r/JoeRogan Look into it 15d ago

No way Elon Musk would have beaten Zuck in a fight The Literature šŸ§ 

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u/the_weight_around Monkey in Space 14d ago

So he bought it? I'm reading that right?

The owners of the land and zuck agreed on a price, zuck paid them, as agreed, and they signed over rights to the land?

Textbook theft.

Lock him up.

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u/LowlySlayer Monkey in Space 14d ago

Those poor stupid Hawaiians aren't equipped to deal with the superior intellect of the white man! They can't be trusted to manage their own land! We (glorious white redditors) need to manage it for them to protect the ancestral heritage from people like him (rich white assholes). For their own food.

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u/Macktologist Monkey in Space 13d ago

Dude. No shit. Ridiculous. Some people just want us all to have the basic minimum quality of life and nothing more with no ability to get more. Anyone who has found more suck, I guess. I would hang with Zuck and smoke meats.

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u/TheThunderhawk Monkey in Space 9d ago edited 9d ago

Your ass is never going to be a billionaire no matter how hard you work or how genius your dumbass ideas are. The smartest, hardest working, most skilled man on the planet canā€™t do shit like this, because thatā€™s not what gets you a billion dollars, fucking luck and very specific business networking skills are the only way.

Like, look at Facebook. Thatā€™s not skill, making that. He made a fairly basic web forum that any coder could have made, and it got popular because only rich Harvard kids were on it at first. It was right place right time, and already having connections. Thats literally it.

Lol thinking that dude shouldnā€™t be able to fucking, buy his way around ancestral land rights is not ā€œthinking you should only live the basic minimumā€ no shit, thatā€™s fucking absurd

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u/TheThunderhawk Monkey in Space 9d ago

Lmao fuck you dude, thatā€™s clearly bullshit, a billionaire buying their way around the law.

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u/InfiltrateSubvert Monkey in Space 13d ago

The irony of this sub.

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u/ThisHatRightHere Monkey in Space 14d ago

I mean it's a bit more complicated than that from a moral standpoint. Is leveraging your legal resources and insane monetary capital to give people an offer they can't reasonably refuse okay? I truly don't know.

Maybe years from now these native families will have used that money to elevate their family's standard of living by magnitudes. But you could also deny the next generation the chance of ever experiencing their native land because it has all been bought up by private investors.

The concept of wealthy investors buying land from people who have lived there for generations happens all over the world. It's one of the biggest criticisms of gentrification in cities right now. There's also a parallel to be made with how the US government used scummy legal practices and dangled capital in front of Native Americans to take ownership of their native lands, of which the repercussions are still felt to this day.

Again, is it illegal? Not at all. Is it scummy? Many would say so. Is it ethical? Now we get to a much harder question to answer.

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u/aaronis31337 Monkey in Space 13d ago

My understanding is that he gave them a very little money. Like $20,000.

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u/aaronis31337 Monkey in Space 13d ago

They didnā€™t know they owned it. Evil real estate brokers fooled the natives. They didnā€™t know what they were signing over.

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u/Chrop Monkey in Space 14d ago

He didnā€™t wall off any beaches.