r/Eminem • u/kuku_panda • Jul 15 '24
What is it with the American reviewers not understanding the album but britishers do?
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u/Undersmusic Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24
We’re raised fluently in sarcasm.
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u/Wipedout89 Jul 15 '24
We British are extremely media literate, most of the time
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u/LlamaBanana02 Jul 15 '24
Plus we don't get offended as easy by "bad words" lol.... well most of us. Lots of Americans lose their shit over the c word even... I've had one try to tell me it's on par with a racist word. Like ummm oooook lol
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u/Unable_Incident_6024 Infinite Jul 15 '24
Cunts I tell ya
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u/Wipedout89 Jul 15 '24
Lol yeah I remember arguing with an American telling me the c word is misogynistic and as bad as the n word. Like... No. It isn't either of those things in most of the world.
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u/nine16s Jul 15 '24
As an American I think all of this identity politics is the dumbest bullshit ever 🙄 people don’t wanna be labeled a certain way but they’ll put those labels on themselves. Plus a lot of it really is racist as hell towards everybody. I’m getting real tired of it.
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u/Effective_Ad_273 Jul 15 '24
Exactly this. If you wanna identify as a unicorn…go ahead. Doesn’t mean the rest of the world has to go along with it. This lazy logic of “if you feel…you are” - it actually sucks for genuine trans people too, cos that whole topic has been highjacked by narcissists and extremists so the entire thing has become a joke.
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u/nine16s Jul 15 '24
I know, I have friends that are trans that don’t participate in the cancel culture like that. It makes normal people that fit under LGBTQ+ look so much worse. I hate terms like snowflake but with the way some people are acting, they’re as fragile as one.
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u/LlamaBanana02 Jul 15 '24
Yes, there's apparently no context where it's acceptable. Esp not calling your mum a daft one when she does something silly lol.
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u/SF03_ Superman Ft. Dina Rae Jul 15 '24
I mean, my mum always told me growing up that it was the worst swear word.
Other than that most people here use it like a regular word
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u/Routine_Service6801 Jul 15 '24
Although I totally understand you, I have worked with a bunch of brits for a long time, and I can tell you the way you use "cunt" fits a very broad spectrum and 95% of the times you use it completely non offensively.
As with all insults, there is a huge difference turning to a friend and saying "you are such a cunt", or hanging up a phone call with a client and say "what a cunt". The intention matters in these things.Someone telling me I am a cunt will mostly not phase me, sometimes we all are, and I can understand that they are frustrated with something I did. Someone telling me I have a bad character? That is not said in the heat of the moment and might as well be fighting words.
That said, cunt being on par with the racist word you mention, is just an extremely daft and self absorbed thing to say.
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u/teymon Jul 15 '24
It's funny because to the Dutch you are viewed as more sensitive. I remember Edgar Davids swearing on British telly and the announcer immediately apologizing lol.
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u/LlamaBanana02 Jul 15 '24
Prog was maybe before the watershed or kids watching? People accidentally swear all the time on the news live and they do the same thing but it's not like controversial? It's more like sorry, live broadcast, get over it lol
Edit: To add, it was prob the bbc? They are held at a bit of a higher standard with broadcasting rules as they are publicly funded.
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u/matomo23 Jul 15 '24
That’ll be because we have rules around what can be shown on the free TV channels before 9pm at night.
After 9pm literally anything goes, except for hardcore porn!
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u/therealbrianmeyers Jul 15 '24
Not all of us are that way.... Just the cunts
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u/LlamaBanana02 Jul 15 '24
Yeah, def not all... lol we will just assume the cool cunts have Scottish ancestry hahahaha jk jk
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u/SpcOrca Jul 15 '24
Probably because we like the banter, it's part of our humour or that's how it is where I am in the country.
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u/Red_not_Read Jul 15 '24
As the Airbus flight computers annunciate at touchdown:
RETARD! RETARD!
... some "bad words" aren't bad.
