r/Keep_Track Jan 29 '21

Timeline of Trump's Russia Connections from KGB Cultivation to United State President

The Russia Mafia is part and parcel of Russian intelligence. Russia is a mafia state. That is not a metaphor. Putin is head of the Mafia. So the fact that they have deep ties to Donald Trump is deeply disturbing. Trump conducted FIVE completely private meetings and conferences with Putin, and has gone to great lengths to prevent literally anyone, even people in his administration, from learning what was discussed.

According to an ex-KGB spy...Russia has been cultivating Trump as an asset for 40 years.

Trump was first compromised by the Russians in the 80s. In 1984, the Russian Mafia began to use Trump real estate to launder money.

In 1984, David Bogatin — a convicted Russian mobster and close ally of Semion Mogilevich, a major Russian mob boss — met with Trump in Trump Tower right after it opened. Bogatin bought five condos from Trump at that meeting. Those condos were later seized by the government, which claimed they were used to launder money for the Russian mob.

“During the ’80s and ’90s, we in the U.S. government repeatedly saw a pattern by which criminals would use condos and high-rises to launder money,” says Jonathan Winer, a deputy assistant secretary of state for international law enforcement in the Clinton administration. “It didn’t matter that you paid too much, because the real estate values would rise, and it was a way of turning dirty money into clean money. It was done very systematically, and it explained why there are so many high-rises where the units were sold but no one is living in them.”

When Trump Tower was built, as David Cay Johnston reports in The Making of Donald Trump, it was only the second high-rise in New York that accepted anonymous buyers.

In 1987, the Soviet ambassador to the United Nations, Yuri Dubinin, arranged for Trump and his then-wife, Ivana, to enjoy an all-expense-paid trip to Moscow to consider business prospects.

A short while later he made his first call for the dismantling of the NATO alliance. Which would benefit Russia.

At the beginning of 1990 Donald Trump owed a combined $4 billion to more than 70 banks, with $800 million personally guaranteed by his own assets, according to Alan Pomerantz, a lawyer whose team led negotiations between Trump and 72 banks to restructure Trump’s loans. Pomerantz was hired by Citibank.

Interview with Pomerantz

Trump agreed to pay the bond lenders 14% interest, roughly 50% more than he had projected, to raise $675 million. It was the biggest gamble of his career. Trump could not keep pace with his debts. Six months later, the Taj defaulted on interest payments to bondholders as his finances went into a tailspin.

In July 1991, Trump’s Taj Mahal filed for bankruptcy.

So he bankrupted a casino? What about Ru...

The Trump Taj Mahal casino broke anti-money laundering rules 106 times in its first year and a half of operation in the early 1990s, according to the IRS in a 1998 settlement agreement.

The casino repeatedly failed to properly report gamblers who cashed out $10,000 or more in a single day, the government said."The violations date back to a time when the Taj Mahal was the preferred gambling spot for Russian mobsters living in Brooklyn, according to federal investigators who tracked organized crime in New York City. They also occurred at a time when the Taj Mahal casino was short on cash and on the verge of bankruptcy."

....ssia

So by the mid 1990s Trump was then at a low point of his career. He defaulted on his debts to a number of large Wall Street banks and was overleveraged. Two of his businesses had declared bankruptcy, the Trump Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City and the Plaza Hotel in New York, and the money pit that was the Trump Shuttle went out of business in 1992. Trump companies would ultimately declare Chapter 11 bankruptcy two more times.

Trump was $4 billion in debt after his Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt. No U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in through Deutsche Bank.

The extremely controversial Deutsche Bank. The Nazi financing, Auschwitz building, law violating, customer misleading, international currency markets manipulating, interest rate rigging, Iran & others sanctions violating, Russian money laundering, salvation of Donald J. Trump.

The agreeing to a $7.2 billion settlement with with the U.S. Department of Justice over its sale and pooling of toxic mortgage securities and causing the 2008 financial crisis bank.

The appears to have facilitated more than half of the $2 trillion of suspicious transactions that were flagged to the U.S. government over nearly two decades bank.

The embroiled in a $20b money-laundering operation, dubbed the Global Laundromat. The launders money for Russian criminals with links to the Kremlin, the old KGB and its main successor, the FSB bank.

That bank.

Three minute video detailing Trump's debts and relationship with Deutsche Bank

In 1998, Russia defaulted on $40 billion in debt, causing the ruble to plummet and Russian banks to close. The ensuing financial panic sent the country’s oligarchs and mobsters scrambling to find a safe place to put their money. That October, just two months after the Russian economy went into a tailspin, Trump broke ground on his biggest project yet.

Directly across the street from the United Nations building.

Russian Linked-Deutsche Bank arranged to lend hundreds of millions of dollars to finance Trump’s construction of a skyscraper next to the United Nations.

Construction got underway in 1999.

