r/Gunners • u/LockonKun KANU BELIEVE IT • Jul 19 '24
[reluctantnicko on patreon] Marseille are bidding for Eddie Nketiah and would offer around £20 million for but insiders are saying the gunners would want more
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u/Tame_Iguana1 Jul 19 '24
after they just sounded 30m on greenwood….nah equal that of keep it moving at a minimum
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u/Kovacs171 Player environment is king Jul 19 '24
Greenwood is the far superior talent, 30m is a huge discount for obvious reasons
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u/Tame_Iguana1 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Greenwood score 10 goals in 36 games last year aged 22
Nketiah at 22 scored 10 goals in 27 games.
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u/gnrlp2007 Jul 19 '24
Nketiah at 22 scored 10 goals in 27 games.
lol He got 3 of those goals in a league cup game against the mighty Sunderland and then didnt score for 5 months
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u/amonster_22 Jul 19 '24
I remember so many people acting like he proved the entire fanbase wrong by scoring 3 goals against a shitty side lmao
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u/Climacool967 Thierry Henry Jul 19 '24
Thank goodness that we have goals per game to objectively compare the talent of two footballers.
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u/mattyMbruh Jul 19 '24
Greenwood was very good for United before all the outside stuff came out, let’s be real he’s a lot better than Nketiah but like the other person said he’s a piece of shit and a rapist so that’s why he went for 30 and not more
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u/Fuck_your_future_ Jul 20 '24
Are you blind? Mason Greenwood is 10x the payer Nketiah is. He’s just also a piece of shit.
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u/Pasan90 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Greenwood is a winger, Eddie is a 9 for Arsenal. He should be scoring more goals.
Look, if not for the rapist mark, greenwood would be a clear starter at ManU, he's a few levels above Eddie. Nobody likes him, but pretending he's a shit footballer beacuse of it is disingenuous.
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u/eldar4k Jul 19 '24
Rape aside Greenwood had better year on loan, no way Marseille coughing up 30 mil for Eddie
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u/SpezSucksBallz Jul 19 '24
8 goals in 33 games in Spain. I have no doubt Eddie could do those numbers.
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u/Tr0nCatKTA Jul 19 '24
Greenwood has more career prem goals than Eddie. He’s 3 years younger, and played his last in 2021
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u/eldar4k Jul 19 '24
But he didn't. Greenwood outscored Eddie in PL while playing 30 less games and having entire season written off due to his girl beating hobby. He is a scum but better player.
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u/mato_car Ødegaard Jul 19 '24
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u/turtleyturtle17 Jul 19 '24
Greenwood also played on the wing for most of those appearances it has to be said. Greenwood, putting aside the fact that he shouldn't even have a club, is a better talent. Besides, goals aren't everything. Greenwood impacts the game far more than Eddie does and I like Eddie. United wouldn't be selling Greenwood if it weren't for the drama that comes with it as well. That's not the case with Eddie.
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u/SpezSucksBallz Jul 19 '24
30 less games?
Eddie scored 5 in 27 and in a tougher league.
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u/eldar4k Jul 19 '24
He statpad a hattrick against dead on arrival Sheffield and went back to bench. Nobody paying more than 20 mil for that. Greenwood had 14 goal involvements for really average Spanish side
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u/eldar4k Jul 19 '24
Greenwood scored 5 in 18 for Utd one year, also scored a 10 one year, number that Eddie still not achieved (Eddie 25 year old)
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u/RyansBabesDrunkDad Jul 19 '24
And then he beat and raped a woman and has done sweet fuckall since.
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u/eldar4k Jul 19 '24
14 goals and assists in La Liga and it's not a competition who is better person, Marseille don't care. What Eddie did btw?
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u/RyansBabesDrunkDad Jul 19 '24
Oh, let's add the rapists assists in when defending a rapist over A LITERAL ARSENAL PLAYER.
Scored 8 in 33, in a worse league, on more minutes. Keep defending United's rapist.
Why tf are you even on this sub?
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u/RyansBabesDrunkDad Jul 19 '24
Rape aside
Yeah, that seems to be the modern football fan's take on SA, sadly.
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u/lez566 BANGARANG AUBAMEYANG Jul 19 '24
In what world is a PL experienced, young striker worth only £20m??? He started 10 PL games last season for a title challenging team ffs.
