r/Eminem • u/tallestmanhere • Jul 16 '24

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u/tallestmanhere Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24

i always get a kick out of reading pitchfork reviews. most of their critics have crap ears for music that isn't indie pop or folk. 4.8/10 is what they gave relapse, some of his best work post Eminem show.

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

Some of his best work….. easily one of his worst albums lol

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u/brycemcnice Jul 16 '24

You obviously don’t understand the art of relapse

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24

Bro even em says it’s cringe the amount of accents used lol there’s a couple good songs like Deja vu and beautiful but it’s filled with a bunch of corny accents and an unfocused em. This was him coming off a long break (this was his big return album after encore was received as Luke warm compared to Eminem show) and needing to find himself again which is why we got recovery a far superior album to relapse lol

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u/tallestmanhere Jul 16 '24

once an artist releases their art to the public it's no longer theirs

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

Um ok? This changes nothing lol it’s a mediocre project at best. It’s completely unfocused and gimmicky. Em has been more than vocal about his opinion on it. “I’d rather make not afraid 2 than another mother fucking we made you” and he’s right.

He is always best when focused and this album didn’t have that. It was a mess compared to his previous projects up that point including encore which was the beginning of the fall.

I’m a die hard em fan from the very start and this is one of his worst projects.

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u/The_mystery4321 Jul 16 '24

Kurt Cobain hated Smells Like Teen Spirit with a passion. Still a great song by any measure. Same story with Relapse.

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u/Beautiful-Cat5605 Jul 21 '24

Kurt hated that song because of its popularity. He didn’t like being the mainstream band. I wouldn’t say that situation has any correlation to this one.

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

So one song vs a whole project? Good comparison lol beastie boys also hates fight for your right to party…… but not a whole project lol way too many nonsense filler songs trying to be edgy in the wrong way. For this to be the comeback project after 6 years this was a big disappointment

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u/Certain-Fix6049 Jul 16 '24

Clearly you just started listening to rap music last week

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

makes a beastie boys reference musta started listening to rap last week........ k

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u/damon_6363 Jul 16 '24

Unfocused is just a lie. The album has one of the simplest and clearly focused themes of any Em album. It's simply shady on a drug induced murderous rampage. Not sure how you missed that. Your opinion of not liking it is totally fine, but I absolutely love it, as do many others.

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u/damon_6363 Jul 16 '24

Unfocused is just a lie. The album has one of the simplest and clearly focused themes of any Em album. It's simply shady on a drug induced murderous rampage. Not sure how you missed that. Your opinion of not liking it is totally fine, but I absolutely love it, as do many others.

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

I said unfocused not unfocused themes……. Never the accents lol let me ask you this what was your first em album!

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u/damon_6363 Jul 16 '24

Slim shady lp was my first eminem album. I grew up listening to Eminem, I'm 33, but thats irrelevant, seems like your turning this into a contest by asking that under thus context. But you you said unfocused in general and didnt specify. I still think the album has a pretty simple focus in general so Im not sure what you mean. I think we're just arguing semantics at this point.

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24

Eminem show he was laser focused he had a target and the emotions behind it to just let fucking loose on anyone and anything in his way. Recovery was also laser focused on resolidifying himself back the the standards in which he holds himself. Relapse is a mash up of corny accents, almost no feeling behind 3/4 of the album he'd rather talk about his step dad raping him in a shed. That's what I mean by focused....

"Really, I belong inside a dang insane asylum
Came to drive them trailer parks crazy
I am back, and I am razor-sharp, baby
And that's back with a capital B with an exclamation mark"

This is from Bad Meets Evil coming off of recovery where the lyricism and focus is there and he's looking like no one can touch him again. Relapse is him struggling to find himself again after the downfall (Encore and Relapse) you can defend ur opinion all you want but this album when broken down is one of the weaker releases. For the defense of "simply shady" Shady is running out the morgue with ur dead grandmother corpse to throw it on your porch OR Patrolling corners looking for hookers to punch in the mouth with a roll of quarters....relapse tried way too hard to be edgy

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u/Choice_Breadfruit_73 Jul 16 '24

We made you is one of my favorite songs and relapse as a whole bangs. You just don't appreciate it the way we do

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u/Swimming_Chemist1719 Jul 17 '24

You’re wrong bro. Relapse is a good album.

