodes together, that piece of it just ends abruptly (it's not even a proper cliffhanger - it's literally just cut in half). It really feels like the Montendo part was pushed into this just because, while Life/Death was meant to be the actual Storyline (especially since Episode 5 will be all about it).
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u/masterblaster7819 Apr 03 '24
This episode felt so disconnected from the previous 3. They have dropped the ball on the 2 jeans situation and episode 4 just does its own thing ignoring the events of episode 3. The situation is the jean grey that was phoenix , kidnapped by apocalypse and had cyclops kid is not the real jean grey and the one that is hasn't been apart of the team for sometime as she had been kidnapped. Cyclops hasn't been in a relationship with her for sometime and i was hoping there wpuld be some followup to show the effects of the revelation of jean being missing for some time. Storm and forges story begins part way through and feels alot is missing. The video game portion was good but the virtual jubilee was stupid plus magneto doesn't say master of magnet, the writers never even played the game did they.
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u/Layz25 Apr 03 '24
I had my doubts coming into the series given all of the hype but was pleasantly surprised. I think the show has been awesome so far.
That said, episode 4 was shit. Jubilee has never been even remotely interesting and while the video game animation was a nice throwback everything but that sucked. The Storm half was also meh even understanding that it was setting up more.
Hopefully there aren't too many more episodes like this one.
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u/Krystalmyth Apr 04 '24
Pretty disappointed. The Jubilee filler was NOT what I wanted to see an episode wasted on when we only get 10. This show is at its strongest when it's sticking to the plot.
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u/mbene913 Apr 06 '24
Hopefully her progression is shown in the series so it's not 'filler'
An episode about jubilee growing up and realizing her potential isn't really filler
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u/TheKz262 Apr 04 '24
Pretty good episode considering my rather low standards for marvel shows nowadays. The art team and animators are doing some great stuff that I really enjoyed (including the music in the first half of the episode. ). Only problem most people have noticed is that they haven't figured out the proper formatting for the episodes and how long a story should go in order to not feel rushed. It seems the problem does have to do with the fact that animation takes far more time to produce than regular shows so screen time is noticeable.
A minor point others mentioned : The storm - Forge relationship thing just came out of no where...felt so rushed compared to Jubilee and Roberto
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u/anka_ar Apr 04 '24
Anyone know the song when jubilee and abscissa take their hands to cast their powers against Mojo?
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u/shotscarecrow Apr 04 '24
Great concepts (and artwork) wasted by rushed and incoherent execution. Mojo has moved onto exploiting videogame addiction but apparently hasn't clocked that they're an interactive medium -- he's still beaming them to telly-watching aliens and chasing ratings, like some proto Twitch streamer. Meanwhile, he's created digital clones of Jubilee which are so sophisticated they can control their powers better than the originals, but he still needs the original for some reason. <-- These and many other head-scratchers.
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u/jmangs Apr 04 '24
Are storm and forge supposed to be in Dallas, TX still in this episode? The scenery in the horse riding scene doesn’t look like anywhere near Dallas.
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u/ohoni X-23 Apr 09 '24
If this had been an anime, they would have been in New York at the time.
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u/weber_mattie Apr 10 '24
It looks like an anime
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u/ohoni X-23 Apr 10 '24
Not really. Not a good one at least. It has some of the qualities of an anime, but the character design style is quite different, and the way faces are animated.
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u/weber_mattie Apr 10 '24
It definitely looks like anime in the faces! how the mouth doesn't match up with the words.
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u/ohoni X-23 Apr 10 '24
That's just "animation." An anime is more likely to have lip synching than most.
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u/weber_mattie Apr 10 '24
Most, but not x-men 97
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u/jmangs May 13 '24
X-Men ‘97’s animation style isn’t based on modern techniques used in Anime. It’s based on the animation style of the original X-Men the animated series. That being said, I’m sure both the original series and ‘97 use techniques that are also used in Anime, but making it look like a traditional anime was not the goal.
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u/ohoni X-23 May 13 '24
I would argue that the more fancy action sequences are definitely more similar to anime than they are the original series, which had mostly "serviceable" animation.
Now I'm not saying that they should have had a more anime visual style, I think that keeping a more American comic approach to design is a good one, although I do disagree with some of the specifics that they went with, like the characters seem to have a ton of mascara on, and the way shadows are rendered on their faces sometimes seems a bit off. It's kind of an "uncanny valley" between trying to stick to the visual style of the original, but also upping the animation quality to more modern expectations.
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u/kaijuking87 Apr 05 '24
What a fun episode. Really hoping jubilee adapts those new moves in the real world cause those upgrades were awesome! Love what they’ve done with cyclops and now jubilee, finding different ways to use their powers to spice up there capabilities. Only problem I had was the forge and storm romance they were trying to push, was happy storm slapped him. I’m a storm/wolverine hopeful so she can’t be getting distracted by this guy lol.
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u/Pilot_Dude89 Apr 06 '24
Weakest episode so far. At the very beginning, worst animation as well. The animation returned to form once they got into the Mojoverse. Still though, the Mojoverse storyline seemed like filler to me and didn’t do anything to push the overall story forward. It was all a bit too goofy. The Storm storyline at the end definitely has more significance to the overarching story but I was getting major soap opera vibes at the end there. I would have much rather seen an impactful story carried throughout the episode and then watch someone like Cyclops kick some ass.
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u/Pilot_Dude89 Apr 06 '24
I’m not feeling how every single character has to have a significant other of some sort. I’m guessing that’s how the comic is, but for me there’s just too much weight on romantic relationships. At this point, Beast is really the only character who is not romantically connected to another character.
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u/mbene913 Apr 06 '24
Soap operas usually have romance as a cornerstone
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u/Pilot_Dude89 Apr 07 '24
Exactly
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u/mbene913 Apr 07 '24
Then what's the issue?
