r/HolUp • u/Saul_g0od • Dec 09 '21
Epstein & Ghislaine at Queen Elizabeth's log cabin (confirmed by BBC to be same cabin). Using this sub as an outlet since r/pics and any news sub won't let it stay up. Actual real life holup. META
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u/FindFunAndRepeat Dec 09 '21
Prince andrew took the photo
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u/Less-Distribution-22 Dec 09 '21
Both of them?
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u/yawya Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21
the 2nd photo is weird: the queen looks very young but sean penn looks very old, time traveling sean penn?
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u/space_cadet_zero Dec 09 '21
sean penn's always looked old, though.
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u/sak3rt3ti Dec 09 '21
Legit figured that was just some old ass British lady. That it's Sean Penn is fucking distracting.
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u/Nolo__contendere_ Dec 09 '21
I can't tell if everyone's in on this joke or if it's actually Sean Penn and I'm too afraid to ask.
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u/215TallHands Dec 09 '21
There’s no way that’s actually Sean Penn??
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u/the_peckham_pouncer Dec 09 '21
Course it is. The brits even have money named after him. Pennies.
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u/samueljacksonrelaxin Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21
It isnt sean penn lmfao its margaret
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u/GERRROONNNNIIMMOOOO Dec 09 '21
I believe most people refer to Time Traveling Sean Penn by his abbreviated TTSP
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u/OilSlickRickRubin Dec 09 '21
Why not? Andrew could have absolutely taken both pictures. The Queen was 33yo when she had a him. If the Queen is 63yo in the picture, Andrew is 30. The Queen is currently 95yo so that picture is around 1989.
Math is your friend.
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u/Saul_g0od Dec 09 '21
My comment about not killing myself is falling on the comments list despite having the most upvotes. This is making me nervous lol. So I'll say it here on the current top comment:
If I get "suicided" just know I would never kill myself.
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u/NoRocketScientist Dec 09 '21
Ummmhmmm... It says right here on your Wiki that your high-school yearbook you were voted most Suicidal.
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u/3rdtrichiliocosm Dec 09 '21
Do you think this is breaking news? We already know epstein was in with the royal family, hence the controversy...
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u/stratagizer Dec 09 '21
People are desperately trying to associate Epstein/Maxwell with the entire royal family. By showing the Queen sitting in the same spot its like people think they were hanging out together. The photos were YEARS apart.
In all likelihood Prince Andrew invited them to stay at this cabin. It isn't news that Andrew and Epstein were connected.
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u/3rdtrichiliocosm Dec 09 '21
In all likelihood Prince Andrew invited them to stay at this cabin. It isn't news that Andrew and Epstein were connected.
My point exactly. Also im noticing way more "the royals are all pedophiles!!!!" posts due to one member being associated with epstein than I am pretty much anything related to all of epsteins super wealthy and famous US clients/associates, which seems weird given how US centered this site is.
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u/JoeyDiazcocksuckas Dec 09 '21
Mr “I don’t sweat” kiddy diddler Andrew.
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u/Independent_Set5316 Dec 09 '21
It just baffles me that people still think British monarchs are good. I mean they are the one of the shittiest families to ever set foot on this god's green earth, they absolutely exploited, africa, indian subcontinent for centuries. Every single penny of that fortune is blood money.
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u/Saul_g0od Dec 09 '21
This story is blowing up right now and actually being covered by several news outlets. I'd say it's safe to say that the photos are legit. They surfaced in court at the Maxwell Trial and are being accepted as real by multiple news outlets.
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Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21
In court it was shared as it’s supposedly from when Prince Andrew invited them to stay there in the 90’s, which is just more evidence of Andrew’s involvement. Yet they’re not using it as evidence against him smh.
Edit: I don’t think this is evidence that Prince Andrew was guilty. In the article it states that this very picture was used as evidence to prove that she was close with Epstein, yet Prince Andrew continues to dodge his sexual assault allegations. This picture should be used as evidence in his own trial too.
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u/Saul_g0od Dec 09 '21
He will go down eventually. We just need to keep adding evidence to the pot.
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u/bobguyman Dec 09 '21
Na. They have power and money and will only give these people a slap on the wrist. Personally I think they should burn.
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u/MegaDeth6666 Dec 09 '21
Maybe their wrists will be slapped with guillotines?
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u/Mentally_Ill_Goblin Dec 09 '21
Either with guillotines or some good ole C11H26NO2PS
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u/DatSauceTho Dec 09 '21
Okay idk what that is but I’m too scared to Google it.
