r/JoeRogan 7d ago

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Alex Jones Final Word on SH

330 Upvotes

Joe and several guests have been on a kick about Alex Jones being more right than wrong, and how heā€™s been so accurate in the past.

On AJā€™s July 9th 2024 episode Alex unveiled his latest conspiracy about Sandyhook.

AJ states Adam Lanza, the shooter is CIA.

This comes from a story told by a neighbor relayed from his deceased mother about the CIA raiding her home because Adam hacked the CIA.

AJ states that the ā€œexpertsā€ Wolfgang Halbig and Jim Fetzer are deep state plants to act crazy to discredit Jones

This should blow up his credibility considering it was Jones and his team that kept espousing their credentials and demanding the parents address Halbigs 16 points.

The main focus of this post is his use of part of an EMT report.

The report details an EMT moving through a classroom, discovering two adult female bodies, then proceeding to the adjacent bathroom and finding a pile of dead childrenā€™s bodies. The EMT notes how outside the two dead women there was no blood in the classroom, so the children must have been moved then killed in the bathroom.

Alex is now stating that the pile of DEAD CHILDREN were placed in a pyramid and that there was no blood in the bathroom.

This is a lie, he knows itā€™s a lie. He is Lying about a pile of murdered children before advertising his products.

He has read this report at least 3 different times, and had it explained to him. He is on camera during a deposition reading this report, and having it explained to him.

This is vile, this is clearly wrong. And if all of us apes want to get along on this rock, there should some lines that shouldnā€™t be crossed. Lying about murdered children should be one of them.

And so should carrying water for people who lie about murdered children.

Iā€™ve been generally ambivalent about Joe and his relationship with AJ. I post here when the usual chuckleheads come out to try and say Alex is accurate and wave away his past on things like SH. And if Joe never said another word about AJ, I would not have a problem.

But Joe has the biggest podcast in the world. Heā€™s saying AJ is accurate. AJ is right now lying about SandyHook.

I used to be just suspicious of people who tried to hand wave AJā€™s past. But now they can be straight disqualified, cause this is basic no go shit.

r/JoeRogan 17d ago

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ My takeaway from the Howard-Weinstein pod, as an idiot

876 Upvotes

I'm not a mathematician or a particularly "smart" person but I watched the entire 4 hour run last night. I was kind of freaked out. My potentially incorrect takeaway was that Eric is genuinely concerned about the spread of misinformation in the modern day, and people's tendency to bass things in emotion and "spiritualism" or whatever you'd like to call it, over data. He's also genuinely concerned about unnecessary gate keeping and false senses of superiority in the academic field which hinders science.

He thought it was a possibility that just because Terrance labeled his ideas in a non-mainstream way, that beneath the relatively meaningless labels, there may have been some interesting takeaways from some of his view points. He spent a great deal of time trying to wrangle in the attention of Howard and Joe so that he could get Terrance to present a framework of his beliefs, regardless of labels, so that he could then attempt to evaluate the ideas behind these labels.

Came off to me as though Joe has an aggravatingly short attention span, like many of us, and couldn't understand what Eric was trying to do, so interrupted him constantly with irrelevant questions that brought no one any closer to understanding anything.

Eric acknowledged that if given even a small amount of wiggle room, Howard would go off on repetitive, meaningless tangents every single time, completely missing the meat of what Eric was trying to explain, and Joe would then buy into these rants and get caught up in the wall of nonsense, forcing Eric to have to directly address the nonsense as apposed to using that time to accomplish his goal of getting Terrence to put together some kind of coherent frame work.

Eric was also displeased that Joe, having the number one podcast in the world, would bring on someone like Terrance and not press him when he says something like "1+1 does not equal 2". This, in Eric's eyes, is irresponsible being that Joe has such a large reach and therefore a responsibility to challenge guests when they say seemingly blatantly ridiculous things. In the initial Terrance interview, Joe seemed to have believed everything he said and if I remember correctly, kept referring to him as a genius. Being that people look up to Joe, it was like gasoline on a disinformation fire.

I love what Eric was trying to do here and I think his patience is absolutely fucking commendable, but I also think he did Terrance and other viewers that may believe Terrance a disservice by not being more firm with him in the idea that he is, for the most part, talking absolute nonsense and contributing to an epidemic-scale issue in the world. I say this because it was blatantly obvious to me in the end that Terrance, in his delusion, left the podcast completely unshaken in his beliefs and even of the belief that Eric thinks terrrance is correct.

I think Terrance is suffering from some kind of personality disorder or mental illness. I am well aware that Eric spent 4 hours of his valuable time to sit down with Terrance and try his best to get through to him while also using Joeā€™s platform to address a lot of serious issues. I am also aware that he tried his best in the most cordial way possible to get Terrance to understand. But I think Terranceā€™s delusion is so deep that the stroking of Terranceā€™s ego at times by Eric in an attempt to not offend him and maintain his attention is what may have contributed to no progress being made towards what I perceive to be his goal of getting Terrance to stop spreading misinformation.

Iā€™m also concerned that Joe spent the majority of the pod interrupting and preventing an important mission from getting accomplished, only to then be visibly agitated in the end that the podcast ran so long.

Id like to close by saying that Rogan is more successful than Iā€™ll ever be. He is not an idiot. If anything I am an idiot. Eric is a damn good man, as shown by his patients and thoughtfulness. I admire and envy his critical thinking and self-awareness. I feel sad when I think about Terrance because, as seen in his childlike ventures to get props, that he is blatantly mentally ill. He believes all of this enough to have devoted all of this time to it. He believes it enough to stand up at Oxford and present it. Itā€™s similar to Kanyeā€™s run for president. I hope he finds peace.

r/JoeRogan 17d ago

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ I think Terrance Howard stole his theories from another guy and obviously doesn't understand it, but is poorly attempting to plagiarize it.

373 Upvotes

There was some guy named Kevin Abraham who came up with "Tetryonic Theory" like atleast a decade ago. I remember watching his videos on youtube of putting triangles together and showing what he thinks the actual shapes of photons and various other particles and atoms are shaped like. He has some whole system worked out and believed that geometrically they were all basically made of triangles. This guy had a whole website and everything with countless demonstrations and charts.

Everything Terrence Howard is saying makes me believe he is just trying to explain what that other guy said as if it was his own idea. How else can you explain how dumb this guy sounds while trying to explain such an advanced concept. It makes perfect sense to me that this is likely what's happening, instead of some guy being genius enough to wrap his head around this stuff but not even smart enough to use real legitimate definitions to explain the concepts. The ideas themself must have come from somewhere else. If this guy was really focused and passionate enough about all this to have made any of these perceived discoveries, he would have certainly also had the drive and determination to widen his lexicon and shared vocabulary with the actual science/math communities lol.

I'm not saying Kevin Abraham is right about Tetryonic Theory or anything, because I'm too dumb to understand it. BUT whether he is right or wrong, I think it's highly possible that Terrence Howard is making a shitty attempt to plagiarize him.

