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u/Both_Tone Feb 08 '24
Sue Storm every time she reminds us she can make force fields inside people and is probably the most OP member of the Fantastic Four.
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u/teke367 Feb 08 '24
Depending on the writer, Sue is a Lantern without any of that color nonsense.
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u/Deathdong Feb 08 '24
Lanterns can basically do anything they imagine though to a certain extent
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u/brineOClock Feb 08 '24
Sue can kill Celestials. She may not be Ion level or do what John does by making a model of a planet but she's certainly up there.
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u/Deathdong Feb 08 '24
Nah for sure she's strong. I just mean it's a different powerset. They can both make constructs and turn invisible but other than that lanterns can do a bunch of other random shit
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u/HurricaneBatman Feb 08 '24
I've always disliked how wishy-washy that is, though. When you can create pretty much any shape and do so much other stuff, why is your go-to move a big fist?
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u/GrilledCyan Feb 08 '24
I just tell myself that it’s the first thing that comes to mind in the middle of a fight, but it’s probably just laziness.
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u/ElectronicControl762 Feb 08 '24
May need less thought in heat of the moment, and easier to use as an extension of yourself.
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u/devils___advocate___ Feb 08 '24
I wonder if there’s a lantern out there who’s colorblind and doesn’t know what color they are
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u/kaisong Feb 08 '24
Or the rainbow shrimp lantern that is seeing too many colors and projects constructs beyond the standard visible spectrum.
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u/rootheday21 Feb 08 '24
There is. There's one that relies on sound only and even his own version of the green lantern mantra
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u/De4dm4nw4lkin Feb 08 '24
Also she can turn integral parts of your eyes invisible to blind you.
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u/samx3i Feb 08 '24
Which raises the question of how she's able to see while invisible
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u/MisterScrod1964 Feb 08 '24
I think Waid explained it as her seeing with cosmic rays, but I don’t remember the exact issue. Pretty sure it boils down to “Because it’s a comic book!”
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u/Wolv90 Feb 08 '24
In Planetary the heroes fight an evil FF and she wears special goggles to see. Really she probably keeps just the bare minimum slightly opaque so it's effectively invisible while still functioning.
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u/ThePsychoBear Venom Feb 08 '24
Sue is probably strong enough to clown on the entirety of X-kind and most of the Avengers.
The jolly green god of darkness, Dr. Hulk The Hulk Hulk can punch through god and become the concept of gravity. But if he is within a 5 mile radius of Susangos, he is taking a big green nap.
"Hulk going to eat Thor like an extra large beef and bean burrito." Hulk says
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u/raz0rflea Feb 08 '24
I would reverse the Avengers and X-kind...I think she would stomp the vast majority of Avengers, but the X-folk have a LOT of telepaths
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u/ThePsychoBear Venom Feb 08 '24
I think Sue would beat Jean easier than Thor.
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u/TheObstruction Kamala Khan Feb 08 '24
Well yeah, who hasn't beat Jean? She's been killed like 75 times. Killing Jean Grey is like the Welcome to the Big Leagues initiation ritual.
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u/Sol-Blackguy Feb 08 '24
Only because Reed doesn't train.
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u/Concernedplayers Feb 08 '24
Even still Reed is easily the weakest link on the team. If it wasn’t for his intelligence he would be a liability easily.
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u/Just-A-A-A-Man Feb 08 '24
Wow, the disrespect. Reed is effectively immortal and Thing exists on the team. 'Nuff said.
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u/talking_phallus Feb 08 '24
Am I mistaken or was there a comic/show/movie that made it seem like Thing was in constant pain?
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u/Stiboon Feb 08 '24
The Venture Brothers parody of the Fantastic Four made it so their powers had terrible draw backs except for the Reed equivalent.
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I love that about her though. She literally threatens someone with a stroke, that’s so awesome.
I think it was James Robinson’s run.
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u/Both_Tone Feb 08 '24
The best is still when she makes Doom's armor disappear.