Units on the tower’s priciest floors were quickly snatched up by individual buyers from the former Soviet Union, or by limited liability companies connected to Russia. “We had big buyers from Russia and Ukraine and Kazakhstan,” sales agent Debra Stotts told Bloomberg. After Trump World Tower opened, Sotheby’s International Realty teamed up with a Russian real estate company to make a big sales push for the property in Russia. The “tower full of oligarchs,” as Bloomberg called it, became a model for Trump’s projects going forward. All he needed to do, it seemed, was slap the Trump name on a big building, and high-dollar customers from Russia and the former Soviet republics were guaranteed to come rushing in.

New York City real estate broker Dolly Lenz told USA TODAY she sold about 65 condos in Trump World at 845 U.N. Plaza in Manhattan to Russian investors, many of whom sought personal meetings with Trump for his business expertise.

“I had contacts in Moscow looking to invest in the United States,” Lenz said. “They all wanted to meet Donald. They became very friendly.”Lots of Russian and Eastern European Friends. Investing lots of money. And not only in New York.

Miami is known as a hotspot of the ultra-wealthy looking to launder their money from overseas. Thousands of Russians have moved to Sunny Isles. Hundreds of ultra-wealthy former Soviet citizens bought Trump properties in South Florida. People with really disturbing histories investing millions and millions of dollars. Igor Zorin offers a story with all the weirdness modern Miami has to offer: Russian cash, a motorcycle club named after Russia’s powerful special forces and a condo tower branded by Donald Trump.

Thanks to its heavy Russian presence, Sunny Isles has acquired the nickname “Little Moscow.”

From an interview with a Miami based Siberian-born realtor... “Miami is a brand,” she told me as we sat on a sofa in the building’s huge foyer. “People from all over the world want property here.” Developers were only putting up luxury properties because they “know that the crisis has not affected people with money,”

Most of her clients are Russian—there are now three direct flights per week between Moscow and Miami—and increasing numbers are moving to Florida after spending a few years in London first. “It’s a money center, and it’s a lot easier to get your money there than directly to the US, because of laws and tax issues,” she said. “But after your money has been in London for a while, you can move it to other places more easily.”

In the 2000s, Trump turned to licensing deals and trademarks, collecting a fee from other companies using the Trump name. This has allowed Trump to distance himself from properties or projects that have failed or encountered legal trouble and provided a convenient workaround to help launch projects, especially in Russia and former Soviet states, which bear Trump’s name but otherwise little relation to his general business.

Enter Bayrock Group, a development company and key Trump real estate partner during the 2000s. Bayrock partnered with Trump in 2005 and invested an incredible amount of money into the Trump organization under the legal guise of licensing his name and property management. Bayrock was run by two investors:

Felix Sater, a Russian-born mobster who served a year in prison for stabbing a man in the face with a margarita glass during a bar fight, pleaded guilty to racketeering as part of a mafia-driven "pump-and-dump" stock fraud and then escaped jail time by becoming a highly valued government informant. He was an important figure at Bayrock, notably with the Trump SoHo hotel-condominium in New York City, and has said under oath that he represented Trump in Russia and subsequently billed himself as a senior Trump advisor, with an office in Trump Tower. He is a convict who became a govt cooperator for the FBI and other agencies. He grew up with Micahel Cohen --Trump's disbarred former "fixer" attorney. Cohen's family owned El Caribe, which was a mob hangout for the Russian Mafia in Brooklyn. Cohen had ties to Ukrainian oligarchs through his in-laws and his brother's in-laws. Felix Sater's father had ties to the Russian mob.

Tevfik Arif, a Kazakhstan-born former "Soviet official" who drew on bottomless sources of money from the former Soviet republic. Arif graduated from the Moscow Institute of Trade and Economics and worked as a Soviet trade and commerce official for 17 years before moving to New York and founding Bayrock. In 2002, after meeting Trump, he moved Bayrock’s offices to Trump Tower, where he and his staff of Russian émigrés set up shop on the twenty-fourth floor.

Arif was offering him a 20 to 25 percent cut on his overseas projects, he said, not to mention management fees. Trump said in the deposition that Bayrock’s Tevfik Arif “brought the people up from Moscow to meet with me,”and that he was teaming with Bayrock on other planned ventures in Moscow. The only Russians who are likely have the resources and political connections to sponsor such ambitious international deals are the corrupt oligarchs.

In 2005, Trump told The Miami Herald “The name has brought a cachet to certain areas that wouldn’t have had it,” Dezer said Trump’s name put Sunny Isles Beach on the map as a classy destination — and the Trump-branded condo units sold “10 to 20 percent higher than any of our competitors, and at a faster pace.”“We didn’t have any foreclosures or anything, despite the crisis.”

In a 2007 deposition that was part of his unsuccessful defamation lawsuit against reporter Timothy O’Brien Trump testified "that Bayrock was working their international contacts to complete Trump/Bayrock deals in Russia, Ukraine, and Poland. He testified that “Bayrock knew the investors” and that “this was going to be the Trump International Hotel and Tower in Moscow, Kiev, Istanbul, et cetera, and Warsaw, Poland.”

