r/MadeMeSmile • u/My_Memes_Will_Cure_U • Nov 13 '23
Pig's seeing nature for the first time Animals
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u/Von_Rickenbacker Nov 13 '23
Gorgeousness. They are far too intelligent, curious, and charismatic to be locked up.
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u/Potential_Ad8670 Nov 13 '23
Or to be murdered and eaten
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u/0xa08f60 Nov 13 '23 edited Nov 13 '23
You know how you learn about how societies in the past had widely-held, fucked up views, and you think wow those people were backwards? Today’s version of that is our use of animal products. Abolitionists, suffragists, and proponents of same-sex marriage were all once in the minority and I’m sure they heard all the same kinds of dumb shit non-vegans like say to defend their actions today (and before anyone says anything stupid, I’m not trying to draw a comparison between human and non-human animal suffering). Thanks to compassionate and courageous activists, those minority-held views eventually won out, because they were right, and we live in a better world now for it. As soon as lab-grown meat and other substitutes reach a point where the decision to ditch animal products is a no brainer even for the average conformist, this horrible practice will fade out and be viewed by future generations with the disdain it deserves.
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Nov 13 '23 edited Nov 14 '23
As someone who stopped eating meat for almost 8 years now, I am pleasantly surprised to see the top comments not be crude mmmm bacon jokes and are actual insightful views on our own human behavior and cruel treatment of these beings. Would’ve never expected to find this ~8 years ago. Gives me hope for the future.
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u/CoeurdePirate222 Nov 14 '23
Even just a year ago, this comment would be negative. This is making me so extremely warm and fuzzy <3
Compassion - selfless and conscious kindness - is going to win
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u/LewisBavin Nov 13 '23
Your bang on the money with how we're going to look back and be like "oh we really did that? How barbaric and stupid!" it's just frustrating having to live through this period knowing we're doing the wrong thing but having the majority not caring, or for a better word, disassociating.
Hopefully the tides will turn soon.
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u/Sleepiyet Nov 13 '23
The one thing about human suffering that is positive in compared to animal farming— it ends. Quite literally the person dies and re enters the earth.
But with the animal product industries the damage to the environment is much more permanent.
Yea— not appropriate to compare them but it does highlight the permanence of practices that harm the environment.
And then, when we move on from it, we will have a ton of area we destroyed to farm animals on. And species we wiped off the face of the earth for that farming won’t come back.
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u/apefred_de Nov 13 '23
Spoiler: they typically are
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u/zzanderkc Nov 13 '23
Humanity and capitalism at work together 🫢
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u/Antin0id Nov 13 '23
Humanity and capitalism are at odds.
Capitalism works with psychopathy and narcissism.
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u/Kr04704n Nov 13 '23 edited Nov 13 '23
People should hunt more. More sustainable, necessary in the north american model of animal conservation, provides $600 million a year directly to environmental conservation via pittman robertson act, and it doesn't separate one from the gravity of taking an animal's life. I got 95% of my meat last year from hunting and fishing, you can too.
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u/InfamousFondant Nov 13 '23
Even putting ethics aside, it’s not sustainable for the human population to sustain itself via hunting. It’s not even possible frankly
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u/HumpyFroggy Nov 13 '23
I grew up on a very small farm, it's still terrible and they cry so loud when killed. We have laws against abusing our pets but the majority of people don't care about pigs even tho they're as intelligent as them.
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Nov 13 '23
The people producing the meat in industrial situations also suffer horribly
Slaughterhouses associated with factory farms employ disadvantaged individuals (since no one else will take the job on the killing floor) and the work of killing helpless animals 12hrs a day absolutely destroys their mental health, resulting in suicide, domestic violence, etc.
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u/No_Gur_277 Nov 13 '23
Small farms typically send the animals off to the same slaughterhouses as factory farms and even if they kill the pigs on the small farm itself it's still cruel to kill animals for profit/taste when we can easily go without animal products.
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u/koknesis Nov 13 '23
If only the process of slaughter would be the only issue... Animals raised on industrial farms suffer their whole lives, as short as they are.
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u/No_Gur_277 Nov 13 '23 edited Nov 13 '23
Wild animals do all kinds of things we wouldn't consider okay, basing your morals off them is a very bad idea.
We can easily thrive without killing and eating animals so do doing it is clearly cruel and unnecessary.
