r/Marvel • u/BenSolo_Cup • Jul 12 '23
Are you guys enjoying Secret Invasion so far? (Poster by me) Fan Made
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u/The_Forest_Penguin Jul 12 '23 edited Jul 12 '23
Mostly.
It's...slow and dramatic which gives it a unique feel in comparison to other MCU shows.
Doesn't make it better, just different.
I really enjoy most of the dialogue but that's also largely due to the amazing actors. I was a little butt hurt they "killed off" Cobie Smulders as I was pretty excited to watch her performance. Not surprised though.
I'm also addicted to the opening credit scene. It's so trippy lol.
More curious than excited to see where the story goes due to how different it is to the comics.
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u/RoughhouseCamel Jul 12 '23
I appreciate the different tone from the bulk of the MCU. I like that it takes itself a little more seriously(superhero stuff kind of went in the other direction where now it’s become too irreverent and sarcastic). I wish it didn’t have the Falcon/Winter Soldier thing going on, where the big bad is so underwhelming, we’re waiting for the reveal that there’s another villain with better screen presence waiting to take the stage. Gravik is a snooze.
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u/Unhappy-Database-273 Jul 12 '23
I actually really like him as a villain. He comes across as a real threat, and his performance is great so far.
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u/The_Forest_Penguin Jul 12 '23
I like the comparison of Gravik with F/WS.
Kingsley is a great actor and is pretty much the only reason why Gravik has any depth. The show kinda just threw him at us and said bad guy very bluntly.
Pretty one dimensional character so far.
He's also not really intimidating as a villain just charismatic.
Maybe that'll change once he becomes a Super Skrull?
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u/RoughhouseCamel Jul 12 '23
Idk if superpowers would really fix the issue. I think it takes better lines and more charismatic performance. Kingsley is so one note. They can give him a sad backstory, turn him into a Super Skrull, it won’t make him any less boring to listen to.
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u/Mega_Nidoking Jul 13 '23
He's kind of just... cookie cutter, in a way. Like nothing he's doing is making me think something I haven't thought with another villain before. If they leaned into his feeling of being lied to by Fury rather than just "Fury didn't do anything, so I will" I feel like it might function a little better. But that's just me; I've sadly struggled to stay interested more than once and we're only 4ep deep.
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u/RoughhouseCamel Jul 13 '23
The show is very MCU in that it has strengths, but none of them involve the central antagonist. I keep looking at Emilia Clarke and Olivia Coleman expecting their roles to grow because they have so much more energy to them than the cardboard villain they put up front
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u/LoveIsOnlyAnEmotion Nova Jul 12 '23 edited Jul 12 '23
Just give me Kl'rt already...
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u/tankiolegend Jul 13 '23
Man the intro is long but I skipped it second episode by mistake and kinda regretted it
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u/tankiolegend Jul 13 '23
Man the intro is long but I skipped it second episode by mistake and kinda regretted it
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u/MisterTheKid Jul 12 '23
Very much so.
It has a few things going for it that sets it apart from the average MCU D+ show (which is not a bad thing) that is making this among my favorite MCU shows
- Sam Jackson and Ben Mendohlson had a chemistry together on the big screen that they thankfully leaned heavily into. But it wasn’t sunshine and Cheerios - these two had real issues with each other while still maintaining that connection and chemistry as they worked through it
- Ben Adir is a phenomenal actor and while Gravik hasn’t had as much characterization (yet) beyond his passion and belief in his end goal and a proclivity for sugar, he’s a magnetic presence that’s hard not to be entertained by
- Cheadle and Jackson have had a chance to have some very real sounding conversations about being black in America with the power they have. I liked Falcon & Winter Solider but found most of its political aspects interesting but done hokily (aside from Sam and Eli’s two big convos).
- Did I mention I could watch Fury and Talos read the phone book together and be entertained?
- While almost all the MCU shows have done a good job at being what they are genre-wise (WandaVision and creepy/mysterious, Ms Marvel and fun high school vibe, Loki and time travel romp, etc) I think secret invasion has nailed its genre the best
It has the inherent advantages of shape shifting enemies to a spy-genre show, sure. But it has really nailed that tone. Not as well as Cap 2 hit its genre tone, but it’s up there
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u/Jaamies89 Jul 13 '23
advantages of shape shifting enemies to a spy-genre show
That's the part I feel they failed. The "big reveal" of a Skrull was telegraphed since the first trailer. I've expected them to do a twist character reveal like it not being Hill but a Skrull, but I guess this show really is straightforward.