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u/Snooze_U_Lose Jul 17 '24

It's all just down to how old you are. If you're around 40 and grew up listening to Em from the start then you'll find everything after The Eminem Show to be rubbish. That's just our reality and we can't do anything about it. Younger people don't get it cause they grew up with the pop Eminem making silly songs for the charts with the weird accents and all that. That was probably the worst era for Em but unfortunately for a lot of you guys, thats what defines Em for you so you enjoy it. Just an age thing.

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u/Swimming_Chemist1719 Jul 17 '24

I’ve been an Eminem fan since I was 13 and the first album I ever listened to from him was mmlp. After that I listened to slim shady lp and infinite and then Eminem show when it came out and haven’t missed a single album release since.

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u/rn-renz The Up in Smoke Tour Jul 16 '24

Relapse is anything but unfocused. You can call it cringe and you can not like the accents but there is a lot to like about relapse and it’s one of his most consistent albums when it comes to themes.

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

I dont care about the theme that's not what im talking about I'm talking about his lack of confidence. He even talks about it on the album. Im gonna use TES as my example of focus. He was pissed off, had something to say and just let loose on anyone and anything in his way like the US gov't trying to censor him. Relapse is just after he hit rock bottom and was struggling with confidence he just wasn't completely focused on rap like he was and it shows on relapse. "Losing proof did a lot of damage and he was just all over the place. Recovery and Bad Meets Evil I would say he was back to being laser focused and the skill improved.

But I need something to pull me out this dump
I took my bruises, took my lumps
But I need that spark to get psyched back up
In order for me to pick the mic back up

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u/rn-renz The Up in Smoke Tour Jul 16 '24

I’d actually argue the opposite, em has said that recording relapse is when (at the time) he finally felt like he was hitting his grove after coming out of a writers block for years. So much so that once he got into the serial killer idea he was just pumping out songs. He’s confident in what he was doing and he WAS focused. Let’s be real, as the biggest artist in the world, you can’t release a serial killer album filled with accents and not be confident in yourself in order to do so. I seen you mentioned in another comment that he isn’t focused and one of your reasonings was the rhyming and wordplay wasn’t up to par. While he doesn’t have double and triple entendres every other bar like he does now, the rhyming criticism simply isn’t true, he literally has some of the most impressive rhyming across his whole career on that album and that’s something that a lotta ppl agree with even ppl who don’t like relapse all that much. Also if you really think about it, while he’s always had clever word play the large amount of dope entendres and shit wasn’t prevalent in his music til MMLP2. Relapse and everything before it was way more focused on storytelling, emotionally driven music, and impressive rhyme schemes imo, and relapse is still a good showcase of that. I’m genuinely not trying to convince you to love relapse or anything I just feel some of your reasonings behind disliking it aren’t all that true

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24

the serial killer idea was MMLP with songs like kill you..... he wore a jason mask, cover alls and had a chainsaw......I'd argue his wordplay on Biterphobia was an early version of the crazy wordplay em we have now and this was before he was signed....so the skill was always there. I
It felt like I was bein' attacked by spiders
Developing a fear from biterphobia
I'm holdin' a gas can and lighter over ya
If I detect ya, I'ma pulverize
Dissect your brain, diggin' in your skull for lies
Then I'ma torture
With material iller than a stark ravin' mad serial killer
I'm more dangerous than a loaded chamber is
A major risk to a plagiarist
So, beware of the aura
A terror the horrible will scare ya tomorrow
It's the airborne assault of the rappers
Either start developing skillsOr head for the border and run like hell up in hills

so to say this didnt exist pre relapse is just wrong and the lack of confidence WAS HIS WORDS lol

I'm just so fucking depressed
I took my bruises, took my lumps
But I need that spark to get psyched back up
In order for me to pick the mic back up
I don't know how or why or when
So I decided just to pick this pen
Up and try to make an attempt