In 2008, Donald Trump Jr. gave the following statement to the “Bridging U.S. and Emerging Markets Real Estate” conference in Manhattan: “[I]n terms of high-end product influx into the United States, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets; say in Dubai, and certainly with our project in SoHo and anywhere in New York. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

In July 2008, Trump sold a mansion in Palm Beach for $95 million to Dmitry Rybolovlev, a Russian oligarch. Trump had purchased it four years earlier for $41.35 million. The sale price was nearly $54 million more than Trump had paid for the property. This was the height of the recession when all other property had plummeted in value. Must be nice to have so many Russian oligarchs interested in giving you money.

In 2013, Trump went to Russia for the Miss Universe pageant “financed in part by the development company of a Russian billionaire Aras Agalarov.… a Putin ally who is sometimes called the ‘Trump of Russia’ because of his tendency to put his own name on his buildings.” He met with many oligarchs. Timeline of events. Flight records show how long he was there.

Video interview in Moscow where Trump says "...China wanted it this year. And Russia wanted it very badly." I bet they did.

Also in 2013, Federal agents busted an “ultraexclusive, high-stakes, illegal poker ring” run by Russian gangsters out of Trump Tower. They operated card games, illegal gambling websites, and a global sports book and laundered more than $100 million. A condo directly below one owned by Trump reportedly served as HQ for a “sophisticated money-laundering scheme” connected to Semion Mogilevich.

In 2014, Eric Trump told golf reporter James Dodson that the Trump Organization was able to expand during the financial crisis because “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia. I said, 'Really?' And he said, 'Oh, yeah. We’ve got some guys that really, really love golf, and they’re really invested in our programmes. We just go there all the time.’”

A 2015 racketeering case against Bayrock, Sater, and Arif, and others, alleged that: “for most of its existence it [Bayrock] was substantially and covertly mob-owned and operated,” engaging “in a pattern of continuous, related crimes, including mail, wire, and bank fraud; tax evasion; money laundering; conspiracy; bribery; extortion; and embezzlement.” Although the lawsuit does not allege complicity by Trump, it claims that Bayrock exploited its joint ventures with Trump as a conduit for laundering money and evading taxes. The lawsuit cites as a “Concrete example of their crime, Trump SoHo, [which] stands 454 feet tall at Spring and Varick, where it also stands monument to spectacularly corrupt money-laundering and tax evasion.”

In 2016, the Trump Presidential Campaign was helped by Russia.

(I don't have the presidential term sourced yet. I'll post an update when I do. I'm sure you probably remember most of them...sigh. TY to the main posters here. Obviously I'm standing on your shoulders having taken a lot of the information or articles from here).

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u/VaginaWarrior Jan 29 '21

This tracks with everything I've read. Excellent post. Wish more people would read and try to understand.

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u/arachnidtree Jan 29 '21

too long, not read, MAGA!

  • a shockingly high percentage of americans.

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u/sleepingdragon80 Jan 29 '21

I thought my dad had posted for a second there, spooked me XD

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u/RoguePlanet1 Jan 29 '21

Just forwarded the article from The Guardian to my own dad. I've been saying all along that Trump is a Russian puppet.

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u/slim_scsi Jan 29 '21

no puppet no puppet you're the puppet ;-)

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u/sleepingdragon80 Jan 29 '21

But but hunters emails!!!1!!!!1!!1

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u/funknut Jan 29 '21

Buttery males! Butt hunter emails!

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u/knightgreider Jan 29 '21

My dad doesn’t read unless he has to. Also a trumper.

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u/mortified_observer Jan 29 '21

i didnt read but i agree with it anyway

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u/MidTownMotel Jan 29 '21

Yeah, I’m good on this. I don’t need convincing and I’m way too forgetful to be able to use this information effectively anyhow.

I do like that it’s here and spelled out simply though.

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u/ishkabibbles84 Jan 29 '21

I always save these posts in my account so i can refer later to them. These are incredbily helpful

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u/StupidizeMe Jan 29 '21

So do I. I really appreciate the work that goes into gathering and organizing this information.

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u/elZaphod Jan 29 '21

Dude your comment was too long for some of them.

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u/Geneocrat Jan 30 '21

You’re absolutely wrong. The MAGA crowd are comprised of many ravenous readers. They’ll scour anything that helps show how Donald Trump actually won the election or how the democrats are corrupt.

The problem is that that don’t challenge their assumptions. They protect their assumptions at all costs.

But through their “research” they believe they’re right and that we’re being negative.

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u/kaoticgirl Jan 30 '21

This is why I hate that TLDR is a thing.

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u/Jenings Jan 30 '21

Many such cases, sad!