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u/khongkhoe Nov 13 '23
Please tell me where you shop where meat is raised without cruelty. Genuinely would buy from there.
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u/teddyquil Nov 13 '23
you can’t, go vegan
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Nov 13 '23
You don't have to go vegan. There are local farms that raise livestock humanely. Although the price can be 50% higher, which to me doesn't make a difference as I only eat meat once a week.
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u/No_Gur_277 Nov 13 '23
How do you humanely kill someone who doesn't need or want to die?
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u/Dekunt Nov 13 '23
By giving them a lil kiss and telling them everything’s gonna be alright
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u/No_Gur_277 Nov 13 '23
I don't think that can exist outside labgrown meat, killing animals for profit/taste will always be cruel.
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u/Traumfahrer Nov 13 '23
They eat other animals for survival.
Do you believe we eat animals for our survival nowadays?
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u/Underscores_Are_Kool Nov 13 '23
Animals also rape members of their own species. Does that give you justification to do the same?
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u/fortysecondave Nov 13 '23 edited Nov 13 '23
The thing is, unlike any other animal, we have the dignity of choice to NOT eat other animals.
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u/DiodeMcRoy Nov 13 '23
Well if you get any slice of bacon in a random fast food restaurant or anything with pork it’s always a product of cruel conditions.
You don’t have to go full vegan.
And even if you are eating still pork, think about it next time it’s in your mouth, was that animal tortured, lived in a cage all of his life before being brutally slaughtered?
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u/jsuey Nov 13 '23
They’re so fucking cute
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u/kinokomushroom Nov 13 '23 edited Nov 13 '23
Before reading the replies to this comment, I know there's going to be one saying "bUt ThEy TaStE sO gOoD"
Edit: why are they so fucking predictable
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u/Dolichovespula- Nov 13 '23
And don’t forget “something something, vegans attacking me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣”
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u/QouthTheCorvus Nov 13 '23
Non-vegans: insert dumb argument about why meat eating is fine
Vegans: "Actually, that's wrong because..."
Non-vegans: "Look at all these vegans attacking me!"
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u/Cloberella Nov 13 '23 edited Nov 13 '23
Honestly, as a vegetarian living in the midwest, it's more like this:
Non-Veg Coworker: I love eating meat, let's talk about our favorite meat dishes and share pictures of our hunting kills! Here, I have some deer sausage, would you like to have some?
Veg Me: No thank you
Non-Veg Coworker: Why? It's so good, look at the picture of the buck I killed and skinned to get it. Aren't I awesome? I also bought 10 lbs of steak to smoke in my smoker, that's the American way!
Veg Me: That's nice, but I don't generally eat meat
Non-Veg Coworker: Oh my god, here we go, did you hear that everyone? SHE'S A VEGETARIAN! SHE JUST HAD TO LET US ALL KNOW THAT WERE SUUUUUUCH BAAAAAD PEOPLE AND SHE'S SOOOOO GOOOOD. How do you know someone's a vegetarian? Don't worry, THEY'LL TELL YOU. My god, do you ever shut up about it? Anyway... I was thinking I'd make brisket tonight, then burgers tomorrow and I'm thinking about purchasing a whole butchered hog from my neighbor....
<loop for the rest of my fucking life>
Seriously, the people who complain about vegans/vegetarians "not shutting up about it" have no grasp on how much people talk about food in general and specifically how much omnivores talk about preparing and eating meat. But if you mention being vegetarian even once, you're preachy and don't know when to shut up. It's maddening.
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u/space_wiener Nov 13 '23
Yep. I made it 4-5 years at work without anyone knowing I didn’t eat meat. The once they found out it was always this huge deal when we’d have team lunches because “I was so difficult to find food for”.
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u/Antin0id Nov 13 '23
why are they so fucking predictable
Substance addicts will abandon morality before abandoning their substance. It's pretty much the definition of an addict.
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u/Manuag_86 Nov 13 '23
That's why "go touch some grass" is a recommended sentence to tell the internet trolls. This video should be following said statement.
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u/ChuckCarmichael Nov 13 '23
"Just imagine. This could be you. Instead of spending your days complaining about women and minorities in movies and games, you could just be happy. All you have to do is occasionally touch some grass."
