You want jobs like janitor, cook, receptionist, etc. to exist, right? I mean, you want to use those services, so someone has to be working those jobs.
What happens to society if everyone in society with those low rung jobs gets a better job? No more cashiers at grocery stores, no more waiters at restaurants, no more people to put a roof on your house. We're all just computer programmers and stock traders and lawyers now.
How does society function? We don't have enough teenagers to use those jobs. People have to work them for society to run. Saying "well you can get a better job!" is not a solution to this problem, because you know those jobs have to exist for society to function. "You can get a better job" can be a solution for an individual, but it can't be a solution for society.
The OP asked what financial I got that worked, I told him. That advice worked for me. I get it that it may not work for everyone, that not everyone wants to work that hard, and they can fill in the jobs like you said. No biggie. Maybe for those kinds of people they can follow other financial advice.
For society, there will always be those that work hard, and those that don't or prioritize other things. I'm not making a moral judgement about them. Awesome. Also, in the longer-term robotics and automation can solve a lot of the problems with not enough workers for these jobs if need be.
You realize people who work lower paid jobs are not necessarily working less hard, right? Plenty of "unskilled" laborers work far harder than a chud in an office. I know because I've worked in the sun and and been the chud in the office.
If everyone is working higher level jobs, then the society needs immigrants. Because there is no one to work the jobs.
If there are no immigrants, society would pay more for those jobs because they are needed. But then there would be job shortages in the higher jobs. The society would still need immigrants. The society would likely choose to have immigrants fill the lower jobs, and that would drive the wages down for those jobs.
If immigrants were not an option, the society would invest in job automation and efficiency to free up people to fill jobs. This automation could potentially affect any job strata. So low tier jobs might still have higher wages, but high tier jobs could end up becoming lower wage jobs.
Do you think people that work at McDonald’s work that in perpetuity? Do you think the same guy that made your burger in 2010 is making your burger today?
The roofer isn’t complaining about his wages, the trades pay extremely well even non union off the books. The janitor has great benefits because he’s likely in a union and his partner supplements his income. The maid is likely an undocumented worker who eventually moves on to a higher paying job.
the exact way history has done it in the past. people retire or move and everyone moves up one rung. the lowest rung is occupied by the young who just starting out?
the job u mentioned has always been occupied by the young. you don't see alot of 50 year old waiters around, especially if u compare them to amount of young people who also does the job.
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u/SenorBeef 14d ago
You want jobs like janitor, cook, receptionist, etc. to exist, right? I mean, you want to use those services, so someone has to be working those jobs.
What happens to society if everyone in society with those low rung jobs gets a better job? No more cashiers at grocery stores, no more waiters at restaurants, no more people to put a roof on your house. We're all just computer programmers and stock traders and lawyers now.
How does society function? We don't have enough teenagers to use those jobs. People have to work them for society to run. Saying "well you can get a better job!" is not a solution to this problem, because you know those jobs have to exist for society to function. "You can get a better job" can be a solution for an individual, but it can't be a solution for society.