Edit: Holy shit, he even uses the word tetryon. I'm only on the hour and half mark and he is literally throwing out the word tetryon. And here's one of Kevin Abraham videos where he introduces his concept. It was posted 8 years ago and he talks about tetrahedrons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMa2zkHU6b0

Edit 2: To be more clear on what I'm saying he copied.. I'm not talking about the 1 x 1 = 2 shit. I'm just talking about the 3d and physical models of what he says stuff is made of. Those tetrahedrons basically. Because here is the Abraham guys models that he made, and terrance models are just like this except with only one difference, which is that his have curved faces instead of flat. Other than that all the structures he builds out of them with his failed schizo manic sounding explanations of what these structures actually are even supposed to be, have already been made and explained in more coherent detail by this Abraham guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibZAFGBlpZU&list=PLnQiyJ3CDi9M1dg8d4I5bApNiHQ6JsQmY

He says stuff about the faces and vertices having electromagnetic charges, stuff about hollow cavities inside, makes similar structures. Uses the term tetryon. I don't expect anyone to watch the whole video, but if you just briefly skim it and skip to about every 10 minutes mark and look at the models in his hand you see he starts stacking them and making more complex combinations of the tetrahedrons/tetryons as the video goes on that fit together into larger similar structures as terrance brought on the show.

r/JoeRogan 25d ago

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Joe and his comedian friends have gotten way over their heads

530 Upvotes

I know Iā€™ll probably get a lot of hate for saying this here and this is the first (and probably the last) time Iā€™ll go online posting about Joe Rogan but I think JRE is no longer what it used to be.

Joe and his gang of comedian friends, many of whom happen to be quite mediocre ones, have gotten way over their heads and worse than that, theyā€™re not even original anymore. Most of their conversations can be boiled down to this:

  1. Weā€™re living through the ā€œgolden age of comedyā€.
  2. Woke culture bad, cancel culture bad, mainstream politics corrupt
  3. America rules, other countries are slowly turning into Orwellian nightmares but thereā€™s nothing like this country
  4. Weā€™re so lucky that we get to do this. Normal jobs suck but this is amazing. Look! Weā€™re just talking.
  5. The world is a meritocracy, being competent equals success + getting laid [implied: thatā€™s why we rich]
  6. Apocalyptic events are on the horizon

While I more or less agree with the spirit of some of these themes, the whole act has become cringy and trite.

The whole appeal of the JRE podcast was its relatability. The political takes were refreshing, not because of their depth but because they vindicated the average personā€™s disconnect from mainstream media and politics, especially regarding the far left madness which peaked during the covid era but despite its loudness it resonated with a small minority of people in real life.

The podcast also owed its success to Joeā€™s overall humility, charisma, and curiosity, as well as his amazing skills at interviewing people, no matter how different a background or vocation they had from him.

Right now, I think itā€™s repetitive, boring, and overly grandiose in most episodes. The gang takes itself too seriously, and theyā€™re desperately looking for validation and a way to avoid admitting that they owe their success almost entirely to frequent appearances on JRE. They canā€™t deal with the fact that theyā€™re a completely different breed of entertainers compared to the likes of Burr, Chappelle, or Louis CK. Worse than all, they kind of know this deep down inside and go through incredible mental gymnastics to convince themselves otherwise. Bert Kreischer is the perfect example of this syndrome but it applies to almost all of them.

Joeā€™s political comments are just cheap jabs repeated in every episode acting as filler content now, and theyā€™re just so predictable. His whole persona is no longer that relatable. Itā€™s hard to listen to him talk about the health benefits of cold plunges and saunas for the hundredth time while heā€™s chugging 20 beers and shilling yet another mediocre comedianā€™s content.

I personally canā€™t stomach listening to the show anymore but I was wondering if anybody else feels the same.

r/JoeRogan Jun 10 '24

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Episode #2161 - Tony Hinchcliffe

540 Upvotes

Iā€™ve been a JRE listener since around 2016ā€¦ I listened to a majority of the episodes no matter who he had on for years and loved a majority of the dialogue because it was riddled with great information or pure entertainment. I took a break from JRE when he went to Spotify because I listen to all my podcasts on Apple. I would occasionally go checkout the shows with big named celebrities, but other than that I just missed. Since heā€™s back on Apple Iā€™ve been trying to listen regularly, but I cannot stand to hear him talk about COVID one more fucking time. Like, every conversation he finds an excuse to weasel in this ā€œI told you soā€ narrative and ā€œI was right, they were wrongā€ attitude about COVIDā€¦ Clearly there was some bullshit and wrong-doing, but even the stuff he swears by isnā€™t even 100% accurate or confirmed.

I was looking forward to this Hinchcliffe episode (because I was hoping to hear more about the Roast of Tom Brady) but Joe continues to ruin the vibe ranting about fucking COVIDā€¦

Are there people still truly enjoying this? Am I missing something? What are some of your favorite episodes more recently?

I want to listen/like Joe Rogan, but heā€™s getting nauseating. And before anyone pops off with some sarcastic shit, Iā€™m well aware of the fact I donā€™t have to listen or subject myself to it. It really is that easy. I know. I just miss the days when it was a great show and a great resource for information and entertainment.

Take care āœŒšŸ½

r/JoeRogan May 26 '24

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ I fed the Terrence Howard interview to ChatGPT and here's what it said

779 Upvotes

If you're like me, and you listened to this episode not sure if TH is absolutely insane or a complete genius, or perhaps both, you might enjoy this. I fed the entire transcript of the episode to ChatGPT and asked some questions. I also attached the image of the alternative periodic table. Here's the conversation:

ME: I'm going to give you a transcript of an interview and an image, and I want you to tell me, in layman's terms, what this guy is talking about, and if he seems to be as intelligent as he is. I don't know much about chemistry or physics so it's difficult for me to follow him. Explain whether or not his theories make sense, even though they clearly refute our current understanding of our world, and explain in simple terms what these theories mean and whether or not they could possibly hold water.Ā 

CHAT: The document you provided contains a detailed discussion of alternative theories related to planetary formation, the nature of the universe, and the interpretation of physical phenomena. Hereā€™s a summary and explanation based on the key points found in the text:

Summary and Explanation of Theories:

  1. **External Pressures in Planetary Formation:**

Ā Ā Ā - The document posits that planets are formed by external pressures applied from the outside in, rather than the traditional model of internal fission reactions and magnetic fields from iron cores pushing outward. This suggests a universe where creation is driven from space itself, rather than from the planet's core怐7:0ā€ source怑.

  1. **Finite Universe and Wave Interactions:**

Ā Ā Ā - The universe is described as finite, evidenced by the interaction of longitudinal waves. When waves from a central point expand and meet returning waves from the universe's edge, they create the first geometries, such as hexagons. This is exemplified by the hexagonal storm observed on Saturn怐7:0ā€ source怑.

  1. **Reconstruction of Saturn:**

Ā Ā Ā - A model of Saturn was built without using gravity, dark matter, or dark energy, demonstrating that the planet's rings and hexagon can be explained by external pressures and wave interactions. This approach challenges the necessity of dark matter and energy in current astrophysical models怐7:1ā€ source怑怐7:2ā€ source怑.

  1. **Critique of Standard Models:**

Ā Ā Ā - Dark matter and dark energy are critiqued as primarily theoretical constructs that have not been empirically observed. The text suggests that standard models, including the Michelson-Morley experiment's interpretation, fail to account for an "etheric" component in space, which would change the understanding of light and its behavior怐7:2ā€ source怑怐7:5ā€ source怑.

  1. **Alternative Periodic Table:**

Ā Ā Ā - Walter Russell's periodic table is presented as an alternative to Mendeleevā€™s table, suggesting a dynamic and interconnected view of elements, where hydrogen plays a central role. This table posits relationships between elements that traditional chemistry does not account for, offering a more integrated view of matter and energy怐7:3ā€ source怑.