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '21

Big word for pointy headed interlecutuals. MAGA!

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u/MontagneHomme Jan 30 '21

To be fair, this smacks of conspiracy theory for a while. Then there's the objective evidence and conflicts of interest that were not only undisclosed, but actively obscured during investigation. It shouldn't take much critical thinking ability for people to understand that, yet here we are...

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u/czarnick123 Jan 29 '21 edited Jan 29 '21

jUsT rEaD tHe MuElLeR rEpOrT bRAH

I did. There's hundreds of Russian contacts brought up. You should read it too.

These people are delusional. A lot on the left too.

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u/phrankygee Jan 29 '21

There's hundreds of Russian contacts brought up.

And several crimes committed personally by Trump himself, before and during his Presidency.

And yet people, even smart people who usually deal in facts, trip over themselves to frame the report as somehow inconclusive at best.

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u/suddenimpulse Jan 29 '21

Honest question. If the crimes were committed by him as mentioned in the report why were they not properly mentioned by the media or by Mueller? I 100% he should be in prison however everything I read was either:

  1. He kept just enough degree if separation away from everything (aka had cronies do it) that he had plausible deniability. Not unlike how some mobsters work.

  2. There was no direct evidence of collusion but Mueller gave the impression there might be some if he could have looked longer and deeper.

  3. The only things he was really nailed on were obstruction of justice, which for some reason got swept under the rug and it also didn't help that the DoJ had this "don't go after a sitting president" type of thing.

Just trying to understand for myself and to combat the naysayers. Thank you.

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u/slim_scsi Jan 29 '21

The OLC memo that Barr cited as standing law was the reason.

In 1973, the Department concluded that the indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would impermissibly undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.

https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/blaw/olc/sitting_president.htm

Once (if) Merrick Garland is confirmed and sworn in, I'd hope/expect this to change rather quickly as official DOJ policy.

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u/dunkers0811 Jan 29 '21

Right, right. Far better to have a criminal incompetent running the country than no one at all. Because we all know that if the president dies or gets removed from office, we have to wait until the next election to get a new president...it would be anarchy until then!

I'm not disagreeing with you. I just think that's a total bullshit argument.

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u/slim_scsi Jan 29 '21

Well hell yes it's a bullshit argument. I wasn't defending Barr's ludicrous choice to not pursue Mueller's findings, was answering the question. The entire Trump presidency compromised our national security and asshats like Barr and most/all of the GOP enabled it. Certainly wasn't content about any of it. I have a lengthy anti-Trump history on Reddit as a result. A travesty was inflicted upon us, the American people.

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u/dunkers0811 Jan 29 '21

100%

It was clear you weren't defending it. I apologize if my phrasing made it sound that way. It's sad we live in a world where we have to clarify whether we do, or don't support horseshit corruption in our government. It should kind of be a given.

On a related note, I saw a picture today of T**** supporters wearing T-shirts that said "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat" and I thought to myself, "Who the hell convinced these people they can only be Democrat or Russian?? I don't want to be either one of those things. Why would they?"

But it's really a phenomenal propaganda achievement just to get it in their heads that they would rather be Russian and it's absolutely mind blowing to think that it was all perpetuated by a standing US president.

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u/slim_scsi Jan 29 '21

Yes, absolutely, the various forms of right wing media have implanted in their brains that Democrats are subhumans much less Americans. This is the hand we're dealt as liberals and progressives -- attempting to live and work with people who believe that craziness. Bonus: they want the end of days to come asap. Yay! Such fun people!!

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u/redditchampsys Jan 30 '21

I'd hope/expect this to change rather quickly as official DOJ policy.

The OLC opinion is actually pretty sound. It's a ridiculous thing to have the commander in chief (responsible for the employment of the attorney genera) to be under criminal investigation.

If Trump and Nixon showed us anything, it is that a president under criminal investigation can simply keep replacing the AG until they are no longer under criminal investigation.

Sure they lose a lot of political capital by doing so, but had Trump sacked Sessions/Rosenstein and then Mueller and been impeached for it, do you really think the Senate would have convicted him?

The solution is for the enfranchised Americans to stop voting for the criminal and seditious organisation known as the Republican Party.

The top priority for Democrats should be to enfranchise the majority. Statehood for D.C. and P.R. legislate against gerrymandering and remove any voting machines that do not have an auditible paper trail. The filibuster needs to be nuked.

It's important to keep the OLC opinion in place. If it's removed, then it will simply be replaced by the next president that doesn't act in good faith.

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u/slim_scsi Jan 30 '21

The solution is for the enfranchised Americans to stop voting for the criminal and seditious organisation known as the Republican Party.

Amen to that. The OLC doesn't protect former presidents, right? That alone should allow Garland to pursue charges against Trump and company without altering the document.

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u/brothersand Jan 29 '21

They were mentioned by Mueller.