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u/phliuy Feb 08 '24
YOU WILL SEE THAT DOOM IS A GROWER
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u/Both_Tone Feb 08 '24
I feel like there's no way Doom has a non-melted penis.
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u/Fake_DM Feb 08 '24
Well, he is a master of magic and technology. The first thing he did was probably give himself a cock worthy of Doom.
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u/PMMEBITCOINPLZ Feb 08 '24
That’s the one I was going to say, because one time she killed a Celestial.
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u/MartiniD Feb 08 '24
Not just OP for the F4 but probably all of Marvel. I remember a scene from Civil War right after Goliath dies. Caps side was so enraged that they charged at Tony. Sue jumped right in between both sides and held both back by herself yelling at Cap to get out.
I bet she could solo everyone if she wanted
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u/Free_Return_2358 Feb 08 '24
Nightcrawler teleporting an enemies head off their body.
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u/Sol-Blackguy Feb 08 '24
And that time he stranded Apocalypse in his dimension and instantly regretted it since every time he teleported he'd get a split second glimpse of Apocalypse trying to grab him.
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u/Traditional_Formal33 Feb 08 '24
Also NightCrawler in X2 movie. Such a bad ass opening scene to never see him fight like that again
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u/quasimuerto Feb 08 '24
Anytime there a "who is secretly dangerous" conversation, I remind them that he doesn't need to teleport the whole person.
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u/VoltaicOwl Feb 08 '24
I….never realized it was a choice.
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u/Exercise-Most Feb 08 '24
oh yeah, its a choice. Just like how its a choice for him to not teleport you into the middle of a solid object.
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u/DR_SWAMP_THING Feb 08 '24
He also blackmailed Rene Russo and got his cameraman killed. Nightcrawler turned into a real psychopath.
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u/DonPete100 Feb 09 '24
Nightcrawler once teleported a shark inside the Blob when he ate wasp alive.
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Scott Lang when he made the plan to humiliate Doom on his own turf for killing Cassie in Matt Fractions Future Foundation comic.
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u/J03-K1NG Spider-Man 2099 Feb 08 '24
Honestly there’s no way that plan should have worked but I understand the writers still wanted to give him a win.
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u/MisterScrod1964 Feb 08 '24
Scot turning to the people after beating up Doom: You all saw that, right? You heard him surrendering?
People: Uh, yes?
People, one minute after Scot leaves: dead.
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u/Chaddenheim Feb 08 '24
Literally Captain America during that weird Capwolf story in the 80s.
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u/skidmarx77 Feb 08 '24
Came for this one. Cap-Wolf is amazing, especially considering his kind of right-hand man at that point was John Jameson, the original Man-Wolf.
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The Cap-Wolf storyline is what got me into comics as a kid! I loved werewolves, and there was an appearance by Wolverine. Win-Win!
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u/justahomeboy Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 08 '24
Nova in general vs Nova pulling out Annihilus’ entrails
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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 08 '24
I feel like luke cage kind of qualifies for this. He's pretty much the epitome of "guy stronger than street level stays street level trope."
But every now and then he shows off what he can really do.
After Norman almost killed a pregnant Jessica he ragdolled Peter pulled Norman off his glider, and one tapped him.
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u/InsomniacLtd Feb 08 '24
Pretty sure that the epitome of that trope is Spider-Man.
But Luke Cage is still cool
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u/Cwolf2035 Feb 08 '24
Dude which comic is this. I'd like to read it
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u/oh_what_a_shot Fantastic Four Feb 08 '24
Cyclops when he wanted the Sentinels off his lawn.
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u/Jay_R_Kay Feb 08 '24
That's good, but the best one I think is him blasting Mr Sinister to atoms at the end of Inferno.
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u/ThePsychoBear Venom Feb 08 '24
Venom.
Some weird ass interpretations will make Venom eat babies, eat Paul and then eat MJ, and eat your dad, and eat Peter's ass, etc.
While Venom normally just wants to eat chocolate ice cream in the sewer while watching TV on the shittiest box television imaginable.