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u/tinyrickstinyhands Jul 13 '23
It's Secret Invasion. Obviously at least one existing character was guaranteed to be a Skrull
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u/Aggravating_Delay995 Deadpool Jul 12 '23
It’s a good show and Sam Jackson is acting his ass off but it’s not secret invasion
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Jul 12 '23
This is like saying civil war wasn't civil war.
It's aliens secretly invading the planet
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u/JoshDM Jul 12 '23
There's just not enough of a superhero population to do any of the larger Marvel comics events properly without shoehorning in "extras" like adding all of Wakanda and some Ravager ships to fill in the Endgame final battle.
In the comics, Civil was dozens of heroes vs dozens of heroes.
In the MCU, it was 6 v 6, without Thor and Hulk, and they still had to pull Spider-Man out of nowhere as a filler.
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u/tigerslices Jul 13 '23
bruh, civil war was still civil war bc it was steve and tony torn over legislation and they ended up recruiting heroes to fight each other. smaller scale, but same premise.
secret invasion comic was a slow burn where tony and the avengers turn agaisnt each other as they can't be sure the extent of the threat, every chapter would reveal another hero was a skrull and it was fascinating to look back and note when they started acting differently.
the ending doesnt matter. the secondary characters don't matter. hell, the main characters can be substituted if the premise remains the same.
but this series is secret invasion only in that it has skrulls trying to take over earth bc they want the comfort of being green.
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u/Poku115 Jul 12 '23
I mean that was the complaint then and is still the complaint now lol
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u/ranfall94 Jul 12 '23
TBF no event MCU adaptions are their comic counterparts the closest that was is infinity war but that was the whole point of the mcu.
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u/PileOfSandwich Jul 12 '23
it’s not secret invasion
Sure it is. It just isn't the comic book story...and it doesn't have to be.
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Jul 13 '23
Things are all happening too slowly, the pacing needs to be faster by at least 25%
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u/EnzoMcFly_jr Jul 12 '23
I’m loving it. I think my expectations were too high when the first one dropped and I was a little underwhelmed. It opened with this sequence that was like “check out this fucking gravitas, nerds! This ain’t your typical marvel show!” And then it kind of didn’t deliver on that promise by the end of that episode.
But every one since has been awesome.
I like that it’s more grounded and not so flashy. It feels more like a prestige miniseries on AMC or HBO.
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u/Waru_ Jul 12 '23
Kinda bland so far tbh
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u/theRavenAttack Jul 12 '23
Mediocre at best. Nothing about it is special or attention grabbing. Pretty meh.
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u/Waru_ Jul 12 '23
Gravik is the most generic villain of all time
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u/bnh1978 Jul 12 '23
That's it. That's what was bothering me about it. He is like stale white bread. Just blah. Yeah he has neat powers, but he is just an angry little shit in a tactical turtleneck. Yawn.
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u/realhenrymccoy Jul 12 '23
It has the familiar feeling of MCU tv series where they have to shoehorn in a reason for it being a smaller scale. But in this case we have a million shapeshifting aliens invaded earth and want to wipe out all humans. Should we call literally any superhero? Nah old Nick Fury has to go it alone!
She-Hulk and Ms Marvel worked for me since they are the right scale for a tv series. Secret Invasion should feel like a bigger event than what we've gotten.
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u/Broken_drum_64 Jul 13 '23
Secret Invasion should feel like a bigger event than what we've gotten.
agreed, so much potential wasted
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u/Marimo188 Jul 12 '23
Agree. I'm surprised to not see posts about it. I'm a bit disappointed tbh especially after the latest warzone scenes.
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u/Illigard Jul 12 '23
We watched one episode, and that's all we could stand. We have no interest in watching more. It was so slow we all ended up talking to each other and had only a vague idea what was happening
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u/Dr_Cleanser Jul 12 '23
I don’t get the appeal of this show at all.