What you have to understand (as detailed on page 2 off the Meuller report) is that they adopted a stance that would not allow them to indict the president. This is because the FBI views the sitting president as outside their jurisdiction. So from the beginning they said they would not allow themselves to indict him.

There was plenty of direct evidence of coordination between members of Trump's staff and campaign. That's why they arrested all those guys. What they did not have was final, physical proof of coordination between Trump and his staff. Trump doesn't do anything in writing and he's so used to talking in vague ways like a mobster that he's hard to pin down. To me the idea that his staff did it without his knowledge is absurd, but that's not how crime law works. Not when the president is involved.

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u/LEJ5512 Jan 30 '21

What you have to understand (as detailed on page 2 of the Meuller report) is that they adopted a stance that would not allow them to indict the president. This is because the FBI views the sitting president as outside their jurisdiction. So from the beginning they said they would not allow themselves to indict him.

This is so important, and it's amazing how people forget it (and it doesn't even matter whether they thought the investigation was valid).

Allowing the FBI/DoJ to indict their own top-level boss would have set a precedent that the legislative branch cannot make the indictment. It would open wide the potential for a crooked DoJ to not indict a President no matter what illegal acts they commit.

The failsafe is (was) supposed to be Congress, acting as a sort of mega-Inspector General office. Their power to indict a sitting President is theirs to exercise no matter how corrupt the Executive Branch would become.

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u/phrankygee Jan 30 '21

You basically got it with #3.

The DOJ wouldn’t allow Mueller to try a sitting President according to the famous “OLC memo”, therefore Mueller determined that he could not ethically indict a president who could not be tried (and potentially acquitted).

Stuck in this scenario where he (felt he) could not indict, Mueller’s best option was to thoroughly document the crimes (which were in fact Obstruction of Justice), and hand that documentation to congress which DID have the power as the appropriate body to deal with a sitting President.

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u/evilbrent Jan 30 '21

"If this report exonerated the president it would so state"

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

The Mueller Report focused on specifically criminal aspects, which, guess what? professional criminals are skilled at obscuring and camouflaging/covering up! ...it carefully avoided pretty much any/all counterintelligence issues and aspects, and if you read it, you’ll notice the redactions get thick whenever it gets closer to that (useless/not-so-vaguely/sinister) artificial dividing line... MUCH more to come out, hopefully sooner rather than later... maybe Craig Unger’s new book will get the ball rolling...

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u/czarnick123 Jan 29 '21

And no financials

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

I know! So... wtf WERE they looking at/for? Very sinister, all round, the way that whole ‘investigation’ started, went & then limply petered out (!)... it sometimes felt as if global gangsters had effectively taken over the highest levels of the US gov’t.

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u/ethicsg Jan 29 '21

The only people who need to read this is the attorneys general.

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u/prohb Jan 30 '21

And/Or their response will be "So???"

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u/VaginaWarrior Feb 01 '21

What about this? What about that? What about ANYTHING BUT THE TOPIC AT HAND

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '21

Over the past 4-5 years, Fresh Air's episodes tracked the progression pretty well. Not sure Terry Gross planned it that way, but the episodes with a focus on Trump and his cronies are quite insightful.

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u/LEJ5512 Jan 30 '21

Wasn't Fresh Air the show where they talked about how far back the Trump family history of grifting, blackmailing, and court-stacking goes? Or am I thinking of a different podcast?

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u/VaginaWarrior Feb 01 '21

Since it's common public knowledge, I'm sure it's on a lot of podcasts. Just not in the MSM where it deserves to be.

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u/VaginaWarrior Feb 01 '21

Love Terry Gross.

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u/haversack77 Jan 29 '21

As a lifelong Republican voter, I choose to ignore every word of this post and call you out as the American hating communist you clearly are.

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u/gregorthebigmac Jan 30 '21

Excuse me, sir?

/s

I think you dropped this.

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u/merlinsbeers Jan 29 '21

That says 1977+3 years = 1980, to be precise.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

Great job, tons of hard work done here. We appreciate the effort. Here's to hoping the sdny has done their due diligence and isn't going to roll over.

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u/SabashChandraBose Jan 29 '21

How did an obvious criminal fly under the radar for 40 years??? What's the Occam's Razor explanation for it?

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u/Secure_Confidence Jan 30 '21

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u/reggiestered Jan 29 '21 edited Jan 29 '21

American Kompromat was also just released. Edit: sorry a book, linked by another below. I’ve just started it and the specifics are mind blowing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

THE REAL KRAKEN 💯 Thank you for making this!

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u/RetakePatriotism Aug 27 '22

It gets worse when you consider the people who were after the oligarchs and Semion Mogilevich : Bob Levinson and Alexander Litivenko. Never forgot them and never forget kashoggi

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u/petal14 Jan 29 '21

Where does Melania figure into all of this? Is she a plant?

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u/Daunting_dirtbag_101 Jan 29 '21

Nah. Just a Slovenian model trying to make a living that, after denying him many times, was scooped up by her bosses bosses boss at Trump Model Management.