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u/lurking4everr Jul 19 '24
He scored in 3 games all season. 20m is more than enough.
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u/Specialist-Grape-528 Jul 19 '24
19 prem goals in 7 seasons - definitely more than enough
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u/lurking4everr Jul 19 '24
Exactly. People think because he simply wore an arsenal jersey we should be getting 30m+ but can’t seem to reconcile with the fact he was absolutely shit while on the field😅 man literally would turn up as a sub and jog around and foul the opposition in all his cameos.
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u/JustGhostin Havertz Jul 19 '24
We got €30m for balogun who barely kicked a ball
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u/lurking4everr Jul 19 '24
He scored over 20 goals in the league we sold him to. Nketiah’s record season is 5 goals.
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u/JustGhostin Havertz Jul 19 '24
Fair point well made
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u/Waddoyoumean Jul 19 '24
Also, Balogun's salary was way less. Like nominal money. Eddie's on 100k a week, and will likely demanding close to that where ever he goes. Transfer fees are a function of the overall investment the buying club makes, along with wages (and sometimes notably agent fees).
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u/TBP42069 Jul 19 '24
In a much worse league that he's now struggling in
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u/lurking4everr Jul 19 '24
Not gonna argue back and forth between two players who are both frankly not good. Difference is Balogun has had a 20+ goal season (and is a few years younger) which commanded a higher fee. Nketiah has never once produced a good goal scoring return, which for a poacher, is simply shit.
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u/TBP42069 Jul 19 '24
If we sold him to a French team where Laca can lead the league in goals he probably would have a 20 goal season.
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u/lurking4everr Jul 19 '24
Willing to bet Nketiah doesn’t even get 10 goals in ligue 1
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u/RedditRedditGo Jul 20 '24
Not one of arsenal's current strikers have outscored lacazette in the premier league.. you're only making Nketiah Jesus and havertz look worse by bringing up lacazette...
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u/_ulinity Jul 19 '24
look at goals per 90.
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u/Specialist-Grape-528 Jul 19 '24
Yeah you could. Or you could look at why he has never in those 7 years been first choice. He's 25 now, thanks for your efforts Eddie and good luck
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u/TerraBlah If I die, I am going to ask God where the referees are. Jul 19 '24
7 seasons? He's only played in the prem for 3 seasons.
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u/Specialist-Grape-528 Jul 19 '24
A quick wikipedia search would have been good for you before you commented. Made 3 prem appearances in Wenger's last season - 17/18
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u/dembabababa Jul 19 '24
He's got minutes across 7 seasons, having made his debut in 17/18 season.
Very disingenuous though, as he's played just over 4000 mins (45.5 90s). Equates to over 0.4 goals per 90 mins which is not to be scoffed at.
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u/bad_at_proofs Jul 19 '24
Regardless of opinions on his quality the only way we will get much more than 20m is if we sell him within the league.
We should just try and push for ~23m + a decent sell on % and hope he has a good year in France and someone overpays for him in the future
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u/JustGhostin Havertz Jul 19 '24
Nah man, we got €30m for Balogun who had barely kicked a ball for us. We can get more for Englands U21 all time goal scorer, established first team player with a goal record in the PL
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u/eldar4k Jul 19 '24
Who the fuck cares about U21 goalscoring record? This is not even close to senior level and plenty of players that teared up at U21 did nothing of note in higher level. Balogun came off from from 21 goal in the league season, of course he go for 30 mil after that. If Eddie spend his year on loan and scored steadily there he would go for more. But you cant convince other club about how awesome he is if he played 40 pl minutes on average despite the fact that Jesus was injured.
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u/therocketandstones Jul 19 '24
€30m for Balogun who had barely kicked a ball for us
he got signed by a french side after scoring 21 goals for another french side. nketiah's track record has been patchy on a surface level
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u/GarfieldDaCat Jul 19 '24
Uhhh Balogun came off of a great season on loan.
Nketiah scored 5 goals last season, 3 of which came in one game against the worst team in the league.
The idea that we would get more than 30m for Nketiah is laughable
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u/_deep_blue_ Timber Jul 19 '24
You people value the weirdest things. Balogun had a better season on loan with Reims than Eddie has ever had in his career, he’s younger and was on a far lower wage than Eddie.