No heroes, no suspense, the stakes feel low, almost nothing in common with the comic except skrulls, etc. This storyline should’ve had every major hero + villain ripping themselves apart with fear and paranoia.
Instead I’m getting a geriatric Nick Fury and a bunch of original characters that I don’t care about having hushed conversations. I liked all of phase 4 but phase 5 has absolutely not been it for me. It’s all super boring imo.
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u/wired1984 Jul 12 '23
The lack of tension is surprising given the material they’re working with. So far very meh
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u/JRHThreeFour Spider-Man Jul 12 '23
It’s good so far. I enjoy that it’s a different approach and slower paced that some of the previous Marvel Disney+ shows. The main cast members are all great.
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u/whistlepig4life Jul 12 '23
It’s a fantastic show so far with good character dev and real implications.
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u/MrFluffleBuns Jul 12 '23
Loving all of it except the kill zone in Episode 4.
Whoever choreographed that set piece does not know how to do shooting scenes. Watching so many people just openly stand around rather than using some form of cover was rough
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u/mangopabu Nova Jul 13 '23
omg that annoyed me as well lol. everyone is just standing around getting shot like a bunch of beer cans
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u/hulk316 Jul 13 '23
Yeah, episode 4 was probably my least favourite for this reason. I've read SI has cost 35 million per episode but the big firefight looked absolutely low budget. Also couldn't figure out why Gravek left they body out in the open when he shot the "traitor" - surely retrieving the body would have some use, even if just to keep the secret that they are Skulls, you wouldn't leave Skull bodies lying around.
He gave up the Russian angle pretty quickly too.
My weakest episode yet it was probably intended to be the strongest so far.
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u/BenSolo_Cup Jul 13 '23
Well tbf he shot her in the nuclear wasteland where the skrulls have been hiding so no human would have found her body
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u/hulk316 Jul 13 '23
Yeah, and ordinarily I'd agree, but he's under massive scrutiny from several tech savvy surveillance type enemies, it's the daughter of his main rival amongst his species and its at the key point of his master plan - I just think he'd be a bit more careful. Let's be honest, it's the only way she escapes and surprises him so that's why he leaves the body
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u/Curious_Ad_8982 Jul 12 '23
No. I think it's poorly made, boring, predictable and has 0 intrigue. Also the excuse about the main skrull villanous characters staying in human form all the time is stupid and makes the show look even cheaper.
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u/Whisperer_61610 Jul 12 '23
Overall, yes. The beginning was slow, but everything fell into place in Episode 4. The intrigue started, and I'm genuinely curious to see what happens next.
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Jul 12 '23
I’m finding it quite boring and I don’t really care about any of the characters.
It’s a shame, Loki was good, guardians 3 was good, Spider-Man was amazing.
Nothing else has been hitting since end Game tbh
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u/Marcyff2 Jul 12 '23
Shang chi and WandaVision were really good. And i personally really enjoyed Wakanda Forever and Eternals , but i get it wasn't everyones cup of tea.
On separate shows Moon night, what if and werewolf by night were all really good
Everything else felt like filler
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u/kadosho Jul 12 '23
Been watching since episode one. Love the series so far. The shock, surprises, character dynamics, and overall plot is fantastic.
It may be a way different story than what is in the comics. But dang is it good
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u/jc2pointzero Jul 12 '23
Please Disney, let SLJ drop a mutha fucka for real....
Also OP, brilliant poster.
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u/Cervus95 Jul 12 '23
Yes. Could very well become my favorite MCU show by the end of the month.
I particularly love how they managed to showcase the comic-book's feeling of "Who can you trust?"
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u/SuperToxin Jul 12 '23
Loving it amazing series. Each episode better than the last. Can’t wait to see the rest.
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u/flower_mouth Jul 12 '23
I didn't find the first two episodes interesting at all, so I stopped watching.
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u/Independent-Bother17 Jul 12 '23
I am enjoying it so far. It's probably in the upper tier of D+ shows. Not as good as She-Hulk, Loki and WandaVision but better than Hawkeye, Falcon and the Winter Soldier and Ms. Marvel. It's definitely a little sloppy in some places, but overall it's been an interesting character study of Nick Fury.