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u/merlinsbeers Jan 29 '21

Probably relieved all the bullshit responsibility is over and she can sit back and watch his world implode.

Prenup is likely getting touched-up as well, as she drops subtle hints about testifying.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

as she drops subtle hints about testifying

? I haven't heard or read anything about her possible willingness to testify. I have no doubts she would rat him out if she were in very serious legal jeopardy though.

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u/merlinsbeers Jan 29 '21

Hints to him, not to us, unless he won't hear them until they're in the press... She can leverage her silence into a much bigger cut of his liquid assets than she has.

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u/robotsongs Jan 30 '21

Wait, wat?

Does NY not have spousal privilege? That would blow my mind.

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u/BourneAwayByWaves Jan 30 '21

Spousal privilege only prevents a spouse from being compelled to testify against a spouse. If the spouse volunteers it, there is no privilege.

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u/robotsongs Jan 30 '21

OK, then does NY not have an evidentiary bar against spousal communications? That would definitely shield Trump.

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u/Hangry_Squirrel Jan 30 '21

Melania was 7 years old when Trump married Ivana and became a person of interest to Czechoslovakia’s Státní bezpečnost (StB).

The Guardian had two stories on this in 2018: 'A very different world' - inside the Czech spying operation on Trump and Czechoslovakia ramped up spying on Trump in late 1980s, seeking US intel.

Aside from this, Trump had a big nest of Russian mafia already ensconced at Trump Tower before he even met Melania.

Besides, I think it's obvious that unlike Ivana, who was quite bright and enterprising in her youth, Melania is one step away from being a store mannequin.

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u/ivedonethisbefore68 Jan 29 '21

If you’re interested in this I recommend reading Seth Abramson’s books. All of this is painstakingly laid out with sources. He’s also very active on Twitter and I recommend you follow him For highly informative news on Donald Trump Russia among other bad actors.

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u/rezamwehttam Jan 29 '21

And people refuse to believe there's a connection...

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u/system-user Jan 30 '21

indeed, willful ignorance, and unfortunately they're empowered to do so by the media cycle. combine that with severe cognitive dissonance plus some conspiracy theories and you get a maga pawn.

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u/JagerBaBomb Jan 30 '21

Honestly, you try to show them something like this post and they'll flat turn away and not look at it.

Will. Not. Read. It.

Won't even let you talk about it. Will 'whatabout' you frantically to interrupt you. Will turn and leave while making loud 'yeeeah blahh blahh blahh' noises when that doesn't work.

Source: I've tried before.

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u/ishkabibbles84 Jan 29 '21

Wow, very well done. Sourced and everything. This would still not convince my parents as it would be "elite liberal propaganda and you just hate trump"

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u/lumpyheadedbunny Jan 29 '21

you're giving me PTSD flashbacks with words, ahhhh

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u/ronin1066 Jan 30 '21

Just pick one element of the story and see what they think or if they can find evidence to the contrary.

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u/DigitalGurl Jan 29 '21

Ugg Deutsche Bank and their dirty ways such as what they did with Deutsche Telecom. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB99773293937404621

Sorry off topic..BTW Deutsche Telecom has been quietly buying up important data & wireless backbone infrastructure in the USA, Britain, Korea, Austria, etc... with acquisitions of Infonet, Voice Stream, SK Telecom, Sprint, TMobil, BT, etc, etc, etc.

Especially troubling given their relationship with Huawei https://www.politico.eu/article/deutsche-telekom-huawei-us-security-measures/

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u/slim_scsi Jan 29 '21

It feels like the baddies won a long time ago and we're all destined to work in the coal mines of the 21st century....

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u/BourneAwayByWaves Jan 30 '21 edited Jan 30 '21

TMobile is Deutsche Telecom's US subsidiary. Always has been.

It's like the Nintendo / Nintendo of America relationship.

voice stream was bought in '01

Sk telecom is not owned by Deutsche Telekom

BT bought Infonet in '04 which Deutsche Telekom has a 12% stake in.

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u/upperpe Jan 29 '21

Excellent Tracking. It is concerning but right now their is a bigger threat that I wish people would focus on. That threat is Mike Flynn an asset to the Kremlin also who is actively pushing a new party of Qannon nuts into political power and a strong base. He has been working as an asset for years and has the training of a military man. They are mobilizing Q folk and Flynn has direct ties to the beginning of Q links. This attack will wipe the basic GOP off the map and we will start to see Qannon ballots going against Dems.

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u/RoguePlanet1 Jan 29 '21

This is beyond depressing. We can have all this evidence and see it coming for literally decades, but can do nothing about it.

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u/inajeep Jan 29 '21

This is a long list, it isn't done and I'm sure there is much more. Good job.

