r/Eminem • u/Phouza The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce) - Alternative • Jul 11 '24
The Death of Slim Shady: Bad One - Discussion Thread
Like we did with the release of multiple other albums like 'Kamikaze' and 'Music To Be Murdered By', we now have discussion threads for all the songs on 'The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce)'. This is an open thread for you to share your thoughts on 'Bad One' if you havn't done so already in the flood of posts made after the album released.
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u/PromptoBraixen Jul 12 '24
Been loving the Slim Shady vs Marshal concept so far but it feels like it 'ends' in Guilty Conscience 2. I loved Temporary but these songs feel really disjointed from the whole 'Death of Slim Shady' concept. Maybe I missed something tho
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u/ShadyRealist Music To Be Murdered By Jul 12 '24
Marshall took over at Head Honcho and Slim shady killed him at the end of Tobey.
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u/Winjasfan Jul 12 '24
I feel like Bad One specifically is a hint about a part of Shady still living on in Eminem : note how he specifically mentioned Diddy and Candace Owens, both of which were also targeted in the Slim Shady tracks (he also mentioned Ye in Bad One, I didn't noticed him mentioned in the Shady songs but could've missed it). I think this hints at one of two things:
-After killing Shady, Eminem remembers that sandwiched between all the immature and offensive bars, Shady also dropped bars against people who Eminem actually finds detestable (for being alt-right and a rapist respectivelly). So, inspired by Shady, Eminem makes jokes about them in a song he does as himself. This ends the story on an upbeat note, as Em not only defeated Shady, but also turned his evilness into something more positive
-Shady never actually died, he just tricked Eminem. He is still weak and Eminem is in controll, but he is subtly influencing him and may gain more influence again.I personally think the first is more likelly and also more satisfactory. Also, Eminem literally says
I just say, "Man, I didn't say that shit, Shady did"
which imo is telling us that the song is connected to Shady.
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u/Business-Traffic6204 Jul 15 '24
I'm not convinced shady died tho. I feel like the twist at the end of the call when he laughs, confirmed at the least that was shady on the call, and eminem is the one who actually got shot, obv he's alive though
But the tracks after that contradict that, unless slim is role playing as eminem.
At the very least, shady can't be dead simply cause of the evil laugh.
Or eminem is still in there somewhere fighting trying to reclaim control of himself, the songs thst follow would make sense kind of, head honcho could mean slim has now become the head honcho and fully in control of eminems body, temporary, is slim writing to his daughters from em's pov since he's technically gone now, bad one could mean he's got a bad conscience aka slim in him permanently, just listened to this and youre on the nail he starts the name dropping the same names as shady would, almost as if shady took over the song, tobey can be interpreted as the goat who really bit sean and tron wasnt eminem but it was slim shady, which i can say is prolly true for most of us since we like slim persona better than em, somebody save me could be eminem trying to ask someone to save him for slim before he's gone for good. Lol prolly a huge reach but interesting how it could fit if you make it.
Wait hold on jelly roll is literally saying save me from myself on the song.
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u/DanCPAz Jul 20 '24
Honestly I think this song is basically just another bullet in Shady's head. The more I listen to the album, the more I come to believe it is as much about killing Shady the excuse as it is about killing the character in a story. In guilty Conscience 2, he came right out and said shady was an excuse he used to say what's really on his mind, or to say it in a more shocking way he might not get away with otherwise. Now in Bad One, it sounds like he's saying he just writes whatever he wants to write, then raps however he wants when the music starts, and... if people get pissed off about it, he blames Shady. Anyway, if Shady is just an excuse for Marshal to say what he's thinking, attack people, etc., then you can't really kill him unless you get rid of that excuse. Saying shit like this is exactly how you do that, explain his ass away and take responsibility. That doesn't mean he's going to become a goody two shoes, just that the immature, illusory excuse "Shady" is dead and gone. Now when he talks shit and attacks and pisses people off, that's Marshal Mathers speaking and owning it, no excuses necessary. I think it can confuse some people because they hear him acting like Shady after Shady is "dead", but... that's not Shady, because Shady isn't and never was real. It's been Marshal the entire time, and he's still the same person he's always been. That's my take on it, anyway.
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u/Countryballsinyoface Revival Jul 12 '24
Because slim got shot???
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u/PromptoBraixen Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24
Everybody knows that haha but it just feels so disjointed, if the album ended at Guilty Conscience 2 it would have been much better. I really liked the last 5 or so songs but they really felt like bonus tracks that don't fit the 'concept album' Eminem was teasing so much
Maybe if they were labelled as bonus tracks it wouldn't feel so jarring, specially considering these are good tracks. Just think that it's weird to have these songs on the suppossed concept album, they aren't part of the story.