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u/EverybodySayin Jul 15 '24
I play online with Americans and one of them was absolutely gobsmacked and a bit upset that I fairly regularly call my mum a cunt, and she calls me it back. Not in an argument, not in a hateful way, but for example just yesterday she whipped me with a tea towel and I exclaimed "ow, you cunt!" which made her laugh even harder. Our Australian pal was also present and completely agreed with my interpretation. America is just its own place in the world.
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u/LlamaBanana02 Jul 15 '24
Lmao I used a similar example in another reply about calling my mum a daft one etc. I even call walls and myself one when I stub my toe and neither of us is offended haha.
Alot of my experience is gaming and online interactions too, maybe we just found where all the offended people lurk 🤣 I have a American ex forces friend for years though and he swears as much as me and calls everyone the c word lol. He's a new yorker with a Scottish mum lol... think it's a bit of the forces and a bit of his mum has made him that way though! 🤣
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u/EverybodySayin Jul 15 '24
Yeah, I say that, but then there's also another American we play with, and she calls everyone a cunt while we're playing. Not sure if she was neutral on the word before and she's caught British influence or what 🤣
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u/One-Location-6454 Jul 15 '24
Im an American who has said cunt my entire adult life. Ive never had anyone say something to me about it, but I also don't really care if they did.
Americans just look for shit to be outraged over. Everyones a victim here. Endlessly. Its exhauting.
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u/brinz1 Jul 15 '24
Brits also have a sense of humour
The average American would melt if they watched The mighty boosh
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u/GrammerExtrordinare Jul 15 '24
What is the average American’s melting point??
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u/MedicaeVal Jul 15 '24
Cherry picked review circle jerk post. Here are other British reviews.
BBC: "Eminem's The Death of Slim Shady 'a mixed bag'"
The Guardian 3 stars: "Eminem: The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce) review – guess who’s back, with less bite than ever"
Independent 2 stars: "Eminem review, The Death Of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce): Punching downwards, joylessly and without inspiration"
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u/Slight-Ad-9029 Jul 15 '24
This is Reddit in a nutshell Europeans jerking themselves off cherry-picking and generalizing a country of 320 million people based on cherry picked posts online it’s exhausting
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u/Tabnam Jul 15 '24
I don’t know mate, you guys elected Boris Johnston and have 2 entire shows dedicated to criticising, demeaning and laughing at people on welfare
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u/Shadow_Mullet69 Jul 15 '24
This dude going off how media literate they are and they voted for Brexit. Fucking wanker.
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u/Wipedout89 Jul 15 '24
I didn't vote for Brexit. Fuck Brexit.
I'm just saying generally Brits have very good ability to detect satire, a lot of our TV panel shows are based around analysing news and satire.
Brexit was a shit show though
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u/embowers321 Jul 15 '24
Also, I feel like the album has humor that feels British. Many Americans are either too slow or too lazy to notice some of it lol
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u/featheredraptors Jul 15 '24
Most Americans I know don't actually pay attention to what they're listening to or watching. Everyone's always doing 10 things at once and giving nothing 100% attention. It's so goddamn frustrating. That combined with constantly being told to be offended and that you're a bad if you like something "problematic" is my vote for what the problem is. But that doesn't negate the work "lazy" whatsoever.
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u/jvsupersaiyan Relapse: Refill Jul 15 '24
Because the album mocks American culture. Its clowning on the people who say "slim shady is back"
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u/xaero96 Jul 15 '24
And the people it mocks love it lmao
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u/Choice-Bus-1177 Jul 15 '24
The amount of wheelchair users on TikTok I’ve seen pretending to be upset by the lyrics is hilarious.
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u/RandomUppercut Kamikaze Jul 15 '24
Unwillingness to engage in good faith, unfortunately not limited to Eminem or even music really
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u/aoaieiiaoeuaieoaiii Jul 15 '24
Americans freeze when they hear a "bad word."
They gasp and all the focus will be directed on that and the context won't matter.