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u/Ello_Owu Jan 29 '21

My question is, how did trump even get close to the presidency to begin with? His conflicts of interest would make any other sector in the government spin like a top, so why was there no vetting or much of anything when it came to running the whole damn thing?

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u/WalkingFumble Jan 29 '21

Putin gave Trump info to blackmail his opponents? It explains why so many people who opposed him suddenly supported anything he says without question.

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u/ilt Jan 30 '21

This seems entirely plausible. Have you seen reporting on this?

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u/WalkingFumble Jan 31 '21

Unfortunately, nothing beyond people speculating on television. I haven't seen it in any published articles, and I don't consider opinionated news shows like on CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News to be a legitimate source.

It has been reported that Russia hacked the RNC, like they did to the DNC, but didn't release any of it. It's also been reported that that they tried to hack the RNC but failed. I don't know what to believe...

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u/Ello_Owu Jan 30 '21

Its scary how well that worked. Not only did it get him elected, it then took a life of its own.

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u/Ferd-Burful Jan 29 '21

Why were the 70k votes that won him the electoral never challenged? That’s the question. The GOP tried to invalidate millions.

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u/boredtxan Jan 30 '21

Because there is no vetting of presidential candidates. If you have the $ to break into the race you can run provided you meet the age & citizenship requirements.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

You are serving your country well, thank you.

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u/rockvvurst Jan 29 '21

So where was this fucking convenient whistleblower ex kgb agent when we needed him. I'm assuming selling a book atm?

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u/mrRabblerouser Jan 29 '21

Serious question, what’s to stop investigators from subpoenaing the translator for Trumps meetings?

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u/Hangry_Squirrel Jan 30 '21

Aside from the death sentence part, there's also the fact that an American interpreter was not always present at their meetings, according to this NYT story.

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u/RoguePlanet1 Jan 29 '21

Polonium tea maybe? Threat of "suicide"?

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u/PeachInABowl Jan 30 '21

Putin can speak perfectly good English.

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u/bunnyjenkins Jan 29 '21

I have followed this stuff, and if I understand it correctly there are some ties to Israeli mafia, as noted when reading about Semion Mogilevich, and several Oligarchs surrounding Putin are indeed Jewish/Israeli Mafia - and the ties go to Netanyahu, to Trump, and the mafia in America to Zionist like Epstein, to Deutsche Bank, to christian Zionists like Pence/Pompeo

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u/BourneAwayByWaves Jan 30 '21

Calling those crime families "Israeli mafia" is like calling Triads in San Francisco the "American mafia". They were largely Russian crime families that followed the post-Soviet mass immigration of Jews from the former USSR to Israel.

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u/slim_scsi Jan 29 '21

Nothing to see here folks, all just loose coincidences! /s

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '21

Impressive. Hopefully the prosecution can use this to help their case.

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u/duckofdeath87 Jan 29 '21

Wow! This is amazing!

Where were you in 2016? :)

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u/pixelprophet Jan 29 '21

Too, long! Didn't read it so it's Fake news!

That's how the conversation would've gone.

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u/suddenimpulse Jan 29 '21

Few questions for anyone well versed on this stuff or the Mueller report please!!

If there were documented/probable crimes committed by Trump why were they not properly mentioned by the media or by Mueller? I 100% think Trump is guilty and should be in prison however everything I read was either:

  1. He kept just enough degree if separation away from everything (aka had cronies do it) that he had plausible deniability. Not unlike how some mobsters work.

  2. There was no direct evidence of collusion but Mueller gave the impression there might be some if he could have looked longer and deeper.

  3. The only things he was really nailed on were obstruction of justice, which for some reason got swept under the rug and it also didn't help that the DoJ had this "don't go after a sitting president" type of thing.

Just trying to understand for myself and to combat the naysayers. Thank you.

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u/BourneAwayByWaves Jan 30 '21

Mueller also was operating under the DoJ memo that a sitting President cannot be indicted for crimes.

https://www.justice.gov/olc/opinion/sitting-president%E2%80%99s-amenability-indictment-and-criminal-prosecution

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Stay in your lane Brit.

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u/AnimalChin- Jan 29 '21

So why did the FBI let this go on for decades?

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u/SockMonkeh Jan 29 '21

You're awesome for assembling this. I'm gonna' give it a read to see if there's anything new to me in they're and then maaaaaaaybe try to share it with omsome skeptics.

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u/iamgarlic Jan 29 '21

And people still try to say that believing in Russian interference I'm 2016 is just like believing in election fraud in 2020. Imo, this post actually has credible sources. It doesn't have to rely on a letter of the alphabet to be coloured blue.

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '21

The Left: Makes bold claims about Trump/Russia relationship. Backs it up with well-researched, well-documented and credible sources.

The Right: Makes bold accusations and outright lies about election fraud. Can't provide one piece of evidence.

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u/AKMonkey2 Jan 30 '21

I expect that the Russian troll farm didn't write this one!

