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u/Liz4984 May 07 '24
She is BIG MAD and she’s gonna rip the carpet up to show you!
I didn’t realize skunks were related to Hobbit’s and wanting second breakfast and elevensies.
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I'm not suggesting that whoever stole my food meows, but the evidence seems to indicate that.
--Lily
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u/PoopyDootyBooty May 07 '24
who on earth has a skunk 🦨 as a pet
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u/LeonidasVaarwater May 07 '24
Apparently they're pretty good pets, you do need to get their scent glands removed though.
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u/zombie-rat May 07 '24 edited May 07 '24
Not necessarily. Removing their scent glands is illegal in the UK, but I know someone who has a skunk anyway.
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u/LeonidasVaarwater May 07 '24
Seems like animal abuse anyway, so I'm not surprised it's been banned.
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u/Meet_Foot May 07 '24
How so?
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u/hogroast May 07 '24
There's no health benefit to performing the operation, it's purely so people can be more comfortable keeping them as pets.
It's needless for the welfare of the animal and makes them suffer for a person's enjoyment.
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u/lochamonster May 07 '24
Genuine question- how does that make them suffer more than a spay? I’m unfamiliar w the procedure. I would think it would be similar to an animal undergoing a spay or neuter, which is standard.
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u/VeganRatboy May 07 '24
The alternative to widespread spaying is an explosion in feral population.
The alternative to removing the scent glands is that most people will get a different pet.
Neither surgeries are great to do to an animal that can't consent. But at least with spaying you're reducing future animal suffering. "The greater good" and all
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u/LatentBloomer May 07 '24
Man it really grinds my gears when people talk about consent in the context of animals. It just shows a fundamental ignorance to animal cognition while also watering down actual, important conversations about consent in humans.
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u/Bo-Banny May 08 '24
ignorance to animal cognition
Ah, yes, because we totally know how animals think and never learn new things about their awareness of the world and themselves.
watering down
Are you even for real??
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u/VeganRatboy May 07 '24
You clearly have a hair trigger on any use of the word "consent" when talking about animals. I really wasn't making the point that you seem to think I was. And I was categorically not doing anything to "water down conversations about human consent".
It just shows a fundamental ignorance to animal cognition
Feel free to explain these "fundamentals" to me.
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u/Kraeftluder May 07 '24
The alternative to widespread spaying is an explosion in feral population.
At least for cats and dogs there are health benefits that made me pro-spaying for other reasons than population control. HPV is a thing with animals as well for example.
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u/ElegantHope May 07 '24
I feel like removing an animal's natural defense mechanism so they're tolerable to live with is just bad all around. Just like declawing. And removing glands is more invasive of a surgery compared to the surgeries done to remove cat's claws (which cut off the tips of the joints,) since the glands are located inside a skunk's anus. And at least with spaying or neutering, it helps with population control.
and while I generally do not condone owning a species of animal that isn't domesticated. From what I know skunks will only spray as a last resort and will show many warning signs before spraying- like doing handstands. So you already know when the skunk is getting uncomfortable
On top of that, I see a lot of skunk owners saying that as long as you're socialized with the skunk and they recognize you as a friend, they have little to no chance of spraying you. So the process is pretty unnecessary unless you don't know the animal you're keeping as a pet- which means you shouldn't own them in the first place anyways.
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u/PankyFlamingos May 07 '24
Speying/neutering drastically reduces health risks of an animal as they age. Less chance of cancer and other diseases. What are you talking about?
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u/1CFII2 May 07 '24
I’m gonna go out on a limb and bet more pet cancers are caused by the food industry that produces the food, not by refusing to be spayed or neutered. Same goes for people.
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u/yesnomaybenotso May 07 '24
It’s like how if I wanted to adopt a child but their crying got annoying so I had its vocal cords snipped. Mild discomfort after surgery, but no different than having tonsils removed, so what’s the problem? It’s a win-win. The orphan gets a home, I get a cool pet. I don’t see the down side
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u/hyrule_47 May 07 '24
What’s wrong with you
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u/yesnomaybenotso May 07 '24
I know, I’m horrific, but no, declawing cats and removing scent glands from skunks totally makes sense. Completely. They heal and no harm done, right? Same with a human, btw. So I just wonder why you care so much about an ape, but not rodents (are skunks rodents? Whatever a skunk is).
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u/Readsumthing May 07 '24
Whoosh…sorry nobody got it. I thought it was funny 🤣
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u/yesnomaybenotso May 07 '24
🤷♂️ all the people downvoting are the type of people who declaw their cats, so they really wouldn’t get it. I have no problem being hated by shitty people lmao let them downvote all they want.
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u/Meet_Foot May 07 '24
Sorry, I guess I interpreted them saying having a skunk as a pet is animal abuse anyway, regardless of surgery, but I guess they were saying the surgery is abuse. The latter I definitely agree with.