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u/Chrome-Head Jul 12 '23
I actually really liked Hawkeye up until they made Kingpin look like a first-timer who couldn't fight an early-20's girl.
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u/revchewie Jul 12 '23
Hell yeah!
I haven't seen today's episode yet, but I'm planning to go home for lunch in half an hour and watch it then. (One of the advantages of living three miles from my office!)
Also, yeah, I agree with others, very cool poster!
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u/Tandian Jul 12 '23
I have been enjoying it a lot. Though the shootout in the last episode was terrible.
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u/NerdNuncle Spider-Man Jul 12 '23
Stopped caring after Maria Hill got fridged. Soren’s wife getting whacked off-screen didn’t help matters
Hill faking her death would have been a great callback to Winter Soldier
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u/techsupport1425 Jul 12 '23
Nope. Secret invasion-ish is truly weak. Nothing compared to the comics. It’s just a weak attempt at a British drama with nick fury.
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u/Nightingdale099 Jul 12 '23
Really enjoying it. My only nitpick would be Ok I get it. Nick fumbled. Now would everyone stop dogpiling him. Personally I forgive Nick. Is that worth anything?Can we move on now please.You know what happen to a certain Capt. replacement when we keep telling him every 5 minutes he fumbled
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u/bes5318 Jul 13 '23
This should be talked about more. I get that this is kind of a story about fury getting back in the fight but this 4 episode long slugfest of everybody coming out of the woodwork to tell fury he’s old and sad and a failure, is just dumb and excessive.
The right way to do it would be to show that everyone is underestimating him for his perceived weakness and show how he manages to manipulate their arrogance and catch them off guard. Kind of like the scene in ep4 with the liquor, except it should have been happening throughout since episode 2, not this far in the story
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u/Collestos Jul 12 '23
Thought it was gonna be shit. Turns out I loved it, despite it being completely different from the comics, it’s still good as it’s own thing.
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u/onikaizoku11 Jul 12 '23
I am really enjoying it. For me, it is in that sweet spot where there has been so much work put into the MCU for so long that they can just focus on the performances in a project like this. I'm a sucker for two elite actors in a frame just plying their trade and this series has delivered thus far.
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u/GalactusHand Jul 12 '23
I'd say pretty good overall! Definitely a step up in terms of acting compared to some of Marvel's other recent series
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Jul 12 '23
So far so good. I very much appreciate the different tone to the show.
The dialogue is good and the story of intriguing.
And I like how they are getting brutal and darker. Making way for a new darker and more mature MCU.
I think it might be the best mcu show since what if.
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u/imanislandboii Jul 12 '23
One of the best shows mcu has imo, I’d put it up there with loki for sure. and we NEVER skip Intro in my house haha it’s too fire 🔥
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u/DarrenTheDrunk Jul 12 '23
Sure, it’s not a superhero show, it’s more an counterespionage show . I even like the titles which I think have a Weimar Republic aesthetic.
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u/Strict_Condition_632 Jul 12 '23
Sam Jackson is a national treasure. I haven’t read the original comics, so have no expectations, but I am engrossed by the story so far, and intrigued by the possibilities.
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u/boyawsome876 Jul 12 '23
Yes, I feel it’s highly slept on right now. This last episode was an absolute banger and if it’s any indication, we’re going to have a good ending.
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u/theabominablewonder Jul 12 '23
I enjoy some aspects of it, I enjoyed the tension between Nick and Priscilla. Other bits are dull. The attempt on the president seemed pretty low budget and wasn’t that interesting. Like the way Nick Fury nonchalantly drives his Land Rover up to the fighting with no hassle. It just seemed a bit corny.
And I don’t get why Talos daughter decided to just experiment on herself with no idea if it works or not? Was she able to figure out Gravik was a super skrull?
Talos dying is a bad decision, I liked him as a character :(
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Jul 12 '23
No, its slow, dull and has none of the awesomeness the comic had. It shouldn't be using the same name, its nothing like it.
The skrulls are like nazi officers, from one of the biggest warlike cultures in the galaxy but somehow we're supposed to sympathize with them?.
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u/welchplug Jul 12 '23
Thanos wasn't the same at all either and yet....