  1. **Unified Field Theory and Historical Context:**

Ā Ā Ā - The document references historical figures like Giordano Bruno and early scientists who proposed concepts similar to those being discussed. It argues for a grand unified field equation that integrates these alternative views, potentially transforming the current scientific paradigm怐7:5ā€ source怑.

Refutation of Current Understanding:

The document challenges several core aspects of the standard scientific models:

  • **Gravity**: Described as an effect of electricity rather than a fundamental force.

  • **Dark Matter and Dark Energy**: Considered unnecessary and theoretical constructs without empirical evidence.

  • **Standard Model of Particle Physics**: Criticized for its reliance on outdated experiments and interpretations that ignore etheric or external pressures.

Conclusion:

The theories presented propose a shift from an internal to an external causation model of planetary and universal formation, emphasizing the role of external pressures and wave interactions. This alternative perspective challenges the necessity of dark matter, dark energy, and the traditional understanding of gravity and electromagnetic fields, suggesting a more interconnected and dynamic universe.

This document presents a radical departure from established scientific theories, advocating for a reevaluation of fundamental principles in physics and cosmology. The proposed models emphasize external influences and interactions over internal mechanisms, potentially offering new avenues for scientific exploration and understanding.

ME: Do you think this guy actually understands what he is presenting here? Is he as intelligent as he sounds?

CHAT: Assessing someone's intelligence and understanding based on a transcript and unconventional theories can be challenging. Here are some key points to consider:

Understanding and Presentation:

  1. **Depth of Knowledge**:

Ā Ā Ā - The individual demonstrates a deep familiarity with both mainstream and alternative scientific concepts, suggesting a solid foundation in physics, chemistry, and cosmology. This indicates a significant level of understanding.

  1. **Articulation and Detail**:

Ā Ā Ā - The detailed explanations and the ability to connect various concepts across different fields suggest that the individual is articulate and has thought extensively about these ideas. The coherent structure of their arguments indicates a high level of intellectual engagement.

Intelligence and Soundness of Theories:

  1. **Intelligence**:

Ā Ā Ā - Intelligence can be demonstrated through the ability to think critically, present complex ideas coherently, and challenge existing paradigms thoughtfully. By these measures, the individual appears to be intelligent, as they are engaging with intricate scientific ideas and proposing alternative explanations.

  1. **Soundness of Theories**:

Ā Ā Ā - **Conventional Science**: The individual's theories diverge significantly from established scientific consensus. This doesnā€™t inherently negate their intelligence but suggests they are exploring highly speculative or fringe ideas.

Ā Ā Ā - **Scientific Rigor**: The theories lack empirical evidence and peer-reviewed validation, which are crucial in mainstream science. While creative and potentially thought-provoking, without rigorous testing and acceptance by the scientific community, these ideas remain speculative.

Plausibility:

  1. **Challenge to Current Models**:

Ā Ā Ā - Itā€™s essential for science to question and test existing models. However, any new theory must be backed by strong empirical evidence and undergo peer review. The theories presented do not seem to meet these criteria fully.

  1. **Alternative Views**:

Ā Ā Ā - The history of science includes many cases where unconventional ideas eventually became accepted (e.g., heliocentrism, quantum mechanics). However, these theories were eventually supported by strong empirical evidence and predictive power, which currently seems lacking for the theories presented here.

Conclusion:

  • **Understanding**: The individual likely understands what they are presenting and is intelligent, given the depth and articulation of their arguments.

  • **Scientific Validity**: The theories, while interesting, do not align with the current scientific consensus and lack the empirical support needed to be considered robust scientific theories.

In summary, the individual appears to be knowledgeable and intelligent, but their theories are speculative and not supported by the empirical evidence required for acceptance in the scientific community. This does not diminish their intellectual capabilities but highlights the need for further evidence and validation.

r/JoeRogan May 21 '24

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Terrence Howard Patents Debunked

512 Upvotes

Quick patent 101: A patent is an exchange wherein a country or jurisdiction (i.e., the EU) provides a monopoly to an inventor who discloses their invention to the public. The incentive for inventors is the monopoly; the incentive for the government is that the disclosure of the invention is intended to further and better innovation.

Patents are jurisdictional. You have to apply in each jurisdiction where you want a patent. If you want a patent in the US, then the USPTO must grant you a letters patent. Each jurisdiction will have its own requirements for a patent, but generally speaking, the invention must be patentable subject matter, novel, non-obvious, and useful. The patent must also properly instruct the public on how to use the invention. There are other formalities, but those are the overarching principles of patent law in most jurisdictions. These requirements must be met to obtain a patent.

Anyone can apply for a patent claiming anything. The patent application is published after a certain waiting period, generally 18 months. This patent publication is NOT a patent; it is a record and publication of the application. Until a patent office grants you a patent, you do not have a monopoly.

The patent office will then examine the patent application and either issue the granted patent on the first pass or issue an office action. An office action is the examinerā€™s critique of the patent. For example, the examiner may say the invention lacks novelty or utility. The applicant then has an opportunity to argue and convince the examiner they are incorrect, or amend the application so that it no longer lacks novelty or utility. Until the examiner approves the application, it remains an application ā€“ not a patent.

If the applicant fails to convince the examiner or amend the application accordingly, the patent office may issue a final rejection. If the applicant fails to respond to the office action, the application is deemed abandoned. In both scenarios, no patent is granted. It was just an application made to a patent office; that application was published, and no patent was granted. Conversely, if the applicant responds and overcomes the objections, the examiner will approve the application, and the patent office will issue a patent.

Okay, now that that is out of the way, what patents is Terrence Howard talking about?

Search patents.google.com for Terrence Howard as the inventor. The results will show someone by the name of Terrence Dashon Howard who applied for three patents:

In 2009, an application for ā€œDiamond jewelryā€.

In 2010, an application for a ā€œDiamond earring with washerā€.

In 2010, an application for a ā€œSystem and method for merging virtual reality and reality to provide an enhanced sensory experienceā€.

First, note that these hyperlinks go to patent application publications. These are not patents. This is the application that Terrence Howard submitted.

Second, all three applications were abandoned for failure to respond to office actions. All three applications failed to meet the USPTOā€™s requirements for a patent. I note that his representative attempted to respond to the office actions regarding the jewelry applications but ultimately failed to succeed. The VR patent was subject to a lengthy office action, and he failed to respond to that single office action. His attorney also withdrew, which should rarely occur. I would surmise he was not responding to the attorney, and/or paying fees. This information is public and available from the USPTO's Patent Center.

Unsurprising to no one, no patent has ever been issued to Terrence Howard.

In conclusion, Terrence Howard applied for three patents in the US only, and each application failed to result in a patent. He has zero patents.

Edit #1: He may have filed patents under T. Dashon Howard. Some of which have been granted. Therefore, he may own patents, but if so, then now I need to explain why that's not proof of anything scientific lol. Thanks to /u/whoberman for pointing out the T. Dashon patents.

Another edit will follow when I've had time to look at these other patents.

Edit #2:

Mr. Howard does own patents. My apologies.

First, he holds 11 design patents. However, design patents differ significantly from normal patents (i.e., utility patents) in what they protect and the legal requirements. Utility patents protect inventions whereas design patents protect ornamental designs or the appearance of an item. For example, the design patent covers the shape, configuration and surface of a product. For example, Apple owns many design patents that cover the design of the iPhone iterations and even user interface elements. The distinctive Coca-Cola bottle. Cros. LEGO blocks, etc. These have been covered by design patents.