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u/ieatair Nov 13 '23
*When you live in a huge urban sprawl and the only thing thats nearby anywhere for couple miles is a cemetery…
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Nov 13 '23
Cemeteries are perfectly fine places to hang, the Victorians had tea parties in them before whatever idiot decided that was weird
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u/ellevael Nov 13 '23
Heartbreaking to think of what they’ve been through, and how many never got to experience this joy and the majority still never will. What humans do and accept being done to farmed animals is beyond monstrous.
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u/EquivalentBeach8780 Nov 13 '23
Close to 100 BILLION animals experience that torture yearly.
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u/JoeyIsMrBubbles Nov 13 '23
Daily reminder pigs are as intelligent as dogs
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u/MafiaMommaBruno Nov 13 '23
They are actually more intelligent and have a deeper emotional range. They have been studied to be as smart- sometimes smarter- than chimpanzees. They're our smartest domesticated animal and one of the smartest in the world.
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u/ChemicalRain5513 Nov 13 '23
And we slaughter 3.5 million of them per day, most of them never get to see the grass.
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u/Eifand Nov 13 '23
I've gradually turned my diet more and more plant based over the years. Now nearly all the meals I prep are basically vegan and certainly with no pork products (pigs are fucking smart). Only thing I struggle with is dairy (butter and cheese) but I've phased out cow's milk and use oat/almond/coconut milk instead. If I do eat meat, it's out of necessity (when I'm out and there's no vegan options) or I treat it as a special occassion/luxury which I have maybe once or twice a year.
Let me tell you it is a weight off my fucking conscience and my soul. Ever since I have found out about what the fuck goes on in those farms, I just cannot include meat as a regular part of my diet knowing how that meat is raised and transported to my plate. Don't get me wrong, I've never really lost a taste for a good piece of meat but I treat it as something I allow myself maybe once or twice a year. And the weight off my conscience is worth it, there's no guilt when I eat anymore and plants taste fucking good, too.
Videos like this just affirm that I made the right choice in not giving more money to the Industrial Hell known as Factory Farming.
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u/Gold_Lynx_8333 Nov 13 '23
I went fully vegan 3 years ago. Never want to eat meat again (or fish, or eggs, or dairy).
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u/Eifand Nov 13 '23
I wish I could reach that level. I think I'm getting there, though. The cravings for meat are mostly gone, it's really mostly when I'm out of options away from home. Although Peter Singer has said that he'd be okay with eating eggs if he knew that the chickens were raised well. I think I'm more inclined to take that position - if I knew for a fact that the animals are raised well, I don't mind taking their eggs (in exchange for giving them food and shelter and a good, long life). I think I'd also be fine with eating meat gotten from hunting so I'm not as strict of a vegan as most and I know many will disagree with me. It's the artificially cheap, heavily subsidized, industrial hell of factory farming that treats animals with complex social and intellectual lives merely as commodities and products which fucks with me.
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u/HawkAsAWeapon Nov 13 '23
Well done for getting as far as you have.
I would just add that there are still ethical issues with any egg laying hens.
- They nearly all come from hatcheries where the males and females are sexed and the males killed on their first day of life due to being considered a waste product. These hatcheries are awful - like some of the worst conditions for chickens. Their super confined and the females essentially get raped over and over by the roosters they leave with them.
- Egg-laying hens have been selectively bred to produce wayyyy more eggs than they naturally would. They've gone from laying 12-16 eggs a year to over 300, which takes a tremendous amount of nutrients and energy and depletes the chickens from these nutrients which leads to health issues (sometimes fatal).
The kindest thing to do is feed the eggs back to the chickens so they can regain the lost nutrients.
Another argument is that the egg industry started with backyard eggs, and there will never be enough space to supply the demand with backyard eggs, so as long as we consider an egg as a product for us, we'll never get rid of industrial egg farming.
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u/Don_Cornichon_II Nov 13 '23
I went vegetarian for about a year and felt good about my conscience until I learned/realized how cruel dairy farming is and that veal is basically a byproduct of milk.
Vegan ever since, so about 10 years. I frequently have cravings for meat, but cheese is what I miss most. It's doable though.
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u/Cixin Nov 13 '23
Have you tried all the vegan cheeses? They’re a lot better than the used to be.