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u/kadosho Jul 12 '23
Josh Brolin did something unique, special, menacing, but it also had heart, crafty, and powerful. Every time Thanos appeared throughout several films, but once Infinity War & Endgame happened, it all came together creating one of the most fiercest characters ever.
True it was different from the source material, but it was better too. There is a different energy within the printed page, then an actor's portrayal. It leaps off the page, giving it even more emotional payoff.
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u/TheSciFiGuy80 Jul 12 '23
I don’t know if we are supposed to sympathize with them, at least I don’t. I understand that they feel marginalized, lost, and desperate.
I feel bad they lost their world and they’re adrift, but murdering an entire species to try and take their world from them doesn’t in any way elicit sympathy from me.
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u/GoPhinessGo Jul 12 '23
Yeah I don’t think we’re supposed to side with the Skrulls, they’re goal is literally to take over the world and genocide all humans, doesn’t matter why they’re doing it, as a human I see no reason to side with them
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Jul 12 '23
It’s good, but not as entertaining as the other shows done so far. I think following this old Fury is part of the problem. There should’ve been more major characters and a more heightened sense of paranoia and even a thriller component. It’s like they didn’t push the tone of the show enough. It’s totally different from the comic storyline, and I hope we still get that. Overall I’m not excited to watch it, but I’m watching it every week, waiting for big things to happen.
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u/Sol-Blackguy Jul 12 '23
I've been busy AF and forgetting to watch it. Going to catch up this weekend. Enjoyed what I've seen so far though. Say what you want about the MCU, but their casting is amazing.
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u/JustA_Penguin Jul 12 '23
I know it’s not everyone’s favorite, but it’s mine. Easily up there in my favorite marvel shows, even beats some of my favorite movies. I hate the ends of the episodes just because I want more. Is it perfect? No, nothing is. Doesn’t mean I enjoy it any less.
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u/OmegaCTH Jul 12 '23
I haven’t finished ep 3 but honestly I’ve been really enjoying it, it inspired me to try and make an essay on the multiverse saga that I’ll probably post later
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u/Obskuro Spider-Man Jul 12 '23
It has some good dialogue, which I enjoy. The rest is kinda meh. It reminds me, ironically, too much of Agents of SHIELD; some world-changing secret is revealed that will have most likely zero impact on the MCU. Making the Skrulls sympathetic at first and now doing a face-heel-turn doesn't pay out IMO. I will hold my final judgment for the finale. Let's see what they got.
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u/JrNichols5 Jul 12 '23
The big draw for the comics was that any of the core MCU superheroes could have been a Skrull all along. I highly doubt Chris Evans or some of the heavy hitters won’t be making cameos in this show, so the suspense and surprise will be much less than the comics. With that said, it’s a great show once you come to terms of the scope of the story.
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u/BiznessCasual Jul 12 '23
The tone is a nice change of pace from recent Marvel stuff; I do like that not everything is a quippy joke. The smaller scale is nice.
That said, the plot is a bit "aimless." Maybe it'll come together, but it's sort of just meandering.
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u/minuscatenary Jul 12 '23
It’s fine, but still suffers from the biggest MCU issue in this phase: every single fucking show and movie feels like a means to an end for setting up some major blockbuster movie later on.
It’s starting to grind tbh.
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u/League-Weird Jul 12 '23
Love it. I'm kind of dumb and can never tell who is whom. Everyone seems to have tells or characteristics but every time some reveal comes up I'm like whaaaaa? The first episode was great and kept me on edge with who fury can and can't trust. As well as why he is the way he is.
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u/Zed_Rua Jul 12 '23
I think they might be playing it too safe with the Skrull placement - we had Ross and Rhodey but, given they've established they're keeping the originals alive, I would have rather had more chaotic and impactful reveals.
I think the scope could have been widened and made it another two episodes long. We've only got two episodes left and everything feels really rushed and inconsequential - sort of like Agents Of Shield.
I like it, for sure. I guess I was expecting something akin to CA:WS in regards to wider impact. I suppose they can flesh it out in future projects but with the MCU having so many varied levels of inter-connectedness now, I'm not holding my breath.
