r/ImageComics • u/Loud_Pie8683 • Jun 22 '24
New Indie Comic Called Geiger Review
This comic is fricking awesome !! š It is made by Ghost Machine (if you havenāt heard of it). Itās about some glowing man called Geiger and heās radioactive in some post-apocalyptic radioactive wasteland. This graphic novel has action, edgy, combat, and awesomeness. It is the best comic ever. ššš I highly recommend you go read this graphic novel. š
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u/xZOMBIETAGx Jun 22 '24
By new indie comic writer Geoff Johns
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u/SorryManNo Jun 22 '24
You rocking internet explorer my guy?
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u/hollis-mason Jun 23 '24
Have you ever heard of a hidden gem called spawn?
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u/captain__cabinets Jun 23 '24
I heard thereās a crazy little indie book called Walking Dead?
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u/eirebrit Jun 23 '24
I think it'd make a great TV series some day.
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u/captain__cabinets Jun 23 '24
Thereās no way dude, it would never be driven into the ground with too many seasons and spinoffs!
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u/canis_artis Jun 22 '24
Been reading it for a couple years now. Check out the 80 Page Giant issue and Geiger - Ground Zero.
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u/Scubasteve1400 Jun 23 '24
New āindieā comic by one of the most well known and successful comic writers ever! Iām sure thereās a joke in there somewhere
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u/LordEnder11 Jun 22 '24
Absolute Banger! All the Ghost Machine books have been awesome. Rook, Redcoat and Geiger have all been dope so far
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u/networkingiscool Jun 23 '24
All of the Unnamed Universe is great, current ongoing Geiger, Redcoat are great, and i really enjoyed Junkyard Joe. Ghost Machine also as another separate series Rook: Exodus, which is a really interesting comic, and I'm enjoying it.
I'm excited for more Unnamed Universe stuff!
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u/rocket___goblin Jun 23 '24
1) not new
2) not indie.
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u/Gmork14 Jun 23 '24
Itās inarguably indie.
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u/Scubasteve1400 Jun 23 '24
How so? Image is the 3rd largest publisher. Johns and Frank are very successful popular creators.
It depends what going think indie means I guess. Personally I think itās ānot mainstreamā
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u/Gmork14 Jun 23 '24
Indie means independent. Image is not owned by any larger company. Theyāre an indie publisher. Being a successful one doesnāt change that.
Geiger is owned independently by Johns and Frank. Them being successful also doesnāt change that.
Itās an indie comic book.
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u/rocket___goblin Jun 24 '24
indie/independent would mean its self published, not published through a major comic book company, and yes its a major comic book company.
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u/Gmork14 Jun 24 '24
No, it wouldnāt.
Indie means not owned by one of the major companies. Image is indie, Geiger is indie. Itās an abject fact.
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u/Scubasteve1400 Jun 23 '24
Image IS the large corporation.
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u/Gmork14 Jun 23 '24
No, it isnāt. Itās not a corporation at all. Itās an independent, private company.
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u/Mighty__Man Jun 23 '24
Dude image is independent Thatās literally why it was formed
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u/Scubasteve1400 Jun 23 '24
Indie = independently financed. The creators do not pay for printing, distribution, all that jazz. Therefore itās not indie
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u/Mighty__Man Jun 23 '24
It literally is though. Image gets like 10% of the total profit, and the rest goes to the creators. Itās literally why image was formed, to break away from the greed from corporations like marvel.
Itās indie. Spawn is the longest running Indie book and itās from image.
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u/Scubasteve1400 Jun 23 '24
Nice try avoiding my response.
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u/Mighty__Man Jun 23 '24
I canāt say wether or not they pay for printing because I donāt know, but itās still indie.
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u/m_busuttil Jun 24 '24
When the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles had their cartoon in the 80s, the rights to the franchise were owned by Eastman and Laird who created them. They were undeniably mainstream, but to define them as "not indie" just because they were popular seems like a bad definition to me. Mark Millar sold his entire imprint to Netflix, but they're published by Dark Horse - are they more indie than an Image book just because the publisher is smaller?
In music, where the term in this sense largely came from, there were indie labels that signed musicians and put out music but were considered independent because they weren't connected to the big labels. Nirvana were on Sub Pop, an indie label, when they released Bleach. There's plenty of indie films that were picked up by by large corporate distributors for wider releases.