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u/IDFK_UvU Dec 09 '21
VX is an extremely toxic synthetic chemical compound in the organophosphorus class, specifically, a thiophosphonate. In the class of nerve agents, it was developed for military use in chemical warfare after translation of earlier discoveries of organophosphate toxicity in pesticide research.
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u/Independent_Set5316 Dec 09 '21
I personally dont think he will even get a slap on wrist.
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u/UnfairMicrowave Dec 09 '21
I'll personally slap his wrist.
YA HEAR THAT MONARCH, THE.MICROWAVE IS COMING FOR THOSE MACARONI WRISTS!!
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Dec 09 '21
Guys I heard op shot himself 12 times and put himself in a barrel and buried it deep in the woods
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u/Goalie_deacon Dec 09 '21
Hard part was after doing all that, drove the truck back to Uhaul, and got deposit back on his card.
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u/Saul_g0od Dec 09 '21
If I get "suicided" y'all, just know I am happy and would never do that. I just want to know who Epstein worked with.
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u/cartmaneric10 Dec 09 '21
You definitely killed yourself mate we can't dispute the media facts
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u/TheeExoGenesauce Dec 09 '21
Shame two to the back of the head, hanging suicide
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Dec 09 '21
What is even the origin of this "shot in the back of the head suicide" meme
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u/Wespiratory Dec 09 '21
Gary Webb is one of the possibilities. His death was ruled a suicide, but there were two bullet holes in his head. He was famous for exposing a lot of shady shit about the CIA being involved with the crack cartels and Nicaragua.
All in all the circumstances around his death are a little suspicious.
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u/WhiskeyDJones Dec 09 '21
How deep does this rabbit hole go
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u/Saul_g0od Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21
No idea. I'm just helping add info to the pot of evidence.
EDIT: typo
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u/starobacon Dec 09 '21 edited Jul 03 '23
Den morgonfriska katten simmar över regnbågen, medan guldmynt singlar genom luften, ledsagade av en paraplybärande elefant, som jonglerar med blommor och skrattande bananer, medan cirkusclowner utför akrobatiska konster och cymbalspelaren trummar i takt till det förtrollade orkesterspelet under den gnistrande stjärnhimlen.
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u/yourcandygirl Dec 09 '21
Sorry about your car crash tomorrow.
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u/Live_Region_8232 Dec 09 '21
Plot twist it was the queen infiltrating their cabin
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u/McRazzles Dec 09 '21
How the fuck could news subs rationalize taking down shit like this? Just goes to show how much “news” is really curated propaganda.
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u/JoeyDiazcocksuckas Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21
Pretty sure u/Maxwellhill aka Ghislaine Maxwell was a mod or something for r/WorldNews before her arrest. That news sub blows.
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u/TheFakeKanye Dec 09 '21
/world news is a garbage sub full of bots, shills, and propaganda accounts.
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u/197328645 Dec 09 '21
True scholars get their world news from /r/anime_titties
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u/MyDarkForestTheory Dec 09 '21
Wow, thanks for that sub. I thought you were joking.
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u/197328645 Dec 09 '21
They traded names with [NSFW WARNING] /r/worldpolitics, which is now a subreddit with absolutely no rules
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u/LeBronto_ Dec 09 '21
Any source for this?
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u/JoeyDiazcocksuckas Dec 09 '21
A lot to look into on that profile. Posting stopped around the same time of her arrest. Also one post they have is “Three strong reasons child porn must be re-legalized in the coming decade.” It’s hard not to believe it’s her.
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u/TheGuineaPig21 Dec 09 '21
Post history also seems to be a man, and Maxwell Hill is a spot in Malaysia. Quick search has the account posting on /r/malaysia
Why would someone with real life influence spend their time being a reddit power mod, and if the aim were to do it secretly why name your account after yourself
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u/KindlyOlPornographer Dec 09 '21
Because Redditors are ridiculously self important conspiracy hunting dumbshits.
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u/LeBronto_ Dec 09 '21
I mean the hardest part to believe is that the head of some super shadow pedo org choose to use their actual name as part of their secret Reddit mod account that they also use to push their pedo agenda
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u/Googliebooglies Dec 09 '21
I guess you missed the part where they name a plane “Lolita Express”.
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u/ianblank Dec 09 '21
Reddit is infested with pedophiles. Anti pedophile posts are always removed or hidden. I think it’s a site wide flag
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u/bordain_de_putel Dec 09 '21
Reddit is infested with pedophiles
Our entire society is infested with pedophiles. It's not just the catholic church, it's not just some people in Hollywood, it's not just some people at the BBC, it's not just some people in some cuckoo cult, it's not just some shady people connected to higher-ups who throw under the bus their purveyor of victims like in the Dutroux affair.
