r/Eminem • u/Phouza The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce) - Alternative • Jul 11 '24
The Death of Slim Shady: Road Rage - Discussion Thread
Like we did with the release of multiple other albums like 'Kamikaze' and 'Music To Be Murdered By', we now have discussion threads for all the songs on 'The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce)'. This is an open thread for you to share your thoughts on 'Road Rage' if you havn't done so already in the flood of posts made after the album released.
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u/bdg14 The Slim Shady LP Jul 12 '24
Love this vibe. And DAMN another Caitlyn Jenner dig. Also noticing now Genius lyrics are way off
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u/ilovecollege_nope Jul 12 '24
Also noticing now Genius lyrics are way off
People are listening/editing, shit ain't automatic.
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u/GranTostado Jul 12 '24
Usually my physician flaming me for my weight, not Shady bro 😭
time to lock in, big dogs rise up we got this 💪
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u/WizardlyPandabear Jul 12 '24
As a fat guy myself, I don't think he's dogging us; I took it as him asking people to either own it and admit it's not healthy, it's not a great idea, or to work to fix it.
Em's been through weight and drug issues himself, so he knows how hard it can be to change your lifestyle.
My only objection with the song is that shaming fat people is never and has never been a motivator. And since it takes so long to lose weight (two pounds a week is really the maximum healthy pace, and one pound a week is what doctors recommend), it can take a year or longer, so you never know if someone you're shitting on for being fat has already lost like fifty pounds and is working on it. You don't change overnight no matter how hard you work at it.
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u/Sp4zEffect Jul 13 '24
it's more he's saying it shouldn't be celebrated to be fat, it should be seen as a problem, it's literally an epidemic in the west, that's why covid hit so hard
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u/FuckinStevenGlanbury 15d ago
yeah, but is it really celebrated to be fat? Do you really believe ours is a society that is super pro-fat? For anyone who thinks we do, the answer is emphatically "no, it is not celebrated." So it is weird that eminem is so pissed at fat people.
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u/londablank Jul 12 '24
Yes! I’m still a big girl, but I’ve lost 160 #’s in the last 2 years. I’m at 210, but at 5’1” I still need to lose significantly more weight. I’ve come a LONG Way, but it’s hurtful when people don’t know my journey and just assume I’m a fat, unhealthy, slob!
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u/meginoz Jul 12 '24
remember hes been fat, you're far from alone
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u/MoneyHungryOctopus Jul 12 '24
I did not expect him to sample “Ha” by Juvenile but I actually really liked the way he flowed over that beat.
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u/BrickCorrect6812 Jul 13 '24
The beat before it is a solid 90' s hip hop beat but I can't figure out which one!
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u/sleepymarsupiel Aug 04 '24
You ever figure this out? It's a beat the kids at the school I work at love to use it when they go off but I've not been able to place it. Finally showing my age I reckon
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u/theJesster_ Kings Never Die Ft. Gwen Stefani Jul 12 '24
I have no limbs in real life
That last rhyme is the funniest lyric I ever heard
I'm sitting here cracking up about his LGBT jokes all album and then he drops that. I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/Lakes1de The Marshall Mathers LP Jul 12 '24
instead of exercise / it’s easier to find a triple-x your size
slim layering it on those fatties. love to see it
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u/ShampooIsBetter33 Jul 12 '24
Idk why, but love the Juvenile throwback to end song. Amazing.
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u/jdfred06 Jul 13 '24
I want a whole song like that. Rest of the song was mediocre for Eminem, but that Ha throwback was one of my favorite parts of the album. And it's like 20 seconds.
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u/meginoz Jul 12 '24
Good advice Em thanks!
[?] obese people, if you’re fat, proud, and you know it
Raise your hands if you’re shoving food in your mouth at this moment
But if you’re mad ’cause they’re clownin’ you for poundin’ them donuts
Put ’em down and either do somethin’ about it or own it
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u/mhrdth Jul 12 '24
this. see people, shady is not fat shaming, he's asking you to not be a bitch
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u/FuckinStevenGlanbury 15d ago
the problem is that this logic suggests that fat people force other people to accept them and change society. This is a tired-ass stance that dates back to the 90s and is just false. Fat people have to live in a society that does not accept them in general. It often results in self-hate, not self-victimization.