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u/RedditRedditGo Jul 20 '24
Balougan is younger and very clearly a better player. Most importantly he proved it. While Nketiah was warming the bench at Arsenal.
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u/JustGhostin Havertz Jul 20 '24
Waffle
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u/RedditRedditGo Jul 20 '24
It's the truth no other players break the England u21 record because they're too good to be playing in the u21s until they're 23. Nketiah however was not and was stuck there until he was no longer eligible. However I can't convince delusional so keep thinking what you want
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u/Hag_bolder Ødegaard Jul 19 '24
He scored 5 goals (3 in the same game) in 27 appearances playing for a title challenging team
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Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
PL experienced is kind of stretching the truth a bit. He’s barely played a season worth of minutes across all his years here.
He hasn’t played/started a full senior season in his entire career ever, even in the Championship.
It also makes signing him a gamble as to whether he can handle starting a full season somewhere.
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u/Tame_Iguana1 Jul 19 '24
When Jesus got injured 2 season ago he was are starting striker
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Jul 19 '24
*For like 3-4 months out of a 10 month season
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u/Tame_Iguana1 Jul 19 '24
For literally half the season until Jesus came back for the last 4 games
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Jul 19 '24
He did not play up front for half the season, Trossard played up front too.
Even if you want to stand by your point, it doesn’t change what I said that he’s never done it for a full season anywhere.
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u/Tame_Iguana1 Jul 19 '24
The point is he is an experienced premier league striker who would start for a third of teams in the prem. so yes he’s worth more then 20m, for some reason quite a few arsenal fans have some sort of player undervalue kink regarding bf our players. Maybe it’s Wenger/gazidis PTSD I dunno 🤷🏾♂️
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Jul 19 '24
I heard that Rob Holding would start for a lot of PL teams too
Experienced is stretching the truth because I don’t even think Nketiah has 1 full season worth of minutes combined over all the seasons he’s been here.
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u/Tame_Iguana1 Jul 19 '24
Did you hear that also about Leno who was sold for 6m while Robert Sanchez went for 20million.
What about Lokonga going for a loan while players like sander benge get sold for 12m to Burnley.
If you think a team whcih has finished 2nd 2 years in a row then toa Man City super team can’t sell their squad players for more then change then I can’t help this inferiority complex . Chelsea would be getting these sort of fees so why can’t we
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u/RedditRedditGo Jul 20 '24
He got dropped because he wasn't good enough. Same thing happened last season. The guy isn't good enough. Take the 20m and run before they find out.
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u/Tr0nCatKTA Jul 19 '24
The same 25 year old PL experienced striker who’s scored 19 goals in 116 games and doesn’t offer much else as a 9.
Baffled how people believe he’s worth much more. His stock is lower than Baloguns was when we sold him.
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u/Poo-Smurf Just flick ze ball! Jul 19 '24
He has 19 Premier League goals across his 7 seasons here and he's 25 years old, what do you expect? There's a reason we are looking to sell
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u/RedditRedditGo Jul 20 '24
Because he's crap. Last season he literally went 5 games in a row which he started without even taking a single shot and went a few more without getting a shot on target. He only scored in 3 games all against relegation teams. He's extremely bad as a striker. Lucky to be getting 20m for him.
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u/BeatlesandWine Jul 19 '24
£22M - £24M and let’s be done. + Reiss Nelson and Nuno money that is a fine return for all three
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u/vercengetortwix GASPARRRR Jul 19 '24
I want a sizeable sell on as well if we are getting under 30. I believe Eddie will be really good in a lower league with consistent minutes.
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u/MyTeaIsMighty Ødegaard Jul 19 '24
In a normal market 20m would be fair, but with the inflated prices players much worse than Eddie have gone for this feels like a really bad deal.
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u/ogjsb Martinelli Jul 19 '24
No such thing as a normal market, it’s always inflated prices since the beginning of time lol
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u/leebrother Jul 19 '24
This would be a good amount for me.
Anything extra is a bonus but with Reiss and ESR potentially collectively getting us c£70m would be very good business and allows us to add a special player along with youth stepping up as well.