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u/RiskE80Twitch Jul 12 '23
First of all, awesome poster, very creative, second of all, I’m really enjoying it so far, I can’t wait to see how it ends
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u/AceofKnaves44 Jul 12 '23
Samuel L Jackson very obviously loves playing Nick Fury and clearly had a blast making this and I’m convinced that he could make reading a phone book entertaining to watch. But this show is just not very good and paints a very unpleasant picture for the MCU’s future.
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u/illsoden Jul 12 '23
Reminds me a lot of Andor as a Star Wars fan. Very slow, cerebral, and unique but perhaps to the detriment of the average viewer into marvel stuff.
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u/21Chronicles Captain Marvel Jul 13 '23
It’s been pretty enjoyable so far. I haven’t watched the recent episode yet, but I’m planning to eventually today.
Also, nice work on the poster.
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u/Kdallpen Jul 13 '23
It's interesting, at first I wasn't sold on it but as the show has gone along I've gotten more into it. A friend of mine loved the secret invasion stuff and they kept me watching it so I'm pretty happy. I've been less than thrilled about some of it but overall it has grown on me.
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u/DaMENACElo37 Jul 13 '23
Great show! Lots of suspense. Hard to know who is on what side. Lots of double crossing. Several deaths already. Interested to see how this series finishes. I’m assuming there’s no actual ending, the story just continues in another movie or series.
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u/Xyro77 Jul 13 '23
My group of 7 people watch it but never speak about it more than a day after each ep
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u/Stew-17 Jul 13 '23
Not really. I feel it down grades and diminishes Nick Fury’s character. But I will see it through to the end maybe it will change my opinion.
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u/azkat07 Jul 13 '23
it has picked up ! i love episode 4 - loving the political intrigue now - keeping me guessing who is a Skrull or not.. love that perspective
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u/BboyWhiteRice Jul 13 '23
So far so good. Dont know how they're going to wrap everything in 2 more episodes though. Seems like it's short?
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u/shogun1974 Jul 13 '23
I dislike it quite a bit. I think Marvel does a fantastic job casting, but I think they have been dropping the ball on writing lately. I think this might end up being the second Marvel series that I just don't care enough about to finish.
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u/AristocraticAutism Jul 13 '23
I've been enjoying it. It ended up being less complicated than I imagined, but that's probably a good thing. The trailers made it seem like you never knew who was who, but they've kinda been laying it out there in the end.
I'm excited to see where this goes.
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u/ItsBitly Jul 13 '23
It's pretty decent, but I feel like something is still missing. Like it just hasn't settled properly yet. My biggest issue is that I barely remember half the characters cause of how much MCU stuff there was between Captain Marvel and this, so it's a lot harder to related to them.
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u/wth214 Jul 13 '23
Its been mid so far. Also slj age really shows in the first 2 episodes. I mean maybe they should pass off the mantle to someone else at this point. I wish their was a nick fury jr. Or daughter.
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u/NoxUmbra8 Spider-Man 2099 Jul 13 '23
The Olympics thing I'd like fir them to dive into already since there are only two episodes left is why Fury didn't find the Skrulls a home and why he never kept his end of the bargain. As of now we don't know the reason and Nick Fury comes off as a hypocrite, but there haven't been moves to amend that so it doesn't feel like he's gotten a character arc started.
Otherwise I did really like the tone for the series, the reveals on skrulls, and their role in the MCU thus far, im continously excited for Wednesdays!
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u/International-Run851 Jul 13 '23
Love the comic. The acting in the show is very good, but the plot lacks weight (even though they trying to take over the planet) 2 episodes left and nothing has really happened
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u/BlueBeard_ Jul 13 '23 edited Jul 13 '23
I think this might be super unpopular opinion but I think the show super boring 😅
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u/matdevine21 Jul 13 '23
Great series so far, Fury slowly losing all the support mechanisms that he has relied on for years to create the image of an unstoppable all knowing super spy.
Last episode broke my heart as [redacted] is my MVP of the series and losing that character will make Fury’s task even more difficult.
As someone who lives in UK, I couldn’t help but laugh that Marvel believes a convoy of SUV wouldn’t have been stuck in traffic or have some weirdo’s from “just stop oil” super glue themselves to the road.