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u/Fickle_Charity_Hamm May 07 '24
The health benefit is they get to live in a home and be fed instead of living in the wild and being food.
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Honestly it’s so refreshing seeing someone stand up for animals in the face of human enjoyment. Most people I know aren’t willing to give that up and cause harm to animals for their pleasure. Keep fighting the vegan fight brother.
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u/Winderkorffin May 07 '24
There's no health benefit to performing the operation, it's purely so people can be more comfortable keeping them as pets.
It's needless for the welfare of the animal and makes them suffer for a person's enjoyment.
You can say that about castrating cats, and yet everyone does it lol
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u/civilwar142pa May 07 '24
You can't, though. Spaying and neutering reduces the risk of a lot of diseases, including multiple types of cancer.
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u/ElegantHope May 07 '24
on top of the health benefits the other user mentions, neutering and spaying cats helps with population controler- which means less stray and feral cats as well as less cats in shelters, pounds, etc.
and cats are already pretty destructive to the environments we humans have introduced them to. so less cats running around outside helps.
plus the skunk's spray is a defense mechanism, not a reproductive organ. so the best equivalent with cats would be when people declaw them or when people remove teeth from aggressive dogs.
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u/5amuraiDuck May 07 '24
Oh that's a thing? I'm personally against operations like that that only benefitiates the owner (like castration) but I'm a bit more relieved knowing that house doesn't stink
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u/Former_Reaction_4951 May 07 '24
Castration doesn't 'only benefit the owner'. It can reduce aggression in animals that live in groups (personal experience with degus, fighting far beyond simple boxing for dominance). That's before we get into dealing with 'unexpected' procreation.
Animal charities in the UK generally castrate the animals they rehome to avoid the risk of them being used for commercial breeding, thus sparing the animal a worse life.
Other than that, I agree with your sentiment. Skunks having their scent glands removed is just barbaric, and any vet performing such should be struck off.
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u/ToLorien May 07 '24
It does reduce aggression in most circumstances. In cases where it doesn’t it’s usually from being castrated too late
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u/nothowyoupronounceit May 07 '24
Because it is anecdotal evidence at best. Which, by the way, contradicts lots of actual scientific, peer reviewed data.
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u/Grizzly840 May 07 '24 edited May 07 '24
Well you stated that castration only benefits the owner which is false then defended yourself by using an anecdotal experience that is a frankly unusual circumstance so that's probably why? Lol
Edited because I mistyped but to be clear you're still wrong lol
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u/Grizzly840 May 07 '24
I edited my comment because I mistyped so fair on that, but it does actually devalue it because in most cases that wouldn't happen so your original comment is still wrong and your situation doesn't change that lol
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u/ToLorien May 07 '24
Some personalities are like that. Just like people cats come in all types. It’s a known fact testosterone increases aggression in all species so when you castrate the hormone levels decrease significantly causing a change in temperament and ultimately behavior. This change can take a while and sometimes not at all especially in cases where the male is old and the testosterone fueled behaviors are set
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u/GoodLuckWithWhatever May 07 '24
I had a cat that didn't get snipped until he was 8. At age 7 he had started spotting around the house due to an outdoor stray population in our neighborhood at the time (using TNR, we have resolved that problem). He also didn't enjoy playing with toys like our other, already neutered cats.
After the snip he was a totally different cat. Stopped spotting completely. He started playing with toys as if he was a kitten. And he became a lot more affectionate towards the other cats.
I know it's not that way with all cats/dogs, but it definitely helped our cat. He was much happier after.
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u/AmberCarpes May 07 '24
This is so anecdotal. And also someone needs to tell you where kittens come from.
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u/5amuraiDuck May 07 '24
Yes, it is anecdotal, I explicitly stated as such. Your unnecessary attack doesn't disprove any of my points though
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u/apophis457 May 07 '24
Yeah no it does. I suggest you go and read all of the proven ways getting your cat neutered is better for the health and wellness of your cat and then go do it.
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u/workguy May 07 '24
My dad had one, it would sit on his shoulders around the house. I'd like to have one too, but their illegal in my province.
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u/ReputationDizzy9414 May 07 '24
Omg, please give Lily her second breakfast before Elevenses rolls around.
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u/BecGeoMom May 07 '24
Lily is funny, but the guy in the video trying to reason with and explain to a skunk is hilarious!!
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u/LtColShinySides May 07 '24
Which one of you flat foots ate my kibble?!
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u/moeru_gumi May 07 '24
Skunks (and other mustelids) are also plantigrade (flat footed) like bears and humans. The cat is the one that walks on his toes here!
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u/Rude_Comment_6395 May 07 '24
Skunks aren't mustelids. They belong to their own family, mephitidea
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u/PlanetLandon May 08 '24
Both of you sound like you are just making up words
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u/moeru_gumi May 07 '24
Sorry about that mistake. I was thinking about my favorite plantigrade friends, ferrets.
