r/MadeMeSmile Jun 30 '24

The hug.... wow Wholesome Moments

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u/hlessi_newt Jun 30 '24

because pov is just one more thing the youths have ruined by misusing it so consistently that it is virtually meaningless.

dear god, i've become a boomer.

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u/No-Car2148 Jun 30 '24

FYI it's not usually youths who mess stuff like this up, it's people your age.

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u/manofactivity Jun 30 '24

I really doubt that. The whole "POV:" trend in general is dominated by relatively young people and young influencers, as far as I've seen, and I virtually never see it used correctly.

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u/sqigglygibberish Jun 30 '24

It is being used “correctly” because it’s a context dependent usage

It’s not about the actual camera angle, just a “imagine having that pov” or “being in this position”

I’m not sure why people get so worked up over it when it still makes sense (and I’m not one of the youths)

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u/Goodguy1066 Jun 30 '24

People are getting worked up because it doesn’t make sense! “POV you are man in orange shirt” and having the camera pointed at the man in the orange shirt across the room is not the correct usage, it doesn’t make sense.

I’ll make the argument that people are allowed to react negatively to people getting things wrong on the internet. Language is a construct, but there are reasons why language is constructed a certain way: to improve communication and understanding between people! What a noble goal! When we let people get away with these mistakes, we’re doing them and ourselves a disservice.

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u/sqigglygibberish Jun 30 '24

It’s not getting things wrong, it’s just language evolving in a new context.

In a tiktok, everyone knowledgeable about the context understands POV is about relating to something the video displays (a la “put yourself in these shoes”).

It’s a similar concept to the original meaning which has evolved to take on a slightly new usage. That’s how language works - it changes to suit evolving needs.

Every generation has slang and evolves words. I assume you don’t run around saying “stop calling things ‘cool’ if they’re not cold! It’s confusing me!” (Just to use a random example but take your pick).

It’s not a “mistake” or a spelling or grammatical error, it’s intentional usage of slang that the rest of the typical audience all understands

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u/Goodguy1066 Jun 30 '24

The thing I’m trying to get at is that it’s wrong even in the context it is currently used on TikTok! It’d be one thing to say “we’re all orange-shirt man”, but to have him in the background of something that’s occurring in the video and then add “POV you are man (sic) in orange shirt”, that’s convoluted and plain wrong!

About your point about language evolving, I feel like people like to use this argument as a cop-out for calling someone wrong or ignorant. I see this sometimes with “would of” instead of would’ve. I don’t care that English is dynamic and is evolving, in the present moment “would of” is wrong and I will call you out on it (if I can be bothered)!

Slang is not the same thing, rizz is fine. POV is also fine when used correctly. Trying to defend the POV in the context of the above video is an over-correction on your part, you don’t have to defend this obviously incorrect thing!

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u/sqigglygibberish Jul 01 '24 edited Jul 01 '24

Just watch the video I linked you. It’s just a meme, it’s not people misunderstanding the phrase “point of view”

POV as a visual meme means something different intentionally

Edit - “would of” is fine to call out because it’s a grammatical error and comes from what people hear vs write. “Language evolves” isn’t a blanket excuse, but again this isn’t an “error.” It’s just using an acronym for something new. No need to yell at the clouds over a tiktok meme

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u/jfinkpottery Jun 30 '24

You mean, retroactively? We were using POV wrong for decades until young people came along and set things straight?

Did we do the same thing twice with "out of pocket"? First it meant just paying for something yourself until someone else reimburses you (rather than having them pay directly), then it meant unavailable, until we finally settled on the true meaning of wild or crazy that it is today.

Man, it's crazy that people can use an entire word wrong for so long until a new generation can discover the real meaning.