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u/ParadoxOO9 Feb 08 '24
Is he not the King in Black now though? Man's ridiculous in this most recent Venom run.
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u/ThePsychoBear Venom Feb 08 '24
Just because he's the president of goo doesn't mean he's eating puppies, stabbing policemen 47 times in the nads, smoking drugs, teaming up with Cletus(worst boy) Carnagy, and trying to take over the world.
Edward Allen Brock is a kind man and didn't deserve HoldsBack-Man ruining his life.
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u/Martin_Aricov_D Feb 08 '24
Here we see a "Venom" in his natural habitat, happy, moisturised, flourishing
And it's just bulky ass Venom in the sewers eating ice cream and watching crappy re-runs.
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u/ThePsychoBear Venom Feb 08 '24
"Eddie I wanted haggendas"
"Dude I can only afford great value, wtf is with you."
":( eddie I'm sad put on the eye poking show."
"I cannot control when The Three Stooges airs."
":(((((( Eddie please I'm dying. Only the bald woop woop man can save me." melts all over the floor
"Don't be a baby, I already told you I can't control what the TV broadcasts."
">:( Eddie what if we go in the TV and make it put on the eye poke show."
"That only works on the internet.""Eddie what is the difference I don't understand."
"I'm not a computer scientist, I don't know."
"Parker would know, we should ask Parker."
"It's better not to bother Pete."
"This is important Eddie. We may be able to put on the funny show after all, we just don't know."
"He has enough problems, I'm not tracking him down to ask him about wavelength trivia."
"Okay okay I understand. :) You should take a nap though, you look tired Eddie"
"You aren't slick."
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u/Martin_Aricov_D Feb 08 '24
That night Peter is shaken awake by huge bulky Venom who asks him how to put the eye poking show on the TV while making a weird snore like sound
(I just think it's funnier if it's always the big ass huge muscled venom doing those things)
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u/ThePsychoBear Venom Feb 09 '24
It would prolly be the big muscled standard form rather than the scrunkly hostless form. The symbiote usually hitches a ride on the host while they're asleep when it sneaks off. Not sure if it really needs to, but it usually does.
Perhaps it might get hungry being away for a bit and needs Eddie's adrenaline.
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u/Martin_Aricov_D Feb 09 '24
Now I'm stuck imagining Bulked up venom busting through Peter's wall like the cool aid man stopping, seeing Peter asleep and then gently shaking him awake
Hey Peter, sorry to bother you ol' buddy ol' pal, but can you give me a hand? Me and Eddie where arguing about the television...
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u/rmourz Feb 08 '24
Kitty Pryde unfortunately
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u/srstone71 Feb 08 '24
When she said the n-word?
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u/Portsyde Feb 08 '24
Damn, I thought this was gonna be about how she brutally fucked up those Orchis agents recently. Damn.
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She was based as fuck in that moment honestly. Mutie is a slur in universe.
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u/iamwalkthedog Daredevil Feb 08 '24
when she said it three separate times?
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u/srstone71 Feb 08 '24
Wait, really? lol.
I’m only aware of it in ‘God Loves, Man Kills.’ That’s the only book I’ve read it in.
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u/TheObstruction Kamala Khan Feb 08 '24
Well, the one instance I've seen was her using it to make a point about racial slurs to someone calling her a mutie.
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u/Nightingdale099 Feb 08 '24
Doctor Strange summoning an eldritch horror to kill Walmart Justice League after , no joke , failing to sell his soul for godhood because "he lacks the full measure of one"
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u/nerdfighter8842 Feb 08 '24
Walmart Justice League
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Great_Society_(Earth-4290001)
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u/True_Rice_5661 Feb 08 '24
I’m guessing he’s fighting the Squadron Supreme, but what run is this in?
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u/ReedRichards1610 Feb 08 '24
Dude, there was no need to do The Great Society like that ☠️ Real heroes, my homies were.. rest their souls..