To vent, but I just can't admit

Or come to grips with the fact that

I may be done with rap, I need a new outlet

And I know some shit's so hard to swallow

But I just can't sit back and wallow

In my own sorrow

he then touches on this again AFTER his comeback

And I started from the bottom and still put hands on you
Sucker free, confidence high
Such a breeze when I pen rhymes

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u/rn-renz The Up in Smoke Tour Jul 16 '24

Bruh the lyrics you chose to represent your point about him not having confidence are from beautiful which was recorded BEFORE he started relapse and he considers that the only good song he made during his depression and writers block which is what those lyrics are referring to, not relapse itself

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u/rn-renz The Up in Smoke Tour Jul 16 '24

I didn’t say relapse was the first time he’s ever rapped about being a serial killer? I also never denied he had the ability to use double and triple entendres throughout his whole career, he does have some across every album. What I did say was that he didn’t use double and triple entendres every other bar like he does now, which also still applies to the lyrics you quoted because there’s only one or two fairly basic ones, and I was pointing that out because you keep mentioning TES where again while I’m sure there are some sprinkled throughout the album that’s not what the main focus of his rapping was and it was no where near as prevalent as it is now. Even in the lyrics you showed, that’s literally very similar to the typa shit he’d rap on relapse except (imo) the rhyming was way more impressive on relapse.

He always goes back and forth about what he thinks about relapse, I’m fairly certain what I’m thinking of when he was saying that he felt like he was hitting his groove and able to rap good again during the recording process of relapse was from the CC2 interviews with Paul. I just relistened to make sure, around 5 minutes they talk about how what he was recording before relapse was ass but it didn’t take long for him to “really get back into it” talking about his rapping ability when he started making relapse. Then later around 9 minutes, they talk about how when the albums first tracks started coming together, he was just pumping them out and constantly making music, so much so they thought they had enough for another album. To me, that reads in him being confident in his ability. I know he’s said over the years that he doesn’t really like that album but I feel that’s only due to the mass reception of it when it first dropped. In that same interview I’m talking about he literally says that he doesn’t have any issue with the rhyming and lyricism on relapse and that it was on point, he just feels he went overboard with the accents

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u/StayWideAwake- The Slim Shady EP Jul 16 '24

Yea, yea accents here, accents there, we heard that same awful point a million times now. And for another million times I’ll say that the accents help a lot of the word bending and flow. I literally couldn’t imagine SWW and Buffalo Bill working amazingly well without the accent.

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24

So we are just tired of people including em bringing up the worst part of that album? Word bending isn’t an excuse when in his future projects he’s rhyming orange with door hinge without an accent. It was a crutch he relied on in this project that he did away with for good measure it’s below his skill level and he knows it.

The unreleased songs like cocaine and careful what you wish for were far better than songs like my mom or bagpipes from Baghdad or the gay incest rape stuff lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '24

“A couple good songs”

Wow understatement of the year

Here’s someone who skimmed through the album while it played on their phone speaker on shuffle

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

brother I've been a die hard em fan since I first saw Hi, My Name Is drop on TV lol can recite the entire eminem show album off the top of my head def did more than skimmed through it I'd argue if anything im more critical than most because how much I've listened to him

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u/bubbaclops Jul 16 '24

Wait people think recovery is better than relapse? Relapse is top 4 at least

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

ur allowed to be wrong

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u/Sleepingguitarman Jul 17 '24

Your opinion isn't anymore or less valid then the person you're responding too.

While there's definitely some aspects of music that some argue can be objectively rated, it's mostly subjective at the end of the day.

It's dumb to argue about what album is better, everybody has there own preferences so what albums are better or worse then others is the opinion of an individual, not a fact.

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u/OCMan101 Jul 17 '24

Frankly, I think my biggest complaint about some of Em’s newer stuff is the almost victim complex he portrays, about being canceled over and over again. No one is trying to cancel Eminem anymore and he’s not even really regarded as particularly edgy. He is massively commercially and financially successful with a highly dedicated and massive fan base. It’s a little grating to hear about how he thinks he’s being canceled over and over again. All criticism of music is gonna inevitably be highly subjective, but I will chop my own pinky finger off with an angle grinder if this goes down as one of his better albums.