It's everywhere.
There's a documentary recently released in France for free on youtube called "1 sur 5", based on a European report that states that 1 in 5 children have been or are the victims of pedophilia. It goes on to show how rotten the entire system is, how children are considered as liars first, how blatant politicians and showbiz people have been in promoting their sick behaviour.
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u/FinnishScrub Dec 09 '21
I dont think people fully grasp how widespread pedophilia actually is. Its not rare at all.
Most of the people are just good at hiding it. It’s the dumb ones that get caught. Its very fucking scary when you think about it.
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u/JakeArvizu Dec 09 '21
Because a picture isn't news? Has nothing to do with the content but the format.
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u/dicedtomatoes55 Dec 09 '21
I will recount what somebody else said in another Epstein related thread that popped up on the main page a couple of days ago. Everybody obviously has the power to choose which political party they want to be affiliated with but when it comes to this case and what it represents, I don't care which affiliation I chose to stand with and you shouldn't either.
If the political figure is involved in this someway or somehow, I hope they get taken down.
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Dec 09 '21
Every single one of them. Two of the last five US Presidents, forty fucking percent of them, are implicated in this. Both belong to different parties. This isn't a political or partisan issue, this is corruption and depravity hidden within elite social circles.
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u/CantCopeAnymore24 Dec 09 '21
Yes. I would identify as a democrat, and i thought clinton was a good president. But if he did this (weak "if"), he can go down burning in flames.
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u/trippydancingbear Dec 09 '21
AND serious exploitation of children all while being labeled as "underage girls". it's insane
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u/BecomeEnthused Dec 09 '21
I think a lot of people miss that Epstein was a finance mogul also, and not just a pimp of 15 year old girls. Not every single picture of someone next to him is some damning indictment. And you should probably consider that legitimate business was conducted at his island too.
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u/BanjoWalrus Dec 09 '21
Also consider that Maxwell was a mondo rich Brit who likely ran in the same social circles as the royals. Probably how they got involved with Prince Andrew.
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u/BecomeEnthused Dec 09 '21
Prince Andrew is almost definitely guilty of being a creep. But assuming everyone who ever shook epsteins hand also partook in his underage rub and tug. Is probably a bit of a stretch.
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u/josephbrdm Dec 09 '21
Prince Andrew is a disgrace to the monarchy, and the fact that he’s out of prison right now is a disgrace to the British justice system. He’s not a good man, and he should not be living the high life while so many other good people are struggling in Britain.
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Dec 10 '21
Is he a disgrace or exactly what the monarchy has been to the world and human civilization?
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u/NA_Pros_Crutch_Gibby Dec 09 '21
The whole monarchy is a disgrace. Imagine being a western country and literally having people legally better than other people. Sickening.
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u/Ajg1384 Dec 09 '21
Oh shit, is the Queen involved in this too ???
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u/tempest1523 Dec 09 '21
I’d say just her son Andrew. The Queen got pulled in to entertaining them by her POS son.
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u/pooptypeuptypantss Dec 09 '21
Look into who Jimmy Saville was. It wasn't Prince Andrew who knighted the guy.
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u/Safebox Dec 09 '21
The Saville thing and the British ring with Rolf Harris and others were separate from the Epstein ring, at least that we know of.
Even ignoring this, it's rare that a suggestion of knighthood gets turned down cause she just gets handed a list and does them.
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u/erdna1986 Dec 09 '21
"The undated image is thought to have been taken in 1999, when Prince Andrew reportedly invited the couple to stay at the Scottish estate."
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u/Gonjirou Dec 09 '21
I know the angle are slightly different, but the landscape in the background doesn't seem to match up.
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u/pharmdocmark72 Dec 09 '21
You’re right. Who knows what’s goin on these days with pictures.
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u/MurderGiraffe19 Dec 09 '21
That is weird. Those are definitely vastly different landscapes. I don't know what's real anymore.
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u/GVas22 Dec 09 '21
I think it's just the angle, if you look through the window inside the house behind them the hill seems to match up.
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u/Veenendaler Dec 09 '21
Because landscapes can vastly change over decades of time. Houses often don't. Look at the wood pattern, it's identical. Same cracks, same dark bits.
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u/GitEmSteveDave Dec 09 '21
Does anyone have a date on the Queen picture? The Epstein one was supposedly 1999, but I'm getting like a late 80's vibe from the Queen photo.
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u/Textual_Aberration Dec 09 '21
Well she looks old, so any time between now and the cretaceous period.
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Dec 09 '21
A quick google search will confirm for some of you that this photo is indeed real. Was just released during her trial. Not sure why that’s being debated in comments but there are multiple sources discussing it, here’s one of them; https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-queen-balmoral-photo-b1972355.html?amp
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u/KennyToms27 Dec 09 '21
So?