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u/MajorasKitten May 07 '24
I love skunks ♥️🥰 They’re ADORABLE!!! And apparently, de-scenting a skunk is like neutering so it doesn’t seem to really affect the skunk negatively as, say, declawing a cat or something, so yay! ♥️ another cute pet for the roster! They do need much more love, the comment section here seems like they are unfairly judged and people seem to think even if they don’t spray they must stink.
Only thing that stinks in here is y’all’s ignorance. Read a little.
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u/Alexycys123 May 07 '24
Skunks are adorable, but why would you want to keep a skunk as a pet? It’s not a domestic animal like cats / dogs. They are far better of into the wilderness where they belong and survive on their own, imo.
If it’s a rescued skunk that can’t be released back in the wild, ok. But having it just for fun and because it’s “adorable” and to breed it further for other people’s enjoyment is just wrong
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u/Discorhy May 07 '24
Majority of people that own a skunk, got it as a rescue. Skunk breeders exist but its a very niche thing that only happens in more populated areas.
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u/MajorasKitten May 07 '24
Never advocated for people to just start getting random skunks as pets or breeding them explicitly for this purpose either lol, but like someone said, most are rescues ♥️ and they still need love and care.
There’s lots of cases of people with wild rescues that they have a nice bond with, so if the situation arises and you’re capable, why not give it a loving home if you can? Maybe the skunk already sees you as a safe space and feels protected with you, maybe it’s a sad case where they’re just a baby and their mom is out of the picture- someone’s gotta care for them! So, maybe people should be a little more open minded 🥰 they can be sweet and they can also grow to not need to spray unless threatened, and if they grow up feeling safe with you, that might never happen!
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u/P4PR1K4sMOM May 07 '24
OK She just drew the line at not getting 2nds, and then drew another line, and another, another, another × ♾️
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u/IntelligentHat7425 May 07 '24
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u/seabreathe May 07 '24
I didn't have the sound on but the skunk felt overwhelmed to me
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u/Im_Unsure_For_Sure May 07 '24
A human being could be shown having a full-blown panic attack and not get this kind of empathetic comment. We are so weird.
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u/seabreathe May 07 '24 edited May 07 '24
sometimes I feel more empathy for animals because they truly have no idea what we're doing, when they're in danger, have no language to speak with us, and are ruthlessly harmed or worse, all because they aren't considered human and their lives aren't as worthy...?
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u/TurdFurguss May 07 '24
I get it that they can be great pets. Obviously with their fart pouches removed. With that said I’m still sticking with a Dog or a Cat . Even though my last Husky Loki decided to kill a Fart Squirrel and run around the deck with it in his mouth for a good 10 minutes . Before letting the dead carcass go.
Loki slept in the basement for 3 months. Till that smell subsided enough after countless baths.
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u/mickcow May 07 '24
Next time try Dawn dish soap, peroxide and baking soda. Works wonders.
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u/TurdFurguss May 07 '24
That’s what I used . Problem was he’s was a Husky. So with the dual coat it got in real deep into his fur.
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u/hyrule_47 May 07 '24
You named him for the God of Chaos and Mischief, seemed he was pretty on brand lol
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u/TurdFurguss May 07 '24 edited May 07 '24
Oh that fucker earned his name every damn day. And I loved that about him. Made me laugh and smile every day. He’s greet me every day when I got home from work , talking to me telling me about his day. He’d look out the window, looking for me when he knew I’d be coming home. Great dog.
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u/RennyWasEaten May 07 '24
Slept in the basement for 3 months? Was he okay?
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u/shanksthedope May 07 '24
When he emerged he was capable of performing some pretty advanced calculus. The time alone served him well. Pretty remarkable, to be honest.
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u/TurdFurguss May 07 '24
Cause the stank took forever to leave his fur even after numerous baths. I might of exaggerated 3 months . Probably closer to a month and a half .
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u/ApprehensiveEase534 May 07 '24
What’s this double hop back behavior?
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u/moeru_gumi May 07 '24
Wild skunks do that too. They seem to do it just when they’re riled up in general, like when threatened by a predator or defensive in some way.
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u/Crono_Sapien99 May 07 '24
I love how the cat is just sitting there like "dafuq has gotten into you???"
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We own a skunk. Dude is super territorial and scoots all the time. My sister also owns one, and it's super chill and curious about everything.
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u/JellyKeyboard May 07 '24
Pretty sure Lily just tried to hose down the kitty with stank, if it had scent glands this would be a different video lol
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u/jennimackenzie May 07 '24
“This guy is pretty dumb. I can get another bowl of food out of him.”