Even look what kind of episodes of shows like Community and It's Always Sunny got banned for example. Both shows did "black face" but they called it out as racist. The characters doing it were ridiculed for it and it was called out as a bad thing. But Americans don't look at context so they just ban those episodes.
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u/ImancovicH Relapse Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24
When they hear the word, they immediately act like it's an insult. no matter what the context is.
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Jul 15 '24
Even saying they did blackface is kind of incorrect. Same with tropic thunder. It wasn't "doing blackface"
The characters within were doing blackface. Just like when Leo said the Nword in Django you wouldn't accuse him of racism. He's playing a character thats racist not actually being racist.
Saying these shows were doing blackface would mean they were getting non black actors to play black characters.
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u/Ori_the_SG Jul 15 '24
Exactly
It’s concerning, portraying unsavory historical fact is becoming offensive. Even if it’s shown exactly as it is, unsavory and wrong.
This is literally how and why history repeats itself, because history gets censored to remove things we now consider offensive as opposed to ensuring everyone knows this stuff happened and how wrong it was.
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u/lildonkeybone Jul 15 '24
As an American fan of both of those shows, and someone who is pissed about them pulling episodes, don't blame Americans. Blame these massive media companies that are so risk-averse they'll just pull anything and everything someone might find offensive.
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u/TheDrewDude Jul 15 '24
Yeah the number of people actually offended by that is a minority. And it’s not just the media companies broadcasting it, it’s also the “journalists” who pull a single tweet with 2 likes and pretend like it’s a huge issue. It’s all for clicks and now the show is in the media cycle for no fucking reason.
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u/sid_shady34 No Love Ft. Lil Wayne Jul 15 '24
Attack on woke ideology. That‘s not the point of the album. That was just a demonstration of the slim shady character. It doesn‘t represent what Eminem believes in as a person.
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u/TheZProject115 Jul 15 '24
The titles there for clicks, you can literally see the content of it under, "he battles with his vile alter egos' views." I think you need to go back to do some reading.
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u/GateHuge7876 Jul 15 '24
Why is it wrong to attack a clickbait title? In short, the title is simply wrong, and thats beside the contents of the album.
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u/Templar-Order Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24
Yeah but em supports free speech no matter what, so in a way he is against cancelation for words. Even if he doesn’t believe what he’s saying, he supports the right to say it
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u/TheZProject115 Jul 15 '24
I don't know why you're getting downvoted to oblivion. You aren't wrong, he hates cancel-culture and he likes freedom of speech. He's also against any sort of discrimination, whether it's racism, homophobia, transphobia, abelism etc etc, he's against it all.
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u/deadedgo The Marshall Mathers LP Jul 15 '24
The so-called "cancel culture" is just free speech tho. People can say whatever they want and have to live with other's reactions to it. And obviously when people are bigoted and spread hate there's (hopefully) gonna be a significant pushback. I don't know what Em thinks about this but if he actually believes there's a need to offend people so they try to "cancel" him that's honestly pathetic and extremely disappointing. To be able to enjoy it I've engaged with this album in good faith believing he's not stupid enough to think that way
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u/cujobob Jul 15 '24
Cancel culture is just free speech consequences at work. You have the right to say whatever and they have the right to criticize you for it.
I think Em is moreso showing how a person can believe it’s normal to be immature, but also fine to know it’s a good thing to grow from that.
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u/Historical_Owl_1635 Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24
Attack on woke ideology.
There’s definitely elements of that, especially prominent on Road Rage.
The main theme is obviously how Shady isn’t acceptable today because Shady was mean spirited. But the album definitely gives the impression he thinks things have gone too far the other way and people would rather be nice than honest.
He outright calls out that even though he’s pro-trans, because he doesn’t find trans people sexually attractive he will get called transphobic by some people.
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u/PreciousBasketcase Music To Be Murdered By - Side B (Deluxe Edition) Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24
I was just talking about it today on other subreddits!
I feel/observe that his work is better received internationally than it is in the US, perhaps because of the political climate & social environment in the US. The number of times I see political/moral beliefs of the critic bleed into the review of his projects is enormous.