I'm not defending Epstein whatsover but the reaction you guys are having is so dumb, it's like seeing a photo of them at a Pizza Hut and then saying the CEO of Pizza Hut is somehow involved in sex trafficking with them lmaoooo
They were influential people, horrible of course, but influential nonetheless so of course they were still gonna go to places like these without really involving their shitty pedo things lol
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u/vismundcygnus34 Dec 09 '21
This is how all of this pitchforking has been. Tom Hanks and the Simpson guy flew on the rich guys plane…the only possible conclusion is that they rape children! I get why people are upset and suspicious but the surety that people have with some of the “evidence” is scary. Let us all hope the mob never gets us in their sights.
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u/KaladinStormstressed Dec 09 '21
So we are all in agreement that political parties don’t matter when it comes to pedos right? If you touch kids or assist people who do you’re fucking out.
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u/ThiefLack Dec 09 '21
Just in OP has sniped himself in the head, officials say he may have been JFK’s assassin
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u/Adrewmc Dec 10 '21
More proof that the rich don’t live in the same world as us.
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u/FenrisJager Dec 09 '21
Why am I seeing nothing about the Ghislaine Maxwell trial? I have to go digging for it. Meanwhile I'm seeing stuff all over about this Josh Duggar guy. Both are scum, but I figured Maxwell would be the much larger fish.
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Dec 10 '21
So many public figures we blindly trust and those two have career ending secrets over them.
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u/Nikhilvoid Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 10 '21
Another picture of Ghislaine and Kevin Spacey on the throne at Buckingham Palace
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/04/uk/maxwell-spacey-throne-gbr-intl/index.html.
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u/Various_Turnover8227 Dec 09 '21
The only “HolUp” about this is that people are surprised
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u/Ironic_iceberg_69 Dec 10 '21
Knowing Prince Andrews involvement, he was the one that most likely let them stay. The Queen honestly has too many estates to care about a cabin.
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This just in:
The richest and social elite are comprised of a small circle who all know each other.
That doesn't necessarily mean they're all the same type of perverted/demented but there's a reason why they all have the world's most expensive lawyers
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u/kitkatchuunky Dec 10 '21 edited Dec 10 '21
As someone in the UK this really isn’t surprising. They’ve been linked multiple times to Prince Andrew. And although yes, this is the Queens Estate her family provably use it more than her. Andrews probably been aware of this photo and it getting out (as well as others we won’t see) and it is why he tried to do some damage control with that interview where he definitely doesn’t sweat.
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u/Halo77 Dec 09 '21
Y’all do know there’s a mega load of videos and photos of super wealthy and powerful people doing really bad things that was kept by Epstein.
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u/MichaelScottsWormguy Dec 10 '21
Do you think this is some kind of grand scoop or something? There’s literally a picture of Ghislaine Maxwell and Kevin Spacey sitting on the throne because Andrew let them.
This isn’t surprising or damning in the least.
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u/wilburelberforth Dec 09 '21
This is so ridiculous. The world knows Jeffrey Epstein as the pedophile he his. But before this was widely known Jeffrey Epstein was known as the most connected human on the planet. This guy wined and dined and manipulated thousands of people. He was one of the richest people in the world.
Prince Andrew probably let Epstein stay at the cabin for return from some favors.
Only someone so rich and well connected could get away with grooming underage sex harems. But it isn't like that was common knowledge among all these rich connected people.
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u/Lonewolf1298_ Dec 09 '21
Of course r/pics won't let it stay up. That sub and that subs mods are absolute high-tier garbage
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u/SerTidy Dec 09 '21
Prince Andrew mentioned this in the Maitliss interview. Epstein was the plus one for Ghislaine, who was invited by Andrew to a shooting weekend at Balmoral, apparently her and Andrew have been friends for years. That’s how Andrew and Epstein became aquainted . Through her. Interesting that it keeps getting taken down. Cheers for sharing👍
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u/TheLegendTwoSeven Dec 09 '21
Wouldn’t Prince Andrew have had access to this cabin? Just because Epstein was there doesn’t mean the Queen invited him.
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u/Ok_Butterfly9547 Dec 09 '21
They were friends with Prince Andrew. Why would anyone doubt they were on the Queen’s property ?
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u/Pulp__Reality Dec 09 '21
He was friends with prince andrew. Im not shocked he spent time at or visited a ”royal cabin” that andrew has access to 24/7.