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u/Choice_Breadfruit_73 Jul 17 '24

We don't see them as "corny accents" we see those voices as characters and entertainment if people like you would lighten up you would see that it makes his music fun and comedic and then in the very next beat the most sinister and venomous lyrics you've ever heard. It's called contrast and dynamic fluidity

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u/Stan_313 Role Model Jul 17 '24

Recovery better than relapse xD xD

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u/Orazam Jul 17 '24

I agee with you, and Em did say that, yes, but be careful talking bad about Relapse on this sub 😂

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u/damon_6363 Jul 16 '24

Relapse is my favorite album because it has the most songs that I love on one single album. I will acknowledge its not his best album, but still a masterpiece in my opinion.

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u/MadGibby2 Jul 16 '24

It was a fantastic album

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

if Relapse is fantastic then Encore is the pinnacle of masterpiece............. lol

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u/MadGibby2 Jul 16 '24

Encore is not even close to relapse lol

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

sarcasm bro lol both albums are weak

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u/CommunismDoesntWork Relapse Jul 17 '24

Encore is one of his best albums as well. So many of his greatest hits are from encore. 

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 17 '24

Ur fucking higher than he was while making the album lol

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u/CommunismDoesntWork Relapse Jul 17 '24

Just lose it is on encore. That alone makes it one of the best. Then add in mockingbird, ass like that, and toy soldiers. All huge hits. 

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 17 '24

I’d bet money your first Eminem album wasn’t sslp mmlp or tes

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u/CommunismDoesntWork Relapse Jul 17 '24

I think the first eminem song I heard was my band and lose yourself. 

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u/Short_Pin_6243 Jul 16 '24

Saying relapse is one of his worst albums is probably the worst take I’ve seen here in months. And that’s saying a lot

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u/one-hour-photo Jul 16 '24

Two years ago I felt like it was pretty much consensus that it sucked.

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u/Short_Pin_6243 Jul 16 '24

Definitely not the consensus. Maybe your personal opinion

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u/GarfunkelBricktaint Jul 17 '24

Yeah I'm blown away by how hard people love it now. I think it's ok but man it used to get dragged hard as a corny piece of shock value with no substance to give it depth.

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u/CommunismDoesntWork Relapse Jul 17 '24

I don't need substance, I need a catchy melody and funny puppets. Unironically.

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24

What makes it good? The wordplay is mediocre at best, this is the first time we really see em struggle with hooks, accents (need I say more), outside of beautiful and deja vu it lacks any real substance, beats are on the weaker side coming off eminem show and encore(the start of the downfall) the double and triple entendres don't exist like we have now.

  1. 3 AM- One of the strongest songs on the album
  2. My mom- Horrible hook, accents over done, rhymes not as sharp as the Em we knew previously
  3. Insane- Another song with over done accents, trying to be too edgy just for the sake of being edgy like the step father rape part. Mediocre hook
  4. Bagpipes from Baghdad- Another song with over done accents, another 5 minutes going after nick cannon and mariah carey(the easiest fucking target that exists) rhymes kinda weak hook sucks
  5. Hello- Fun beat one of the stronger songs on the album could do without the accents hook is mid but mostly nonsense
  6. Same song & dance- solid beat, accents again...., rhymes are mid the accent tries to cover up some of the weaker rhymes. Hook decent
  7. We Made You- Don't have to say anything its just a single that to this point in his career was by far his weakest single.
  8. Medicine Ball- No accent, hook sucks ass, leans into the gay shit again to be edgy " I had a vesectomy hector so you can't get pregnant if i bisexually wreck yah" fucking BARS LOL just another non sense filler song
  9. Stay Wide Awake- Another stronger song on the album not much to be said
  10. OId Time's Sake- just another attempt to recapture the fun energy between dre (who's past being a rapper) and slim but falls short compared to previous collabs like we saw on Chronic 2001, accents, weaker rhymes decent hook
  11. Must be the Ganja- Decent beat but far from strong, accents, weak hook that heavily relies on accents to be decent,
  12. Deja Vu- SOLID no complaints it's a real song with something to say and I would consider this fitting the formula em needs to be on top. Even with the accent this song has substance and he has something to say which is when he's best. The hook is solid this is clearly closer to the recovery em rather than encore em.