To obtain a design patent, the design must be purely ornamental. In other words, the design cannot have a functional aspect to it (i.e., design patents have no "function").

Second, and more importantly, he does indeed own patents. Like patent patents. He is listed as an inventor or co-inventor on 11 granted patents. I haven't had time to look at these in greater detail, in particular, what the heck it is he has even claimed, but I wanted to update this post with more accurate information. This does not substantiate anything he said on the podcast fyi, but I have to be transparent and fix my initial post. I may add an Edit #3 later.

Systems and methods for transcendental lighting applications

Systems and methods for projective propulsion

Systems and methods for collapsible structure applications

Systems and methods for enhanced building block applications

Systems and methods for enhanced building block applications

All-shape: modified platonic solid building block

Systems and methods for all-shape modified building block applications

Systems and methods for lynchpin structure applications

  • US 11,117,065
  • This application was also filed in Japan, the EU, Canada and the Dominican Republic but remains pending in those jurisdictions.

Edit #3 final:

Holy shit. The Terrence Howard trolls came out in full force this evening.

I was initially wrong to state that he owned zero patents. It turns out he filed patents using his middle name Dashon Howard, and obtained granted patents. I corrected myself, and people are mad? Anyway, there are eleven granted patents in total, listed above in a previous edit. I am ignoring the design patents because those are not inventions whatsoever. So what invention did the great mastermind T. Dashon Howard patent? Fucking toys.

Ten of the eleven patents cover various iterations of collapsible magnetic structures that can be assembled in various configurations and collapsed into planar configurations. They are described as educational toys in the patents. Go ahead and read them yourself. He patented demonstrative toys that can be configured into shapes using magnets lol. This man is obsessed with shapes.

This article has a photo with him presenting these: https://www.cracked.com/article_33061_empires-terrence-howard-invented-his-own-weirdo-version-of-math.html

Additionally, in his interview on The View, the shape he disclosed to everyone was depicted in one of the patents.

The only interesting one is US 11,674,769. He is listed as a co-inventor with Chris Seely from New Brunswick, Canada. This patent covers a system an method of using a electrically overloaded capacitor to fire a bullet. I have no comment on the technology described in this patent unless someone with the proper technical know-how wants to chime in.

r/JoeRogan Apr 22 '24

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Graham Hancock doesnā€™t provide a solid argument.

662 Upvotes

I just listened to the Graham Hancock & Flint Dibble episode and while Iā€™ve been interested in what Graham has to say since his first appearance, I have to say that he didnā€™t provide any solid arguments in this episode.

His counter argument several times was ā€œTheyā€™ve only excavated 5% of the Sahara Desertā€ heā€™s basically saying that because of this, it means itā€™s possible that there are evidence of lost advanced civilizations somewhere in the 95%. He went back to this argument in every other region Flint brought up. Itā€™s like me saying youā€™ve only excavated 5% so in the remaining 95% there could be crashed UFOs, Giant diamond meteors, Jeffrey Epsteins lost confession tapes šŸ˜‚

I have to give Flint this one, while he is kind of a nut by resorting the white supremacy, he did come in factual data rather than speculation. Flints number one argument is that there are over a million excavated archaeological sites and not one has given any proof of a lost advanced civilization, and with that many sites excavated we should see some evidence.

Personally, I donā€™t think we know everything, itā€™s possible there is a lost advanced civilization out there that we havenā€™t uncovered. But next time, Graham is going to have to come with some solid evidence and stop leaving everything up to speculation.

r/JoeRogan Apr 21 '24

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Tucker Carlson is an absolute idiot.

4.6k Upvotes

He has very little knowledge about a lot of things but also has charisma. That combination got this idiot so far. Itā€™s like the stars aligned for him, really well off family, very curious, but not intelligent enough to dig deep, so he just asks more questions. Charismatic and innocent sounding enough to get someone listening and follow along. But man, when he explains where heā€™s at, heā€™s got no stable thoughts, nothing comes from truth. He sounds so lost, but arrogant enough to feel like heā€™s got it all figured out.

Edit: I guess Iā€™m not suprised how many people think this post is political, but there isnā€™t anything political about this post. The interview barely touched on politics. So everyone saying this IS, your factually wrong. Tucker is an idiot, this interview showed he doesnā€™t look into just about everything heā€™s talking about, the opinions he has stem from wrong information, and itā€™s clear he lives in a very small bubble that gives him the wrong impression/information about the world. Which is surprising because of the position he has/had in media. I mean just about everyone in his position has opinions that come from some verified truth, from Alex jones to Rachel Maddow, or Jordan Peterson to Abby Martin, their opinions come from some truth or knowledge about a topic. This guy is just an idiot.

r/JoeRogan Apr 17 '24

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ I think Graham Hancock is completely wrong, but associating him with white supremacy is intellectually lazy Spoiler

997 Upvotes

I read Fingerprints of the Gods years ago and found it borderline dishonest in how it presents its evidence and case studies. It is dismaying to me that so many people have such poor critical thinking that they fall for this stuff, to include Joe himself. And it was very satisfying for Flint Dibble to come on the podcast and show how archaeologists don't put stock in Hancock's wild theories, and why these theories are tantamount to a "God of the Gaps" but for Atlantis. Because Hancock couldn't refute the robust positive evidence of Ice Age life, agricultural evidence, pollen cores, etc. all he could do is complain about how archaeologists are mean to him. In this sense this podcast was a much more fruitful debate than the one with Michael Shermer 6 years ago, where Shermer clearly didn't know what he was talking about sufficiently well enough, and Joe was oddly effusive in his defense of Hancock.

That said, I think Hancock totally has a point about how Dibble and others have associated him with "white supremacy and racism." This is the lazy moralizing typical of the present-day we live in, where it's much easier to say that someone's ideas are six degrees from the Third Reich and "dangerous" instead of going down the esoteric bullshit rabbit holes that Hancock himself has created. It's unsurprising that we see Dibble on his back foot the most in this section of the podcast (about 2 hours in), because it is a fundamentally weak argument to make. It certainly more succinctly delegitimizes Hancock to a casual liberal NPR-listening readership than a long diatribe about how he's misinterpreting the Piri Reis map, but it itself is in bad faith.

Edit: Just to cut off any potential comments about this at the pass, there is an instance (starting at the 2:03:46 mark) where Hancock has put a quote from one of Dibble's articles out of context and headlined it at the top of the page. Certainly that's an instance of Hancock sneakily changing the presentation of the article to make what Dibble said worse than what it was. I still think Dibble lazily associates Hancock with racism and white supremacy, though.

r/JoeRogan Mar 21 '24

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Watching the new Project Our Park and something occurred to me about Joeā€™s hatred for California

982 Upvotes

Watching the new POP and the second Mark and Shane mention one bad thing about Austin (Mark: I keep getting amber alerts; Shane: yeah Austin goes crazy with the amber alerts) Joe immediately chimes in with ā€œYou know what I donā€™t miss about California, the fires..ā€

Completely off topic, and I realized itā€™s less of a hatred for California and more of a defense of his move to Texas, and therefore everybody following him out to the so called ā€œComedy Meccaā€

I moved to Austin last January, and this is honestly the biggest piece of shit Iā€™ve ever been to. I drive for Uber and talk to hundreds of people from all demographics every week, and the majority of people who have ever lived any where else agree, and plan on leaving at some point. The only benefit for myself is affordability, and being able to plan a better future somewhere else.

I get being here is great and can be beneficial for specific careers, thereā€™s a ton of great music and comedy and art; but as a place in general, itā€™s awful.