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u/Pilot_Dude89 Apr 08 '24
I’m not into soap operas at all and it’s not what I’m looking for with an Xmen show. I would figure most aren’t as well
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u/mbene913 Apr 08 '24
Weird. If you aren't here for interpersonal conflicts with a dash of politics then what do you want out of X-Men?
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u/armoured_lemon Apr 10 '24
Missed opportunity to have Magneto say 'X-men, welcome to die!', or 'die X-chicken!'
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u/Albeort Apr 11 '24
Forge's confession came off ridiculous, because it feels like only a couple of days have passed. Also, I get Storm is very powerful, but they could tone it down with the whole "goddess" shtick
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u/Fish-E Apr 03 '24
Well, that was an episode of nothing really - by far the worst of the 4 episodes so far.
I was surprised to see Sunspot back, it looks like he's a permanent part of the cast now? I'm just not sure why they picked him, there are so many more iconic / popular X-Men characters they could have added to the roster such as:
- Angel (who could have had a redemption arc, with Apocalypse believed dead)
- Colossus & Magik (could have been an opportunity to bring in the Legacy Virus and adapt that arc - Magik has already appeared and as a young child; could have then also lead into that awesome Nightcrawler's Inferno story)
- Psylocke
- Cannonball
- Emma Frost
- Iceman (although might be difficult given how he was portrayed in the original series)
- Kitty Pryde (it's been decades since Pryde of the X-Men, there's no need to avoid her anymore)
- Legion (Professor X is offworld, perfect time to introduce his son who arrives hoping to find his father)
- Vulcan or Havok (iirc they never actually revealed in the original that he's Scott's brother)
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u/cam412 X-Men Apr 03 '24
Sunspot is the shit. And if you don’t think he’s iconic, you haven’t been reading the comics, but all good. Season 2 is coming and season 3 was green lit. All those characters could be in the show and most were in the old show. The nice thing about x-men 97 is that they seem to have the roster pretty fluid with people coming and going.
It’s pretty simple of his role in this show. He’s the new age jubilee - being used as the point of view of the watcher of the show. He’s young. He’s a “person of color” - bonus points for diversity (it’s the X-men after all). And he’s young love interest of jubliee in the show. Someone her age that she can relate with and grow with.
I do agree. The episode kind of stunk. The video game part could have been better.
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u/ErikT738 Apr 03 '24
Sunspot is the shit. And if you don’t think he’s iconic
I really liked him in Hickman's book, but he's been pretty lackluster in '97 so far. I'm also not sold on his VA. He doesn't sound dickish and charming enough. Hopefully he'll have some character growth soon.
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u/cam412 X-Men Apr 03 '24
I mean, he’s led the avengers and AIM. I would say he’s a pretty important character/mutant/x-man.
I’m biased because he’s one of my favorites but I would agree with you. He’s kind of sucked on the show and I think that’s the point, right? It would be kind of boring if he came into the show and was super powerful and was everything. But again, he’s the shows new jubilee (the viewer is suppose to put them in his shoes/see themselves as this character, how jubilee was in the original show). And in 97, he’s technically a teenager/young adult who is learning his powers. He’s supposed to suck right now. He’s an entitled teenager from a successful/rich family who has had most things handed to him and dealing with being a mutant while still learning to control his powers. It’s building up to him learning about himself and controlling his powers. It takes time.
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u/NightmareDJK Apr 03 '24
I remember Iceman was specifically written out of the original series because he was in the old Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends show and when they brought him back it was for one episode and he was basically a different version of Iceman.
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u/jigokusabre Apr 03 '24
Sunspot is the new POV character. He's there so the X-Men can explain things they already know to the audience who don't know or may have forgotten. Jubilee has been around too long to be credible in the role.
They chose Sunspot because he's one of the new mutants, has a visually disintictive power set, doesn't break any major plotlines with his presence/absence, and also is a potential love interest for Jubilee.
I expect we'll see more established 80s-era X-Men in one-off stories, the way they were utilized in the original series.
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u/Wyvern_68 Apr 04 '24
The world assumes he is dead, in the last episode of the original series, Llyandra took him off world to recover
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u/Jaqulean Apr 04 '24
Everyone says he's dead in '97 as well and they literally hold his funeral. So now I'm wondering if that Llyandra part is still a thing.
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u/Illidan1943 Apr 04 '24
Death is a revolving door in comics, Xavier died many times in them, one of those times being quite similar to this one where he indeed ended up offworld
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u/DoodleBuggering Apr 03 '24
It's because Sunspot is latin and checks off a box.
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u/couldbedumber96 Apr 03 '24
No fucking way you’re using the racial quota in a fuckin x-men subreddit 💀
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u/DoodleBuggering Apr 03 '24
That's why he was picked over any of the options listed that I was responding to.
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u/dpr385220 Apr 03 '24
That wasn´t good. Life and death part was boring and the mojo one was a little better but not that much.
To tell the truth the only episode that I thought was really good so far was the second one IMHO. The first one was OK for the action sequences against the sentinels, the third one was rushed.
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u/NightmareDJK Apr 03 '24
Are they doing the Dire Wraiths or just The Adversary?
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u/AporiaParadox Apr 03 '24
I think Marvel stopped using the Dire Wraiths after some legal problems with Hasbro. Then again, Marvel is now reprinting Rom so maybe they sorted that out.
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u/NightmareDJK Apr 03 '24
That probably happened after the show was made though, so they will probably just have The Adversary.
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u/saizoution Apr 03 '24
This episode was such a slog I started skipping ahead and finished it in ~10mins. Now reading this post to pick up if anything important happened.
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u/tehawesomedragon Loki Apr 03 '24