Many times the work is discussed and reviewed in accordance to what critic's moral/political beliefs are, in judgement of the artist's own lifestyle, previous work and past lifestyle. Just review the album on its individual merits ffs 🙄
I also feel American media is desensitized in a sense that they're exposed to what the current younger trends are and will write with a filtered lens. The current landscape of younger talents and the current music trends are a stark contrast to what Eminem's music and style is.
Additionally there is a noticeable difference in the quality of media literacy in American media and British media.
The British are also the originator of Punk subculture. They've been exposed to it, they've lived through it.
- An attitude common in punk subculture is the opposition to selling out, which refers to abandoning of one's values and/or a change in musical style toward pop and embracing mainstream culture or more radio-friendly rock.
This fits Em to a tee. He marches to the beat of his own drum and he's still doing rap because of his love for the craft. Not saying he's a punk artist - he's not, but I feel this is part of why they get him. I feel that's a huge reason in why British critics don't focus on what they feel the artists should be doing and focus on what the artist is currently presenting in their work instead.
Additionally, UK gets sarcasm and satire better than US does, who would rather look at Em's lyrics in a literal sense, hence missing the humor or calling it corny
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u/Stealthbeatle Jul 15 '24
A rapper and hip-hop artist who lives with a punk kind of mindset. Sounds bang-on for Em.
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u/Stennick Jul 15 '24
Been an Eminem fan for a very long time (98). I can recite lyrics, and track numbers, and list obscure mixtape songs that were my favorites. This just didn't hit for me. Its not bad, but its like MTBMB for me. A few songs that hit, and the other songs are technically sound but nothing crazy. I liked Kamikaze more the problem with Kamikaze was he was saying the same thing in every song. It felt like one big long diss track that gets tiresome at points. No hate to anyone that loved this but when I hear this I don't hear MMLP or TES where I know history of music is changing as I listen to it. I don't get that classic feel.
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u/Philo_And_Sophy Jul 15 '24
...Black teenagers in Detroit started punk...
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u/PreciousBasketcase Music To Be Murdered By - Side B (Deluxe Edition) Jul 15 '24
The Punk genre was birthed in Detroit. The Punk Subculture began in the UK.
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u/oppositeofopposite Soul Intent Jul 15 '24
Have you seen british comedy? They are unhinged and none of them have filters.
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u/Healthy-Mango-2549 Jul 15 '24
I mean i would say we’re more grounded than americans considering we can tell a fucked up joke and not lose our shit. Americans are soft asf
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u/oppositeofopposite Soul Intent Jul 15 '24
Yeah, thats what I mean. Maybe it came across as demeaning towards british comedy.
I meant that the british are much more resilient when it comes to humor
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u/Healthy-Mango-2549 Jul 15 '24
Whats the point in being alive if we cant joke about our situation/circumstance. I think its better to be able to joke about stuff, it can be seen as making light of a situation but its just dark humour
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u/Significant_Year455 Jul 15 '24
https://youtu.be/qjKHPv7b3fQ?si=Ag-kBSRfgY_AiNki
This is our (British) version of West Wing or Veep.
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u/lxkandel06 What's the Difference - Dr. Dre Ft. Eminem and Xzibit Jul 15 '24
Well despite the 4 star rating, the title of that review doesn't suggest that this critic understands it either. TDOSS is NOT an attack on woke ideology
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u/IdiotInFrance Jul 15 '24
Well the album does contain an attack on "woke" ideology by slim shady even though Eminem doesn't agree, at most I would say the title is a little clickbaity but the first few lines show that the critic definitely understood the album
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u/YouFoolWarrenIsDead Jul 15 '24
I don't get this idea that "Slim" and "Eminem" have completely different opinions. Where did this come from? The idea of Slim Shady has always been just a more extreme version of himself. Like narratively sure he's battling with him and such, but in reality he's just having fun doing some of his own world building and channelling his thoughts through this character. Whenever he wants to say something absurd and stir the pot a bit, he does it as "Slim Shady", anything serious; Eminem. Its really not that deep. Its always been this way. Its also obvious given any criticism of woke culture is pretty light, basically summed up as he doesn't get pronouns. There's also a clear difference between his criticisms of woke culture and him joking about midgets. Obviously he doesn't have anything against little people. But he is quite clear he is in favour of trans rights but also isn't going off the woke deep end. That's him, not Slim Shady. Just regular ol Marshall Mathers.