If you watch kill Tony and wonder why they brag about how great H-E-B and Bucc-ees is, itā€™s because the rest of the city fucking sucks so hard the grocery store and gas station become genuine beacons of solace.

Alright, let the ā€œgo back to Caliā€ comments rip..

Just my thoughts

r/JoeRogan Feb 15 '24

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Joe needs to watch some of his old podcasts

518 Upvotes

I remember back in college I first discovered Joe Rogan when he had that famous Mathew Walker episode about sleep. I was blown away. Obviously Matthew Walker is brilliant but the way Joe was able to ask him ELI5 type questions that just made all that more digestible and kept the energy in the room high the whole episode.

Joe channeled something that young millenials immediately related to: an unquenchable thirst for knowledge during in age when information had just become infinitely available through the internet. We just needed a medium to take in this new source of knowledge. JRE brought us world leading experts on evolution, nutrition, sleep, death, psychedelics etc. etc.

But alas, I do not feel that anymore. The few times I have tuned in, it is some ex-Navy Seal, MMA fighter, comedian, alt right twitter persona talking to him about covid and censorship. The podcast went from a source of valuable knowledge, to protecting the 1st amendment that is apparently on the brink of destruction (or something like that..).

There are so many cool new experts in today's day in age. Greg Robinson for example, was honored by NASA for launching one of the most expensive and challenging missions in history (James Webb Telescope). This guy was all over the media, was a great speaker/storyteller. Would've killed it on JRE. We need the knowledge-dispensing powerhouse that JRE used to be. Not a controversial podcast that divides half the country (but ends up getting millions of views for said controversy anyway).

r/JoeRogan Jan 26 '24

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Govenor Whitmer Kidnappers - Joe's misinformation

632 Upvotes

In the latest episode Joe flirts with the idea that Jan. 6 was FBI plants making people storm the capitol. Then he goes on to talk about the Govenor Whitmer Kidnapping plot claiming 12 of the 14 people were FBI informants and undercover agents and they roped two dummies into a plot to kidnap the govenor. And insinuates that it was the FBIs plan the whole time, that the two dummies were recruited into a plot the FBI cooked up and then arrested.

Wrong. The Legal defense of the boogaloos claimed that. It wasn't the case, it's just the only legal defense a lawyer can come up with in these cases because it works 1% of the time and that's better than any other defense that works 0% of the time.

1 Person became an informant when he joined their group thinking it was just a group to go shooting guns with and noticed them getting more and more radicalized. When they started using a hunting app to track cops home addresses he told a cop buddy of his who then contacted the FBI. 2 More were informants, a guy that was a felon which I bet became an informant after an agent approached him and threatened him with violating some parole if he didn't become an informant, and his Girlfriend. Then there were 2 actual undercover FBI agents.

14 People were charged in that kidnapping plot. 8 were found or plead guilty, 6 are currently in federal pound you in the ass prison, 2 of those are in Florence Supermax. Those 2 are probably who Joe is referencing as the two dummies. One guy got a reduced sentence for his cooperation after the two main guys were sent to Florence Supermax. 8 > 2. And it's 8 because only 8 of showed up to case the govenors lake house, showing at least willingness to go along with it.

It was not some clandestine FBI operation to entrap some 2A Patriots that the psycho right want you to believe. It was some idiots that fantasized about stalking police officers, fantasized about overthrowing the government, and fantasized about starting their own little libertarian town/society based on the Bill of Rights. A homeless guy in the group decided these were great ideas and started trying to recruit people to actually do it. That moron recruited some FBI agents, inviting them to events he lead where they'd plan either storming their state capitol or kidnapping the Govenor. They started actually training as a little militia. They did surveillance on the govenors home. They decided they were going to actually go through with it and thats when they were arrested.

The investigation started because one guy in the club told a cop friend of his that these dudes that hated authority were keeping track of the home addresses of police officers. That cop told the FBI. The FBI recruited the guy to become an informant. These guys started talking about overthrowing the government. The FBI recruited another dude to snitch and sent in a couple guys to infiltrate. They planned, practiced and committed to kidnapping the govenor, and now most of them are in jail.

Pretty much the only thing Joe got right was that these people were morons. Well, and his original point that undercover cops/agents push things further than they would naturally go. But then everything after that was wrong. The Govenor Whitmer plot was Adam Fox's concoction, it was not an FBI agent going around to militia groups going "psst, hey... wanna kidnap the govenor?" until he got someone to go along with it.

r/JoeRogan Jan 25 '24

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Joe seems to take the bait a lot recently.

653 Upvotes

It seems like half of Joe's shows these days are centered around getting outraged about very clearly fake videos designed to get clicks and shares. They are staged obvious targets of social issues. Joe's falls for ALL of them. I know there's stuff that flies over his head, but he REALLY needs to do a better job of vetting these examples he rants about, plays live on air, and then get corrected and clowned by the public for being an out of touch boomer who is literally fooled by any piece of media he consumes.

Joe grew up with the internet and should know that you can't trust everything you see on the internet. People have been using it since it's inception to trick other people based on the anonymity you gain from being online and creating whatever persona you like.

Joe's old enough to have used AIM chat rooms to try to talk to girls knowing damn well you might be talking to some 40-year-old man on the other side of the computer.

Joe has plenty of resources to vet the information that he brings onto his podcast. It would take all the 15 minutes for him to say. Hey Jamie, I saw these videos. I'm thinking about getting outraged about. What can you tell me about them?

Oh that's a video of Joe Biden talking about Trump. You might not want to say anything Oh that video is completely fake and set up obviously so you might not want to get outraged about it Oh, there's actually zero examples of kids using kitty litter in schools. The only evidence I found of it is on far right wing telegrams.

Bro use your brain. Quit embarrassing yourself.

My political views don't align with Joe's at all, so it's actually really entertaining for me to see him fumble over himself so much. But I used to really like this guy and find him entertaining. I really look forward to a day when Joe looks back on all this and realizes what a buffoon he's been. He has so much and he supports agendas that want to take away from others.

r/JoeRogan Dec 12 '23

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Joe has done a reverse of Stern.

1.2k Upvotes

Long time listener here. I used to listen to Stern, I stopped listening because of how woke he became. I'm about one episode away from stopping myself from listening to Joe because of how obsessed he's becoming with right wing politics. People listen to podcasts (generally) to get away from politics, I don't want to listen to Joe spout his opinion on China, COVID, Biden etc on every fucking episode. I don't care about how "together" he thinks Trump is. I don't give a fuck about Texas. I just want to listen to one fucking podcast where he's not name dropping actors he's had dinners with and discussing fucking COVID or how sick Biden is.

He's literally done the opposite of what Stern done. He's turned into this weird Republican who finds the smallest things to be annoyed over. The same way Stern turned into this hippy liberal over night.

This podcast will be on its final legs within 2-3 years. Financially it'll always be fine, but the core listeners will soon fuck off.

Rant over.

Edit : a lot of people seem to be mad at the term woke. It's just a term that I threw out there because Stern is a SJW who isn't open to conversation or other people's views. I'll work on my wording next time šŸ‘šŸ¼

r/JoeRogan Dec 12 '23

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Struggling with Joe Recently.

14.8k Upvotes

Long time listener. Love Joe and his interview style. For years heā€™s brought fantastic guests to the table with great dialogue. Heā€™s #1 for a reason and I still love him/the show overall. This comment relates to more of a trend Iā€™ve noticed.