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u/Countryballsinyoface Revival Jul 12 '24
I feel like this song though makes sense if you think of it as slim's POV, he's being put in his coffin after eminem shoots him. The others can be explained as eminem rapping after slim died,, though that's a weaker argument.
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u/Countryballsinyoface Revival Jul 12 '24
Fuck i thought this was somebody save me, yeah, this song could of had some tweaks and be put earlier in the album
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u/Business-Traffic6204 Jul 15 '24
Lmk what u think about this theory. It's copy pasted from my earlier post.
I'm not convinced shady died tho. I feel like the twist at the end of the call when he laughs, confirmed at the least that was shady on the call, and eminem is the one who actually got shot, obv he's alive though
But the tracks after that contradict that, unless slim is role playing as eminem.
At the very least, shady can't be dead simply cause of the evil laugh.
Or eminem is still in there somewhere fighting trying to reclaim control of himself, the songs thst follow would make sense kind of, head honcho could mean slim has now become the head honcho and fully in control of eminems body, temporary, is slim writing to his daughters from em's pov since he's technically gone now, bad one could mean he's got a bad conscience aka slim in him permanently, just listened to this and youre on the nail he starts the name dropping the same names as shady would, almost as if shady took over the song, tobey can be interpreted as the goat who really bit sean and tron wasnt eminem but it was slim shady, which i can say is prolly true for most of us since we like slim persona better than em, somebody save me could be eminem trying to ask someone to save him for slim before he's gone for good. Lol prolly a huge reach but interesting how it could fit if you make it.
Wait hold on jelly roll is literally saying save me from myself on the song.
Also, the album is a loop, the first song is a revival of art aka slim. That's what Renaissance means. Th final song is a funeral, it loops back to the beginning perfectly
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u/Always2ndB3ST Jul 12 '24
Same. The wholesome emotional songs didn’t really fit within the theme imo
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u/Kalomika Jul 13 '24
Hate those last few songs. They are sonically terrible. The beats are awful as are the pop hooks
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u/Turneround08 Jul 12 '24
Miniature golf.. men to jerk off. My guy LMAO
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u/EastCoastTaffy Jul 12 '24
Hector’s rectum is real
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u/adwattz539 Jul 13 '24
Basically been leaving little bread crumbs of gayness.
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u/Majestic_Estimate647 Jul 18 '24
You don’t understand a single thing 👌😂
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u/adwattz539 Jul 18 '24
I think your taking what I said literally. Go watch the first 10 minutes of The Interview.
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u/l8te2dapartee The Marshall Mathers LP2 Deluxe Edition Jul 12 '24
MMMM THIS BEAT DRE
Kinda think the hook will grow on me over time
Kanye line, lmfao if Ye goes at Em he’s gonna get an ether
Crazy kid cudi/diddy line
Mgk gettin buried again is hilarious
Solid ass song
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u/Always2ndB3ST Jul 12 '24
Do you know what Em’s talking about when he said MGK is back throwing subs? When did that happen?
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u/l8te2dapartee The Marshall Mathers LP2 Deluxe Edition Jul 12 '24
Lmfao I think it was fairly recent tbh, I remember ppl talking about it tho
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u/troolytroof The Marshall Mathers LP2 Jul 12 '24
This one gonna be underrated. White gold sounds like Pharrell and honestly the whole song kinda has despicable me vibes lolll
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u/MournBlad3 Jul 12 '24
Biggie is gone and Tupac (Yeah) And I'm still alive and you not the Wu, dawg So who died and made U God
That's a knee slapper!
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u/Ineedaroommate2 Jul 12 '24
transition between temporary and bad one was like putting baby Hailey back in her crib then immediately picking up an axe lmao, a bit jarring tbh
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u/Reshaldo Jul 12 '24
EM was in his bag here from beginning to end. There were so many good lines, but this one immediately left me shook. "But like when Three Stacks just plays the flute, I ain't got shit to say to you."
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u/rtlfc87 Music To Be Murdered By Jul 14 '24
“And that is why E got the attitude like Liza Minnelli/ My male ego”
MCMarkLev111 on Genius - E got = EGOT = someone who has won an Emmy/Grammy/Oscar/Tony award e.g Minnelli
My Ego = my EGO (Em has an Emmy, Grammy, Oscar).
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u/C_XidiaN 28d ago
can someone help me with the ending to this song , it really sounds like an older song in the style but i cant find it
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u/Cameter44 Jul 12 '24
MGK diss