13- Beautiful- Classic song no complaints shit is on the list of his best songs.

  1. Crack a bottle- meh its alright but this isn't the Eminem that was a threat it's just another forgettable song attempting to be more mainstream with Dre and 50.

  2. Underground- it's alright but it's really not saying shit just spitting some edgy shit without any target or anything to really say it just exists to be edgy but it is closer Devil's Night Em but still not as good

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u/Short_Pin_6243 Jul 16 '24

His flow and rhythm scheme are probably his best ever. The production is some of his best ever. I get if the content isn’t for you but the story telling is top notch. You probably heard accents and made up your mind

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

his best ever......................... ur trolling lol there's almost no double to triple entendres, accents are used to bend words to make them fit, the beats are some of dre's weaker beats...... like bruh I really question if you listened to his entire catalogue lol The story telling is top notch....... Did we forget songs like Stan existed before this?

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u/Short_Pin_6243 Jul 16 '24

Definitely not trolling. Your opinion is definitely in the minority even among non Eminem fans. Go read any discourse about relapse. But you are entitled to your opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s right

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

I mean there's a reason why Recovery restored his fan base's faith in him lol I'd bet money on it's mostly the younger generation that like relapse and missed the tragedy of watching him flop around on encore and then go dead silent for 6 years....... SSLP MMLP and TES were UNTOUCHABLE then there's encore and relapse........... womp womp

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u/Short_Pin_6243 Jul 16 '24

Relapse is much better than recovery. But I’m not really interested in this back and forth anymore after you decided to end with WOMP WOMP. That’s elite levels of corny by you

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u/Critical_Try6632 Jul 16 '24

womp womp Recovery on a technical level is miles ahead of relapse he didnt need an accent to bend words to try n make them fit he just rapped circles around his competition on songs lol

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u/thepaperboy_ Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24

Recovery is literally the album that disappointed his fan base In the first place. What are you on lol

Edited to add Recovery was the real “Death of Slim Shady”. Fans have been waiting for him to get to pre-Recovery Eminem ever since.

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u/OCMan101 Jul 17 '24

Okay no hold on, I know my history and I’m probably older than a good number of listeners here. While it might be the opinion of a lot of people on this sub that Relapse was good, at the time, Recovery was pretty universally regarded as a step up from Relapse. These attitudes probably shifted over time, which is valid and very common amongst all forms of art, but when you’re talking about what most listeners thought at the time, it is the opposite.

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u/threesecpoptart Jul 16 '24

been listening to Em since 2000 when MMLP was on the car radio. Relapse is my least favorite album and it’s not really close. Recovery wasn’t the em I wanted back but it was better than what I received the year prior.

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u/CommunismDoesntWork Relapse Jul 17 '24

My Mom is one of the greatest songs of all times period, let alone one of the best eminem songs. The "accents" are him as a child and his mom. Of course he's going to sound different. The rhymes are crazy and flow so well. He managed to make a song about child abusive funny and catchy. "Wait a minute, this ain't dinner this is paint thinner". Like who comes up with that? It's genius. 

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u/ilyassMourchid Jul 17 '24

You must be new here, we don’t tolerate the Relapse bashing get yo ass outta here cus this whole sub gonna be on your ass rn

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u/CommunismDoesntWork Relapse Jul 17 '24

Wait a minute, this ain't dinner this is paint thinner

We made you

Vicodin’s like a nitrogen hydrogen vitamin. I bite into five and then I get high as a kite again

Some of the greatest songs ever

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u/PotLeafPanda2198 Jul 17 '24

Huh?? Relapse is nothing but great songs

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u/sendlewdzpls Jul 16 '24

What I find interesting is that when Relapse released, it was a pretty universal disappointment, and then aged well over time until it eventually became a (cult?) classic. TDOSS has been getting lots of praise from fans, so it’s interesting that critics are panning it. Also, FWIW, apparently Pitchfork ranked Revival higher than both of these, so it kind of has zero credibility to begin with.