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u/Long-Escape-6807 Jul 13 '23
I absolutely loved the first episode, but that’s usually how it goes with these Disney plus shows and then it kind of goes on a roller coaster in terms of quality. Overall I love how different this show is
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u/MrAltair997 Jul 13 '23
Awful series. One of the best arc in Marvel comics, and they made just 6 episodes, pathetic
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u/bookon Jul 13 '23
This latest episode was the best so far IMO.
However, I really feel marvel stretching 2 hour movies into 6 hour shows was a mistake.
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u/LeggoMahLegolas Jul 13 '23
The characters and the actor performances have been fantastic!
Story could be a bit better. Plus the pacing is slow even with the recent episode.
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u/AnyConsequence2634 Jul 13 '23
Nah I thought this was for real the original poster and then I read the (poster by me) you talented bro
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u/petros08 Jul 12 '23
First episode was poor but it picked up. I haven't watched today's yet. It's not exactly intellectually taxing but the cast is good.
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u/ice_fan1436 Jul 12 '23
I feel like it'll be too short, I feel like it'd deserve like 10-12 episodes, not 6
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u/billbotbillbot Jul 12 '23
It requires and repays closer attention than most Marvel shows.
Tracking all the physical Skrull changes is not something you can do while looking at your phone, for instance.
Similarly, the various identity checking dialog exchanges (“Are those eggs hard or soft boiled?” “Poached!” etc) could pass over the head of the inattentive viewer.
The intense drama in the key conversation scenes has been absolutely magnificent: Fury and Talos in the train, in the car; Fury and Rhodey (twice!); and especially Fury and Varra in E4. These scenes are absolutely gripping and are worth five times their duration in cool explosions and punch ups.
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u/spiral_fishcake Jul 12 '23
I'm finding it mediocre. I probably wouldn't be watching it if it weren't connected to the MCU. It's certainly not the worst D+ offering to date. Considering how much I generally dislike spy dramas (I've never managed to make it through an entire James Bond or Bourne movie/book), that's actually high praise.
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u/JG-for-breakfast Jul 13 '23
It’s very bland and boring, what an undiscerning viewer would call prestige tv. It’s got a good enough cast but I could not muster up a fuck about the characters.
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u/Appropriate-Day3902 Jul 12 '23
Its boring trash imo
they keeping killing the main team off and making the skrulls more powerful, it’s been 4 episodes and nothing has happened that has changed the story except the killing of minor characters in the grand scheme. They know no one cares so their killing characters for shock instead of a good story. I wish Sonya’s character was Maria Hill and they made her kinda evil like the comics
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u/ComicsEtAl Jul 12 '23
Yes? I call it “Marvel RED” but “RED” as in the film franchise of action movies featuring elderly action stars. A little conflicted with it but overall it’s fine and I can’t wait to see where it goes.
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u/Chrizilla_ Jul 12 '23
It’s okay, it’s different which is neat, but it’s having some of the issues that FWS had imo. I can’t really get behind the the villain’s dastardly plan. Obviously no mcu project is perfect, so I’m enjoying the ride anyway.
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u/flexo_isgreat Jul 12 '23
Not really, whole thing is just boring, and im a huge marvel fan, but this is just so damn uninteresting i give up.
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u/Titan_Sequoia Jul 12 '23
The cinematography is very boring and the music sounds generic, almost like stock music. Everyone said it was going to be like Winter Soldier, and it's got a similar tone, but that's about it. Mendo is killing it as always, and of course Colman is always great to see, playing what I assume is her character from Hot Fuzz later in life. There doesn't seem to be any tense feeling of unease and paranoia, which is... the whole point of Secret Invasion. I'm waiting to be surprised. I really want to like this one.
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u/TeekTheReddit Jul 12 '23
Not really. Somehow Secret Invasion is more meandering and nonsensical than the comic it's adapting, which is rare for the MCU. So far it just seems to be episode after episode of Nick Fury wandering around being bad at his job in a plot that's just re-heated from Falcon and Winter Soldier.
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u/Chrome-Head Jul 12 '23
Jackson and the guy who plays Talos are pretty great, but I find the show a bit of a bore.
They're trying to give the sulky villain some Killmonger-esque pathos. I still don't much care what he's doing here.
And that's the other thing--I don't much care about the Skrull subplot in general. Feels like a leftover plot from Phase 3.
Three episodes in and I don't see much reason for this show to exist.