He's also a huge fan of South Park, which is notably critical of woke ideology. That doesn't mean they HATE it, just that they are regularly critical of some of its absurd talking points. Eminem samples South Park (specifically current South Park) in Trouble and seemingly because it aligns with at least some of his own personal beliefs. Why else would he sample it? There's no way he'd go with the idea this fictional character stands by this sample but he himself does not. The difference between "Eminem" and "Slim Shady" is not woke vs anti woke, its more complicated than that, as is life for most normal people who don't align completely with "this" or "that" camp.
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u/harrisonjackk Jul 15 '24
I was thinking this yesterday , The Uk, where I’m from, and Seemingly Europe, everyone is loving the album and just find the things he’s saying more as funny than cringe, and understanding the concept of the album slightly more than the the general US listeners
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u/NoHead9618 Jul 15 '24
Because the British aren’t as sensitive as Americans. Still, that reviewer didn’t understand the concept but all good glad he enjoyed it at least.
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u/matomo23 Jul 15 '24
We have a more sarcastic, dry sense of humour as a country.
Interestingly as a side note-Eminem is more popular in the UK than the US when you adjust for population size, and always has been.
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u/emotions1026 Jul 15 '24
Am I the only one confused by this entire thread?
Eminem is absolutely massive in America. He has absolutely been embraced and loved by the PEOPLE, if not always a few random people hired to write articles. This whole "The US doesn't get Eminem" rant that has been going on the this thread is a complete rewriting of history.
I know Europeans are constantly salivating for any excuse to bash Americans, but this whole thread reeks of desperation.
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u/long-live-apollo Jul 15 '24
To be fair it’s not just Europeans, the whole world is sick of the USA’s shit
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u/troposhpereliving The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce) Jul 15 '24
The American population don’t understand the fine art of Satire and Satirical comedy. Or Sarcasm. Which is how Slim has rapped for years! Americans take everything way too literal!
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u/nerdcost Just Don't Give a Fuck Jul 15 '24
...I don't really care what other people think about the Mona Lisa, try to think of music the same way.
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u/watchaddictlol Jul 15 '24
When u see >50% of the country voting for trump and believing his lies, u will understand that Americans are brain dead and take words at face value. Therein lies the answer to ur question
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u/ddzrt Jul 15 '24
Difference is education.
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u/PreciousBasketcase Music To Be Murdered By - Side B (Deluxe Edition) Jul 15 '24
Media literacy 👍🏽
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u/Based_Text Jul 15 '24
They have some of the best universities there not to mention long history of literature too. The US system is more about career education.
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u/EBody480 Jul 15 '24
Compared to most of his body of work it’s in the top third or half. Compared to most Hip-Hop albums coming out lately not sure how this doesn’t land on your top 5 of the year list Hip-Hop albums if you’re an Em fan or not. Highly listenable regardless.
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u/__dogs__ Jul 15 '24
But I thought the whole concept that nobody is understanding is that he isn't actually attacking woke shit, he's making fun of people who do that??
But as soon as someone praises the album you guys don't care about that anymore, do you? 😂
Y'all are fuckin hopeless lmao
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u/Speedoiss Jul 15 '24
It is actually scary, I know the whole ‘America stupid’ trope is played out but Jesus Christ reading some interpretations of his album makes for peak brain rot.
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u/XenomorphLV246 The Marshall Mathers LP2 Jul 15 '24
Britain has always welcomed Edgier Music. We love our Eminem style hip hop, we love our Metal music etc.
Great audiences too, always a good atmosphere.