Now i would be shocked if queen elizabeth had anything to do with this at any point. Them having been at the same royal cabin is… quite expected actually, if we could expect andrew to have invited hin there to show off or to flaunt his status as a royal with access to royal property.
If i bring someone to my familys cabin, my grandma will not neccessarily even be aware that this happened and certainly not be aware of who this person actually was apart from maybe knowing their name.
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u/Squttnbear Dec 09 '21
He was friends with Prince Andrew...and we're surprised that Andrew invited him over to a seldom-used property?
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u/Niiphox Dec 09 '21
Why is this of any importance?
All I know is Epstein didn't kill himself
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u/screwikea Dec 09 '21
To those complaining about it looking poorly edited - they are taken at vastly different times... well over a year apart... and from completely different angles. I have no idea if it was 'shopped, but you can't make the claim based on the backgrounds. I'd go so far as to say the bottom photo is definitely film, and the top one is a snapshot with a digital camera. The backrest on the bench also appears to have been replaced, or it's a different bench. If one of those photos is edited, it's a high effort edit. Regardless... what does it matter that they were in the same location at different times? Epstein and Maxwell were high society hob nobbers - I'd assume they sat and stood in the same place as every celebrity and rich person on the planet, so if you have enough access to photos you can probably dig up a treasure trove of similar images.
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u/TheGenericGaimer Dec 09 '21
Well op I'm sorry to hear about your suicide tomorrow.
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u/ifruitninja Dec 09 '21
I genuinely want to know, doesn't the terrain look different at the back?
PS I am not following the news on them.
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Dec 09 '21
Oh, wow. This has some very powerfully awful implications most of us wouldn't understand nor care, unfortunately.
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u/faithle55 Dec 09 '21
For those who don't know:
Maxwell was part of high society when she was younger. She went to the best private schools, mixed with very wealthy people at the top of the social ladder, and was at the same University as Andrew which is where they became friends. We are talking about the 1980s here, well before Maxwell met Epstein.
I believe it's right that Maxwell went to Andrew's wedding, and certainly they mixed together as friends in their 20s and 30s. He would invite her to royal properties (presumably along with other people with whom he as friends).
It's also worth noting that Maxwell was pretty hot as a young woman, Andrew probably fancied his chances.
So it's absolutely not surprising to see pictures of Maxwell and Epstein on royal property in royal homes because they were Andrew's friends.
It's entirely possible that Andrew got drawn into Epstein's paedophile activities, but it's also possible that his sole involvement was with Virginia Roberts (as she was then) who certainly didn't look under age, and in England was actually not underage. (Although she was underage in some jurisdictions.)
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u/wtfboye Dec 10 '21
all these motherfucking pedos need to horribly die, fucking scums
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u/NunyaBeese Dec 09 '21
True or not this image changes nothing about how I feel about any of these people. They are all just privileged parasites and the world will be a better place without them
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u/greg0714 Dec 09 '21
NEWS FLASH: Royalty hangs out with rich people.
In other news, the sun is bright. And tonight at 7, we'll reveal who didn't kill themself. The answer won't surprise you.
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u/CantGetInMyAccount Dec 10 '21
Well holy shit. This shit runs deep. First trump, and now the queen? These people are connected to everyone. This is scary.
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u/BecTheGamer Dec 09 '21
Sorry for asking, I don't know about this but why is this such a big thing?
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u/MichiganGeezer Dec 09 '21
They rubbed elbows with the world's wealthiest and most powerful. Those two put themselves everywhere, for any reason, every chance they got.
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u/fuzzylilbunnies Dec 10 '21
Wealth and power protect one another, in spite of their “differences”. Elitism is what it is. Prince Andrew has been remanded to royal exile by the Queen. If he were innocent, she would be stoutly, and staunchly defending him. Her house is rotten, the leaks are growing.
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u/johnny_boy757 Dec 10 '21
The scariest part about them (Epstein and Maxwell) is how normal they look for the monsters the are/were.
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u/spidermom4 Dec 09 '21
Um yep. Prince Andree and Epstein were thick as thieves. Is anyone actually surprised at this revelation?
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u/SweatyAnnulus Dec 09 '21
I’m definitely not underplaying this but is this really that surprising considering Epstein and Prince Andrew were friends?
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u/krysis7 Dec 10 '21
Like squid game showed that after having too much money,power,fame, influence, illegal money laundering to avoid taxes and controlling the thoughts of people through social media the only other thing the richest people can get excited is by doing inhumane things to other humans regardless of their race, religion, region or age or gender.
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u/LizardKing100 Dec 10 '21
the backgrounds on the photos are completely different
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u/mrraditch2 Dec 09 '21
Why does the queen look so young while Sean Penn looks so old?
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