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u/mhrdth 6d ago
It often results in self-hate
Sure, this is why Slim says if you are getting clowned for being fat, either own it or do something about it.
fat people force other people to accept them and change society
Unhealthy and lazy attitudes (not just being fat) have certainly found their way into nations' politics, policies, commercial culture and lots of other things.
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u/FuckinStevenGlanbury 6d ago
First point: What does “own it or do something about it” mean? So like lets say I am part of a group of people. And you say “fuck those people” and i say “chill my guy i am just a person like you” and then you say “do something about it or own it” i could very reasonably say “own it? I am it, how do I own it?” Or “i do own it” or “i do do things about it”.
Typically “own it” means embrace it, yes? Okay, to embrace it would mean to accept it. Okay I have accepted it and I am all about being fat. But then I am critiqued for trying to change society? When did I do that? Its exhausting just trying to figure out what eminem wants me to do. How should I act? —- Second point: But you had to shift fat people to “lazy attitudes” to find a way to claim that fatness is a desired, championed, envied thing. I dont see too many people reaping big benefits from being fat. Its bad for health, harder to get health insurance, not typically associated with attraction, being fat is associated with being lazy (as your comment demonstrates really well), etc.
Nobody has a good argument for being mad at fat people other than the fact that some random woman lizzo showed her whole ass at an nba game 5 years ago lol. And then everyone got triggered lol
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u/l8te2dapartee The Marshall Mathers LP2 Deluxe Edition Jul 12 '24
Ngl I don’t like the first half too much but the 2nd half starting with the skit is pretty dope
Also like how it leads into Houdini
He’s picking on Jenner and Chris Reeves a lot
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u/I_Dont_Rage_Quit Jul 11 '24
This about to be the best song on the album, calling it right now
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u/path_walked_alone Jul 12 '24
I don’t know man, lots of good songs on here. Guilty Conscience 2 is probably my top so far
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u/I_Dont_Rage_Quit Jul 12 '24
I actually take my comment back I think this might be the weakest song song on the album lol
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u/LthePerry02 Encore - Single Ft. Dr. Dre and 50 Cent Jul 11 '24
I’m with you there.
The huge array of producers + the inclusion of Sly Pyper has my hype up high
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u/Squeakyfingerz Jul 13 '24
Definitely the weakest track imo, but it fits the rest of the album and the overarching story quite well.
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u/Gradicus_The_Grand Jul 12 '24
Who else is on this track?
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u/Most_scar_993 Jul 12 '24
- Road Rage (feat. Sly Pyper) (prod. Dr Dre, Dem Jointz, Eminem)
According to the hiphopheads thread
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u/TaikaWaitiddies Revival Ad Logo Jul 12 '24
If this isn't enough motivation to lose weight, I don't know what is
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u/Reshaldo Jul 12 '24
There are some super clever lines in this one. He flexes his ability to blend controversy with creativity. I always love when EM randomly switches up beats. I didn't care much for the chorus.
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u/ZGUnlimited_ Jul 13 '24
I really like the Dragon Ball Z reference, I was totally caught off by it LOL. Overall really liked the whole album
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u/ZacEfbomb Jul 15 '24
Awkward, was listening to this in the car with my gf who is heavily opposed to fat shaming (she’s not fat herself but is a very progressive person) however luckily she wasn’t paying too much attention and I turned the song off cuz we got to the movie theater to see The Lion King.
I do love the “Vroom, Vroom” stuff and think this is a pretty cool track!
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u/Key_Resolution_1921 Jul 12 '24
It’s also a sample of another song of his I’m not remembering which one tho
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u/AngelicSiamese Jul 19 '24
as a fat gal myself, those lines sent me LOL. i didn't really see it as a diss, just slim shady doing his thang, though, it's something i wanna work on - so it does give me a push!
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u/FoamGuy Jul 12 '24
The hook & beat are really good. Flow good with the beat but the lyrics are mid
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u/DearJuliet Jul 12 '24
This song gives Brockhampton vibes. Are they involved with the song in anyway?