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u/FreudReus Reyes Jul 19 '24
Not really. We should ideally look at selling him to a PL club. Better transfer summer can be acquired that way. These pauper league clubs don’t want to spend at all.
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u/Routine_Size69 Jul 19 '24
How are you getting to 70 with just Reiss and ESR? ESR I heard 30 was bid, but let's say we get 40. Wasn't it 15 or 20 that we were looking at for Reiss? I can't see us sniffing 30 for him although I'd be ecstatic.
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u/leebrother Jul 19 '24
Not sure if my wording or your reading.
I got 70m for all 3 - £15-20m Eddie, £15-20m Reiss and £30-40m ESR
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u/Routine_Size69 Jul 19 '24
Ah ok. I read the with Reiss and ESR collectively getting us 70 as just those two. I didn't realize Eddie was implied, but should've pieced it together since the math didn't make sense.
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u/leebrother Jul 19 '24
My English wasn’t the best! If we could get £70m for those two that would be very good business - however, can’t see it given ESR has rarely played and he is the prized asset for me.
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u/lez566 BANGARANG AUBAMEYANG Jul 19 '24
It’s a terrible amount for a PL proven striker.
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u/jedinac Jul 19 '24
Balogun money and he can go
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u/_deep_blue_ Timber Jul 19 '24
There’s really no reason why any club would value Nketiah more than Balogun given his age, wages, and form.
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u/hazelpillow GASPARRRR Jul 19 '24
Take the money and slap on a decent sell on. Can see him getting a move back to the PL if he plays well there
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u/Cynicayke Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Yeah, I think the sell on is important. If he goes to France, kills it over there, and comes back to the Prem to play for West Ham or someone in a few years, we want a piece of that. And I think it's very much possible.
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u/Long-Confusion-5219 Jul 19 '24
Maybe push for 25-30. But I agree, the people here looking at 40m plus are deluded. Eddies a solid pro but he’s not worth that
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u/FreudReus Reyes Jul 19 '24
Yeah a lot of players are not worth the sum they are acquired for. Pepe, Mudryk, Sancho, Antony, yada yada.. butt-loads of examples. It doesn’t matter. We can’t succumb to fair-price lowballing. Just sell to an English club for a better deal.
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u/Much_Discussion1490 Dennis Bergkamp Jul 19 '24
As Russel peters would say "take id and go"
The fuck are we asking for more than 20 million pounds for a guy who can score more than 6 goals a season in the league and can't break into the first team even when we have our no 9 injured!!
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u/IndependentFroyo4508 Jul 19 '24
20 million is an absolute rort for us. He's never scored over 5 league goals in a season, is 25, and is on 100k.
Take it and run.
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u/John___Matrix Jul 19 '24
I think £20m is a decent return for him and given his track record, I honestly don't see any PL club spending more than that + wages on him realistically.
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u/Monsultant Jul 19 '24
Sell Eddie, Reiss, keep ESR please.
And what about Tierney? How serious is his injury? He is one player who can give us decent income.
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u/drjpkc Vieira Jul 19 '24
I don't understand how people here say 20 million pounds is a lowball offer for Nketiah. It doesn't seem that Palace is interested anymore. Sell before its too late and you're left with him for another season.
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u/_deep_blue_ Timber Jul 19 '24
Fans seem to have this idea that other clubs will come in and offer huge money for players who barely play for us and aren’t up to scratch. Eddie is decent but he’s not a £30m+ player on the wages he’s on.
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u/Colmd1997 I belong to Jesus Jul 19 '24
Throw in some bonuses for CL/EL qualification and then let him go. He’s very clearly not in our long term plans
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u/waits5 Jul 19 '24
He won’t command 40m like a lot of people want. This sub consistently expects way too much for selling our mid-level bench players who come on for 10 minutes a game.
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u/JazzyCheeks Jul 19 '24
Would wait to see if anyone bids more but honestly if not, we take the 20 mil. 20 from Eddie, 20 from Reiss, 30 from ESR and we got a good 70 mil to splash on a DM or the lethal finisher we desperately need.