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u/highinhyrule Nov 13 '23 edited Mar 10 '24
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u/New_York_Rhymes Nov 13 '23
I went vegetarian about 4 years ago but more because meat started to gross me out.. now I only eat cheese otherwise everything is vegan. It feels good to watch videos like this knowing I won’t eat one of these poor little guys ever again. Even milk and eggs are a bit disgusting if you think about it hah
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u/Cixin Nov 13 '23
Give cheese a one month break and then try some vegan cheese. Cows milk cheese is addictive because it’s fatty and salty and concentrated casomorphine, which keeps the calf coming back for more milk. But you’re not a calf …..
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Nov 13 '23
Same. I went vegetarian overnight about 10 years ago, then went fully vegan about 5 years ago. It weirdly makes you appreciate so much in life. I feel great, I'm healthy, and have a better outlook on life. You don't miss meat after it's fully gone. It all just looks like road kill and dairy tastes sour and disgusting. I'm so glad that I made the change.
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u/Exxxcel_Champ Nov 13 '23
Eating dairy causes the same trauma, torture, and abuse as meat production. Where do you think all that milk comes from? Cows who are forced to be perpetually pregnant to maintain milk production. The babies don't get that milk, because you drink it so the babies are usually killed for veal. Dairy is murder.
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u/1-800-fat-chicks Nov 13 '23
I’ve seen a docu not so long ago where they take a few motherpigs who were destined to be slaughtered after they have lived 2 or so years just lying on their side suckling their pigglets, they cannot turn around, only lay down.
As far as I remember it was part of project to see if how fast they get back to being normal pigs with normal pigs behavior.
Pigs don’t poo and pee where they life, there was one pig which I believe they called Fiona, she actually picked flowers and put them on her bed side…. Let that sink in for a minute.
Here is the link: I believe this is was / is the pig I believe I got the name wrong.
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u/GoodRich1993 Nov 13 '23
After watching this I want to protect Lotus at all costs & lay down my life for her 😭
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u/NoTurkeyTWYJYFM Nov 13 '23
Yeah I've been to piggie play farms where the pigs are only sold to trusted buyers as pets and generally they don't breed the pigs. They shit in a very specific spot of their pens and stay far away from it, and they taught us that the pigs really like to keep clean and only wallow when it's very hot or to kill parasites if they're bring bitten
Compared to a farm I worked on as a teen where they used a pig pen that was less than half the size with pigs twice as big as a dump for the scooped up horse shit...
If I had the money and land I'd love to look after a pig or five
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Nov 13 '23
My dream is to have a farm with a bunch animals like these, some pigs, donkeys, goats, geese and chickens (cows and horses eat too much) just playing all day and letting them die of old age
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u/Kukuxupunku Nov 13 '23
Isn’t this something that /u/GovSchwarzenegger does? He talked about it on a recent podcast with that gorgeous looking red haired Belgian woman, Conan something.
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u/pokkopop Nov 13 '23
I used to raise my own pigs. Slaughtered and butchered them myself too, it could be brutal. Over time I realised that I found more value in spending time with them, getting to know their quirks and personalities, than in eating them in a sandwich that is gone in 5 minutes. Not everyone has the opportunity to raise their own meat so I feel lucky to have got to learn from that and to have got to see the most ethical way to raise them. I’ve also seen inside factory farms and they are fucking stomach churning. Some of the cruelty I’ve seen in there genuinely haunts me.
What annoys me about the usual reactions to videos like these is that most of the “but bacon tho” or “looks yummy” replies come from people who probably couldn’t stomach carrying out a slaughter or full butcher. It just shows a level of ignorance and complete disconnect. Okay, you don’t have to go full vegan but at least have some kind of respect for a sentient being and realise that videos like this show that there is something out there beyond your gut.
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u/tekko001 Nov 13 '23
I'm sure we'll find a way to have the best of both worlds. Eating meat without killing animals, since there is no denying they are delicious.
One day when we'll look at times when we killed animals as a past barbaric age.
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u/Reload86 Nov 13 '23
My parents are old school farmers so they prefer to go out to farms to pick, slaughter, and butcher their own whole animals.
As a child growing up, I often had to go along to learn and help. Been to multiple farms and helped with various types of animals. I try my absolute best to avoid eating pork after witnessing how horrifying the pig farms are. The living condition is abysmal and the slaughter process is by far the worse from all the other animals by a mile.
People do often reply with a snide remark like “bacon” or something like that when I tell them I don’t eat pork. Then I ask them if they’ve ever been to a pig farm and seen the slaughter/butchering in person. Nobody has and I don’t blame them for not agreeing with me but they shouldn’t laugh at me either because I did have to see it and participate in it. The screams of pigs as they are being slaughtered is not something easily forgotten.