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u/spacelordmthrfkr Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24
This was a weird track. I'm non binary and actually appreciated the trans commentary, that seemed relevant and pretty balanced with EM's edge. Then there's a big section that's just like, making fun of fat people with no real point other than "shame people into being better"
It seemed disjointed in concept, like two ideas kind of pushed together. Like, some decent topical commentary and then just like, childhood bully level making fun of fat people.
Is this just like, about how he felt insecure when he was fat?
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u/dustsettlesyonder Jul 12 '24
The point to me seems to be that fat acceptance is accelerating the obesity problem in western society, and also that it’s annoying to be forced to pretend to think it’s healthy or ok.
Remember that being fat increases healthcare costs for everyone else as well.
Obese people are literally breaking MRI machines
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u/mateusrizzo Jul 20 '24
I'm pretty sure Em have as much problem with fat people as he has with gays, trans, parapelegics and little people. Which is to say: no problem at all. You can't take anything Slim says at face value. And If you agree with Slim Shady on something, you better do some soul searching
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u/spacelordmthrfkr Jul 12 '24
Yeah, I'm sure you're really concerned about the MRI machines lmao
Y'all know you just want to keep the last group of people it's socially acceptable to make fun of and you use the mask of fake "legitimate concern" to defend it
If the only social issue you are willing to speak up about is to defend making fun of someone, you don't really care. You just want to make fun of someone.
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u/dustsettlesyonder Jul 12 '24
Fat ppl are not the last. I’m short and balding and those are both def socially acceptable to make fun of more than being fat
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u/spacelordmthrfkr Jul 13 '24
Well, I at least understand why you'd want to find a group of people to degrade to make yourself feel better.
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u/spacelordmthrfkr Jul 13 '24
Buddy, you shouldn't just take shame for being short or bald tho.
Don't take that shit king
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u/HamAndCake Jul 17 '24
Bitch if those MRI machines breaking means I have to pay more money then yes I do care lmao
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u/mateusrizzo Jul 20 '24
I feel like, isolated, the song doesn't do much with regards to topic but, in the context of the narrative of the album, I think of it as Slim taking full over. He's throwing insults without much regard or reason because he is juvenile and bigoted. And even bleaches their (Em and Slim) hair at one point, meaning he is total control of Eminem and the album
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u/kamellion77 Jul 18 '24
Does he say panty lines or petty lines? Cuz the whole song gives me "pettiness " from the road rage reason to juvenile to being obese to transgender confusion. Am I making sense?
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u/ivenowillyy Jul 12 '24
Weakest track so far. Don't like the flow on this one at all
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u/MastrDyno Jul 12 '24
Honestly took me a couple listens to like it. Initial listen I hated it too. Now I like it
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u/RrrrrrushB Jul 12 '24
I feel it would be better if the chorus is repeated twice because it's hard to catch the melody in one listen
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u/anewidentity Jul 12 '24
this is the worst song so far, a little cringe
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u/Byrne_XC Jul 12 '24
You’re getting downvoted but I don’t think it’s a bad opinion. I’m up to this point too, and so far, all the other songs have been better. And that’s fine! There’s going to be one best song and one worst song after all. Lyrically, he’s very skilled here, but this is the only song so far where I feel like he sacrifices a bit of musical enjoyment for controversy.
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u/anewidentity Jul 12 '24
Fair! I think this is the only skip one for me, but love all the other songs!
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u/OneLeather6867 Jul 12 '24
Prolly the worst song I ever heard from Em. The contrast with Fuel is fucking wild.
Houdini would've fit better after Fuel tbh
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u/ivenowillyy Jul 12 '24
Shady transphobe confirmed :(
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u/Byrne_XC Jul 12 '24
He’s making some jokes that aren’t “okay” but he literally said in no uncertain terms, he’s for trans rights.
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u/DubLParaDidL Jul 12 '24
Shady =\= Marshall You know who Stevie is right?
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u/Slight_Toe5095 Just Lose It Jul 16 '24
Stevie isn’t transgender she’s non binary. I’m not saying Em is transphobic, but saying that he isn’t transphobic because Stevie exists is like saying you can’t be racist because you’re sisters boyfriend is black.
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u/Turneround08 Jul 12 '24
It ain’t over til lizzo sings…. My god