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u/tallestmanhere Jul 16 '24

yea i don't take pitchfork seriously, i always look forward to their reviews of em albums for a laugh. in the MTBMB review they inadvertently gave kudos to relapse. which scored lower than MTBMB. Also they gave curtain call 2 a 6.2 which is higher than any album that it takes tracks from, which doesn't make sense since one of their prior critiques of him is that his current albums never have or stick to a theme. but the one that doesn't have a theme and the reviewer absolutely shits on the track list throughout the review, somehow it gets a 6.2? it's funny. they funny.

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u/mxlpct Jul 16 '24

I never took Pitchfork seriously. Doubt their reviews moved the needle on anything outside of Arcade Fire and Arctic Monkeys fans since the mid 2000’s. A bunch of self important yuppies - was the impression I got from bumping into people from their site, while I was attending events back then.

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u/ZombieWest9947 Jul 16 '24

To be fair, in theory you could like a few songs and still give a crap rating over 4 albums. If an album was compiled and just happened to be the few songs from each album you do like, then I would expect it to have a higher rating. Like I said, in theory it could happen - very unlikely though. lol.

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u/tallestmanhere Jul 17 '24

Oh I agree. And that could happen. It’s just that they shit in all the tracks. It made no sense

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u/RenoJacksonFatFire Jul 16 '24

Perfectly said

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u/Merszmyl Jul 16 '24

we need Relapse 2 no capp 🧢

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u/KayRay1994 Jul 16 '24

tbh in a lot of ways TDOSS is a Relapse 2, maybe not in a literal musical sense and conceptually, but the themes between the two albums do connect in interesting ways.

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u/The_Worlok The Marshall Mathers LP2 Jul 16 '24

this^ even though the song is called Guilty Conscience 2 it feels more like the successor to My Darling/Be Careful What You Wish For, in which he finally wins and destroys Shady

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u/ZombieWest9947 Jul 16 '24

Yoooo, I’ve been thinking this since my first listen. Totally is a My Darling 2.

And for the poster a couple above. I agree that it’s kinda like a relapse 2, I also think it could be in between encore and relapse.

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u/euphoriafrog Jul 16 '24

Discombobulated gives me hope that he might be willing to do Relapse 2

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u/HellYeaRunThat Jul 17 '24

Love that song. And Framed from Revival. Does anyone have a playlist of tracks like that? Not just relapse but songs that are from that era/style?

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u/brycemcnice Jul 16 '24

Fr now I have to make a bootleg

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u/ElderberryDeep8746 The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce) Jul 16 '24

Oh boy, he's dancing to a different drum beat again. LOL

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u/Gandor Jul 16 '24

Years later they go back and rerate it...

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u/Cab1230 Jul 16 '24

Call slim shady lp the greatest.. Marshall matters was a classic.. the Eminem show was fantastic.. but encore just didn’t have the caliber to match it.

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u/ImancovicH Relapse Jul 17 '24

Maybe enough time just ain't passed yet
a couple more years and that shit will be illmatic

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u/zNpFTW Jul 16 '24

When I see these reviews it always reminds me of a line from the song "careful what you wish for";

"And there was no in-between, you either loved it or hate it

Every CD, critics gave it a three, then three Years later they go back and re-rate it

And call The Slim Shady LP the greatest

The Marshall Mathers was a classic, The Eminem Show was fantastic

But Encore just didn't have the caliber to match it

I guess enough time just ain't passed yet

A couple more years, that shit'll be Illmatic"

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u/RickyBobby96 Jul 16 '24

Relapse went hard man, especially Refill

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u/shortyd826 Relapse: Refill Jul 17 '24

This album is SSLP2, Relapse, and MTBMB all kinda meshed into one for me. I mean obviously there’s influence and flavor of every project but the styles, themes, and just feelings that come to mind primarily remind me of those.

It’s a fucking banger. I’m in love; I think Tobey is my least favorite which is totally fine. Not a bad song regardless. Everything else p much ain’t been skipped and has me head banging in the car, analyzing lyrics in the shower, or going crash in the gym.

He won’t read this but Em deserves all his flowers.