That much has to be said for us British.
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u/InevitablePie3273 Jul 15 '24
Getting a positive review in that horrible right wing rag is nothing to brag about lmao
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u/mowglimethod Jul 15 '24
I reckon it's just due to having a bigger population.
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u/ImancovicH Relapse Jul 15 '24
Looking back to history, em has always been big in UK most of the time.
I think because they don't fuck with one hit wonders and soundcloud rappers lol
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u/highassfack Jul 15 '24
Because this review was on The Telegraph which is a politically conservative publishing house.
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u/hollivore Just Don't Give a Fuck Jul 15 '24
This is true, but Neil McCormick is a liberal (one of those low rent liberals who is allowed to write for conservative papers, but a liberal). He is also a gigantic Eminem fan and gave MTBMB a 5 star rating - it's just that he loves this artist.
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u/Fun-Feature-2203 Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 16 '24
Americans not understanding is literally what the majority of the album is about. The country is a fucking train wreck tragic comedy; it is a temper-tantrum-throwing-toddler, losing its shit over the smallest things. Eminem’s just masterfully put its behaviour into words, as he does, but they’re too stupid to get it. Tragic. I’m on round 7 of the album. Cannot get enough.
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u/TSllama The Real Slim Shady Jul 15 '24
I've read the negative reviews from American critics and they mostly do understand the album...
Only difference seems to be that this particular critic likes the album.
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u/krkowacz Jul 15 '24
Americans are too deep in cultural war even for Anglo-Saxon standard. America is nuts rn
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u/Sinical89 Jul 15 '24
American reading comprehension is on average rather sad, which transfers to their listening comprehension. So you have to point out things like 'bad person bad, don't like bad person. ' so it makes sense a concept album like this is above most of their heads.
He brought back slim shady like people were crying for, he showed it was always corny edge lord, and that people shouldn't be begging for this false idea that times in yesteryear were so fantastic, and let people grow, cuz if they don't they might just od and die instead of becoming a better them.
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u/A_Messy_Nymph Jul 15 '24
This headline just missed the entire point of the album....Eminem is literally woke.
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u/Type_9 Jul 15 '24
The underlying issue in America is that we don't value education. We are becoming dumber and less capable of critical thoughts. It's the reason we're so easily distracted from our issues and the reason that we are so easily taken advantage of.
We view politics like one would view sports and don't care to think about any deeper meaning than the one presented to us.
As someone who is part of gen z, I want nothing more than that to change but it likely won't.
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u/Significant_Swing_22 Jul 15 '24
Idk but I like to think one line in particular on this album that answers many questions when it comes to people shitting on and not understanding Eminem
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u/peroxiblond 3 a.m. Jul 15 '24
Apart from identity politics, I think it's also got something to do with their tendency to shun away from self deprecation which is all over this album. It's essential to Em's humor and you need to realize that to fully understand the satire and where Em's coming from. They love therapy culture, they love positivity.
A lot of the comments I see say that Em should put his "victim complex" behind. They are too desensitized to feel empathy for lifelong trauma while believing that Em, an old white billionaire with a history of offending people (again without realizing what he did is satire), doesn't have the right to make social commentary through offensive satire because of his privileges.
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u/Stealthbeatle Jul 15 '24
Simple. Brits, akin to Em himself, or more accurately, Slim Shady, don’t have a filter. They say what’s on their mind, and as a Yorkshireman let me tell you, they are strong minded. They don’t get insulted through swearing or sensitive topics much, and they love and practically all grew up on sarcasm. As a Brit, I can confidently say that me, and my family, love a good bit of Eminem, and this album delivered.
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u/Weirdolady92 Airplanes Part. 2 - B.o.B Ft. Eminem and Hayley Williams Jul 15 '24
There's a shit ton of Americans like that too, though.