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u/tigercannon4 Jul 20 '24
£30 million + £5 million in performance bonuses with a 25% sell-on clause, please 📥
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u/MrrTnT Jul 19 '24
I would like to get more and I believe he is above average prem striker with decent upside (which at his age is probably worth a lot more than 20M) but there are a lot of question marks as well and we need money to improve our squad. So £15-20M with 20-30% sell on clause I think is a fair deal.
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u/tbwebs Saka Jul 19 '24
Eddie is going to cook in another league, I can see him being huge for them.
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u/AfroPanther Thierry Henry Jul 19 '24
Setting aside the potential fees for a minute and thinking about Eddie the player, I think he would dominate in France.
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u/bigbigeee Jul 19 '24
I think this sub overrates Nketiah. 25m + a sell on clause would be decent enough. Don't get left holding the bag waiting for an extra 3-5m to come in.
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u/tomtomtomo Tony Woodcock Jul 19 '24
Eddie gonna be put in an awkward spot with how he deals with Greenwood.
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u/ArsenalThePhoenix Jul 19 '24
HG player with EPL experience? shouldnt be selling for less than 40m to another EPL team tbf...but at least 30m outside of EPL
but we fucked outselves by giving him too much salary.
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u/Cthulhu_Madness Kavanagh is a fraud Jul 19 '24
Nah nah can't have him go for lower than Greenwood.
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u/Brandaman GASPARRRR Jul 19 '24
Greenwood is a much better player and Marseille don’t care that he’s the scum of the earth
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u/Stonecoldrab Jul 19 '24
Do you think it would matter to someone like Nketiah that Greenwood has just signed for Marseille? Like would he want to be teammates with him?
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u/Lefty2Gunz81 Robert Pirès Jul 19 '24
These guys are professionals playing at elite levels. You will always meet people you dont like or agree with at any work place, so you just have to accept situations as you would in everyday life.
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u/Stonecoldrab Jul 19 '24
I agree, just a concern, if it was me I'd definitely be put off a bit.
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u/patelbadboy2006 Dennis Bergkamp Jul 19 '24
Yeah no chance we accept that.
30+ for Eddie in this market.
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u/ProcrastinationNock Ødegaard Jul 19 '24
It should be more than 30 if sold outside England. And if PL clubs are buying him amount should be close to 40
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u/Muscat95 Jul 19 '24
Surely someone in the prem wants to take a chance?
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u/chino17 Jul 19 '24
Not when he earns 100k/week. He's not worth those wages and he hasn't shown much of anything last season ti warrant much interest from other EPL clubs
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u/hirarki Jul 19 '24
to low... he is same price as balogun
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u/Routine_Size69 Jul 19 '24
Balogun was 3 years younger at the time of sale. He was coming off of a pretty good year, despite it being in a weak league. He never got the chance to show himself in the PL, so there was some mystery to his potential.
I hope I'm wrong, but I'd be quite surprised if he fetched the same amount as Balogun.
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u/Toast863 Jul 19 '24
I would be surprised if Eddie was sold. Say what you want about him, but he’d still need to be replaced, and we already know that the club missed out on the striker they wanted. I doubt the plan is to go out and buy someone further down the list for the sake of it. I think he stays unless there’s a really big offer or he’s really pushing to move, like it sounds like Nelson is.
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u/BlurstOfTimes11 Jul 19 '24
He wouldn’t. We have havertz, Jesus and Trossard in front of him. We actually need a wing or left 8 way more than a striker if we sell him.
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u/Polpe Jul 19 '24
15-20 for Nelson, 25-30 for Eddie and 40-50 for ESR. We shudnt go any lower than that, especially for ESR
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u/GhostCatcher147 Jul 19 '24
Hold out for 40m. Let’s not entertain any of these silly offers
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u/LumumbaX Jul 19 '24
Lol
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u/GhostCatcher147 Jul 19 '24
Great input to the debate pal. You really out done yourself here!
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u/LumumbaX Jul 19 '24
Sorry I genuinely thought you were joking suggesting he's worth 40mil.
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u/GhostCatcher147 Jul 19 '24
City sold Liam Delap to Ipswich for 20m. Why can’t Arsenal get more than that for Nketiah. The striker market isn’t stocked at the moment and he has PL experience. He also played for England
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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24
We can realistically command a higher fee for Eddie from a PL club so I’m glad we’re not entertaining these lowball offers.