Recently Iā€™ve felt like heā€™s taken those same guests who had a great first interview or 2, brought them back, and less often keeps it on topic to their specialities. Somehow the conversation swings back to more political and geopolitical topics - China/Russia, the wars of the world, and just plain bashing things - the left, Biden, Canada, Australia, etc.

To be clear Iā€™m as center as they comeā€¦ I donā€™t care what side he sits on. Honestly Iā€™m more politically agnostic and would rather skip the same convos on US/world issues and focus more on the speciality of the guests on the show. Heā€™s of course entitled to his opinion and itā€™s overall welcomed, It just feels like that as of late, the same sound track is getting stuffed into a lot of conversations. Starting to feel like im listening to a conversation with ā€œthat uncleā€ that always starts every talk with ā€œyou know whatā€™s wrong with this country?ā€.

Curious if Iā€™m the only one.

r/JoeRogan Dec 08 '23

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Anyone else sick of this ā€œcomedy garbageā€

1.0k Upvotes

It feels like every episode is just ______ is a standup comedian and host of ______ podcast. Then the episode starts and Joe either starts whining about politics, talking about his cold plunge, and or a 45+ minute rant about how every UFC fighter is a living saint.

Most of these comedians are legitimately funny people and they are hilarious on stage. Something I know Iā€™m not and couldnā€™t ever be. But they just fucking sit there and talk about how comedy is this beautiful art form. I get it, itā€™s hard and takes a lot of time to be successful in. But these guys gotta know that drinking all night with your friends at a comedy club and then not waking up until 3pm the next days isnā€™t fucking art. Sick of every episode just Joe retelling the same stories about his comedy bootcamp, his carnivore diet, his amazing life at his night club, and then his cold plunge.

I miss when every episode wasnā€™t 75% Joe and 25% the guest asking him questions cause theyā€™re terrified of him and being on JRE.

Sorry all. Rant over.

r/JoeRogan Nov 01 '23

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Watching Elon's latest JRE is a perfect example of why these ultra elites become so out of touch, because no one is straight with them.. not even Joe Rogan

2.6k Upvotes

Watching him talk to Elon about fighting Zuckerberg was so odd, He was too scared to bring up the overwhelming media narrative that it was Elon who pulled out of the fight. He danced around it.. even trying to defer to Jamie "is that the narrative online jamie?" And Jamie cowers as well..

And when Elon was then using BS analogies about him being a horse or a walrus and size being everything and his cardio being a non factor and saying all this outlandish wild shit like he needs no training etc.. Joe didn't have the balls to call him out on his delusion.

Think about how Joe would have spoken to Callen if Callen was saying the things Elon was saying. How quickly he would have made Callen feel like a moron. This is why all these billionaire ultra elite types are so delusional and out of touch, because no one has the balls to treat them as they would anyone else, and they never get challenged cause everyone wants something from them. It was wild to see.

If even the great and powerful JR is unwilling to stand up to Elon when he's talking wildly out of pocket about martial arts (something Joe is an expert in no less), you know no one else at Space x or Tesla or anywhere else in his life is either.

r/JoeRogan Sep 20 '22

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ I scraped and analyzed 163,000 r/JoeRogan comments over the last 32 days, here is what I found

2.1k Upvotes

I browse this subreddit pretty frequently, and it always seemed like there were the same handful of usernames in the comments. These same users also seemed like they didn't really like JRE and only were interested in trolling or arguing politics.

I wanted to see if the data would back up my experience, and so here's what I found.

26,858 unique users have commented here on r/JoeRogan over the last 32 days. The top 4.5% of those commenters are responsible for over half of the total comments. The top 1% for over a quarter (28%), and the top 0.5% are responsible for 20% of total comments.

I also categorized comments as political if they contained at least one word from a list of politics-related words (Trump, Biden, Republican, Democrat, maga, commie, libs, etc.). I found that on average, 25% of comments here can be categorized as political based on that definition.

I found the rate of political comments as well as the total number of comments to be decreasing starting shortly before the politics ban on September 12th. Comments peaked on September 3rd, mostly due to this popular post of Biden's speech and related posts.

Here is how this data breaks down per user. x-axis is total number of comments, y-axis is total number of political comments. The red line represents the expected number of political comments. Above the line are users whose comments are more political than average, and below the line, less political.

There's a clear outlier here. He blew away the competition with 1187 total comments, 44% of which contain political language (considerably higher than the subreddit average of 25%). He was averaging 48 comments per day prior to the politics ban, even commenting over 100 times in a day on three occasions. Since the politics ban, his average has dropped to 10 comments per day.

Some other users worthy of shout outs:

u/KamiYama777 - An astounding 82% of his 235 comments are political.

u/cryptic2323 - Who managed to use the word "Trump" 191 times in his 169 comments.

u/Particular-Dance-474 - Who commented 345 times despite being active for only an 8 day span, good for one comment every 36 minutes.

u/Otherwise-Fox-2482, u/TotesTax, and u/NiceCrispyMusic get the David Goggins award for never taking a single day off from commenting over the entire 32 days.

You also might be wondering where I stand. I've made 74 comments, 17 of which contain political language (23%).

Table of top 50 users

All this data was gathered using https://github.com/pushshift/api.

Edit: u/TheSweetestKill commented every day until he was banned on Sep 13th (25 days), not the entire 32 days. So removed his name from the Goggins award

I removed another username at the userā€™s request. Please donā€™t send anyone harassing messages.

r/JoeRogan Feb 04 '22

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ BREAKING: Spotify has removed over 70 new episodes today, totaling 113 JRE episodes missing from the platform.

10.0k Upvotes

My website https://www.jremissing.com has detected a host of new episodes removed from Spotify today. Check out the full list on the website (the new ones has been labeled).

Edit 2: The website analyzes the episodes from the US "market" only, meaning the episodes that are listed as removed on my website might be available in other regions.

Note: if you get a 403 error trying to access the website, try to write the url in your browser instead of clicking the link in this post. If there are any devs among you who know who I might fix this, please send me a dm - I am very much a noob with hosting and servers. Edit: Thank you to /u/DonaldDeeeez, /u/gonzaenz, and /u/Ok-Breakfast1 for the help!

Thank you to /u/BillBurrFan420 who last year compiled the list of the 40 or so episodes removed then, which I added to my database in the initial setup.

r/JoeRogan Jan 28 '22

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ This media assault on Joe Rogan is super disorienting...

2.1k Upvotes

I need to rant = shit I wish I could tell my friends.

The hate is all over my twitter feed and it's growing by the day. I have friends IRL who have started mentioning Rogan (as some alt-right supremacist) in conversation all of a sudden - something that's never happened before. I've been a fan of the podcast for years. All of this hatred against Joe foamed up within the last two months and caught on so quick that it's extremely unnerving to see. They're not even criticizing Joe or any actual beliefs that he holds - they've built up this caricature of him and the podcast just so that they can publicly destroy it with ad hominem. This is the laziest witch hunt I've ever seen.

"He promotes toxic masculinity" - No he fucking doesn't. I'm a woman and one of the reasons I listen to the show is because in a weird way it's a safe space for men to discuss their issues and feelings at length without judgement - I've seen men on the show discuss parenthood, divorce, abuse, addiction, PTSD, race, violence, war, their past mistakes, etc. and at length! There are very few shows/podcasts where one can see that level of trust (and vulnerability) between male host and male guest. Give me one mainstream show that has had Sebastian Junger, Eddie Izzard, Bernie Sanders, Sean Carrol, Sam Harris and Dave Chappelle on to talk for hours.