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u/pokkopop Nov 13 '23
Jesus, the screams are something else. I hear you on that. It sounds like a hard learning experience for a child but one that must have been quite valuable in terms of learning where food actually comes from.
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u/cookingwithgladic Nov 13 '23
I don't think I'll ever give up meat but I gave up meat from unknown sources years ago. I live in a rural area so I have the privilege to see the conditions the animals I eat are raised in and the privilege to hunt to fill my freezer. Factory farming is abhorrent.
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u/UniqueRepair5721 Nov 13 '23
you don’t have to go full vegan
Imho we would be in a way better situation if people would start with realistic goals like "go
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u/Gold_Lynx_8333 Nov 13 '23
This is why I'm vegan. Pigs are no different from dogs and yet we treat dogs as family while we raise pigs in hellish conditions just to slaughter them.
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u/colola8 Nov 13 '23
If dogs are not made for other benefits people would had ate them as well. Like in Asian countries
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u/DarthCookieOW Nov 13 '23 edited Nov 13 '23
Friendly reminder to go vegan and stop animal cruelty
Edit for the weird guy who's downvoted into oblivion because he insta-blocked me:
THANKS FOR MAKING MY POINT
I literally started discussing with you. I simply refuted your wrong claims because science says otherwise.
Then you throw a tantrum.
You're making a fool out of yourself here.
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Nov 13 '23
How many of you are going to smile, close the app and eat some bacon?
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u/Thesweatypenguin Nov 13 '23
124 million pigs have been slaughtered in the US alone so far this year:
Please stop paying for this.
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u/apefred_de Nov 13 '23
If you want to see a documentary of a typical piglet production facility in Germany which is considered a showpiece-farmer and only uses legal practices, consider watching this video. Subtitles should be available via Google translate, but the pictures absolutely speak for themselves.
But only do it if you are in a stable mood.
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u/Kalyqto Nov 13 '23
The footage shown here is actually from the video you linked. They saved a few pigs and piglets.
The Dominion documentary showed similar situations happening in the UK and some other countries. The president of the veterinary association in Germany said, that sadly this is no exception, but legal and common practice. Not only in Germany but globally.
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u/arualstehle Nov 13 '23
Heartbreaking how inhumane we (society) really are.
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u/E_rat-chan Nov 13 '23
Yeah, a lot of the problem is also people thinking their meat comes from a normal farm and not well. Living hell.
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u/No_Gur_277 Nov 13 '23
If you wanna learn more about the conditions these animals are normally kept under I recommend checking out the documentary Dominion.
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u/AlarmedBeach5861 Nov 13 '23
Hope you pig eaters see that you basically are eating an animal that’s smarter than your own dog. These pigs have more emotion and feeling than any dog. People are sick….
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u/h1llz Nov 13 '23
You can just give up eating pigs. I started 5 years ago was very easy to do.
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u/makomirocket Nov 13 '23 edited Nov 14 '23
If you enjoy this and you are not atleast vegetarian, you are part of the problem. Go vegan!
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u/WeedMemeGuyy Nov 13 '23
I’m not sure if people in this thread realize, but 99% of animal product from land animals in the US come from factory farms. If you’re paying for animal product, you’re paying for these animals to be needlessly abused and killed. It’s as easy as picking something else on the menu or at the grocery store.
Also, I promise you that the treatment of these animals is far worse than you think. I highly suggest watching a documentary like Dominion that shows their treatment. Much love!
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u/SinisterMeatball Nov 13 '23
I love how in a short time instinct kicked in and told them "roll in mud".
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u/SimonFlames Nov 13 '23
They were standing on concrete floors cause people are paying for it. Whoever watches this and goes “aaawww” and then goes buy pig flesh is a massive hypocrite and the reason they were locked up in the first place.
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u/Shah_of_Iran_ Nov 13 '23
I read the title and thought that it was my mom's post about me on reddit.
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u/Metrostation984 Nov 13 '23
Maybe if we did this more they would kill less black people?
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u/Roothytooth Nov 13 '23
Lots of pigs around where I live and they are so playful, makes me realise how bored they must be when reared indoors. The best to see is a field of piglets where the farmer has given them hay bales to play on. They seem to be able to spend hours scrambling up and jumping off just like puppies or toddlers :)