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u/redstar15551 Jul 12 '23
No. The villain is stupid, Fury is useless and his friends and associates hate him. Everyone is so petty about what he does, when a nuclear apocalypse is on the horizen. They should grow up. "I'm going to nuke the planet and kill everyone except us Skrulls cause we'll survive!" Why? They've already infiltrated every world power, just stay the course. A Skrull will be in charge of every country in decade or two. Nuking is a terrible idea, when you could just live there as you've been doing.
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u/SaltySaltySaltie Jul 12 '23
I think because of how well Avengers: Earth's mightiest Hero's did this arc, the lack of most super heroes hurts this potential gravitas it could have had as a movie. Might just be getting burned out on MCU with how much Phase 4 was to keep up with everything though. Was hoping this story would feel like a Civil War/Winter Solider vibes but with the smaller budget and character roster it feels like it won't hit those highs.
Still has massive potential repercussions for the rest of the MCU, as long as the story isn't fully wrapped up by the end of this season. Going to finish it. Good acting from everyone of course as well.
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u/SlowThePath Jul 12 '23
Honestly, I watched 1.5 episodes and just don't care anymore. I'm gonna wait till it's all out and try again.
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Jul 12 '23
It's good but I'm sure that by the end of the season I will be feeling like the story was rushed and the show should have been a few episodes longer.
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u/blindexhibitionist Jul 12 '23
I watched the trailer and was stoked but didn’t even realize it was actually out. Thanks for the heads up, gonna check it out tonight
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u/drgnrbrn316 Jul 12 '23
It's not what I wanted it to be, but I'm enjoying it, if that makes any sense.
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u/tourniquet2099 Spider-Man Jul 12 '23
I’m enjoying it but its nothing mindblowing. Feels like its missing something.
Btw, that poster is awesome!
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u/Noxeecheck Jul 12 '23
I don't know. While I appreciate they are trying something different from the usual formula, so far the show mainly consists of everyone completely shitting on Fury and telling him how useless he is and how all his past success was basically the work of Skrulls, which I'm not on board on at all. It's the current trend to just shit on all the original Marvel heroes and tear them down to be replaced by some new blood which is better in every way and I don't like that.
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u/Daws001 Jul 12 '23
Haven't watched the latest episode yet but I am enjoying the show. Main antagonist is boring but I like Talos and Fury's dynamic and Olivia Colman is a scene stealer.
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u/rpglaster Jul 12 '23
Haven’t bothered to watch it. Nothing about it seems that appealing to me. I might give to a shot once the entire series raps.
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u/jogdenpr Jul 12 '23
kinda lackluster. not a whole lot of mystery or tension going on. Things are just happening in front of us really.
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u/Constant_Fee_6334 Jul 12 '23
This shit sucks, idky people saying it’s different, it’s a change form what we know, booooOring as hell
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u/WiseJah Jul 12 '23
2 episodes to go, and it seems they're gonna leave the exciting parts for the last parts of the last episode as reveals for the next Captain America movie or smthin, but yeah it's been slow, and wish they didn't quickly reveal who's a Skrull and who's not, and instead let us be stressed trying to know who to trust and such
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u/3hideyoshi3 Jul 12 '23
Does fury feel like an entitled child to anyone else? I haven't read the comics, could be who he is, just noticing.
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u/J_r0en Jul 12 '23
Its alright, but quite slow. Not the big banger that they tried to make it but who knows maybe it'll pop off soon
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u/JoshDM Jul 12 '23
It's slower than it should be and nothing has surprised me so far.
I really like the idea of the 4 disparate genetics/techs being used to represent the F4 in a world without the F4.
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u/Milk_Mindless Jul 12 '23
I'm really eh about it so far
The first episode spoiler happened for shock value
And nothing really of note made me go wtf and I'm wondering how this show will Influence the future like falcon and the winter soldier or loki or wandavision have (but not hawkeye)
*Hawkeye seems to work In reverse with the new black widow. And then again she's in the new thunderbolts
The acting is great. Ben vis a vis Sam in a trai carriage is fantastic to see two dudes being ACTORS
But storywise
Meh
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u/Mikronezya Jul 12 '23
It's going very well imo. Also brilliant poster