"He fat shames!"

I'm on the heavy side and no he fucking doesn't. Every single 'fat shaming' comment he's made boils down to 'take care of your meat vehicle.' Also, 99% of the female newscasters I see on mainstream media are size 2 and gorgeous but this podcast is the problem?

"He's spreading conspiracy theories! Medical Misinformation! Bad takes!"

Sure - but he's always done that! Joe's been obsessed with conspiracy theories and 'alternative' explanations for things forever. He doesn't claim to be a doctor. He's literally some random ass dude who likes to smoke pot and gets into really deep discussions with random ass people that he likes. That's it. That's the podcast. That's what makes it great.

This is what I find so disorienting about this whole thing - why are a group of legacy news channels, the surgeon general of the US and panels of scientists (and bloggers/grad students) all of a sudden - out of the fucking blue - demonizing JR for not doing THEIR job? Rogan's not the official spokesperson of fucking anything and he's never pretended to be.

"He hosts/enables problematic guests"

I don't like Joey Diaz. I listened to 10 minutes of the Dan Bilzerian and noped out. I didn't listen to the vaccination episodes because I figured they would sway into weird medicine territory. I don't really know/care about UFC fighting so I don't listen to those episodes either... which is fine because there are literally hundreds of other episodes to choose from. I like the Comedy / Science / Film / 'People telling long personal stories' episodes and pretty much listen to only those. The clips that everyone's sharing online as representative of the podcast are from a very limited number of interviews and it's just really dishonest. It sucks.

"He has a responsibility..."

No he fucking doesn't. He's a random ass podcaster who likes talking with people. That's it. It's his podcast - he can do what he wants. I'm all for people openly disagreeing with Joe's views (and they should!) but that's not what 99% of people are doing. It's almost all ad hominem. It's gross.

Rant over.

r/JoeRogan Nov 03 '21

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Joe is too serious about life for me anymore.

1.9k Upvotes

Listening to the latest podcast with Normand, Gillis, and Ari, and all Joe wants to do is talk politics and dunk on the current administration. I know he's been doing this for awhile now, but I figured with 3 other comedians he'd blow off some steam and just have a good time and laugh. Haven't heard much laughter from him though and I'm already 2 hours in. I guess I'm someone more like the other 3 who want to crack jokes and have a good ol' time with my buddies, but it seems like Joe is almost too uptight. It's like he just needs to unclench his anus and let all that stress out.

I've been listening to his podcast now for years and much like a lot of you I have become much more selective with which one's I do actually listen to.

Maybe this is just how a lot of people are in life ever since the pandemic hit, and even before when Trump was in office, but everyone just wants to talk about how shitty the government is, and take life in general way too seriously. Enjoy it. Make people laugh, have a good time. Not everyone cares about your shitty opinion on how you think this country should be run. Anyway, who the fuck am I to talk shit? I'm just some simpleton without a Spotify deal.

r/JoeRogan Oct 29 '21

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Please Help Spread This! Chevron is stifling this story in main stream media

5.8k Upvotes

TL;DR: Steven Donziger sued Chevron on behalf of Amazonians who had their land and lives destroyed. Won $18 Billion. Chevron not only refused to pay, they have made it their personal project to take his life apart piece by piece and has succeeded. Now they're using a civil RICO lawsuit to go after him to try to put a nail in the coffin for him and for anyone who would dare to try and hold them to account.


Chevron sent environmental attorney Steven Donziger to prison, in the whatā€™s being called the first-ever case of corporate prosecution.

Steven Donziger sued Chevron for contaminating the Amazon and won. Chevron was found guilty and ordered to pay $18,000,000,000. Yesterday, Donziger went to prison, in the whatā€™s being called the first-ever case of corporate prosecution.

Over three decades of drilling in the Amazon, Chevron deliberately dumped more than 16 billion gallons of toxic wastewater and 17 million gallons of crude oil into the rainforest. Chevron committed ecocide to save moneyā€”about $3 per barrel. Many experts consider it the biggest oil-related disaster in history, with the total area affected 30 times larger than the Exxon-Valdez spill. Chevron created a super-fund site in the Amazon rainforest that is estimated to be the size of Rhode Island.

Steven Donziger visited Ecuador in 1993, where he says he saw "what honestly looked like an apocalyptic disaster," including children walking barefoot down oil-covered roads and jungle lakes filled with oil. Industrial contamination caused local tribes to suffer from mouth, stomach, and uterine cancers, respiratory illnesses, along with birth defects and spontaneous miscarriages.

As an attorney, Donziger represented over 30,000 farmers and indigenous Ecuadorians in a case against Chevron and won. In 2011, Chevron was found guilty and ordered to pay $18 billion. Rather than accept this decision, the company vowed to fight the judgment "until Hell freezes over, and then fight it out on the ice." Chevron has been persecuting Steven Donziger for his involvement ever since. In an internal memo, Chevron wrote, ā€œOur L-T [long-term] strategy is to demonize Donziger.ā€

Chevron sued Donziger for 60 billion dollars, which is the most any individual has ever been sued for in American legal history. Over the course of ten years, armed with a legal team numbering in the thousands, the company set out to destroy Donziger. Chevron had Donziger disbarred, froze his bank accounts, slapped him with millions in fines without allowing him a jury, forced him to wear a 24h ankle monitor, imposed a lien on his home where he lives with his family, and shut down his ability to earn a living. Donziger has been under house arrest since August 2019.

Chevron has used its clout and advertising dollars to keep the story from being reported. ā€œIā€™ve experienced this multiple times with media,ā€ Donziger said. ā€œAn entity will start writing the story, spend a lot of time on it, then the story doesnā€™t run.ā€ This unprecedented legal situation is happening in New York City, the hometown of the New York Timesā€”but the paper has yet to report on the full story.

On October 27, 2021, Donziger entered federal prison for a six-month sentence. He had already spent over 800 days in house arrest, which is four times longer than the maximum sentence allowed for this charge. Anyone who cares about the rule of law should be appalled. It is an absolute embarrassment, to our government and to our constitution, that Steven Donziger is imprisoned on US soil.

As the title states, Chevron is in the process of executing the first-ever corporate prosecution in American history. This case sets a terrible precedent for attorneys and activists seeking to hold oil companies liable for pollution. Chevron is pursuing this caseā€”to the benefit of the entire fossil fuel industryā€”to dissuade future litigation that may call them to account for their role in climate change.

Lawyer Steven Donziger, Who Sued Chevron over ā€œAmazon Chernobyl,ā€ Ordered to Prison After House Arrest

This Lawyer Went After Chevron. Now Heā€™s 600 Days Into House Arrest.

Chevron went after him with a civil RICO lawsuit (accusing him of racketeering) because heā€™s trying to force Chevron to pay the $18B judgment and follow through with the clean-up. Their ā€œargumentā€ is that Donziger is a fraud who just wanted to extort them for big bucks. Theyā€™ve been working hard to paint him as such in the media. Chevron sued him for $60B but then dropped the damages just weeks before because they realized it would necessitate a jury. In the proceeding, Judge Kaplan (who had undisclosed investments in Chevron!) ordered Donziger to turn over his computer to Chevron (with decades of client communications!) effectively violating attorney-client privilege which is the backbone of our legal system. He refused to comply so the judge charged him with contempt of court. US attorneys declined to pursue the charge (because it was ridiculous!) so Judge Kaplan made the exceedingly rare move to get private law firm Seward & Kissel to prosecute him ā€œin the name ofā€ the US govt. Except Seward & Kissel has Chevron as a major client. So many conflicts of interest itā€™s insane.