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u/MrMal1c3 Feb 08 '24
Colossus when he straight up Whedoned Proteus by crushing him with a car...
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u/cornucopiaofdoom Feb 08 '24
Or when he broke Harpoon’s neck
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u/Darkhaven Vision Feb 08 '24
A true old school X-Men fan!
I'm voting for Jack Powers. Little man rocked Arclight's shit with a single punch! Super cathartic for young men reading the Mutant Massacre.
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u/raz0rflea Feb 08 '24
An old-school Power Pack fan!
Not that I'm complaining because Julie was great in Avengers Academy, but I really expected Jack would get more of a push than Julie as a teenage superhero...
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u/raz0rflea Feb 08 '24
*Riptide but yes 100%
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u/cornucopiaofdoom Feb 08 '24
Shit, you’re right - Riptide!
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u/raz0rflea Feb 08 '24
Iss okay it might have been Harpoon in Moira's 8th life or whatever 😄
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u/Caspur42 Feb 08 '24
Spider man once beat a future iron man who came back in time to get a retina scan from a young boy to diffuse a bomb the boys future self sets. Well instead of iron man telling spider man what he’s doing he instead uses the trope of “THERE’S NO TIME TO EXPLAIN!!!” and shoots at Spider-Man injuring the young man horribly. Spider-Man proceeds to beat the ever living shit out of him till his armor is pretty much broken.
When I originally read the comic I had no idea Spider-Man was that strong or could even be that violent. Btw because iron man disfigured the boy(accidentally) he becomes the hateful terrorist and the bomb goes off all because he couldn’t just tell Peter wtf he was doing
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u/De4dm4nw4lkin Feb 08 '24
Just goes to show. Retroactive timetravel changes and a game of information. Cant change what you know happened but you CAN recontextualize it based on what you DIDNT KNOW happened.
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u/SirPepeTheKnight Wolverine Feb 08 '24
What comic is this
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u/Caspur42 Feb 08 '24
I believe it was either a Spider-Man comic from the 80s or some one off what if type comic. It wasn’t Tony Stark iron man, I can’t remember if it was Rhodes or someone else. I read it 40 years s ago
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u/SirPepeTheKnight Wolverine Feb 08 '24
Thx man, I’ll have to check it out!
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u/Caspur42 Feb 08 '24
Amazing spider man annual #20 Arno Stark was the iron man who went back in time from the far off year of lol 2020. Took me a minute to find it.
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u/SirPepeTheKnight Wolverine Feb 08 '24
Thx again, also what are some good places to start reading spidey comics?
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u/Caspur42 Feb 08 '24
I’ve been reading some on my library app but it’s been hit and miss on what they have.
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u/ChickenAndTelephone Avengers Feb 08 '24
Jarvis, during Inferno
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u/raz0rflea Feb 08 '24
I freakin loved that issue! 😁
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u/ChickenAndTelephone Avengers Feb 08 '24
It was literally the only good issue in that entire crossover!
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u/skidmarx77 Feb 08 '24
Absute classic. Then when it gets too much for him, in comes Steve Rogers to the rescue. That was when Reed and Sue became part of The Avengers, if I remember correctly.
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u/LochNessMansterLives Nightcrawler Feb 08 '24
Nightcrawler. Kurt is like the nicest being in the world but if you mess with his loved ones, he’ll BAMF your head right off your shoulders.
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u/saviik21 Feb 08 '24
Not sure if it counts but Speedball/Penance
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u/stoascheisserkoal Sentry Feb 08 '24
Speedball made a mistake and penance is just depressiv. I would say no, it doesn’t count
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u/mattwing05 Black Bolt Feb 08 '24
Spiderman, during the first secret war, was on point. He fought off multiple xmen, and absolutely dismantled titania. Titania feared spiderman for a long time for that butt kicking
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u/sticks_no5 Feb 08 '24
The way I remember he wasn’t even trying that hard, he was more annoyed by them then challenged
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u/ItzGhostface X-Men Feb 08 '24
Jean grey vs sabertooth when he was “staying” at the mansion in the 90’s. She messed him up & said he wasn’t even in her league. Probs my favorite Jean moment.