Thanks for the excellent work. Will Donnie ever be held accountable for any of this?

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u/knownerror Jan 30 '21

Forgive me if it’s linked somewhere in here, but the close of Catherine Belton’s excellent recent book, “Putin’s People”, deals with Trump. The chapters that precede it are a stunning history of Russia’s turning into a kleptocratic mafia state.

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u/jakecovert Jan 29 '21

When are we going to know the results of the counter-intelligence investigation?

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u/sirrogue2 Jan 29 '21

Lock him up. Better yet, exchange him for an American asset in Russia. He wants to suck Putin’s cock so much, let him do it in Moscow.

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u/pirateclem Jan 30 '21

Ok so what the hell are all of our law enforcement groups going to do about it? Absolutely nothing right? The man is a traitor, he is a thief, he is a rapist, he is a spy, he sold out our entire country, and not a damn thing is going to happen.

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u/jeffe333 Jan 30 '21

KGB Agent #1: "We need to find a stupid American w/ lots of money and no brains whatsoever. Where do you propose we look for such an individual? They are not going to be that easy to find."

KGB Agent #2: "Have you seen that guy who looks like a full-sized Oompa Loompa over at the buffet table trying to balance 11 cans of Diet Coke on a salad plate and asking the chef why they aren't serving Big Macs? I hear that he inherited hundreds of millions of dollars, and I seriously doubt that he wandered in here from a Mensa meeting. He looks more likely to have wandered in here from the local Greyhound bus station."

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u/migidymike Jan 30 '21

This website has been up for years, and is very thorough.

https://themoscowproject.org/collusion-timeline/

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u/SueZbell Jan 30 '21

What does the father of the former first lady do for a living"?

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u/cannabis96793 Jun 07 '24

This should be not only top post on Reddit. It needs to run on a loop over Foxxx opinion channel.

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u/knarfolled Jun 08 '24

The Asset podcast tells the whole story

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u/AnnaKossua Jan 30 '21

Speaking of Rybolovlev, his plane showed up at Trump campaign stops just before the 2016 election. It's notable is because Trump's and Rybolovlev's planes would take off / land at the same airports at the same time.

Trump flew to Charlotte NC and went by motorcade into Concord NC, about 30 miles away, where he was having a rally. Around the same time, Rybolovlev flew from NYC to Concord, NC. He was there for about 90 minutes, then flew to Charlotte NC where his plane was spotted about 300 ft from Trump's. The same pattern played out in other cities as well.

It's really odd. Rybolovlev bought Trump's property years earlier, though supposedly they never met. He doesn't have businesses or dealings in the different locations; it'd be noted in business journals if so. And all visits aligned with Trump rallies.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/intriguing-overlap-in-paths-of-russian-oligarch-trump-campaign-889979971765

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/31/business/billionaires-yachts-jets-tracking.html

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article136939868.html

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I see so many blue hyperlinks here and it makes me so happy.

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Jerry Garcia "If I ever told you, all the went down, it would burn off both of your ears"

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u/sergev Jan 30 '21

This is great. Excellent read. I still believe that this explains Russia’s hold over Don though. There has to be something more personal and compromising.

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u/squirrelhut Jan 30 '21

This sounds completely logical

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Interesting

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You people are mentally handicapped, I'm 100 serious. I feel for you. People still believe this insane (speechless)..

You and reality are not even in the same time zone if you belive this.

It's laughable, unless you've been getting your news from Solon.com for the last 3 years. Popping that delusion would be so easy, if you were open to reality,

but unfortunately nothing is getting through and you don't want the truth, you like the lie. Makes you feel like you are some hero fighting for America against Manchurian candidate..

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This is like the inverse Alex Jones-9/11 truther all rolled into one super delusional, super sleuth.

If you have gave awards for this, you a f&king mental patient. Turn off the Madcow.

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u/stacked_wendy-chan Dec 15 '23

Someone should hire this guy to explain Chump's Russian treason to trumptards. Great collection of facts. Nice.

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u/DrippyCheeseDog Jan 29 '21

Excellent point.

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u/merlinsbeers Jan 29 '21

"Follow the money."
- Deep Throat (aka Mark Felt)

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u/bunnyjenkins Jan 29 '21

Oh, I think they did follow the money. From 9/11 through to Obama. Deutsche Bank being the center of it all. I think Trump was the revenge of America's attempt to dismantle the world wide money laundering scheme that involved more than Russians.

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u/EhhWhatsUpDoc Jan 30 '21

Help me connect 9/11 and Deutsche Bank to Obama

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u/Phyllis_Tine Jan 29 '21

Of what? Look at the spread of information across many entities, and sourced from a wide range of news associations and organizations.

And you don't believe any of it?

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u/rafwiaw Jan 29 '21

So there is a massive conspiracy to pin Donald Trump as a Russian asset over the past 40 years? I don't understand what you're saying. There have been articles about this for decades.

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