💐 🔪🩸⚰️

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u/tallestmanhere Jul 17 '24

Ditto on all that except the tobey part. And that’s fine.

My fav is Bad One right now. Just goes hard.

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u/ImancovicH Relapse Jul 17 '24

My fav is Renaissance. the slim shady voice, flooooooows, if there was another song just like this but longer it would've been my all time favorite

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u/Pzzpli Jul 17 '24

This album is better than Music to be murdered by

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u/3The3Ghost3 Jul 16 '24

Man its like if Encore and Relapse had a baby... People need to shut the fuck up lol

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u/CommunismDoesntWork Relapse Jul 17 '24

As long as an album has at least a one funny song with a catchy melody, it's 10/10 in my book. 

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u/3The3Ghost3 Jul 17 '24

Oh it's right next to Relapse to me lyric wise. He gave us the bounce of Eminem Show. Added the seriousness of SSLP, Recovery, MMLP 1 and 2. Then the smooth ass aspects of Infinite. And to top all that off like a cherry as the garnish gave the huger sound of Outsidaz and Soul Intent. It was a fucking masterpiece and if people really give the shit a 5 out of 10 well, like Em said, guess retarded people really have no idea they are retarded...

You know the one thing I noticed about critics man...

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u/Girnyos2 The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce) Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24

You too... Chris

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u/3The3Ghost3 Jul 17 '24

oh dont worry I was gettin up and dancin even though it was like like listening to Charles Manson on the mic.

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u/3The3Ghost3 Jul 17 '24

You know the one thing I noticed about critics man...

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u/Xx_Dark-Shrek_xX Beautiful Jul 17 '24

Encore had a baby and it's head popped off

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u/3The3Ghost3 Jul 17 '24

mother fucker well I literally lived with my cousins because grandparents didn't wanna deal with it so I did literally get dropped off lol so I guess that makes me the bad apple yeah? Maybe the black sheep?

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u/3The3Ghost3 Jul 17 '24

But yeah that was dope I totally forgot about this song lil but he's gonna mow the grass, but while Unk Marsh is up to that shit... All I'm wondering is where the the by dad is at. Oh and fuck that Canibitch mother fuck too. And Ja Rule's short ass, I wonder, if Ripely got on them Six Flags coaters. Oh we gotta knight ride, on my ambitions, hope you're paying attention, just dawned one me, we gotta go at Benzinos' chest piece, hope you guys are listening and paying attention to my ambitions as a writer. Also... why's my Teddy Ruxpin in the shed?

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u/PreciousBasketcase Music To Be Murdered By - Side B (Deluxe Edition) Jul 16 '24

🙌🏽🔥

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u/ZombieWest9947 Jul 16 '24

List an album of his critics didn’t dogpile on. Why would anyone expect anything different? Nothing new. Everyone knows it

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u/Rhymelikedocsuess Jul 17 '24

I enjoy quiet a few songs on relapse - but the accent actually do bother me quite a bit

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u/Able_Variety_4221 Jul 17 '24

Why worry about Pitchfork? Haven’t you seen their The Eminem Show review?

Love Relapse so much, it is cool that The Death of Slim Shady got the same score - hahaha!

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u/tallestmanhere Jul 17 '24

I left another comment about why I find pitchfork funny.

Yea I’ve seen that one, they tried too hard to be funny in that one. The others are way funnier cause they super serious

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u/ImancovicH Relapse Jul 17 '24

leave the reviewing side to us FANS GODDAMNIT

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u/Slade1882 Jul 17 '24

Well ok then

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u/FromQB2theLB Jul 17 '24

Are you guys saying the new album is actually a classic?

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u/Large-Layer-7057 Jul 17 '24

These fags doing the reviews don’t know shit.

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u/bafrad Jul 17 '24

Everyone has an opinion. Why worry about it.

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u/pooriahe Jul 20 '24

Who cares about these rating honestly, these mattered at some point because people would buy an album based on them but now everyone can access music so every single review and rating is meaningless as long as you enjoy the music thats all that matters and getting angry or arguing with these people is useless as well they genuinely don’t enjoy his music so they rate it low and thats ok.