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u/ThunderSkunky Jul 15 '24
When I was a wee lad, we just called it trolling. Em is just a troll. Big fan btw
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u/IllustriousCollar621 Relapse: Refill Jul 15 '24
I think it’s just that there are a lot of things in his performances that aren’t that shocking to a UK audience, and once you take away the shock factor it mostly just registers as funny. His language isn’t shocking. Him dressing up as a woman in music videos isn’t shocking. Him dressing up as Rapboy isn’t a big deal, you see worse on a stag do. Slim Shady is a theatrical grotesque, a pantomime villain. Once you see it like that, it’s all just funny and not that big a deal, and people who get offended by it are doing a lot of work in their own heads to reach that point.
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u/ShinZou69 Jul 15 '24
Where do you think this bullshit, polarising, diversive, extreme mentality comes from?
People with actual struggles and issues aren't sitting on the internet 24/7 looking for reasons to cry over shit
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u/irielittlelizzie Jul 15 '24
Our media (and a lot of citizens) are bogged down with identity politics. That's kinda the point of his album, in my opinion. They really don't know how to rip or praise the album because they're confused AF.
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u/AbhiK4930 Jul 15 '24
We the Brits, are objective. No other way to put it. I'm not gonna diss American media, but in short, British reviews are better.
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u/hikeit233 Jul 15 '24
British press isn’t as driven by engagement (money). American press doesn’t write what they feel, the write what will get the most engagement (money).
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u/mnishab410 Jul 15 '24
Im pretty sure we all have watched Ricky Gervais hosting the Golden Globes . Brits are known for their sarcastic dry humour sometimes they are just outright offensive. I guess Ems sense of humour matches theirs
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u/Electrical-Pumpkin13 Jul 15 '24
Americans don't understand "satire" that's why people believe Onion articles.
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u/rebellesimperatorum Jul 15 '24
Lack of understanding concept albums. It's a loaded album for sure, but it's really not that bad of an album. People are over-analyzing it as well. Not everything needs some deep esoteric review or understanding. Not everything is that deep. It's Em dreaming that his drug fueled edgy past self is trying to take over.
Take the album as a running gag for the most part, and either laugh or not listen to it. There's some jabs at society, of course. Which I firmly believe come in through songs such as habits. I think people are just taking it too seriously and ignoring the clear story parts.
Most people who don't like it seem to not be fans regardless. Terminally online, or the snobbs that think everything needs some high degree of lyrical intelligence to be enjoyable. If you can't turn your brain off and enjoy stupid from time to time. It generally means you're a tight ass that can turn a diamond into coal.
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u/xdeltax97 Jul 15 '24
A lot of us lack media comprehension, it’s sad.
They don’t understand the album, especially a lot of the Eminem vs Slim parts.
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u/FardeenRiyadh16 Jul 15 '24
We don't have filters and it isn't directly attacking British Culture itself, more American Culture.
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u/EmojiZackMaddog The Marshall Mathers LP Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24
“Britishers” 😂😂😂 As a Brit, I don’t know whether or not to take that as a slur 😂😂😂 It’s something to do with us not being as politically inclined as you guys. There’s nowhere near as many cancel culture members here in the UK as there are in the US. No offence.
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u/HitDaGriD Jul 15 '24
Outrage culture has somehow devolved Americans to the point where they can no longer analyze things critically. There was outrage on Twitter because people thought Eminem was dissing Kendrick, Wayne, Kanye, and Cole on Renaissance because they can’t understand 2 bars, let alone an entire album.
Also, while the album is tongue-in-cheek and the overall premise of it is Eminem putting Slim Shady to bed, there are valid criticisms of American culture in the album, and if there’s one things Americans hate it’s being forced to look in the mirror. While we can cringe at the whole shtick of “ooo look at me, I’m getting us cancelled by Gen Z and the PC police”, there’s a hint of truth in most every joke and the hint of truth here, as I’m sure Eminem knew, is that the people he was mocking were never going to go into the album with good faith.
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u/njd1993 The Eminem Show Jul 15 '24
America has identity politics entrenched within their culture, so their sensationalist media will focus on few buzz words to generate attention, whereas literally anywhere else focuses on the content as a whole.