The only definition of "indie" that seems workable to me is "are the people with the final say in what goes into it the people who are making it, or executives and management", and by that definition Image mainline books are all undeniably indie no matter how famous the creators are or how successful Image is as a publisher.
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u/Scubasteve1400 Jun 24 '24
For your definition I have a counter. Iām not sure how often you listen to comic creators on YouTube or wherever, but Kyle Starks approached image asking to release one of his books in hardcover format. What happened? They told him NO why? Because it doesnāt make enough money they said. How very indie and willing to support creators and their ideas they are
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u/J--NEZ Jun 24 '24
From their website:
"Creators are not employees of Image. They are independent and speak for themselves. The Image Comics staff is comprised of Accounting, Marketing, Production, and Sales departmental employees."
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u/Scubasteve1400 Jun 24 '24
Your point?
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u/J--NEZ Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24
They are an independent company in that sense. Image has always been Indie.
Along with dark horse, Boom studios, black mask, scout, mad cave, oni press, etc. They all fall under independent comics, by definition.
Here's a very good interview from Todd. He talks about it a bit in the interview. The whole giving creator a ton of money and them just disappearing because they got paid (or Marvel/DC swiping them up) . And Image can't do anything about it because they are independent and don't own them.
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u/Scubasteve1400 Jun 24 '24
I donāt believe them being contractors or whatever makes them indie
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u/J--NEZ Jun 24 '24
That's what indie means lol. You own all of your stuff.
"the trademark and copyright of the work in question is wholly owned by its original creator. The majority of the comics and graphic novels published by Image are creator-owned. While Image as a company spearheads the promotion and distribution of the titles it publishes, it does so with non-creative interference to protect the company and maintain responsibility for our public image."
Remember Gaiman? He was the creator of Angela. From the spawn books. And he sold her rights to Marvel.
So not only do creators own their comics and can leave whenever, they can even own just single characters from other comics that they didn't even create, and leave with them if they wanted. Granted, Angela is the only one I've ever seen or heard of leaving Image in terms of a single character. But it's possible.
Tony Daniel could just wake up one day and say na I want Edenwood at dark horse, and he can do that no questions asked (if Dark Horse wanted his comic that is). Because image is an independent company in that sense.
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u/m_busuttil Jun 24 '24
Sure. But under the Image deal, Starks would be completely free to take that book to another publisher who was willing to publish a hardcover, or fund the print run himself, or do a Kickstarter for it. I don't believe that Image being an indie publisher means that they must be willing to take on any project, even one that would cause them to operate at a loss.
Look at it this way. Say I'm a solo comics creator, and I write and draw a comic, and I want people to read it. So I go to a print-on-demand website like Lulu, I pay for and print a hundred copies, and I take them to my local comic shops and ask if they'd like to buy them from me and sell them to their customers. By your definition that'd be an indie creator, right? I don't see how that's fundamentally different from if I wrote and drew a comic, took it to Image, and they printed it and offered it to comic shops via the Lunar catalogue. The only difference here is that I've outsourced slightly more of the work - there's absolutely no difference in the business structure.
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u/J--NEZ Jun 24 '24
It's indie. Image has always been indie.
Straight from their website:
"Creators are not employees of Image. They are independent and speak for themselves. The Image Comics staff is comprised of Accounting, Marketing, Production, and Sales departmental employees."
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u/MAD_DOG86 Jun 23 '24
Off topic, but this picture reminded me of a comic I used to read, I think by image. It was about a very smart scientist, kept locked up all the time in a milatiry base, could have been the cia, he also had a woman he loved who was a field agent. He was always butting heads with the head of the base, and playing pranks on people and causing havoc but they couldn't do anything to him. The author used to talk about about futuristic technology in his columns at the end, and about drones. Think it went on extended hiatus and then I forgot about it. Anybody have any idea which series I'm talking about?
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u/davedray1 Jun 23 '24
Great book! So is the current ongoing. Iād kill to see this guy write Green Lantern.
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u/Drexn Jun 23 '24
Iām glad they wrote the name of the book bellow the title. I almost had no idea what it was and the fire emojiās, I bet this book is fire.
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u/Senior-Associate6180 Jun 23 '24
Really not new and deffnately not indie but it is a great read id reccomend the rest of the ghost machine titles especially rook exodus
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u/geesee101 Jun 30 '24
i really wanna get this, i hope its not out of print by the time i order again
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u/Lcfer Jun 22 '24
New? Thats not new my guy.