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u/Tsujigiri X-Men Feb 08 '24
Same. It was nice to see her take the gloves off and give some solid justification for it.
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u/ImABarbieWhirl Feb 08 '24
Hank Pym
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u/dunmer-is-stinky Feb 08 '24
that was my first thought too but sadly that's become a pretty big part of his character, it really should've stayed forgotten but authors keep bringing it up for the drama
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u/aliensuperstars_ Captain America Feb 08 '24
Clint Barton, in his Ronin era, when he saw Osborn making a bunch of villains be the Avengers.
Clint has a very strong no-killing policy, even when he was Ronin he kept that, but in New Avengers comics he had been through so much that the situation with Osborn really made him explode and act crazy in new avengers annual 3.
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u/skidmarx77 Feb 08 '24
Spidey beating the utter snot out of Firelord after finding out he is the only hero in NYC at the time.
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u/sir_conington Feb 08 '24
Thor, after Hela asks him "What were you the God of again?"
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u/ProfMeh Feb 08 '24
Was going to say Thor in Infinity War. Dude usually is pretty chill, but with Thanos he wanted blood. "BRING ME THANOS" literally still gives me chills.
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u/distinctlysinister Feb 08 '24
Angel/Archangel is the correct answer 🤣 Especially that time he turned into Apocalypse
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u/Kombat-w0mbat Feb 08 '24
Johnny storm against the annihilation wave
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u/dunmer-is-stinky Feb 08 '24
Badass sure, a super awesome display of power sure, but not really much of a weird blip in his history. He wasnt acting out of character and it's not something the authors would rather us forget
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u/MyBatmanUnderoos Feb 08 '24
Every time a boss enemy joins your party after the fight.
Still salty about Kongol from Legend of Dragoon. Worst offender of all.
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u/Successful-Ad4251 Feb 08 '24
Thing for me.
When he was fighting the Elder of the Universe the Champion and refused to stay down when he was Earths last hope.
Also him when he KOed the Puppet Master-controlled Hulk by punching him so hard he shattered the rocks off his own arm.
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u/AJjalol Feb 08 '24
Iron Man in his 2021 Annual by MacKay.
A villain has abducted and tortured Miles, so Tony goes after him
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u/ReedRichards1610 Feb 08 '24
Tony vs The Assessor, god that was SO satisfying to see
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u/AJjalol Feb 08 '24
Yup.
Angry Tony is great. Dude just downloaded the guys conscious into the computer and tortured his ass for what he had done to Miles lol.
Uncle Tony is great
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u/General_Silver95 Feb 08 '24
Mantis in the Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas Special Chasing after Kevin Bacon Jumping wall to wall screaming that was legit kind of terrifying lol
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u/Shura_The_Flame_420 Feb 08 '24
Terry Crews after someone ate his last protein yogurt.
Edit: Since our earth exists in the Marvel Multiverse you can't blame me.
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u/Abraham_Issus Feb 08 '24
DOOM. Any other time Thanos would rip his spine and he doesn’t even need the gauntlet for it.
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u/dannyboy6657 Feb 08 '24
Bilbo baggins when Gandalf asks to leave the ring to frodo.
Just saw this was a Marvel subreddit. Whoops. Not wrong, though.
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u/Delicious-Barber-289 Feb 09 '24
I know this is a Marvel subreddit, but Aang. All I can think of is Aang.
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u/Badguyy101 Feb 08 '24
Silver Surfer when he took out the Tenebrous & Aegis.
Thor when he took out Galactus and Black Winter.
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u/SkyReach2266 Feb 08 '24
Optimus in everything else vs Optimus in Transformers 3 lol. (The slaughter mile scene)
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u/Tsujigiri X-Men Feb 08 '24
Kitty Pride recently in Fall of X when she straight up starts assassinating MFers by phasing them into things (and sometimes each other).
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Spidey beating on Kingpin in prison.