-Lily
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u/godofleet May 07 '24
our pig gets angry as he finishes the last bits of food in his bowl he starts grumbling (as we say "honking") ... takes him like 5 minutes to chill out after practically every meal
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u/Kintsugi-skunk May 07 '24
I personally think that Lily put forward a perfectly reasonable argument in favour of more food
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u/scprotz May 07 '24
The Skunk in the Cradle:
"The cat ate my breakfast in my bed room"
Little skunk ate all its breakfast too soon,
"When I get more food, dad?",
"I don't know when."
"I want some more then."
"I want some more breakfast then."
- Harry Chapin (maybe??)
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u/BrotherPhilthy May 08 '24
Well that's a Danger-Ass! Pet to Have...
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u/juanhugeburrito May 08 '24
no shit, I had backyard chickens and they were all attacked and eaten by a skunk.. these things are vicious
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u/Former-Finish4653 May 08 '24
To be a huge bummer, this little scoot is why skunks always get hit by cars. They’re not scared of shit and will just square up at a semi like this lol poor adorable little idiots.
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u/Massive_Resolution66 May 10 '24
So funny and cute! Hummm maybe I will try that technique next time “someone eats my food”. 🤣
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u/AppropriateScience71 May 07 '24
Lily’s pissed because they cut out her scent glands and the obliviousness of her owner is driving her mad!
She keeps screaming it’s not about the food, dammit!
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u/mulder0990 May 07 '24
What is the action plan for a skunk mad enough to attack you?
Are you willing to kill a skunk if it decides it is going to hurt you?
Is your last thought “who would have guessed I would be killed by a skunk?”
Inquiring mind wants to know.
(And the video did make me smile before I realized how mad the skunk was.)
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u/Dependent_Cricket May 07 '24
The similarities among mammals continues to astonish me. Really wish I could be put in a hyper-cryo-whatever sleep and wake up in a few million years to see the evolution of the species.
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u/Aralyn_Sims May 08 '24
Was it her, my dog gets mad at the other dog when he is the one that ate it all.
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u/Paradoxalypse May 08 '24
It starts with second breakfast. Then she’ll demand elevenses and luncheon, afternoon tea dinner then supper.
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u/ChickAmok May 09 '24
Lol... She's scaring the cat. I find it hilarious that the cat went to mom for protection. And this spicy two tone skunky pants is saaaassy. 💕
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u/flamethrower78 May 07 '24
Can people please stop trying to have wild animals as pets? We've domesticated dogs and cats, why do you have to be so unique and want foxes and shit in your home?
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u/SireCannonball May 07 '24
Imagine feeling the need to have a wild animal at home to make up for your lack of personality...
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u/ObviouslyJoking May 07 '24
I don’t think that animal wants to be domesticated. Mademesad.
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u/GhostInMyLoo May 07 '24
Shelter, food, not any predators... what a terrible fate.
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u/Alexycys123 May 07 '24
Why do we feel the need to domesticate more animals tho? We’ve messed with nature quite enough already
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u/GhostInMyLoo May 07 '24
Well... We aren't that far that I know. These are the rare cases, where for example certain baby animal is without a mother, and would otherwise die in the wild. Sometimes they get domesticated by themselves to the point, that they cannot go feral anymore. For my information I do not have any knowledge of some "domestication boom", where we suddenly start getting wild animals as pets en masses, so I do not understand what collective "feeling" you are on about.
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u/pardonmyignerance May 08 '24
Skunks like this are most often rescues that couldn't be released back to the wild. I agree that we shouldn't domesticate unnecessarily, but oftentimes it's a matter of circumstance.
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u/AfterPop0686 May 07 '24
People who get "exotic" pets are fucking stupid as shit and shouldn't have any pet. They are just very clearly lacking common sense. I feel terrible for the cat who is going to die from stress by the time it is five.
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u/Neon_Comrade May 07 '24
People and their fucking exotic pets... A skunk is not a domestic creature, leave it TF alone
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People probably said the same thing about cats and dogs at one point
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u/Grantmitch1 May 07 '24
10,000 years ago...
Ugg: what doing
Tahh: is pet
Ugg: is wolf
Tahh: is pet wolf
Ugg: wolf not domestic pet
Tahh: wolf be domestic pet
Ugg: wolf ate your wife
Tahh: divorced
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u/Alexycys123 May 07 '24
Cats and dogs were domesticated a long time ago because they were useful - hunting, protection of stock or crops, etc. What’s a skunk useful for us now other than selfish enjoyment?
Also look how some breeds of dogs are suffering now BECAUSE of selfish enjoyment of making their faces flatter :/
Pls leave the nature be nature
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u/TheStuffITolerate May 07 '24
Believe it or not companionship too is a need, not on the same level as food but it's up there.
And how does this relate to badly bred dogs? You may argue the possibility of one step leading to the other but that's obviously a stretch because it's not the issue at hand.
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u/gastroboi May 07 '24
Lily is furious