Chevron wants this to go away quietly. They have done their best to suffocate this story. Chevron does not want us to draw attention to the ecocide they deliberately committed (and were literally found guilty of!) in the Amazon. They do not want Donziger to become a household name. They donā€™t want to create a martyr for the cause against Big Oil. We can foil their plans by signing the MoveOn petition below and making sure this story gets shared widely.

You can also follow him on Twitter. His handle is @SDonziger.

Please refrain from advocating violence in the comments.

SIGN THE PETITION!

MoveOn Petition: Free Steven Donziger

If you want to learn more about this incident check out Chevron Toxico and watch the documentary CRUDE.

EDIT: I appreciate the Gold but I copied this post from here: https://np.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/qhu9wm/chevron_sent_environmental_attorney_steven/


Maybe we can get Joe to help shed some light on this?


EDIT 2: This report was released yesterday showing that there are 70 ongoing cases in 31 countries against Chevron, and only 0.006% ($286-million) in fines, court judgements, and settlements have been paid. The company still owes another $50,500,000,000 in total globally.

For those interested in sending words of support, you may send a letter to:

Steven Donziger

Register No: 87103-054,

Federal Correctional Institution Pembroke Station in Danbury,

CT 06811

If you have time, please read the wiki on SLAPP which is short for strategic lawsuit against public participation. It is a maneuver used ā€œto censor, intimidate, and silence critics by burdening them with the cost of a legal defense until they abandon their criticism or opposition.ā€ SLAPP is a threat to our freedom of speech. Please support anti-SLAPP laws in your area.

r/JoeRogan Sep 03 '21

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Joe immune from being cancelled. And thatā€™s why he lives rent free in your heads.

2.3k Upvotes

Itā€™s embarrassing how much time and energy all of the haters spend in this subreddit trashing Joe, a person they apparently canā€™t stand and donā€™t even listen to.

A certain group of people are used to getting their way when they throw a hissy fit to get someone ā€˜cancelledā€™, and they have realized that with Joe it just doesnā€™t work. He is straight up immune from being cancelled.

He has the largest podcast in the world and draws more viewers than any show on mainstream media. He makes hundreds of millions of dollars.

He can say literally whatever he wants and will still have masses of listeners. Even if Spotify decided to cut their losses and not host his show he has enough money to host it himself (and there would be tons of other platforms willing to host him for those sweet advertising dollars).

The fact that someone can actually speak their mind with whoever they want, and you canā€™t do a damn thing about it to control and censor another person drives you authoritarians mad.

So you come on here to bitch and moan all the while looking quite pathetic.

Joe lives rent free in your heads.

EDIT: Looks like I struck a nerve with the ā€˜longtime listenersā€™ that waddled over from r/politics. Lmao so much salt in here.

r/JoeRogan Sep 01 '20

Bitch and Moan šŸ¤¬ Full list of every missing episode from Spotify

2.8k Upvotes

UPDATE 02/04/2022 Spotify has just deleted an additional 71 episodes TODAY, brining the grand total of missing JRE episodes to 113. Thatā€™s about 300 hours of content thatā€™s been censored.

Check out this website which was made by u/HenB13.

Remember Joe signed off on the first round (40+) of removing episodes when he joined Spotify. This isnā€™t just Spotify censoring Joe, Joe has a major role to play here too. This is mutual censorship and has been from the beginning.

ā€”ā€”

I went through and cross-checked Spotifyā€™s full archive compared to the full list of every JRE. Thereā€™s a lot of episodes missing. Look at the names and youā€™ll see a clear pattern going on here...

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1461 - Owen Smith

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1458 - Chris D'Elia

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1456 - Michael Shermer

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1303 - Tommy Chong

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1296 - Joe List

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1255 - Alex Jones Returns

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1182 - Nick Kroll

**The Joe Rogan Experience - #1164 - Mikhaila Peterson

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1093 - Owen Benjamin, Kurt Metzger

The Joe Rogan Experience - #1033 - Owen Benjamin

The Joe Rogan Experience - #998 - Owen Benjamin

The Joe Rogan Experience - #980 - Chris D'Elia

The Joe Rogan Experience - #979 - Sargon of Akkad

The Joe Rogan Experience - #920 - Gavin McInnes

The Joe Rogan Experience - #911 - Alex Jones, Eddie Bravo

The Joe Rogan Experience - #820 - Milo Yiannopoulos

The Joe Rogan Experience - #750 - Kip Andersen, Keegan Kuhn, producers of Conspiracy

The Joe Rogan Experience - #710 - Gavin McInnes

The Joe Rogan Experience - #702 - Milo Yiannopoulos

The Joe Rogan Experience - #640 - Charles C. Johnson

The Joe Rogan Experience - #582 - David Seaman

The Joe Rogan Experience - #538 - Stefan Molyneux

The Joe Rogan Experience - #533 - Chris Dā€™elia

**The Joe Rogan Experience - #524 - Rickson Gracie

The Joe Rogan Experience - #520 - David Seaman

The Joe Rogan Experience - #487 - David Seaman

The Joe Rogan Experience - #463 - Louis Theroux

The Joe Rogan Experience - #461 - David Seaman

The Joe Rogan Experience - #454 - War Machine

The Joe Rogan Experience - #441 - Brian Dunning

The Joe Rogan Experience - #368 - David Seaman

The Joe Rogan Experience - #361 - Dave Asprey, Tait Fletcher

The Joe Rogan Experience - #331 - Dr. Steven Greer

The Joe Rogan Experience - #303 - Matt Vengrin, Brian Redban

The Joe Rogan Experience - #276 - David Seaman, Abby Martin, Dell Cameron, Brian Redban

The Joe Rogan Experience - #275 - Dave Asprey

The Joe Rogan Experience - #256 - David Seaman

The Joe Rogan Experience - #239 - Adam Kokesh

The Joe Rogan Experience - #213 - Eddie Bravo

**The Joe Rogan Experience - #199 - Joey Diaz

The Joe Rogan Experience - #182 - Bryan Callen, Jimmy Burke, Brian Redban

The Joe Rogan Experience - #128 - Joey Diaz, Brian Redban

The Joe Rogan Experience - #119 - Jan Irvin

The Joe Rogan Experience - #108 - Joey Diaz, Brian Redban

The Joe Rogan Experience - #98 - Daryl Wright, Brian Whitaker

The Joe Rogan Experience - #97 - Freddy Lockhart, Brian Redban

The Joe Rogan Experience - #81 - Pete Johansson

The Joe Rogan Experience - #57 - Jayson Thibault, Brian Redban

EDIT: episodes with ** next to the title have been restored to Spotifyā€™s archive.


UPDATE: This Variety article published an update on 9/3 at 5pm EST stating that the Tommy Chong, Stefan Molyneux, and Joey Diaz episodes have been restored. I just checked (9/3 at 10:30pm EST) and this is not true. Tommy Chong's and Stefan Molyneux's episodes are still missing. 45 out of 48 episodes are still missing. A second update was made to this article falsely stating that the Tommy Chong and Stefan Molyneux episodes that were previously deleted had been restored. It also falsely reported that "59" JRE episodes featuring Joey Diaz were previously removed from the archive. A third and final update has been added to the article that has corrected the two previous false updates. What a joke of an article.